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Sam Adams
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Sat Feb 08 19:18:45 2020
These ski lift lines are getting out of fucking control. Way too many people with money and time these days.

I think we should elect bernie so the upper middle class gets smaller.
Rugian
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Sat Feb 08 19:24:22 2020
"I think we should elect bernie so the upper middle class gets smaller."

You joke, but if GND-style policies start to get enacted, most people will probably begin finding it prohibitively expense to fly out to the slopes.

Nothing infuriates communists more than the sight of American prosperity.
hood
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Sat Feb 08 19:40:06 2020
Yeah, because people earning 6 figures are going to suddenly be both too strapped for cash to book a flight and somehow be magically targeted by measures to rein in the people making 8 figures.
Rugian
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Sat Feb 08 19:57:59 2020
Hood,

Thanks for bringing up the issue of income taxation. That will indeed be another factor contributing to the long-term harm that the far leftist Democrats will cause to this country.

But in this case, I was referring to the idea that governments should attempt to stifle passenger demand for aviation flights in order to reduce emissions.

http://ean...n-demand-to-cut-carbon-output/
Dukhat
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Sat Feb 08 23:17:34 2020
LoL, Rugian so stupid. Literally his brain will believe any echo chamber news story as long as it feeds his "White men are being victimized" narrative that powers his life.

Go read book and get a hobby you fat fuck loser.
jergul
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Sun Feb 09 05:50:21 2020
Sammy
Mass tourism is not grounded on the spending habits of the upper middle class.
Sam Adams
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Sun Feb 09 06:54:17 2020
One benefit of soviet jerguls:

The nations 1 ski resort has short lines.

Lulz.
jergul
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Sun Feb 09 07:02:43 2020
Off by two orders of magnitude there.

114 ski resorts
Habebe
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Sun Feb 09 07:47:59 2020
I havnt been skiing since i was boy. My aunt Hannelore and uncle Pete used to have a ski lodge on Killington up in Vermont.
jergul
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Sun Feb 09 08:03:53 2020
I have not been skiing since Thursday :).
Sam Adams
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Sun Feb 09 19:38:22 2020
"114 ski resorts "

Yes, im sure. In soviet jergul-land, steep road with occasionally function old truck count as ski area.
jergul
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Sun Feb 09 19:53:04 2020
You really picked the wrong country to belittle its skiing capacity.

Rofl USA 1 nuclear rocket it can launch off steep road by pulling it with a truck.

We would both be at about the same order of magnitude wrong.
Sam Adams
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Sun Feb 09 20:23:47 2020
Yes jergul. Lots of people go to russia for skiing. Its right up there with Aspen and Zermatt and Whistler and Chamonix.

Lol clunk.
jergul
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Sun Feb 09 21:01:45 2020
What does Russia have to do with anything? Thats like me thinking you are North Korean.

You are being more wrong than usual today.
Sam Adams
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Mon Feb 10 03:13:14 2020
Did you somehow think i ment western european nato-member norway when i said soviet jergul-land, and not the russia you always idolize?

Lol.
jergul
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Mon Feb 10 10:41:16 2020
Soviet jergul-land is by definition Norway. Swedes like to call it the last Soviet state.

http://sca...rway-is-the-last-soviet-state/

If you meant Russia, then say Russia.

In fact, apply that principle systematically. Your way of writing is extremely muddy and inprecise.
hood
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Mon Feb 10 15:27:00 2020
The irony of one saying another's writing is imprecise without being able to properly spell the key word...
jergul
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Mon Feb 10 15:30:57 2020
Is that like the irony of a jewish person being a grammar nazi?

Never mind spelling, it is often very hard to know what Sammy is trying to say.
hood
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Mon Feb 10 15:39:27 2020
Sam is indeed an idiot. But a misspelling of imprecise is pretty ironic.
jergul
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Mon Feb 10 15:44:28 2020
Yah, I could actually not figure out how to spell it. I tried both variants and both looked wrong.
Sam Adams
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Mon Feb 10 15:46:27 2020
"Soviet jergul-land is by definition Norway."

No. Norway is too functional, free, and owns too many western bloc weapons for you.

You get the bed you made, russia.
jergul
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Mon Feb 10 15:48:40 2020
No thank you.
Nimatzo
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Mon Feb 10 17:21:44 2020
Jergul
A wise old fisherman once gave me the advice to get a spell checker. Years later, I was shocked to out he didn't have one himself.
Nimatzo
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Mon Feb 10 17:29:34 2020
Also, I will never understand this obsession you people have with snow. I think it is great you make something positive out of the time of year everything DIES, but mentally sane people from a wide range of socio-economical background prefer coconut palms, 25 degree breezes, beaches and flipflops. You can't really relax knowing that the air (THE FUCKING AIR) around you is trying to kill you.
TJ
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Mon Feb 10 17:49:28 2020
Wisdom needs time to think.
Paramount
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Mon Feb 10 19:02:13 2020
” mentally sane people from a wide range of socio-economical background prefer coconut palms, 25 degree breezes, beaches and flipflops”


That’s why the Finns invented the Sauna and Vodka. The most easy and cheap way to get some warmth here in the North during winter.
jergul
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Mon Feb 10 19:02:49 2020
Nimi
There is always a lag between my updating firefox and my reinstalling a spellchecker.

Snow if fine for parts of the year. Bad summers suck. We almost always go away to somewhere nice during the summers.
Sam Adams
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Mon Feb 10 20:06:27 2020
"You can't really relax knowing that the air (THE FUCKING AIR) around you is trying to kill you."

Lol. While there are definitely times where proper ski mountains are indeed trying to kill you, there are also plenty of times where said mountain is benign and comfortable. -2C with no winds? No problem. 5C no winds and south facing spring sun? Ski in shorts and tshirts! That sun gets downright hot when its bouncing off all that snow. Bring lots of sunscreen and at least 2 sets of sunglasses in case you lose 1.

-15C 50kt winds blowing snow and avalanches?Ya... be somewhere else.

You should try it though. Its wicked.
jergul
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Mon Feb 10 20:16:20 2020
Wife literally got in the door after visiting someone. 5km there. 5km back. On skis. On an island with 50k people.

Its a good, practical way to stay in shape.
Sam Adams
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Mon Feb 10 20:35:27 2020
And no bugs!

Plus ski towns are full of only people that made good life choices. Great bar scenes.
Nimatzo
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Wed Feb 12 14:37:20 2020
I have been to the Swedish mountains several times and it is enjoyable the way walking on any barren and hostile landscape is. But the novelty factor wears off. I am sure it happens walking on Mars as well, freaking awesome to walk on Mars, but by day 3 you realize you are JUST walking a barren wastland.
Nimatzo
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Wed Feb 12 15:02:33 2020
>>there are also plenty of times where said mountain is benign and comfortable. -2C with no winds? No problem. 5C no winds and south facing spring sun?<<

In a tank top, shorts and flip flops? It is a matter of time before your penis falls off.

I think it is reasonable we make something constructive out of the inevitable winter, change from biking to skiing, build snow persons and prepare for Christmas, but is it something we should long for? And then(!) perhaps you realize, maybe a little global warming isn't all that bad, like 3-4 degrees *shrugs*?

For millions of years the great apes understood that winter and cold weather was no good. It made food scarce and force all the women to wear tons of clothing. Now a bunch of pothead snowboarders have made this into a lifestyle. Tsk tsk tsk.

Uhm have 4 harvests a year and naked women running around or wear 4 layers of sheepskin and ice fishing. TOUGH CHOICE!
jergul
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Wed Feb 12 16:03:11 2020
It does not actually feel barren. Frøken Smillas fornemelse for snø comes into effect. Lots of variation if you know what you are looking at.

Its not really a tough choice these days with advances like housing and international trade.

Women can happily be naked inside as we munch on imported afrodasiacs someone else has harvested 4 times a year :).
jergul
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Wed Feb 12 16:04:17 2020
Also, the sun wrinkles people fast. Tautness lasts longer in the North.
Nekran
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Wed Feb 12 16:53:15 2020
"Plus ski towns are full of only people that made good life choices."

Ahahahahahahaha.
Sam Adams
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Wed Feb 12 18:52:58 2020
"For millions of years the great apes understood that winter and cold weather was no good. It made food scarce and force all the women to wear tons of clothing. Now a bunch of pothead snowboarders have made this into a lifestyle. Tsk tsk tsk.

Uhm have 4 harvests a year and naked women running around or wear 4 layers of sheepskin and ice fishing. TOUGH CHOICE! "

Lol, fair point.
Nimatzo
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Wed Feb 12 21:05:55 2020
Jergul
Fjällen looks amazing on computer screens as well :P

You can also drown in water, we don't need the cold like we need the water and sunlight. It is the genes I am sure. If I go on holiday to a tropical place during winter and come back, I am more depressed than when I left. I come back knowing Mangos can grow in your garden, who knew that? You feel like your entire life has been a lie.
jergul
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Wed Feb 12 21:30:07 2020
Any climate people like in that way, parasites like better. I raise your frosty breath with 4 tape worms and 3 tze-tze flies.
Habebe
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Wed Feb 12 21:42:54 2020
I moved from a place that has 4 vibrant seasons to a sub tropical climate. At least imo i prefer the 4 seasons.
Sam Adams
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Wed Feb 12 23:01:14 2020
Skiers dont get swamp ass.
jergul
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Wed Feb 12 23:11:19 2020
Evolved early humans demonstrated that by wanting refrigeration.
Nimatzo
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Thu Feb 13 16:47:49 2020
Jergul
Well, yes the biodiversity of thise places includes disguating things. It is imo the big drawback, all the bugs and creepy crawlies. If you stay near the coasts/Islands and civilized areas you are good though.
jergul
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Thu Feb 13 17:12:24 2020
Refrigeration is also cool. If you want to take great apes deciding they were tired of eating half-rotten stuff.
jergul
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Thu Feb 13 17:14:54 2020
Though ultimately, I think the move to colder climates and the megafauna there was driven by population expansion.

River deltas are best anywhere, but once they are taken and food on demand no longer accessible, then colder food simply keeps better.
Nimatzo
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Fri Feb 14 16:56:25 2020
Ultimately neither the cold nor the parasites are a real issue given technology. Technology can not replace the sun on my face though, the green and lush vegetation, churping of the birds and mangos in my yard. There is nothing sustainable in transporting mangos from the other side of the earth Jergul.

Once you have taken a bath at midnight in the ocean at the equator and the water and air are so warm you could just stay there all night, there is no going back after that. You realize your entire life was a lie. There is no way to be nostalgic about that summer in 16 degrees water in Sweden.

The worst part of this is that it hasn't gotten better after 32 years of living here. We do not even get snow anymore, the snow lights everything up. You still get plenty snow where you are. It is just brown, grey, black. This november was apparently the cloudiest on record with the least amount of sun hours. There is a scientific basis for my grumpiness :(
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