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Average Ameriacn
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Sat Jan 04 00:26:51
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Trump tells evangelical rally he will put prayer in schools


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MIAMI/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said his Democratic opponents would tear down crosses and pledged to bring prayer to public schools at a re-election rally to shore up evangelical support.



Trump spoke on the outskirts of Miami at the King Jesus International Ministry, a “prosperity gospel” church that teaches that the faithful will be rewarded with health and wealth on earth.

“We are defending religion itself, it’s under siege,” Trump said. “A society without religion cannot prosper.”

More than 80% of white evangelicals voted for Trump in the 2016 election. But a crack in evangelical support opened up last month when the magazine Christianity Today wrote a blistering editorial on Trump’s “grossly immoral character.”

Attendees, some of them wearing Trump’s signature red campaign hats, nearly filled the room, which the church says holds 7,000. Some raised their hands in a sign of praise and swayed while music played loudly over the speakers before the president entered the room.

Pastors gathered around Trump on the stage for an opening prayer, while much of the audience remained standing with their hands aloft.

In his speech, Trump mocked Democratic challenger Pete Buttigieg, the Indiana mayor, for having what he said was an unpronounceable last name, and told attendees Democrats were waging war against religion.

“These angry radicals want to impose absolute conformity by censuring speech, tearing down crosses and symbols of faith and banning religious believers from public life.”

He got a big reaction from the crowd when he promised to bring religion into U.S. schools. A clause in the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from promoting one religion over the other, which means public schools don’t promote prayer or religious symbols.

“Very soon I’ll be taking action to safeguard students and teachers’ First Amendment rights to pray in our schools,” Trump said. “They want to take that right along with many other ones.”

According to a 2019 survey here by the Pew Research Center, 43% of U.S. adults, or some 110 million people, identify with Protestantism; 59% of those, or 64 million are born-again or evangelical Christians.

Christian support for Trump remained relatively constant from his inauguration until March of 2019, Pew Research shows. Some Christians believe that support has frayed since.

Friday’s rally “is Trump’s desperate response to the realization that he is losing his primary voting bloc — faith voters,” said Doug Pagitt, the executive director of Vote Common Good, a progressive Christian group, on Friday.
hood
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Sat Jan 04 00:31:50
"Very soon I’ll be taking action to safeguard students and teachers’ First Amendment rights to pray in our schools"

There is no such right. Fuck off.
Paramount
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Sat Jan 04 11:54:07
But isn’t it important that people recognize Jesus as the Son of God and that kids learn how to make a proper prayer?
Rugian
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Sat Jan 04 12:07:30
“A society without religion cannot prosper.”

There is no such thing as an irreligious society, it just so happens that politics is replacing Christianity as the religion of faith in certain places.
Rugian
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Sat Jan 04 12:10:37
That being said, the fact that you can teach six year olds about how they can switch genders but not how to pray to our Lord and Savior is proof positive that First Amendment case law vis-a-vis public schooling is completely broken.
Paramount
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Sat Jan 04 12:16:21
“A society without religion cannot prosper.” – Trump

Hmm... look at how religion has made the ME to prosper.
Paramount
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Sat Jan 04 12:17:58
” “Very soon I’ll be taking action to safeguard students and teachers’ First Amendment rights to pray in our schools,” Trump said. “They want to take that right along with many other ones.””


Who are ”they” that Trump is speaking of?
Rugian
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Sat Jan 04 12:20:58
Jewish politicians and their Quisling collaborators, mostly.
Paramount
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Sat Jan 04 12:31:02
Can students pray inside their public school buildings? Can teachers say “Merry Christmas” to their students? Can religious music be played in public schools?

Yes, yes and yes.

There has been a great deal of misunderstanding about what is allowed and not allowed when it comes to religious expression in public schools ever since the U.S. Supreme Court banned school-sponsored prayer in public schools in a landmark 1962 decision, saying that it violated the First Amendment. In fact, in 1995, then-President Bill Clinton issued a memo titled “Religious Expression in Public Schools,” that said in part:

It appears that some school officials, teachers and parents have assumed that religious expression of any type is either inappropriate, or forbidden altogether, in public schools.

As our courts have reaffirmed, however, nothing in the First Amendment converts our public schools into religion-free zones, or requires all religious expression to be left behind at the schoolhouse door. While the government may not use schools to coerce the consciences of our students, or to convey official endorsement of religion, the government’s schools also may not discriminate against private religious expression during the school day.

Schools are forbidden from initiating or sponsoring religious activities, including prayer, but religious groups are permitted to meet on school grounds after school, and students can pray to whatever or whomever they want at any time of day, as long as they do it privately and don’t try to force others to do the same.

http://www...s-whats-allowed-and-forbidden/


So it seems that Mr Trump has misunderstood how things works in school? Or maybe Trump wants to force all kids to pray to Jesus?
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