Utopia Talk / Politics / The Big Bad Wolf meets

patom Member	Thu Jan 30 06:39:58 The Great Wall of Trump. http://nym...QzI1Nw4RgkT9Eghi2TRX85b9dzRb5M
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jan 30 06:44:19 "Nobody knew walls could be so complicated." -Trump 2020
Rugian Member	Thu Jan 30 06:49:10 REBUILD THE WALL!
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 30 11:22:44 ” Two weeks ago, the White House grabbed another $7.2 billion in Pentagon funding for the wall, to bring the total taxpayer cost to $18.4 billion. ” Insane.
kargen Member	Thu Jan 30 11:39:23 Not much of a story. Gusts of wind blew over a few panels that had not fully set yet.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 30 12:04:03 $18 billion for much less wall (fencing)? remember when he said $8 billion for a 35-40ft actual wall coast to coast... and never stopped saying Mexico would pay for it... plus illegally diverting military funds after congress specifically denied the funding... perhaps the next Dem president will divert military funds to do some anti-gun stuff 'to protect Americans' there's some story here
patom Member	Thu Jan 30 12:07:48 I wonder how many tunnels have been already up and operational under the Great Wall of Trump.
patom Member	Thu Jan 30 12:11:55 kargen, I wonder who got the bid to build these sections. Do the tax payers get to have the repair work done for nothing or will it require a whole new bid to rebuild it?
kargen Member	Thu Jan 30 12:51:29 Doesn't really matter who got the bid for this story. It takes time for concrete to set. Shit happens. If the story were about the wall collapsing because the concrete wasn't up to code then who got the bid would matter. Most government construction contracts the company that does the construction also does the repairs for a set number of years. The contract would say what types of repairs the company would have to absorb the cost of and what the government would pay. I'm guessing weather being the cause the government picks up repair cost.
Rugian Member	Thu Jan 30 12:56:53 Kargen I dont know if "wind" can really be counted as force majure, but I admit I could be off here.
Average Ameriacn Member	Thu Jan 30 12:59:50 Does Mexico have weather machines?
kargen Member	Thu Jan 30 13:23:17 I'm not sure about that either with the wind. I am fairly certain Mexico doesn't have a weather machine though. If the concrete were set then it would be expected that the wall could withstand 37 MPH gusts. Still wet though not sure how that would play.
patom Member	Thu Jan 30 15:44:25 I guess it makes sense to have incompetent contractors working for an incompetent President, building an incompetently designed wall. But hell the money keeps flowing. I just hope the money trail isn't being followed by incompetent investigators.
kargen Member	Thu Jan 30 17:10:38 How does incompetence come into play with cement setting? That shit doesn't dry in just a few minutes and is not at full strength until it does dry.
patom Member	Fri Jan 31 04:31:00 The incompetence comes from not bracing the wall sufficiently to allow for winds until the concrete is set. It's in the desert where winds have been known to blow.
kargen Member	Fri Jan 31 15:43:40 "The windier part of the year lasts for 3.7 months, from March 13 to July 3, with average wind speeds of more than 7.7 miles per hour. The windiest day of the year is May 6, with an average hourly wind speed of 9.0 miles per hour. The calmer time of year lasts for 8.3 months, from July 3 to March 13. The calmest day of the year is January 11, with an average hourly wind speed of 6.3 miles per hour." Big difference between 7 MPH winds and 37 MPH winds. We can safely say this was an unexpected event.
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