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EuropeanPussy
Member Wed Feb 05 23:31:45
Little UK should not try us again!

http://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1224787156855599104

So it looks like the 4-day 1st war of Brexit is officially over:

Brexiters got all excited on Brexit day as Guernsey banned French fishermen. Everything was fine till Guernsey fisherman went to process their fish in France.

France refused, the fish rotted & now the war is over.

Habebe
Member Thu Feb 06 00:04:20
Especially after they pissed off the US with Huawei....theu are not the Empire they once were.China doesnt care about them.pissing off the US was a dumb move.

The Children
Member Thu Feb 06 03:01:15
poor little yankee, u mad.

Seb
Member Thu Feb 06 10:06:17
Apparently this was more bureaucratic cockup. Guernsey isn't part of the UK, all when the London convention vanished, so did the legal right to dish in Guernsey waters. Which was known and understood. Guernsey just hasn't built a permit system yet.

EuropeanPussy
Member Thu Feb 06 10:37:31
Even 22 new ships won't stop us!

http://www...d-off-post-brexit-fishing-wars

UK to strengthen sea patrols to ward off post-Brexit fishing wars

Fears of repeat of 1970s ‘cod wars’ prompt Britain to double Royal Navy patrol ships

Britain has been quietly increasing its maritime defences in an attempt to prevent a repeat of the “cod wars” of the 1970s once the UK fully completes its departure from the EU at the end of 2020.

With a post-Brexit deal on fishing to be negotiated, maritime authorities are taking on two new inspection ships, according to recent parliamentary answers – and will have more than twice the number of Royal Navy patrol ships by the end of the year.

The Department for Environment, Food and Rural affairs has said that it wants “a relationship with the EU based on friendly cooperation between sovereign equals”, but has ramped up preparations in case talks with Brussels break down.

Britain has so far refused to offer Brussels any promises on access to UK waters, where more than 700,000 tonnes of fish and shellfish are caught by EU trawlers each year, prompting the Irish prime minister, Leo Varadkar, to threaten to block a trade agreement on financial services last month in retaliation.

In a no-deal scenario, the UK would be responsible for patrolling and enforcing the exclusion of foreign vessels in its economic waters, a vast area of 80,000 nautical square miles into the Atlantic and the North sea.

The Marine Management Organisation, responsible for English waters, can obtain a further 22 ships in an emergency, and is also considering whether to take on two extra surveillance aircraft to help cover the maritime area.

It is able to draw on three armed Royal Navy patrol craft supplied by the Fishery Protection Squadron – or “cod squad” – each armed with cannon and machine guns, and a crew of about 45.

But by the end of the year, the number of patrol craft will increase to seven as a new generation of vessels are added. The older ones are being retained, a decision first made by Gavin Williamson when he was defence secretary in 2018.

Defence sources said that armed conflict involving fishing vessels was very rare. During the ”cod wars” of the first half of the 1970s between British and Icelandic trawlers, fishing nets were cut and boats on both sides were regularly rammed – and there were a handful of incidents when ammunition was fired.

But while fishing became a totemic issue during the referendum campaign, with many Brexiters arguing that allowing EU boats unrestricted access to British waters decimated the local industry.

As a result of concessions given by British governments since the 1970s, EU member states take a much greater proportion of the fish in UK waters than the national fleet, which now represents a small part of the UK economy, contributing less than £1bn and employing 11,000 people.

Britain also wants EU boats to obtain a licence to fish around the country from the beginning of next year and for boats from the 27 member states to abide by UK environmental regulations, according to a fisheries bill being introduced by the government.

Habebe
Member Thu Feb 06 11:28:02
Sounds like the next history channel show....dent dun dun "Cod wars"

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EuropeanPussy Member	Wed Feb 05 23:31:45 Little UK should not try us again! http://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1224787156855599104 So it looks like the 4-day 1st war of Brexit is officially over: Brexiters got all excited on Brexit day as Guernsey banned French fishermen. Everything was fine till Guernsey fisherman went to process their fish in France. France refused, the fish rotted & now the war is over.
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 06 00:04:20 Especially after they pissed off the US with Huawei....theu are not the Empire they once were.China doesnt care about them.pissing off the US was a dumb move.
The Children Member	Thu Feb 06 03:01:15 poor little yankee, u mad.
Seb Member	Thu Feb 06 10:06:17 Apparently this was more bureaucratic cockup. Guernsey isn't part of the UK, all when the London convention vanished, so did the legal right to dish in Guernsey waters. Which was known and understood. Guernsey just hasn't built a permit system yet.
EuropeanPussy Member	Thu Feb 06 10:37:31 Even 22 new ships won't stop us! http://www...d-off-post-brexit-fishing-wars UK to strengthen sea patrols to ward off post-Brexit fishing wars Fears of repeat of 1970s ‘cod wars’ prompt Britain to double Royal Navy patrol ships Britain has been quietly increasing its maritime defences in an attempt to prevent a repeat of the “cod wars” of the 1970s once the UK fully completes its departure from the EU at the end of 2020. With a post-Brexit deal on fishing to be negotiated, maritime authorities are taking on two new inspection ships, according to recent parliamentary answers – and will have more than twice the number of Royal Navy patrol ships by the end of the year. The Department for Environment, Food and Rural affairs has said that it wants “a relationship with the EU based on friendly cooperation between sovereign equals”, but has ramped up preparations in case talks with Brussels break down. Britain has so far refused to offer Brussels any promises on access to UK waters, where more than 700,000 tonnes of fish and shellfish are caught by EU trawlers each year, prompting the Irish prime minister, Leo Varadkar, to threaten to block a trade agreement on financial services last month in retaliation. In a no-deal scenario, the UK would be responsible for patrolling and enforcing the exclusion of foreign vessels in its economic waters, a vast area of 80,000 nautical square miles into the Atlantic and the North sea. The Marine Management Organisation, responsible for English waters, can obtain a further 22 ships in an emergency, and is also considering whether to take on two extra surveillance aircraft to help cover the maritime area. It is able to draw on three armed Royal Navy patrol craft supplied by the Fishery Protection Squadron – or “cod squad” – each armed with cannon and machine guns, and a crew of about 45. But by the end of the year, the number of patrol craft will increase to seven as a new generation of vessels are added. The older ones are being retained, a decision first made by Gavin Williamson when he was defence secretary in 2018. Defence sources said that armed conflict involving fishing vessels was very rare. During the ”cod wars” of the first half of the 1970s between British and Icelandic trawlers, fishing nets were cut and boats on both sides were regularly rammed – and there were a handful of incidents when ammunition was fired. But while fishing became a totemic issue during the referendum campaign, with many Brexiters arguing that allowing EU boats unrestricted access to British waters decimated the local industry. As a result of concessions given by British governments since the 1970s, EU member states take a much greater proportion of the fish in UK waters than the national fleet, which now represents a small part of the UK economy, contributing less than £1bn and employing 11,000 people. Britain also wants EU boats to obtain a licence to fish around the country from the beginning of next year and for boats from the 27 member states to abide by UK environmental regulations, according to a fisheries bill being introduced by the government.
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 06 11:28:02 Sounds like the next history channel show....dent dun dun "Cod wars"
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