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Paramount
Member
Sun Nov 24 15:45:50
Weird that they riot, destroys, beat and lynch people while complaining that they don’t have democracy and freedom. But yet they can go and vote in a democratic election.

Okay sure, there are more things to a democracy than elections. But still. Anyhoo... if the pro-Beijing camp is disappointed now, can they also take to the streets now and beat people and destroy the city like their opponents did?



Hong Kong’s pro-democracy parties sweeping pro-Beijing establishment aside in local elections, early results show

HONG KONG — Early results from Hong Kong district council elections on Sunday showed a massive surge of support for pro-democracy parties on Monday in a significant endorsement of the protest movement and an indictment of the pro-Beijing establishment seen as responsible for months of unrest in the city.

Voters took to the polls in record numbers to cast ballots in the only fully democratic election in the Chinese territory, an early sign they wanted to send a strong message to their government and to the Communist Party in Beijing.

More here http://www...a-8054-289aef6e38a3_story.html
Rugian
Member
Sun Nov 24 16:39:49
The fact that WaPo thinks its garbage content is valuable enough to actually be put behind a paywall is nothing short of astounding.

But anyway...you missed posting a very key part here:

"The councils are relatively toothless bodies, they have few powers, limited budgets and had a reputation for self-serving indolence...The district councils are the only Hong Kong authority selected by full universal suffrage. The city’s leader is chosen by an electoral college and only some seats in the city’s legislature are selected in open ballots."

http://www...al-elections-in-record-numbers
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun Nov 24 16:55:59
“ The fact that WaPo thinks its garbage content is valuable enough to actually be put behind a paywall is nothing short of astounding. ”

Move to Havana, commie. Capitalism apparently astounds you. Name a free product that Post and other newspapers should model on
Habebe
Member
Sun Nov 24 21:06:03
Well what do ppl expect....when allowed to live like civilized Brits and then forced to deal with Burning a ever over reaching tyranny....of course they are pissed.Wouldnt you be?
Habebe
Member
Sun Nov 24 21:07:01
Fucking auto correct....burning is "Beijing's"
Habebe
Member
Sun Nov 24 21:07:03
Fucking auto correct....burning is "Beijing's"
Rugian
Member
Sun Nov 24 21:22:30
"Name a free product that Post should model on"

Gawker.

Habebe
Member Sun Nov 24 21:06:03
Well what do ppl expect....when allowed to live like civilized Brits and then forced to deal with Burning a ever over reaching tyranny....of course they are pissed.Wouldnt you be?

I highly doubt that the Chinese government or their HK lackeys care all that much about the sentiments of the average Hong Kong citizen at all, frankly.
Habebe
Member
Sun Nov 24 21:42:08
Rug, Agreed, thats kind od the point.
Habebe
Member
Sun Nov 24 21:44:28
However, The PRC is concerned over the extent of the protests and bad publicity/ loss of control etc.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Nov 24 22:27:31
they need a massive civil war to thin out their numbers

there was a recent article about how the Chinese are decimating the world's donkey population in their quest to grind up every animal for medicine
jergul
large member
Sun Nov 24 22:32:21
"The city’s leader is chosen by an electoral college"

It must be a democracy then!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Nov 24 22:40:33
or chosen by god...

Rick Perry believes whomever wins the electoral college has been chosen by god
(may only apply in good/christian countries though)
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon Nov 25 08:02:05
"Gawker"

Rugian, wapo business model is already same as Gawker's, another astounding thing for you to learn. Someone bought the company and does with it as he sees fit, be it a paywall or shutdown
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