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Daemon
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Wed Oct 09 09:43:45
http://www...ooting-in-german-city-of-halle


'Rampage situation' as two killed in shooting in German city of Halle

German media report gunmen tried to enter synagogue and threw grenade into kebab restaurant


Authorities in the eastern German city of Halle say they are dealing with a “rampage situation” after gunmen reportedly targeted a synagogue and a kebab shop in the city, killing two people.

Several shots were fired in the Paulus quarter north of the city centre around midday, police said. The head of the the Jewish community in Halle, Max Privorotzki, told Spiegel magazine that gunmen in military gear had tried to force their way into a synagogue but were repelled by security personnel.




The Jewish community has been celebrating Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year in Judaism. There were 70 to 80 people in the synagogue at the time of the incident, Privorotzki said.

Witnesses also said the attackers had fired at a nearby kebab shop, reportedly killing a male customer inside. Two people were taken to hospital with bullet wounds, police confirmed.

Police later said one suspect had been arrested but urged people to remain vigilant. It did not give any details of the person arrested and said police were in the process of stabilising the situation.

“Our forces have detained one person,” a tweet from the police said. “We remain alert, however. We have deployed forces in and around Halle and are trying to stabilise the situation until we have all the relevant information.”



According to Spiegel, the two attackers had separated after the initial assault, with one man arrested by police on the motorway after hijacking a taxi.

A video, filmed on a mobile phone and broadcast by regional TV station MDR, showed a man in green military gear standing at the back of a parked car, firing a rifle.

A resident interviewed by news agency dpa said a man dressed like a police officer had taken aim and shot a young girl with an automatic rifle outside the synagogue, and then thrown a hand grenade over a wall at the Jewish cemetery. The report could not be confirmed.

Another witness said a man wearing a military outfit and helmet had walked up to the Kiez Döner kebab shop on nearby Ludwig-Wucherer-Strasse and thrown a stun grenade at the building that bounced off the door frame. The man had then fired a shot inside the kebab shop, where five or six people were present, the witness said.

The central train station was closed while the area was under lockdown, the rail company Deutsche Bahn said.
Daemon
Member
Wed Oct 09 09:44:27
Some video:
http://twitter.com/kzelerationist/status/1181905364717096961
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 09 10:08:16
^ From a reply to that tweet:

http://mob...ist/status/1181906658244665345

"Doner kebab"? Jesus your country is so fucked.
Paramount
Member
Wed Oct 09 10:12:02
”Guess the ideology: Nazi or Islam?”

Why do we always asume the worst. Maybe it was a german patriot?
Crownroyal
Member
Wed Oct 09 12:49:58
If this was a Muslim, we'd hear from a lot of usual sources by now. The leader of the free world would surely tweet something. Judging by the silence, this wasnt an Islamist of some kind
Daemon
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:10:43
Nazi who made a video like Tarrant.

http://kiwifarms.net/threads/halle-germany-shooting.62100/

16 seconds from the start of his live steam where he denies the Holocaust and blames feminism, scroll down some messages.

Apparently all of his self built weapons broke down quickly, else he might have killed more people.
Paramount
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:16:05
”Apparently all of his self built weapons broke down quickly, else he might have killed more people.”

Too bad that he couldn’t walk in to a store and buy proper weapons like an AR15 rifle.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:19:42
"Too bad that he couldn’t walk in to a store and buy proper weapons like an AR15 rifle."

Yes, the German government should of course ban individual citizens from owning weapons. Because if there's one segment of German society that can be trusted not to kill mass amounts of people, it's the government.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:21:14
If you were to ask me to name one country on the planet where citizens should not need to bear arms because they have no fear of their government acting against them in a tyrannical manner, it would definitely be Germany.
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:24:57
^that, plus german neonazi incels need to be more efficient in killing civilians.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:30:19
Well dont even get me started on how far the Aryan race has declined in the last 70 years.
hood
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:58:15
You already present it very well on the daily, babe.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 09 14:59:14
I'm not German.
hood
Member
Wed Oct 09 15:00:17
Aryan != German.
Paramount
Member
Thu Oct 10 12:51:08
A neo-Nazi who killed at least two people after attacking a synagogue in Germany broadcast his rampage on the Twitch live-streaming video platform.

Speaking in English, the man called himself "anon" and said he was a Holocaust denier.

“Feminism is the cause of declining birth rates in the West, which acts as a scapegoat for mass immigration, and the root of all these problems is the Jew,” he continued, while filming himself in a car before starting the attack.

The 35-minute livestream was verified by the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR) at King's College London after being shared online.

Police said at least two people had been killed in Halle - outside the synagogue and at a nearby kebab shop - and a separate shooting was reported in a nearby town later on Wednesday.

[...]

He claimed he had initially planned to target a mosque or culture centre, where he believed "antifa" would be present.

http://www...n-holocaust-jews-a9149381.html
jergul
large member
Thu Oct 10 14:24:24
The only people I know of that like to go on about Aryan stuff are either ultra nationalists or Iranians.

Pick your poison Ruggy.
Rugian
Member
Thu Oct 10 14:40:47
You mean ultra-nationalist Norweigians? Those are a thing?

(Aside from a certain knight of course)
jergul
large member
Thu Oct 10 15:07:00
No, I did not mean that. So, you are opting for an Iranian heritage I take it?
Rugian
Member
Thu Oct 10 15:17:58
As much as I admire the Iranian people, I do not shirk from my stance as a patriot. Since that's what constitutes "ultra-nationalist" in contemporary Euro Newspeak, put me down for that.
Dickhead UPer
Member
Thu Oct 10 17:42:25
Rugian is amazingly stupid.
Forwyn
Member
Thu Oct 10 20:17:22
Yeah, out of this thread display of stupidity, Rugian is what really stood out.

/s
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Oct 10 21:09:11
I thought rugian was sharp in this thread, upon reading the whole thing. My summary of rugian posts -

neo nazis who committ horrible atrocities against german jewish citizens, murdering them, should have better access to weapons like AR since -

all germans should have free access to weapons like AR because, as everybody knows very well, Nazi government committed horrible atricities against their jewish citizens, murdering them

but also, aryan nation have declined horribly since the glory days 70 years ago, so .. well, make whatever conclusion you want from this one

Daemon
Member
Fri Oct 11 04:00:54
More about his guns:

http://www...-jammed-repeatedly-video-shows


[...]

Balliet, who lived with his mother in the municipality of Helbra, about 40km from the site of the attack, has been described in German media reports as a loner with few close friends, who spent a lot of time in front of his computer.

A mission statement that the suspect uploaded to Kohlchan – the German message board equivalent of 4chan – where it was later found by researchers at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation at King’s College, London, appears to confirm the use of homemade firearms built according to plans released by a British pro-gun activist from West Yorkshire.

Philip Luty, who believed British gun control laws were “fascist”, devoted his life to publicising blueprints for making firearms from easy to obtain materials, with the goal of allowing private citizens around the world to flout gun restrictions by building weapons at home.

When he died of cancer in 2011, Luty, 46, was facing three terrorism charges for manuals he had published explaining how to build firearms, including a 9mm submachine gun, according to the Yorkshire Evening Post.

The Halle suspect appears to have used one of these homemade Luty submachine guns, as well as other homemade guns and hand grenades, according to the Kohlchan documents.

The documents suggest he used homemade guns intentionally, with the goal of “showing the viability of improvised guns” for people who want to carry out terror attacks but who do not have access to commercially made weapons.

The footage of the shooting suggests the homemade guns malfunctioned, which may have helped prevent more murders. After attacks on both a synagogue and a kebab shop, according to the livestreamed footage, the gunman said: “Sorry, guys, the fucking Luty is shit!”

Both the documents and the livestreamed footage suggest the gunman was a white nationalist, and that he hoped his attack would inspire other white people to kill more Jewish people, as well as other people he perceived as enemies of the white race, including Muslim people, black people, anti-fascists, and communists.

The mission statement also shows that he deliberately chose to carry out his rampage on Yom Kippur but was wary of the synagogue being heavily secured, and considered attacking a mosque or an “antifa culture centre”.

Germany has strict gun laws and rigorous procedures for buying weapons, but it also has very high rates of private gun ownership.

While German authorities have not yet confirmed the types of weapons used in the attack, some arms experts online said it was clear from images of the weapons used in the attack that at least one of the guns was built from a distinctive Luty submachine blueprint.

Luty, described as a “loner” who lived with his parents, was sentenced to four years in prison in 1998 for building a prohibited weapon, a submachine gun, and for illegal possession of ammunition, the Sunday Telegraph reported.

But he continued what he called his “no compromise stance on gun rights issues”, and went on to publish multiple books with an American publisher describing how to make homemade guns.

In 2009, firearms officers arrested Luty and searched his home. He faced new terrorism charges related to “making a record of information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism”, according to a spokesperson for the counter-terrorism policing unit in West Yorkshire. He died before the case went to trial.

[...]
Dickhead UPer
Member
Fri Oct 11 04:19:44
"Yeah, out of this thread display of stupidity, Rugian is what really stood out. "

Yes.
TJ
Member
Fri Oct 11 09:52:07
The poetic genuis Bukowski wrote "Dinosauria We" in 1993. An interesting take on the world ahead of its time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQJengH58ow&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy...
Sam Adams
Member
Fri Oct 11 10:08:00
Another one of sebs muslum migrants went on a stabbing fest at a mall in manchester.
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