Utopia Talk / Politics / official BS by delusional fraud POTUS#21

tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 00:51:38 new big scandal for Fox News, Trump & Trump Jr to all talk about: Trump's scene in Home Alone 2 is cut from TV showings in Canada!!! scenes are cut all the time to allow for commercials & to fit the time slot... & his scene was meaningless so an obvious choice... plus supposedly it's been cut since before Trump ever ran for office, but who cares about getting facts just anger his cult toward Canada w/ nonsense... why not Don Jr cites an article that decides it first happened in late 2015 because that's the first tweet they found where someone noted it... & then decides it therefore must have been done because of Trump's run for office... solid journalism (CBC says they cut it 2014 when they first received the film, & no reason to doubt it... as again, standard procedure... several minutes total cut, the most meaningless scenes are what get cut)
Habebe Member	Fri Dec 27 01:05:16 Agreed, this is nonsense.
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 27 02:32:42 Tw - Just because you lack a sense of humor doesnt mean you should be absolved of your inability to recognize when other people are exercising their own. "Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump I guess Justin T doesn’t much like my making him pay up on NATO or Trade! Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump The movie will never be the same! (just kidding)" He's clearly being jocular.
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 27 02:36:02 From now on I'm going to post this article near the start of every one of these threads, because it so clearly applies here. http://www...only-some-people-see-it-229908
www.yeswecansong.com Member	Fri Dec 27 02:58:01 Junior Trump showed no humor: http://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1210228197180297216 Also the twitter post of demented Trump had a link which you omitted: http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1210351400313638914
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 27 03:33:09 Last I checked, Don Jr isn't president and this thread wasn't titled "official BS by delusional fraud son POTUS #21."
patom Member	Fri Dec 27 08:17:11 Trump humor? Where? When? If so who died?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 11:41:26 stop being such a thread title nazi :p i noted Fox News, Trump & Trump Jr. & they are not all joking... (& that's not all of the non-jokers, you have the fringe 'news' sites that the pieces of shit cite) plus i see Trump has retweeted the article "'Censorship': Fox & Friends Calls Out Canadian Broadcaster For Removing Trump From Home Alone" (twice) so even he is NOT joking... he stirs up controversy whenever he can no matter how stupid, just like one expects from the President... i would not be surprised at all if Trump adds this to his routine at his rallies in non-joke manner
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 12:29:45 Drama Queen Jr's full post on instagram: "Absolutely pathetic. The liberal media like @cbc is where Trump Derangement Syndrome manifests itself fully. Imagine being so pathetic in your quest to attain some BS level of wokeness that you need to cut out a scene that is probably one of the the most famous cameos of the era? Imagine being so “triggered” that you can’t even leave a Christmas movie alone without editing. This is what we are up against in 2020, this is the filter by which most people receive their news. This is why it’s not a fair fight, but this is also why we will win. People see through this crap and are fed up of it. The media should go register as a lobbyist for the Leftists. Their bias is so flagrant they don’t even pretend to hide it anymore. They prove every day that they really are the enemy of the people."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 14:52:38 " So interesting to see Nancy Pelosi demanding fairness from @senatemajldr McConnell when she presided over the most unfair hearing in the history of the United States Congress! " ~ Donnie so many historical records under his regime
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 15:07:41 “It was reported today [Obama] played 250 rounds of golf and he’s going to be in Hawaii, I think did they say for three weeks? Two hundred and fifty rounds, that’s more than a guy who plays in the PGA Tour plays. He played more golf last year than Tiger Woods. We don’t have time for this. We have to work.” ~ Donnie, Dec 2015 today, Trump is making his 251st visit to one of the golf resorts #1 woohoo! take that Obama! and only took 3 years instead of 7!
kargen Member	Fri Dec 27 15:51:27 You do know there is a difference between rounds of golf and visiting a golf resort? How many rounds has President Trump played? That is the comparison you need to make. All presidents take working vacations. It would be naive and stupid to think President Obama wasn't working while in Hawaii and the same thinking President Obama doesn't get work done at his resort.
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 15:56:57 This link my be a better judge on how much Trump plays golf and why. The man owns 16 courses, impressive. Golf courses are full of businessmen who makes and closes deals on a daily basis. http://presidentialgolftracker.com/
kargen Member	Fri Dec 27 15:59:03 Oops typed Obama where I meant Trump at the resort.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 16:06:40 "All presidents take working vacations." this particular mockery is about Trump's hypocrisy & lying... but for some reason you fans don't care one iota about his rampant hypocrisy & lying... it's bizarre that link could use a date on it, also the lower graphic seems way out of date (the 136 one)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 16:08:11 Trump's exact count will never be known as his team does their best to hide what he does (but definitely in the double Obama range)
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 16:18:43 TW: It isn't exactly a pro Trump site. You need to do a little snooping the links. Trump was at one of his courses 170 times in his first 821 days as president.
Habebe Member	Fri Dec 27 16:18:54 Trump did denounce Obama for vacations a lot for someone who holds as much as he does.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 16:24:34 "first 821 days"... he's been in office 1071 days so not that up to date... (i don't care the exact #, no need to further dig... it's definitely WAY more than Obama) to kargen or anyone... what exactly do you envision Trump doing at Mar-a-Lago where you would consider him 'working'?
kargen Member	Fri Dec 27 16:30:12 you are slipping tumbleweed. I had to hear about President Trump's war on toilets from someone else. "to kargen or anyone... what exactly do you envision Trump doing at Mar-a-Lago where you would consider him 'working'?" Same as any other president. Make some phone calls have a few meetings schmooze a bit here and there all the fun presidential stuff that can be done from anywhere thanks to modern technology. And of course tweet which is above and beyond what most presidents did while on a working vacation.
Habebe Member	Fri Dec 27 16:35:15 That said I think most people are content with Trumps pace on getting things done.
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 16:37:52 Mar-a-Lago — with its proximity to the beach, a spa, tennis courts and golf courses — seems an ideal place to host foreign dignitaries, as it can be a more relaxed atmosphere than Washington, D.C. The setting also implies a close, personal relationship between the president and his visitors. Since he owns the resort it makes the emoluments clause questionable. A decision for Congress.
Habebe Member	Fri Dec 27 16:54:41 W Bush often invited people to his fathers property to entertain guests.
kargen Member	Fri Dec 27 17:14:16 Some world leaders commented on how they liked meeting with President Bush at the ranch rather than in Washington.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 17:31:38 "phone calls & schmooze" i'll agree... will be almost exclusively about his grievances & never a word of substance though... i would not consider it work "meetings" possibly... although he won't have done any preparation, will contribute nothing of value, & likely will learn nothing as he can't pay attention or absorb info "And of course tweet which is above and beyond what most presidents did while on a working vacation" yes, we are all so lucky he tweets... and i did note his toilet problems in these threads somewhere, in his efforts to lower water standards... hooray
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 18:06:47 "And of course tweet which is above and beyond what most presidents did while on a working vacation" Twitter only came online in July of 2006, so I suppose that is true, if you define three as most presidents.
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 18:33:07 Just fyi, Obama was the first President to use Twitter.
kargen Member	Fri Dec 27 21:27:05 So my statement is correct and President Obama just dabbled in tweets compared to what our current president does.
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 22:29:24 Obama 108 million followers. Trump 55 million followers. There are 48 million Americans have twitter accounts. Am I to assume that twitter has 115 million not citizens with twitter accounts? Would you consider that foreign interference with U.S. election persuasion? I find those facts, if they are accurate, rather interesting. It certainly proves that twitter heavily leans left.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 22:32:47 and doubtful any president will ever tweet as much again, a real badge of honor and probably no other president will use it to call his enemies childish names, baselessly accuse people of crimes, and spread constant misinformation and division we are real lucky to have him working so hard for the country
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 22:37:35 I'm sure plenty of bots and foreigners on twitter, and unfit moron Trump could actually be swayed by the bots posing as Americans, as he reads the comments and uses the praise to argue he's doing what the people,want (he called in his social media guy to tell people in a meeting how many likes he got on a tweet or something) an absurdly unfit president
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 22:39:05 The 2020 election will solve all your problems, maybe.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 22:42:09 if enough people come to their senses
Habebe Member	Fri Dec 27 23:01:11 Tumbleweed, Who would you like to see win 2020? What policies are your most important?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 23:16:17 anyone but Trump i don't care what policies they have ...Klobuchar or Buttigieg (actually smart) is my preference --------- speaking of unfit tweeting... our dear leader has retweeted a 'person' who spews non-stop Trump propaganda & has a stock photo as their avatar and who is revealing the name of alleged whistleblower (his shark bot retweet still my favorite)
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 23:17:47 You mean if enough people move toward the leap of left senses in the party. I've watched all the DNC debates and I'm not impressed with any of the candidates, not even the two time Presidential loser Biden. Presently the DNC has three separate ideologies expressed within the candidates. Two will be plucked like weeds before the election though. We'll see soon enough, so hold onto your senses. That might be a pun. I wouldn't want you to totally lose them if Trump gets reelected.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 23:31:25 regain their senses that a mentally-ill unfit petty child fraud who is incapable of stating an accurate fact, has no intellectual curiosity, & only spreads made-up bullshit, lies & division is not remotely qualified or acceptable as a president hopefully you will notice by November
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Dec 27 23:33:20 someone could have the exact same policies as Trump (whatever those are, he doesn't know enough to have policies) & i'd vote for them easily over Trump there would be no chance in hell their character & behavior would be as absurdly awful
Habebe Member	Fri Dec 27 23:37:25 "anyone but Trump i don't care what policies they have" And there is my main issue with the US Democratic party and the reason I think Trump will win again as this seems to be the core message they have. " we're gonna beat Trump" we have no ideas or concerns other than petty partisanship and hatred of Trump for his Trumpiness. Tj, As ive said before all politics aside Sanders is the only one who is likeable ( as a person). Or as Dennis Miller put it. As rough as Trumps outside voice can be he believes thats also his outside voice. He goes in to say referring to hilarity Clinton that he doesn't think her inside voice gas ever had a cup of coffee with her outside voice. For that I'll also give some props to Sanders. I think he genuinely believes in what he says. Now his policies....
TJ Member	Fri Dec 27 23:50:08 Habebe: It's not enough for him to believe in what he says. He needs to get enough voters to believe in what he does and I don't see that happening. It seems the Democratic party is worried about the upcoming election. Anything to get rid of Trump isn't working.
TJ Member	Sat Dec 28 00:16:00 Another thing I find odd is all the aged individuals in the running in the Democratic primary. It is difficult to define the party presently and that doesn't appear to be promising for winning the 2020 election. It's even possible to have a brokered convention. I imagine they will get their act together as the year progresses.
Habebe Member	Sat Dec 28 00:24:43 Sanders wont be elected in his life, ever. But I respect him and respectfully disagree with him.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 00:32:55 "we have no ideas or concerns" i'm not here to represent the Democrat party, i'm a registered independent who would be happy to see both parties disappear... i attack R's as so many are garbage, lying (or deliberately misleading) to protect Trump i'm sure all the D candidates have plenty of policies if you check their websites
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 00:44:05 " The President of the United States has, today alone, retweeted 2 QAnon fan accounts, a Pizzagate account, an account that compared his following to a cult, and an account that described Obama as “Satan’s Muslim Scum.” And this insanity isn’t even a blip on the news radar. " ~ Aaron Rupar (vox reporter) i didn't verify, but have no reason to doubt it... feel free to try to disprove if you want
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 01:10:43 ...not that he should have to research every person he retweets, but at least 3 accounts he retweeted tonight are obvious bots / fake people (& that's out of the 3 i briefly looked at) ...not that he would know what a bot was or even understand the concept... so perhaps an adult intermediary should be mandatory for him... a twitter nanny
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 11:40:42 well, a whole bunch of his retweets from last night appear to have been deleted by some adult ...how embarrassing to the nation (& kargen in particular)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 11:45:42 all of them had colorful emoji icons in their names so that seems to help draw his attention...
kargen Member	Sat Dec 28 15:50:42 It isn't the least bit embarrassing to me because I don't read tweets and don't give them any weight. They mean nothing.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 17:59:46 James Comey responded to you: " I often hear Trump supporters say they don’t pay attention to his tweets. But you must. And ask yourselves whether they reflect the values you want in a president and in America. What he tweets matters. Is that who you are? Is that who you want your kids to be? Don’t look away. " http://twitter.com/Comey/status/1211069854717030400 you find him acceptable so therefore his constant clear unfit behavior should embarrass you
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 18:06:28 and Trump tweeted about Comey: "A Dirty Cop at the highest level. Scum!" in reference to an article titled "Comey's cabal going down" on galesburg.com... a quality article i'm sure ...and he's still retweeting bots, thanking a "Juliet" who appears to mostly retweet fellow bots... & has ~22k followers & is following ~22k people... a nice huge circle of bots i presume
kargen Member	Sat Dec 28 18:26:24 I disagree with Comey. His tweets don't matter. Comey's tweets also do not matter nor does his opinion count any more than mine.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 18:57:06 well they do matter, it's not really an opinion issue also the leader of the country is incapable of sounding mature, even semi-professional & of providing accurate info a national embarrassment & quite pathetic
kargen Member	Sat Dec 28 19:14:15 It is obviously opinion. You have an opinion and I have an opinion. To you they matter and upset you to the point of causing you mental anguish. To me they do not matter at all and I am happy ignoring them. If everybody just treated them as random meaningless thoughts that is exactly what they would be.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 22:07:19 example #1: they have affected the stock market, hence proven not an opinion, no more examples needed... just a fact and obviously his tweets about other leaders/nations has effect... but i've already proven the point w/ example #1 and obviously tweeting we were leaving Syria out of the blue had effect... but i've already proven the point w/ example #1
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Dec 28 22:25:18 Trump putting out a hit piece on San Francisco... totally normal: http://twi...ump/status/1211024497278631939 his concerns for cities just happen to occur when he's angry w/ the congressperson from that city & that angry guy attacking camera @ 0:30 was actually mad at climate change protesters... Trump should love him
kargen Member	Sun Dec 29 01:50:21 THe only reason they could affect the stock market is if someone as crazy as you are gives weight to them. Again if we all treat them as meaningless opinions that is exactly what they are. You and others treat them like holy scripture and let them shape your entire being. That isn't healthy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Dec 29 02:24:21 i am not talking theoretically, his tweets HAVE affected the stock market also... its bone-head obvious that statements by the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES have effect also, the President baselessly saying people are committing crimes isn't him having an opinion, just like so many of his other lies & bullshit... facts do exist, stating them wrongly is not an opinion i realize you've lowered the bar through the used toilet for this moron fraud child, but it's you being delusional & ostrichy (also we've already had this 'argument' where i am right and you are wrong)
Habebe Member	Sun Dec 29 02:33:43 The POTUS has few powers in reality. However I would argue his most powerful tool is ability to sway opinion "cheerlead" in a sense. That said his opinion does hold more weight than most.including tweets.
jergul large member	Sun Dec 29 03:43:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Donald_Trump What you said might be true of FLOTUS.
jergul large member	Sun Dec 29 03:44:53 http://en....on_dismissals_and_resignations
Habebe Member	Sun Dec 29 04:18:59 Jergul, http://fre...s-the-president-really-matter/ Now Trump being more of a salesman than a politician Imo has done a great job at rallying enough support and specific support to be one of the most powerful potus we have had. Rallying his base and getting elected Republicans to fall in line. That said its a great listen. If your not already aa fan of freakonomics I highly recommend it btw. Its my favorite podcast.
jergul large member	Sun Dec 29 05:07:18 Oh, if that is what you meant. Trump has the power to manipulate markets, not control them. Can you imagine how rich you would be if you had pre-knowlege of when Trump was going to weaken or strengthen the stock market? Its been up and down a few hundred points a few hundred times on the power of tweets. He has tremendous power in his control of postings in the federal government, along with the 100ds of executive decrees of course. You think it a victory that the GOP has been gutted of moderate republicans? Trump is only as strong as the economy politically. A recession is long overdue.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Dec 29 12:01:06 with great power comes great responsibility with Trump comes zero responsibility almost any adult as president would try to put out accurate info (perhaps w/ spin if a policy issue), if they put out proven false info, they'd correct it Trump makes no effort to put out accurate info, he regularly makes things up (like the Visa Lottery example where he doesn't have a clue what it is but is happy to explain it 100% falsely)... even if Trump knew an accurate figure, he would change it to be better for him... and he NEVER has corrected any of his near constant falsehoods... -at best- he stops repeating it, but even that is not common for Trump, which is the sole reason the 'bottomless pinocchio' was invented it is ridiculous he quite possibly spews more misinformation than anyone in the world (certainly true if you go by size of audience hearing it)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Dec 29 12:20:32 " So sad to see that New York City and State are falling apart. All they want to do is investigate to make me hate them even more than I should. Governor Cuomo has lost control, and lost his mind. Very bad for the homeless and all! " ~ obvious guess what his concern is: 'investigate me' or 'the homeless'... "I hate Alabama" ~Obama... oh wait, no that doesn't happen w/ adult presidents
Habebe Member	Sun Dec 29 14:31:21 Jergul, Gutted of moderates? Trump is not an ultra conservative. He has done and supported many things that are not traditionally Republican or conservative. However he has done enough to appease Conservatives that they still support him.
jergul large member	Sun Dec 29 17:59:53 I was not commenting on what Trump is. I am commenting on what has happened to the GOP.
Habebe Member	Sun Dec 29 18:07:31 If anything id say that the Democrats have moved further from the center than the republicans in recent years. Look at the candidates each of which I would argue are further left than day Obama who was at his time considered more left of center than recent US politics.
Habebe Member	Sun Dec 29 18:12:23 Currently the Republican party has put aside qualms on spending. Have supported pro labor policies which doesnt soumd like the Reps turning to the right further.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 30 00:54:01 Habebe You are giving examples of gutted moderate conservaties. Being a fiscal conservative is not a bad thing. The GOP has turned pro crony capitalist verging on pro cleptocrat.
Habebe Member	Mon Dec 30 01:07:33 So having policies that are more centerest is " gutting moderates"? I tend to be more liberal on social issues and more conservative on economics but even in favor of the government protecting some industries especially given Chinese tactics. This isn't Japan we are competing with. Now I worry about our spending, I think the wall is a terrible idea etc. But i dont see moderates as dissapeaering in the R party...i would say they are trading off some points to accomplish others they deem more important....thats a good thing.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 30 02:59:19 No, turning the GOP into a cult of personality has gutted moderates.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 30 03:05:16 It is not really the party's fault. Is there any congressional district it can win without the 1/5th or so of voters that are hard core MAGA? The party is slowly becoming marginalized by demographics. It no longer has the margins to be moderate. So the cultists call the shots.
Habebe Member	Mon Dec 30 04:00:06 What makes them not moderates? Because they are lock step behimd Trump? Who himself is a rather liberal conservative? *****Your beating around the bush for an answer as if you heard a talking point and ran with it but cant back it up.******
jergul large member	Mon Dec 30 11:36:48 Habebe There is no point in trying to place Trump on a conventional political axis. They are lock-step because it is political suicide not to be. Not because Trump's base is particularly large. The base is just large and vindictive enough for democrats to win every time if it does not get its way. Its interesting to watch how a cult of personality emerges. Though I expect this one to be more Trotskyesque than Stalinist. It will only hold for as long as the economy does. And a recession is long overdue.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Dec 30 13:42:10 good twitter thread demonstrating why every American should demand Mulvaney & Duffey testify... http://twitter.com/jgeltzer/status/1211724675396624385 ...too bad R's are traitors to the country, loyal only to an obvious fraud child
TJ Member	Mon Dec 30 14:29:46 Habebe: You should research Norway's religious history. It might help you understand jergul's perspective, mostly humanistic? I think it fair to consider it kin to Marxism. As of 1 January 2019, the population of Norway was estimated to be 5,446,780 people. New York State is the fourth largest state in the United States of America in 2019 based on latest projections, with a population of 19.49 million. What works in Montana doesn't work in California. We all process thought from environmental experiences. It is what makes the world spin. Cultist is normally assigned to radical beliefs, mostly smaller ones. That is not the case with Trump's constituents, but what they hay, anyone can accuse from personal perspective. jergul: "Its interesting to watch how a cult of personality emerges." Not so much. Though I expect this one to be more Trotskyesque than Stalinist." chuckle Assassination is the act of killing a prominent person for either political, religious, or monetary reasons. Pour, pour Trotsky. Khrushchev took over after Stalin killed himself from alcoholism. Pour, pour Stalin, pun intended. Marx died from bronchitis and pleurisy in London on 14 March 1883 (age 64), dying a stateless person. He was buried in an area reserved for agnostics and atheists. Should they be labeled cults or different systems of philosophical thought? No system is pure and simple and labels are superficial, as well as, fleeting in time, short or long term.
Habebe Member	Mon Dec 30 14:36:10 Jergul, come on man. That's still a cop out and you know it.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 30 18:35:25 TJ It was actually a left-handed compliment to Trump's legacy. Stalin died at the height of his power and was fully discredited. Trotsky died in exile and is remembered much more kindly. Both had cults surrounding their personalities. Marx, not so much. Few economic historians have cults. Though Marx does rest in a communist plot. Since we are doing the pun thing :). Habebe Its the only way to make sense of things in a paragraph or two. It does stand to reason somewhat. Though more a diet cult. I would not expect to see him murdering relatives anytime soon.
TJ Member	Mon Dec 30 18:48:24 My pun was pour, pour, another drink. Not poor, poor, which I should have applied to Trotsky. Maybe I was too eager to get the pun out. lol I don't believe your sense of the republican party is accurate. There are many different reasons why people vote as they do. Trump is closer to the Capitalistic system than the left socialist movement. The U.S. is in a governmental culture war, sort of speaking. The democrats have made leaps to the left being social democracy, a Marxist kin. Politics are doing the tango.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 30 19:19:02 Trostsky invaded Poland as many times as Hitler. No need to pity him. You are mixing and mashing your terminology. Marxism is predicative. It simply denotes that capitalism unchecked has inherent contradictions that, if left unchecked, will lead to its demise. Everyone agrees with this. So there are tons of checks and balances. The rest is just degrees of moderations. No need to declare a cultural war.
TJ Member	Mon Dec 30 19:26:43 The pity as you suggest was sarcasm. No need for this exchange. :) Yes degrees of moderation, check and balances that get abused.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Dec 31 14:33:07 " “This guy (Peter Strzok) was organizing a coup to undo the 2016 election.” Rachel Campos-Duffy @FoxNews And he wasn’t the only one in that Administration. The greatest Witch Hunt in American history! " ~ asshole thank you Rachel Campos-Duffy & Fox News for the continued made-up smears... has any of them actually tried to explain how this coup was supposed to work? i'll guess no... (other than mentions of 25th amendment & not telling their audience that it has even more requirements than impeachment) fuck Trump, fuck Fox News, fuck Rachel Campos-Duffy Happy New Year
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Dec 31 14:56:02 fact-checker made his picks of Trump's top lie of each month (this is not something that should occur) http://www...of-2019-daniel-dale/index.html Trump's continual lying about IG report & FBI should definitely also be in there
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 00:38:40 a classic Trump answer to a question: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENLEo0eXYAAJB-h?format=jpg on all sides, no indication of him knowing anything about the issue, but tons of words
kargen Member	Wed Jan 01 02:00:07 If you weren't an idiot you would understand. He is saying we need to look at the problem but we shouldn't kill the industry.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 11:50:11 if you weren't an idiot, you would understand he's deliberately playing all sides of the issue no other adult would answer the question as he did... they would know specifics & note how you said everything he said in one sentence
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 11:58:14 " A lot of very good people were taken down by a small group of Dirty (Filthy) Cops, politicians, government officials, and an investigation that was illegally started & that SPIED on my campaign. The Witch Hunt is sputtering badly, but still going on (Ukraine Hoax!). If this.... ....had happened to a Presidential candidate, or President, who was a Democrat, everybody involved would long ago be in jail for treason (and more), and it would be considered the CRIME OF THE CENTURY, far bigger and more sinister than Watergate! " so... no... & completely ridiculous, absurd, unfit i guess now he's going to suggest only D's control who gets arrested to explain why no one is getting charged for all these supposed crimes he keeps alleging iirc, Barr was asked about Trump flinging around the treason word awhile back & he just shrugged, no push back at all what the hell has happened to R's
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 03 23:25:14 lou dobbs dragging his tongue along trump's sack: http://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1213258179078950913 perhaps Fox hosts are competing to be his 'pink lady' once the free press squashed
kargen Member	Sat Jan 04 00:00:31 So now you want to impeach him because he is wordy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 04 00:53:28 not everything i post is meant to be an article of impeachment most of it is in regards to him being unfit for office (which sadly isn't impeachable) i'm sure he knows nothing about the vaping issue, people complained when some kids died & he saw it on TV (+ Melania has a son) so hero Trump to the rescue: 'we're gonna do something!'... but then industry came & told him 'hey, jobs' so he said 'oh ok, we'll make it weak' (basically same trajectory he took w/ guns) so now he's telling us he's protecting families, protecting kids, & protecting industry... hooray! everyone's protected! he's super-humanly brilliant! (& obviously he sides mostly w/ industry as he couldn't care less about people or Melanie's son) speaking of him knowing nothing about anything: at his church rally for religious idiots he brought the up visa lottery again... and again, a 100% wrong description... [making him grossly weirdly unfit for office] ...plus he claimed Buttigieg is faking his religion... those balls Dobbs is licking are huge ...and hoped the media would lie less as they were in a church...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jan 04 12:35:00 A former Fox News reporter has accused President Trump of inviting her to his office for a kiss before he was president. Courtney Friel, who now works at KTLA-TV in Los Angeles, made the claim in her forthcoming book, an excerpt of which was obtained by The New York Daily News. Friel alleged that Trump told her she was “the hottest one at Fox News” and called her at her office after she expressed interest in judging his Miss USA beauty pageant, the Daily News reported Thursday. “Though he said I couldn’t be a judge since I worked at a different network, he did ask me about my career goals and complimented my work at FNC,” she reportedly wrote in her book. “Then, out of nowhere, he said: ‘You should come up to my office sometime, so we can kiss.’” The Daily News reported that Friel said she was “shocked” and later replied, "I believe we’re both married," before ending the call. http://the...d-her-to-his-office-for-a-kiss Lou Dobbs really wants that call ...& likely he was planning to quid pro quo the judge job if she rode the mushroom (a Celebrity Apprentice spot was dangled for Stormy Daniels)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 05 12:06:28 here's Senator Thom Tillis putting together a birthday card for the 36 year-old son of the President, if you wish to sign your name & leave a nice message ...or call Thom a pathetic bootlicker http://twitter.com/ThomTillis/status/1213595744592154625 & presumably Thom then hits you up for campaign donations so many garbage people...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 05 12:08:22 Rex Tillerson says it was tough to go from working at Exxon to working "for a man who is pretty undisciplined, doesn’t like to read, doesn’t read briefing reports, doesn’t like to get into the details of a lot of things, but rather just says, ‘This is what I believe.’" hmm... every single person says the same thing about Trump's 'work' habits... but surely they are all just lying...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 06 12:05:07 Bolton says he will testify at Senate trial if subpoenaed http://www.boltonpac.com/2020/01/statement-of-john-r-bolton/ so will 4+ Republicans do their duty & what's right for the country or no...
Rugian Member	Mon Jan 06 12:14:22 If any witnesses are called, they should be Joe and Hunter Biden, plus Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella (aka the traitor). Fuck what the Democrats want here. Pelosi doesnt control the Senate any more than McConnell controls the House.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 06 14:23:05 sure, call those four then every follow-up question can be 'how did anything the R's just asked you provide any information of relevance about this trial?' the whistleblower & Schiff literally add nothing, but i'd prefer Biden DID testify, they add nothing to the trial, but it's a millstone around his neck for the election... put it to rest or leave the race
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 06 15:30:12 "He didn't say he's targeting cultural sites" ~ Kellyanne Conway (White House snake) "President Trump didn't say he'd go after cultural sites" ~ Pom-peo (automaton) ----------- "...we have targeted 52 Iranian sites... some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself" ~ Trump "... we’re not allowed to touch their cultural sites? It doesn’t work that way" ~ Trump (the snake was aware of both Trump comments when making her claim, Pom-peo possibly just the top tweet) a total shit administration... instead of removing the unfit moron, just pretend he doesn't say or mean what he says or means
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 07 14:10:58 the unfit lying piece of shit speaking at the moment: claimed that draft letter sent to Iraq by mistake about us leaving might have been a -HOAX-... (obviously was not, & the PRESIDENT should know it) and claiming the -HOAX- witch hunt started w/ the 'fake' dossier (it did not, & dossier not fake) and restating the dirty cops claim which has zero supporting evidence... and still saying Europe not providing aid to Ukraine... sickening (to non-crazy people)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 08 16:46:57 Mike Lee (R) pissed off by briefing given about assassination (but, he still praises the idiot king before giving his increasingly angry complaints... R's are so fucked up...) http://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1215027584167268352
kargen Member	Wed Jan 08 21:09:07 Let's go ahead and kick this over to #22.
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