Utopia Talk / Politics / The Coronavirus

Paramount Member	Thu Feb 06 16:26:09 Coronavirus: Whistleblower Dr Li Wenliang confirmed dead of the disease at 34, after hours of chaotic messaging from hospital Li was one of the first doctors who tried to share information about the coronavirus only to be reprimanded by Wuhan police Wuhan Central Hospital initially denied reports he was dead, saying he was in “critical condition”, before finally confirming he had died Li Wenliang – one of the first doctors who tried to alert the public about the coronavirus outbreak, only to be reprimanded by local police – has died, Wuhan Central Hospital confirmed early Friday morning, hours after it initially denied reports of his death. “In the fight against the pneumonia epidemic of the new coronavirus infection, our hospital's ophthalmologist, Li Wenliang, was unfortunately infected. He passed away after all the efforts we’ve taken to resuscitate him. We deeply mourn his passing,” the hospital said on its official Weibo account. Li, 34, died at 2.58am on Friday, the hospital added. http://www...o-alerted-authorities-outbreak The virus killed a young healthy man. Should we be worried now?
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Thu Feb 06 16:31:22 As of today the death toll is at 566 deaths. http://en....320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak
Paramount Member	Thu Feb 06 16:35:06 Btw, How do we know that it really was the virus that killed whistleblower Dr. Li and not the Wuhan police who executed him?
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 06 18:30:57 Agrees with Paramount.
The Children Member	Fri Feb 07 01:21:54 how do we know manning wanted a sex change and wasnt forced upon by us government?
Habebe Member	Fri Feb 07 02:45:50 Because most of our minds are not damaged by years of malnutrition.
The Children Member	Fri Feb 07 03:05:11 ur brain is born low IQ. no amount of nutrition is gonna repair ur brain.
patom Member	Fri Feb 07 07:45:21 a country that YouTubed itself into a 21st century measles outbreak does not get to talk shit about any one else's health practices.
Paramount Member	Sat Feb 08 04:29:25 Coronavirus outbreak: 86 die in one day as infections in mainland China top 34,000 http://edi...7dfec565c5dc7d3a7570c2138b39da China threatens harsh punishments for people who disrupt virus control ... including the death penalty From CNN's Lily Lee in Beijing The Chinese government has issued new regulations to severely punish people who disrupt the epidemic control work. Those who violate the rules will be subject to speedy arrests and sentences, and even the death penalty. In a joint statement released Saturday, China’s National Health Commission, Supreme Court, Supreme Procuratorate and Ministry of Public Security listed seven types of medical-related crimes. Approval for arrest, prosecutions and trials will be fast-tracked as the epidemic prevention and control is at a "critical stage." The statement ends by saying the death penalty will not be ruled out in severe cases. The seven medical-related crimes affected by these new measures are: Beatings, intentional injuries, and intentional killing of medical personnel. Illegally restricting medical personnel's personal freedom using violence, threats, or blatantly insulting, intimidating, or slandering medical personnel. Tearing protective gears off of and spitting on medical personnel, which may cause medical personnel to be infected with the new coronavirus. Refusing to accept checks, quarantine, and treatment measures of medical and health institutions using violence, threats, or other methods, or obstructing medical and health institutions’ lawful disposal of corpses of infectious disease patients according to law. Forcibly or intentionally destroying or occupying properties of medical and health institutions, or causing disturbances in the medical and health institutions, illegally placing dead bodies, setting up the mourning hall without permission, causing disorder and disrupting the normal conduct of epidemic prevention and control. Illegally carrying guns, ammunition, tightly regulated instruments or explosive, radioactive, poisonous and corrosive materials while entering medical and health institutions. Other situations that violate the safety of medical personnel and disrupt medical order.
Paramount Member	Mon Feb 24 02:37:33 Anyone got Corona yet? The virus is spreading fast. Italy is locked down now. If the virus is in Italy, it will soon be in Germany, France, Britain and in Scandinavia. Some idiot in the US disobeyed Trump also so now they have at least 14 infected people in USA.
Habebe Member	Mon Feb 24 03:59:51 Paramount, When was the last time you heard from TC? Considering he has been malnourished for years i wouldnt put it past him to eat bats and snakes and shit.
Habebe Member	Mon Feb 24 04:02:57 Has anyone played Plague? Its fun for 5 minutes. You start a disease and get poimts for spreading it and killing the worlds population, t lets you increase/choose symptoms, how it spreads and resistance etc. All while.the worlds nations fight back with quarantines, travel bans, cure research etc.
jergul large member	Mon Feb 24 04:27:04 I told my daughter to start the plague outbreak on Greenland ftw.
Dukhat Member	Mon Feb 24 06:54:11 "Some idiot in the US disobeyed Trump also so now they have at least 14 infected people in USA." It was a guy from the state department overruling the people from the CDC. And the state department has been singlehandedly dismantled of key staff and mostly led by Trump lackeys. So in other words, it's another case of Trump blaming the idiots he hired.
Dukhat Member	Mon Feb 24 07:08:59 So in other words, it's probably* another case of Trump blaming the idiots he hired.
Paramount Member	Mon Feb 24 10:44:31 Ultimately it comes down to Trump’s incompetence. Just like Hitler (was it Hitler or Stalin?) he fires all the people with competence and are then left with people who lacks competence, and that’s when amd how the Virus can come to the US. Lol
The Children Member	Mon Feb 24 12:24:58 "Anyone got Corona yet? The virus is spreading fast. Italy is locked down now. If the virus is in Italy, it will soon be in Germany, France, Britain and in Scandinavia. Some idiot in the US disobeyed Trump also so now they have at least 14 infected people in USA. " >> lol u kiddin me? it was already all over da world weeks ago. in china its contained though. but the rest of the cucks are gonna experience real karma now.
sam adams Member	Mon Feb 24 17:30:47 Why u eat bat from lab china?
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Feb 24 18:23:40 Because they fetishize rare organics under a pseudo-scientific belief in their healing and virility benefits? ;p .. Worry not! China has things "contained" to 80,000 confirmed infected with 2,629 deaths and 25,000 recovered ( http://gis...a7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 ).
The Children Member	Tue Feb 25 00:09:53 why u eat roadkill raccoon infected with lyme?
sam adams Member	Tue Feb 25 15:39:47 Coronavirus just nuked the stock markets. China should be forced to pay us all reparations.
Rugian Member	Tue Feb 25 15:44:16 I feel really smart for putting a bunch of money into domestic ETFs last week. Kill me now
Habebe Member	Tue Feb 25 16:16:27 I love it. China said it was racist to blame it on eating bats. Then they banned the earing of bats.
jergul large member	Tue Feb 25 16:55:38 A 20-25% correction is to be expected. Appreciation has been considerable. I dumped our stocks late last year (my timing was imperfect, but it was a quality of life decision. I was overthinking it too much). but it is only chump change unless you have to realize losses. The true loss is not saving at all. You may live, Ruggy :).
Hrothgar Member	Tue Feb 25 16:56:09 The difference between the current outbreak size and potential size is enormous. Talking 10's of thousands/hundreds of thousands vs Millions/Billions. How likely is this pneumonia like infection to shift gears into the "millions of infected" vs what we are seeing now? Any thoughts?
jergul large member	Tue Feb 25 17:03:47 Something 5 to 10 times more deadly than a normal influenza on a global scale like most normal influenzas? In raw numbers, it will match the Spanish Influenza, but the global population is a lot larger and it will target the elderly primarily, as opposed to young adults in the case of the 1918 Pandemic. The stuff of recessions, not depressions.
jergul large member	Tue Feb 25 17:08:51 Epedimic control is mostly about slowing the spread. One infected person spread it to 3-5 during the spanish influenza. There are signs that this one could be lowered to something between 1 and 2 (less than 1 means the outbreak can be contained). How that translates to number of infected before vaccination emerges is unclear. I honestly have no idea if we will see numbers in the millions or not.
Forwyn Member	Tue Feb 25 19:03:36 "it will target the elderly primarily, as opposed to young adults in the case of the 1918 Pandemic." Finally, we rid ourselves of the Boomer population
TJ Member	Tue Feb 25 19:14:57
hood Member	Tue Feb 25 20:05:47 The Europe and Asian continents will have a tough time truly containing the virus, mostly because it was reaching there before people really took it seriously (re: China). Asia most definitely, but Europe by way of land connection. That's always been the biggest liability of Europe: no ocean protection. The Americas will likely contain the spread, as we have that ocean barrier that Europe and Asia don't have. That is, unless the Fed keep making retarded decisions. With everyone else enacting quarantines, the number of infected traveling here is likely small. However, if any given American country gets seeded, you could see north/South America also get "ravaged." Just don't pull a Japan. I'm expecting a large uptick of cases on the islands shortly, considering how they handled the cruise ship fiasco.
Dukhat Member	Tue Feb 25 22:01:40 Coronavirus turning out pretty good for the world. 1) It's just another type of cold. Low mortality but long incubation so it spreads like wildfire. But still just another type of cold we'll have a vaccine for in 2 years and have to treat like the flu or the common cold. 2) Massive slowdown in world economy hitting even the US causing a recession. The only thing holding Trump's approval rating up is this economy. 3) Oil prices way down. Futures even lower. Frackers in tears and industry will probably have a dramatic collapse. They were already in trouble since so many wells had exaggerated the amount of extractable reserves. Bad things: 1) New ipad will be delayed. Was planning on upgrading. Oh well.
Habebe Member	Tue Feb 25 23:30:48 Dukhat will literally support a viral pandemic if it increases his chances of Trump not winning re-election.
sam adams Member	Tue Feb 25 23:53:10 "it will target the elderly primarily, as opposed to young adults in the case of the 1918 Pandemic." Thats a pretty big difference
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Feb 26 01:41:13 Dickhat Corona has so far a mortality rate of 2-3% which is substantially higher than 0.0005% (cdc numbers for flu season). If the cold had a mortality rate of 2-3%, most of the people in this forums would have been dead.
Dukhat Member	Wed Feb 26 02:18:37 That's the high-end. So many people go asymptomatic or don't report because they only get a little bit sick. The numbers may be far lower.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Feb 26 02:28:06 May be, could also be much worse. The unknown when dealing with pandemics is the reason to be careful. The numbers for the spanish flu for instance at the onset was 0.1% or something of that order, the real mortality rate is a construction after the fact. It got really bad because when it infected 100s of millions.
Dukhat Member	Wed Feb 26 02:44:26 It was bad because it killed healthy people. Coranovirus kills the old. Natural selection at work. It's what the conservatives love. Only those old people are now their base. WHOOPS.
Daemon Member	Wed Feb 26 03:36:37 http://www...nition-anymore/article/3051388 If you’ve been walking around your city recently believing that the face mask you wear to protect you from the coronavirus is also fooling facial recognition cameras, then we have bad news for you: Facial recognition is evolving. New forms of facial recognition can now recognize not just people wearing masks over their mouths, but also people in scarves and even with fake beards. And the technology is already rolling out in China because of one unexpected event: The coronavirus outbreak. Over the last several weeks, the deadly Covid-19 disease has forced millions of people across China to don surgical masks and N95 respirators. This has led China’s AI champion SenseTime to adapt its facial recognition product to identify people wearing these masks, according to an announcement from the company last week. [...]
Daemon Member	Wed Feb 26 03:44:36 South Korea: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51609840 [...] Authorities have identified the fringe Christian group Shincheonji Church as being at the heart of this outbreak. At their services in the south-eastern city of Daegu, members likely infected one another and then fanned out around the country, apparently undetected. South Korean health officials believe that a 61-year-old member of the sect who last week tested positive for the virus was among the first to be infected and is now at the centre of their investigation. The female patient initially refused to be transferred to a hospital to be tested and is known to have attended several church gatherings before testing positive. Any large gathering in a confined space she would have attended - like a church service - would have likely led to further infections, health officials say. [...] http://www.koreabiomed.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=7492 [...] Lee Man-hee, the founder of the Shincheonji Church, expressed his views for the first time on the current outbreak. In a “special letter” to believers, Lee said, “The ongoing disease accident is the devil’s act to prevent rapid growth of the Shincheonji Church.” The church founder went on to say, “Let’s fortify our faith further. We can win.” He then asked believers to avoid gathering for the first time and conduct propagation and education through telecommunication. “You should actively cooperate with the instruction of the government. This is our job.” In a related development, Gyeonggi Province Governor Lee Jae-myung ordered Shincheonji Church to close all the churches in the province temporarily. Provincial officials estimate there are 32,000 believers and 17 related facilities in the province. Nationwide, the church members may total 230,000, according to the province’s interim estimation. [...]
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Feb 26 05:08:26 More lulz: "Coronavirus: Iran's deputy health minister tests positive as outbreak worsens" http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51628484 "Iran's deputy health minister and an MP have both tested positive for the new coronavirus, as it struggles to contain an outbreak that has killed 15." "[The deputy minister] was seen wiping his face repeatedly" at a press conference.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Feb 26 05:09:08 2,763 dead 81,005 infected 30,257 recovered http://i.imgur.com/umbbsNw.png
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Feb 26 05:42:35 Dickhat Yes, the second wave of the Spanish flu was deadly to young healthy people, the first one was not.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 26 06:00:06 Weesa gonna die!!
hood Member	Wed Feb 26 07:20:48 Gotta love that dumbfuck dukhat is right here questioning infectious disease experts who determined the mortality rate with actual evidence and knowledge simply because he wants to download the virus. Vestiges of that inner republitard emerging, eh?
hood Member	Wed Feb 26 07:21:12 Download = downplay
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 08:32:38 Ok, now that we have had our people look into this. Vaccine within 18 months. Number of infected 10-100 000 000 (defined as persons who have created antibodies). Mortality 0.5% (5 times more deadly than a common influenza). spread rate 1-2 (each infected person infects 1-2 people). This virus is a bit sneaky in sense that many will only have a slight cold. Today's chance of all the above being true? In 3500 universes of 10 000.
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 08:52:47 The US is ranked 6th currently in number of cases after it leaped up from 35 to 53 cases over the course of a day (24th to 25th of Febuary). The chances of avoiding a significant US outbreak is fast approaching 0.
Dukhat Member	Wed Feb 26 09:05:23 Hood getting having PMS over Paramount's uncited numbers lol. The estimate is still just that an estimate until a country with a trustworthy government and medical system can provide numbers. 2-3% is based off Chinese numbers. We'll see what the South Koreans come up with. It's great to believe in science. Next time, actually use some you fucking jackweed.
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 09:09:18 There are going to be a lot more deaths attributable to the outbreak. People too scared to pick up heart medicine, life-saving surgeries delayed. Stuff like that.
hood Member	Wed Feb 26 09:32:18 Gotta love dickshit pulling feces out of his ass and claiming it worthy of anything more than a quick cackle AND THEN asking for citation. I'll find citation after you provide some, retard.
hood Member	Wed Feb 26 09:36:16 I should also point out that in his infinite stupidity, dukhat is asking me, hood, to provide citation for the word of another, Nim, who is providing the official mortality rate as reported by just about everyone providing news about the virus, as sourced from infectious disease experts. But dukhat says that the numbers are probably off, so we clearly need to trust him. He even invoked "SCIENCE!" like it's some spooky, catch-all trump card. Well, unfortunately, just using the word science doesn't mean your argument bears any resemblance to actual logical deduction.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Feb 26 09:45:01 Classic dickhat.
Habebe Member	Wed Feb 26 10:52:16 Was it Rob who wanted to cure all diseases with water and carrots? Or VoF?
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Feb 26 10:58:13 Pretty sure that was Fucking Retard, yes.
hood Member	Wed Feb 26 11:12:23 Yes, and he used scurvy as his "prime example" of a disease that would be cured by carrots and water.
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 11:13:42 Of all the cures that won't work, I recommend cognac.
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 26 11:23:01 Alcohol kills germs Is what I say to myself when drinking whiskey while sick
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 12:13:47 Alcohol can also kill viruses. If you spill your drink into your computer or laptop while it is running.
patom Member	Wed Feb 26 13:20:34 I never spill my whiskey ;)
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 13:33:11 http://www...covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=6126c0a4_2 China - 412 new Rest of world - 459 new First time that has happened. 0 new cases reported to the WHO from the USA.
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 26 14:00:07 Oh shit I just read Dukhats posts. Lol! Tfw you prefer a global pandemic over four more years of Trump
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 14:03:47 Ping - the coronavirus reached Norway.
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Feb 26 14:10:31 fifth case in ontario announced today. Some broad flew from iran last weekend. I am kind of surprised that we don't have more cases, with toronto two huge chinatowns and large iranian diaspora. Have a nagging feeling that shit is gonna hit the fan anytime now
Rugian Member	Wed Feb 26 14:11:42 "Some broad flew from iran last weekend." Fucking terrorists.
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Feb 26 14:13:52 the other four case were chinese who flew from there. All were declared free of virus
sam adams Member	Wed Feb 26 15:26:50 Has any able bodied adult in a developed country died from this yet?
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 15:32:31 Sammy Absolutely.
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 15:46:44 Ping, pong - the fist case in Norway is in my home town. Cool *cough* *cough*
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 15:49:45 Here is the scary bit. She is symptomless, but got tested as a precautionary thing after travelling abroad. She has the anti-bodies, so has either fought off the infection, or is carrying it without symptom. We were one additional cold away from her spreading it like shit off a fan.
jergul large member	Wed Feb 26 15:50:37 This is a small town, so I should have her full case history presently.
The Children Member	Wed Feb 26 16:10:45 "The Children Member Mon Feb 24 12:24:58 >> lol u kiddin me? it was already all over da world weeks ago. in china its contained though. but the rest of the cucks are gonna experience real karma now. "jergul large member Wed Feb 26 13:33:11 china - 412 new Rest of world - 459 new First time that has happened." _________ WHAT DID I FUCKIN TELL ALL U CUCKOLDS. a lotta u rednecks gonna face some karma.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Feb 26 17:46:26 who thought it would be a good idea for Trump to speak about the Coronavirus? presumably useful people will speak after
Paramount Member	Thu Feb 27 00:52:06 ” in china its contained though. but the rest of the cucks are gonna experience real karma now. ” But if you are in Britain ur in da danger zone too. When people around you starts coughing, or if someone nearby is only breathing out some air from his lungs... what are you gonna do? It’s too late for you too then. You may get Corona too by only breathing the air when you are around people.
The Children Member	Thu Feb 27 00:56:14 yes, thats why im a little scared as well. but facts dunt lie. this virus is not a flu virus. if we get it, we prolly sick for a 5 days but then we good again.
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 27 01:06:12 The bast majority of deaths seem to be the elderly for now.
The Children Member	Thu Feb 27 01:10:39 it also targets weak fools like u cuckolds.
Dukhat Member	Thu Feb 27 02:01:34 Hood still shitting bricks. Stupid fuck. No informed scientist has given a definitive mortality rate because there is no reliable information. They give the high-end number to keep people honest and alert but we don't know for sure which is what every fucking legitimate scientist has been saying you fucking imbecile. Until you know for sure the full number infected, when they were infected, and how many died; you can only provide an ESTIMATE. But keep acting like that 2-3% number is somehow definitive you stupid fuck. It's not like there's many if any college-educated people on this board actually intelligent to tell the difference.
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 27 02:28:58 Someone mentions cuckolds and bam Dukhat pops up.Hahaha Probably why he is so angry all the time.
jergul large member	Thu Feb 27 02:38:23 At least many muslim countries are partially prepared with half their population already wearing adhoc hazmat suits. How does not havin health insurance factor in treatment for corona?
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 27 03:01:08 Probably not well. I wonder if this will effect UHC support.
patom Member	Thu Feb 27 04:38:51 Praise Jesus we are all saved now! The chosen one of God has chosen Mike Pence to save the country. http://www...avirus-stock-market/index.html
Habebe Member	Thu Feb 27 04:48:33 Yeah I dont get it. You'll never catch me bending the knee to a jew.
Dukhat Member	Thu Feb 27 05:25:50 Community spread in California confirmed. No known travel links to Wuhei or any of the other hotspots. And fucking Pence is in charge of our response. People thought that South Korean cult worshipper was bad. Wait until they meet the average white evangelical Christian.
hood Member	Thu Feb 27 07:10:28 Your lack of citation is very apparent, retard. Not at all surprising, but extremely obvious.
Dukhat Member	Thu Feb 27 07:16:13 You're the one getting butt-hurt over fake news dumbass. Please tell me a single reliable source that definitively says that the mortality rate is 2-3% dumbass. They've all said pretty explicitly that it is an estimate or a best guess. But thanks for joining the cuckservatives in their stupid game of making ad hominems when they can't come up with real arguments. This place truly rots a person's logical faculties.
hood Member	Thu Feb 27 07:44:45 Dear whatever holy figure believe in these days, do you even understand the basics of an argument? Of course the mortality rate is a guess; it will always be a guess until a disease has run its course. But it being a guess doesn't mean it's random turds pulled out of the backside of the most retarded asian to grace UP (and I don't mean the children, which is pretty sad). What you're effectively saying is that decades of research into disease spreading and mortality modeling is complete fuckery and your entirely uneducated guess is what should pass for the official estimate. Even if we exclude your inability to understand that actual scientific understanding has gone into the 2-3% mortality estimate, the fact that you cannot grasp the basic concept of YOU MADE THE CLAIM SO BACK IT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE is pretty astounding. It's literally the alt-right troll playbook: make a retarded comment with absolutely no relation to reality, then harass anyone who calls you on your stupidity with a demand for THEM to support the assertion that your original claim had no basis in reality. But the tldr version, since you seem to be wildly illiterate: Your fecal scrying is not science and there's no logical support for it. Cite a fucking source or stroke out.
hood Member	Thu Feb 27 07:45:45 "dear whatever holy figure __people__ believe in these days." Damn phone tricked me.
Rugian Member	Thu Feb 27 08:19:37 "dear whatever holy figure __people__ believe in these days." Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, apparently. Politics being the new religion and all that.
jergul large member	Thu Feb 27 08:50:34 The Norwegian Centre for Disease Control think the mortality rate will be around in the 0.5% for Norway. This is still incredibly dramatic as it is high enough for spin-off effects to kill a lot of people too (corona will hog resources and limt access to medical services). For every person that dies, the will be 5 in intensive care of a long period of time.
jergul large member	Thu Feb 27 08:51:09 (Folkehelseinstituttet).
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Thu Feb 27 09:10:20 http://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1232675707924439046
Dukhat Member	Thu Feb 27 10:33:46 Mortality rate in South Korea (which has been the most aggressive country in testing and thus capturing all the possibly infected people) has a similar rate of mortality so far of around .7% so far. Again, not a perfect measurement since that number is conflated with people that are recently sick and may still die and other factors. An egregious example of the opposite case is Iran which is showing a mortality rate closer to 10% than .5%. Almost certainly this means they are failing to test a lot of infected people and are undercounting cases. So Hood can type a ton of bullshit if he wants. But numbers don't lie. They just allow us to narrow down the spectrum of options which includes a very good chance that the virus does not have a "2-3%" mortality rate. Want to PMS some more Hood? Or maybe save all our time and stop being a little pissant.
sam adams Member	Thu Feb 27 10:41:31 "The Norwegian Centre for Disease Control think the mortality rate will be around in the 0.5% for Norway." Seems like a reasonable guess. Not very scary. That number will drop to a tiny fraction for healthy adults.
hood Member	Thu Feb 27 11:06:05 Gotta love the flabby vagina projecting his leakage problems onto others.
sam adams Member	Thu Feb 27 11:54:05 Airlines and international trade are getting torched.
patom Member	Thu Feb 27 12:02:05 I would think that 10700 deaths in Norway would be considered fairly serious.
swordtail Anarchist Prime	Thu Feb 27 13:22:50 http://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1233054271429652483
jergul large member	Thu Feb 27 14:44:52 Patom Excess deaths could easily push 1%. Or increase all deaths by 25k per year to 75k in 2019. That would be with a 40% infection rate and 0.5% mortality.
jergul large member	Thu Feb 27 15:07:56 http://www...-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=47fdaf7_4 400 and change new cases in China 700 and change new cases outside of China Well, fuck. Is this going to turn into an event showcasing the advantages of an authoritarian state control?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Feb 27 15:29:57 China reporting can't be trusted... same for US now that everyone needs Pence's approval before talking to the public
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