Utopia Talk / Politics / RIP free speech

Paramount Member	Wed Dec 11 13:11:38 You will no longer be able to make fun of or ridicule Obama or Trump, or anyone for that matter. From now you are no longer allowed to insult someone. YouTube expands anti-harassment policy to include all creators and public figures YouTube today announced an expansion of its anti-harassment policy that will ban video creators from insulting one another on the basis of their race, gender expression, or sexual orientation — even if the person they are insulting is a popular creator, celebrity, politician, or other public figure. The new policy comes several months after YouTube was criticized for declining to remove videos posted by right-wing commentator Steven Crowder in which he repeatedly called Vox video host Carlos Maza a “lispy queer,” among other things. In the face of strong public outrage, YouTube said it would reconsider all of its harassment policies. [...] Under the new policy, YouTube will now take a more holistic view of what a creator is saying on their channel. Even if individual videos don’t necessarily cross the line, if they still contribute to the persecution of another person or creator, they’re eligible for removal. [...] the policy now bans insults on the basis of a protected class, such as race, gender expression, or sexual orientation. So: no more “lispy queer” slurs. The policy applies to all individuals, whether they are creators or not, and even if they are public figures http://www...on-public-figures-maza-crowder
Sam Adams Member	Wed Dec 11 13:14:39 5 years from now: All the diversity hires in some boardroom in youtubeland looking around confused: "how did liveleak take so much of our market share?"
Nekran Member	Wed Dec 11 13:21:53 I know it's hard to be a bit creative and insult someone for something they have actually said or done. But you work in a science-building, Sammy... I'm sure you can work on it there!
Average Ameriacn Member	Wed Dec 11 13:36:32 Fuck Clinton! There, I've said it. Now ban me!
obaminated Member	Wed Dec 11 21:25:16 This won't last long.
Habebe Member	Wed Dec 11 21:50:36 What about history's greatest monster? Jimmy Carter.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 12 04:37:37 Habebe Why? What exactly did Carter do to make him history's greatest monster?
Seb Member	Thu Dec 12 04:50:19 Yeah, Sam, like how Gab has such a huge user base. This is such a noob error. Monetisation of these apps is always adds, and advertiser's don't like racist shit associated with their product. So it likely won't affect profitable page impressions overall: alt right content is unmonetisable and generates net loses through advertiser's demanding not to be associated with it, pulling their ads, etc. From YouTube's perspective, racist content from toxic youtubers are *defective product*, not potentially valuable customers. It's Google's electricity, hosting and compute being squandered on serving unmonetisable content; and creating complaints and damaging their brand. If banning a few causes the loss of a miniscule number of alt right types producing content, that's not going to affect revenue as this stuff largely wasn't generating revenue. But it might reduce operation costs and thus increase overall value per page impression. Which might allow higher add fees. The hardcore will go to Gab to look for political content; but they'll still consume other stuff from youtube. So you don't really damage it from that direction either.
patom Member	Thu Dec 12 09:12:35 So you have to be a little creative. Request the object of derision to 'Go forth and multiply themselves' Or just say "That's nice". My wife used that quite often when she worked in a Nursing Home. The story behind it: Young woman was in the maternity ward in great pain and discomfort. The lady in the next bed looked over and smiled then said her husband was buying her a new car upon delivery of her third baby. The young woman said "That's Nice". The lady in the other bed said, "when I delivered our last child my husband took me to Paris." The you woman said "That's nice". The Lady in the other bed said "When I gave birth to our 1st child, my husband bought me a diamond necklace". The young woman said, "That's nice" The woman in the other bed said "What's your husband getting for you for giving birth" The young woman said, "He already gave it to me. He sent me to finishing school and now instead of saying 'Fuck Off' I say 'That's nice'."
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