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Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Mar 06 02:49:29
We continue to prepare for the end times.
The Children
Member
Fri Mar 06 03:33:43
cukold, have u taped all ur windows and doors yet.

jergul
large member
Fri Mar 06 03:41:40
http://pro...states/lower-respiratory/#2014

A map over counties by lower respiratory disease mortality (2014). I would track that more closely than I would actual reported corona virus cases.

What is up with union county florida? The median age is lower at 39 than florida's more general 42.

A county mortician that likes the code for pneumonia?
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Fri Mar 06 11:22:29

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If you’re freaking out about the #CoronaVirus watch Fox.

If you’re not freaking out about the virus watch CNN.

9:12 AM - 6 Mar 2020
patom
Member
Fri Mar 06 11:58:51
Why would anyone freak out when we have 'Trump has a Hunch' in the White House?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 06 12:08:45
"
Gallup just gave us the highest rating ever for the way we are handling the CoronaVirus situation. The April 2009-10 Swine Flu, where nearly 13,000 people died in the U.S., was poorly handled. Ask MSDNC & lightweight Washington failure @RonaldKlain, who the President was then?
"
~ the absurdly unfit 'president'

so now we have the target number we have to root for, for the idiot child not to run around the country doing victory laps & posting heroic music montages of himself & claiming the news was fake (i mean he's obviously going to do that no matter how many die, but whatever...)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 06 12:10:45
the handy link CC posted in 1, i reposted in 2, & jergul reposted in 3

http://gis...a7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Paramount
Member
Fri Mar 06 12:31:06
How come there are so many infected in Italy compared to lets say Germany or France?

More Chinese tourists in Italy? More Italian tourists in China?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 06 12:32:28
China, Iran & Italy are plotting WW3
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 06 12:50:41
Para
High reported infection rates is generally a function of high testing levels. But control that against number of deaths. 3.5% deaths of reported cases is norm.

Higher than 3.5% means lower testing levels
Lower than 3.5% means higher testing levels.
Paramount
Member
Fri Mar 06 13:06:11
” High reported infection rates is generally a function of high testing levels”


Yes, but is Germany not making as many tests as Italy is then?
Paramount
Member
Fri Mar 06 13:08:19
It looks like the Corona virus is good for Trumpsters and climate change deniers:

U.N. cancels key meetings ahead of climate summit due to coronavirus

http://www...e-to-coronavirus-idUSKBN20T2LJ
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 06 13:31:57
Compare the number of cases to the number of deaths to find out about Germany and Italy.

That is the contol.
Paramount
Member
Fri Mar 06 14:18:26
Coronavirus fears drive ammo sales spike in US, company says

On Friday, Ammo.com announced that in the 11 days from Feb. 23 -- when news of COVID-19 reached high levels of interest in the U.S. -- until March 4, the online ammunition retailer has seen a 68 percent increase in transactions and a 45 percent increase in conversation rates compared to the 11 days before Feb. 23.

"But it makes sense,” Horsman added. “A lot of our customers like to be prepared. And for many of them, it's not just facemasks and TheraFlu. It's knowing that no matter what happens, they can keep themselves and their families safe."

http://www...us-fears-lead-ammo-sales-spike


Yup. If there’s a flu virus it makes sense to buy more ammo to protect yourself.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 06 14:24:36
intentionally at 1 minute mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqCVB0tOSVQ&t=63
EuropeanPussy
Member
Fri Mar 06 16:23:19
After the corona crisis Italy will be a reborn country full of young people:

http://www...ggest-daily-jump-idUSKBN20T2ML

Italy is currently reporting more deaths per day from the virus than any other country in the world and the government this week ordered the closure of schools, universities, cinemas and theaters around the country to try to stem the infections.

The cumulative number of cases in the country, which has been the hardest hit in Europe by the epidemic, totaled 4,636 compared with 3,858 on Thursday.

The national health institute said the average age of those who had died so far was 81, with the vast majority suffering underlying health problems. Just 28% were women.

The fatality rate from the illness in Italy, which has one of the oldest populations in the world, is running at 4.25%, higher than in most other countries.
Average Ameriacn
Member
Fri Mar 06 16:37:37
Gooks are POISONING our money!

http://nyp...g-physical-dollars-from-china/


The US Federal Reserve has begun quarantining physical dollars that it repatriates from Asia before recirculating them in the US financial system as a precautionary measure against spreading the virus, a Fed spokesperson told Reuters.

She said regional Fed banks that help manage the money supply will set aside shipments of dollars from Asia for seven to 10 days before processing and redistributing them to financial institutions. The policy, first reported by Reuters, was implemented on Feb. 21, the official said.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 06 16:52:53
supposedly 21 have tested positive on the new cruise ship in the news

might be a good time to go on a cruise, prices should be way down
sam adams
Member
Fri Mar 06 17:35:51
Well the cats out of the bag on this one...

Or should i say the bats out of the lab?
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 06 17:53:13
We should have had enough tests ready to go and free testing before any of the outbreaks ocurred. We had over a fucking month. Stupid fucking Trump had to politicize the issue and ignore his scientists.

Iran did the same fucking thing. Iran for fuck’s sake.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Mar 06 18:37:54
The federal government needs to go WW2-style test production for a minor flu that only offs old people? lol
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 06 19:19:47
Like clockwork, Foreskin echoing fox news.

You fucking imbecile.
sam adams
Member
Fri Mar 06 19:40:16
Its trumps fault!!!!

-retard hat
sam adams
Member
Fri Mar 06 19:42:02
Im ordered to work from home for the forseeable future!!!

Woohoo!!!

I mean i work from home all the time but now i will feel less guilty about it.
sam adams
Member
Fri Mar 06 20:14:09
Lol trumps recent cdc speech was pretty retarded.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Mar 06 20:27:55
"echoing fox news."

You got a clip of Fox News saying that their principle market should be allowed to die off?

I'd be rofl'ing if so.

But probably not, because you project your echo bullshit onto others.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 06 21:12:54
The right-wing echo chamber is all saying it's just the Flu. Hannity is nonstop about it.

It's not just the flu, it's definitely deadlier and similar to the Spanish Flu in mortality.

The biggest issue is how contagious it is and how easily it spreads because many people take a while to develop symptoms. Our hospital system is designed with capitalist efficiency in mind so it has just enough beds and staff at any one time to deal with a normal patient load.

About 15-20% of people infected have needed hospitalization to deal with symptoms, about 5% need critical care. So even small outbreaks can overwhelm a healthcare system.

That's why the best strategy is to test everyone and to quarantine everyone infected. Slow down the disease by being careful and it's manageable. Not testing for it though is a fucking disaster and will make the spread fast enough so that it can overwhelm our healthcare system.

TLDR for cuckservatives: It can infect your parents and grandparents, and also re-infect you. It has killed young people too and you can get re-infected. Wash your hands and avoid people dumbasses.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 06 23:33:56
Lots of good articles on the coronavirus up at Vox. Cuckservatives hate facts though.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 06 23:51:50
some Trump rally goers interviewed @ 2:30
http://twitter.com/NBCNewsNow/status/1234653765724246019

person #1 - is not concerned as protected by Psalms 91 [lunatic], thinks overblown by media [fair point], thinks Trump will handle perfectly [lunatic]

person #2 - ** doesn't believe coronavirus exists, & the deaths reported are Dem hoaxes ** [proof that Trump & Fox News hosts should be executed]

person #3 - believes virus exists, but is wearing a "in god we trump" shirt so... lunatic
Forwyn
Member
Sat Mar 07 00:08:46
"It has killed young people too"

Mortality in the 30-40 range is .2%.

Less than that below 30, before hitting zero for under-10s.

So yeah, still not seeing a reason to institute wartime production and quarantine procedures to protect a Boomer population that everyone is waiting to die off anyway.

At least let it hit DC first
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 00:22:24
Forwyn hates his parents, but we probably all already knew that anyways.
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 07 00:43:38
Fowyn
Thing is, modern humans are not very good at dying. @50% infection rates, total mortality for the 30-40 range would almost double with .2%.

Nothing is scaled to meet that kind of challenge.
Daemon
Member
Sat Mar 07 01:38:32
Germany: officially 639 infected, 0 death.

The reason for zero fatality is obvious. The old people in Germany grew up in Nazi Germany which made them really really tough by order of Adolf Hitler:
http://www...eal-to-german-youth/a-16410476
At a Nazi Party rally in 1935, Hitler described his ideal of the Hitler Youth as "swift as a greyhound, as tough as leather, and as hard as Krupp's steel."


If only Germany had won the war we would now not need to fear the corona virus!
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 01:56:40
With that many cases some died and doctors called it the flu or cold, just like in the US where they found 2 people had already died of it in the retirement home weeks earlier.
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 07 02:49:59
The main reason is that most hospitals in Germany can now perform the test.

We can see the contures of true mortality in the German numbers. Something in the region of 0.5% for the population overall.

With that said, expect some deaths soon. Life prolonging interventions cannot keep some people alive indefinitely.
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 07 02:50:59
4-8 people will die soon to put a number on it.
Daemon
Member
Sat Mar 07 02:56:56
So far there is only one guy in critical condition and this is in my home town(translated):

http://www...ter-in-lebensgefahr-35248.html

Münster - For the first time in Germany a corona patient may have fallen into a life-threatening condition. The "Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland" reports that a man is lying in the intensive care unit of the University Hospital Münster. The patient had been given immunosuppressive drugs because of an upcoming organ transplantation.

These drugs are intended to prevent the body from rejecting transplanted organs, but at the same time increase sensitivity to all kinds of pathogens. In the evening, the hospital declined to comment on the report and did not want to confirm it.
[...]

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 07 03:28:41
...

I think your hitler youth theory just gain a bit of validity.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Mar 07 03:34:30
Dickface was giving everyone who was cautious and taking this seriously grief JUST DAYS AGO, in his usual dickface kind of way. Now he has seen the light and done a 180 as if he never had any other opinion about it!

I pity the fool who doesn’t take corona seriously.
-Mr D

We have always been at war with Eruasia.
-Dickhat

2-3% mortality dickhat? As deadly as the spanish flu? Nooo! I can’t beliebe it!

In all fairness he was waiting to see what angle he should take on corona so he would land on the right side when it was inevitably politicized. You grifting piece of human shit.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 03:52:39
Still playing politics and ad hominem attacks. We get it. You watch a lot of youtube videos and can't discern fact from fiction.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 03:57:05
Never would I assume the response would be this bungled.

We're looking at geometric rates of growth like Iran because this administration is not testing at all. Obama dealt with the Swine epidemic immediately after only 20 cases and no deaths.

And even if we didn't test like Iran, we have better-educated people so if the president told them to take it seriously and to wash their hands and avoid going out; it would be better contained. But he can't have that because the economy would slow down so he pretends like it's nothing.

Like, could Trump really be this dumb?

The answer as always is yes.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Mar 07 05:07:51
We knew what Trump would do, just like we know what you do. Unappologetic flipflopping anyway the windblows. No one has taken Corona serious like you have. No one understand corona better than you do. Eh?
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 05:19:20
What flip flopping? I always said it should be treated seriously. The only instance I did was when I made fun of the virus in a post where I said I was sad the next ipad would get delayed. You and Hood both have dicks up your asses. People have said worse things.

Just relax and let your dominatrix push your shit in you Iranian cuck.

BTW, how's your Iranian family doing? Probably all dead huh. WHOOPS.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Mar 07 05:46:27
Dukhat
Member Tue Feb 25 22:01:40

"Coronavirus turning out pretty good for the world."

"It's just another type of cold*. Low mortality but long incubation"

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Wed Feb 26 01:41:13
"Corona has so far a mortality rate of 2-3% which is substantially higher than 0.0005% (cdc numbers for flu season)."

Dukhat
Member Wed Feb 26 02:18:37
That's the high-end.

Dukhat
Member Wed Feb 26 09:05:23
Hood getting having PMS over Paramount's [Nimatzos] uncited numbers lol. The estimate is still just that an estimate until a country with a trustworthy government and medical system can provide numbers. 2-3% is based off Chinese numbers. We'll see what the South Koreans come up with.

It's great to believe in science. Next time, actually use some you fucking jackweed.


*Dukhat
Member Fri Mar 06 21:12:54
The right-wing echo chamber is all saying it's just the Flu. Hannity is nonstop about it.

I could have sworn dickface was saying it is just a cold/flu. Now it is the right-wing echo chamber saying it! Science! VOX!
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Mar 07 05:53:36
Clearly dickface, you said much more than iPad delays and with far more brevity that you seem to remember. A complete 180, literally (it's just a cold). This is more embarrassing than that one time you got all angry and cunty and said you were leaving UP.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 06:07:28
"Coronavirus turning out pretty good for the world.

...

Bad things:

1) New ipad will be delayed. Was planning on upgrading. Oh well."

I know you lack empathy as a transgender hating youtube-obsessed retard but the irony was inherent you autistic persian son of a bitch. Now go back to raping your wife while your countrymen drop like flies.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 06:09:55
Yeah, we have info now you stupid shit. South Korean numbers are the most reliable. .7% or so which is at least 4x deadlier than the cold. Manageable as long as spread is contained. Only it's not which means more people die to lack of access to hospitals and ventilators and treatment.

I know you're a fucking obsessed alt-right piece of shit who never contributes anything meaningful to any conversation other than your hatred of transgenders but try to pay attention.

And I don't care what you think. I am goading you on because I know you are upset about all the family members in Iran dying or endangered. You should probably try to do something about that instead of wasting both our time.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 06:10:53
the flu*
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Mar 07 06:21:01
There is no reason to cherry pick dickhat, I already quoted the important parts. Here is a TLDR.

Few days ago
It's just a cold.

Today
It's not just a cold.

-Dickface

Neither my family nor the transgenders can help you at this point Dickhat. You are on your own! This spray of unrelated insults is a sign of panic and insults, you are behaving like a cornered animal. There is a lesson to be learned for you, for sure. Changing an opinion is A OK dickface, but the manner in which you did, is Orwellian comedy and worthy of ridicule.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 07:30:58
I never excluded the fact it could be deadlier you stupid shit. I just said it wasn’t definitive and it still is not. The mortality date has a floor of .7% ala korea’s numbers. You’re just a stupid affirmative action persian monkey who got a token degree in sweden that lacks even basic reading skills.

As for the disease itself, the real reason it’s deadly is because it’s so infectious. The US needed to massively test and also mandatorily quarantine all those affected. It does’t matter what the mortality rate is if a ton of people are infected. The flu itself already strains the medical system. Now we will see Covid-19 blow it up because the Trump administration was really that incompetent.
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 10:31:30
Did that retard cuckhat just say vox was a good source while complaining about the other sides echo chamber?

Lol how retarded.
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 10:38:29
Anyway the death rate for elderly folks does match spanish flu, but for the young it certainly does not.

Making this virus scary but not that scary.
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 10:42:17
http://i.imgur.com/dcc6Gsmg.jpg
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 07 12:20:20
Italy reports 1,247 new cases in biggest daily rise
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 13:06:49
Ya the us response has been bad but other first world countries are struggling too.

Not that italy is first world but germany korea and japan are.
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 13:08:14
Us death toll at 17. And this is usually the time of day where seattle reports its latest deaths.

Still no previously healthy folks amongst the dead.
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 13:15:30
Grand princess is still steaming in circles at the mouth of san Francisco bay at 12kt. Thats gotta suck.
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 13:18:56
Is the cruise industry forever fucked by this? I mean demand for flying and hotels will bounce back... but will cruises?
The Children
Member
Sat Mar 07 13:59:44
u r fucked.

just 1 ship has 9000 peoples on board. so 9000 cases in just 1 day.

damn. in just 1 day, u just jumped 2 first place position, bitch.


sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 14:21:28
Lol tc math

Go eat bat get smarter
Daemon
Member
Sat Mar 07 14:32:08
"Ya the us response has been bad but other first world countries are struggling too."

Tomorrow I will go to a concert and I assume there will be about 500 to 1000 other people. Should the government forbid events like this one? No I don't think so. So it is inviteable that the infection spreads. Unless we find a permanent vaccination we will simply have to live with the virus forever.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 16:25:29
Yes because the faster this thing spreads, the more people will become sick and strain the system.

About 15% require hospitalization and 5% require critical care. Our hospital system will be overwhelmed if people get infected too fast just like Italy and Iran.

Too many people act like its nothing which will make the spread worse and possibly overwhelm our medical system which means more deaths just from lack of access to medical care.

Because our president and right-wing media have said it’s a hoax a big chunk of people are going to act like it’s nothing and make the spread so much worse. It has a significant chance of getting really bad. Actually it’s pretty much mathematically guaranteed.
Paramount
Member
Sat Mar 07 17:59:22
” The plight of 3,500 people aboard the Grand Princess took a dramatic and complicated turn Friday when U.S. government officials ordered the cruise ship to dock at an undisclosed port after tests confirmed that 21 crew and guests were infected with the new coronavirus.”


The US fovernment is basically kidnapping them and taking them to a secret location where they will be locked up for God knows how long. Perhaps they will run some tests and experiments on these people. Maybe they will force them to change sex, like Chelsea Manning.

http://www...nts-businesses-on-15111654.php
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 07 18:33:40
Remember that international transport is regulated by laws going back to the 18th century.

The rules are in place to deal with pandemics. Its the same kind of rules that makes sure airlines cannot strand you in countries.
sam adams
Member
Sat Mar 07 19:51:21
Id so much rather be quarantined at a naval base on land than in a floating petri dish.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 07 21:30:39
We quarantined the other cruise passengers at military bases so I don't know what the hangup is except for the huge number. It's probably Trump because he doesn't want to increase the number of cases.

Also this thing has a confirmed case that was at CPAC or whatever it was called in late February. So it's already spreading among the dumbest of the dumb who will say, "See it's nothing" while infecting their family and friends en masse and killing off the most vulnerable among them.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 07 21:43:00
"It's probably Trump because he doesn't want to increase the number of cases."

no probably about it, he flat out said it

also of note, it's 21 out of the 46 tested... ~3450 passengers remain in a state of being infected or not infected


as to CPAC

"CPAC chairman Matt Schlapp tells me he interacted with attendee who has tested positive for coronavirus. While the timeline is unknown, Schlapp shook Trump's hand on stage the last day of the conference. "

dare to dream... even if extremely unlikely to have passed to Trump, just having him hear that story will probably drive him (more) crazy w/ paranoia :p
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 07 23:09:06
"A final chance to evacuate from the COVID19 red zone. People rush to catch the last trains leaving Lombardy after government declared the quarantine and lockdown of 16 million people in Northern Italy. The mandatory quarantine will last until early April."
[w/ video of people seeming to hustle somewhat]

http://twitter.com/howroute/status/1236465294522097664

a nice ominous feel
Dukhat
Member
Sun Mar 08 00:54:30
Do they get tested if they evacuate the red zone? Otherwise it's like rats jumping off a plague ship.
jergul
large member
Sun Mar 08 10:07:48
US reporting skillz on the number of infections has begun to remind me of the trasparency the USSR had on the Chernobyl meltdown.
jergul
large member
Sun Mar 08 10:20:15
"Currently, there are about 75,000 coronavirus tests available for the American public, US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union” today.

"By early next week – tomorrow – we should have over 2 million tests available. By the end of the week, through partnerships with private industry, over 4 million tests available," Adams said. "But the most important number to the American people is one. They want to know if I go in, can I get a test? And the one thing that I’ve heard – I’ve been to Georgia, I’ve been to Georgia, I’ve been to Connecticut in the past week – is that no public health doctor who was asked for a test has not been able to get a test. So people should talk to their healthcare providers."

Yet when Tapper asked how many people have been tested, Adams said, "The numbers are tough because they're changing minute by minute."

Tapper responded, "Just the rough numbers?"

Adams later said, "I would refer you to the CDC for that because, again, the numbers change so rapidly.""

Rodina!
Dukhat
Member
Sun Mar 08 11:05:24
You know who barely has any cases despite being near the epicenter?

Hong Kong.

Why?

From the begginig, they tested aggressively. Quarantined aggressively (with electronic monitoring). And their citizens take this shit seriously after SARS and MERS.

We've had this thing spreading for over a month now and it's in over a dozen states. And we haven't even gotten to the testing part.

We're fucking boned. Hospitals are going to overloaded in a month.
jergul
large member
Sun Mar 08 16:59:12
The US just passed Japan in number of cases.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Mar 08 18:06:53
The badger living on his head protects him from any illness.
Daemon
Member
Sun Mar 08 18:11:23
Germany has now more than 900 infected persons. The first German has now died, although he died in Egypt as a tourist.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 08 18:26:28
looks like John Hopkins gave the point to Egypt, so Germany still clean

so Trump has two options... send our dying people to another country, or collapse where they live China-style

===================

Ben Carson performing as expected:
http://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/1236645015255998464

George: what's the plan for the cruise ship?
Ben: we're coming up w/ one within 72 hrs
George: but the ship's docking tomorrow
Ben: it'll be in place then
George: so what's the plan
Ben: i don't want to preview it
George: why?
Ben: it's a surprise

how about just saying "i don't know anything" as is obvious...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 08 18:46:30
Ted Cruz will self-quarantine after having an affair w/ the infected CPAC member

(first half of that true... second half unknown)
Habebe
Member
Sun Mar 08 19:03:07
Well, that's not what was said.

It is bad though that it is believable.

What he actually said was that Pence met with the cruise ship company leaders and that within 72 hrs from that meeting they had agreed to formulate a plan.

He then said pretty much to hear it from Pence not me so as to not send mixed measages.
Habebe
Member
Sun Mar 08 19:03:08
Well, that's not what was said.

It is bad though that it is believable.

What he actually said was that Pence met with the cruise ship company leaders and that within 72 hrs from that meeting they had agreed to formulate a plan.

He then said pretty much to hear it from Pence not me so as to not send mixed measages.
Forwyn
Member
Sun Mar 08 20:54:22
"Forwyn hates his parents, but we probably all already knew that anyways."

My parents are under 60, and the previous smoker is female, so risk factors are still relatively low. Grandparents are all dead already. /shrug

"@50% infection rates, total mortality for the 30-40 range would almost double with .2%."

.4% is relatively insignificant when you consider H1N1 had an all-age group mortality of 11%. Corona doesn't get into double digits even in age-specific designations until patients are over 80.

CrownRoyal
Member
Sun Mar 08 22:14:47
“ Ted Cruz will self-quarantine after having an affair w/ the infected CPAC member ”

Too many jokes about catching the retarded virus at cpac. But, not for nothing, US Senate is pretty old. Calgary Ted can corovirus to death a sizeable chunk of the chamber.
Dukhat
Member
Sun Mar 08 22:44:21
It's not just the mortality numbers. About 10-15% of people have needed hospitalization (ventilator help) and 5% ICU care. And the low-end of mortality was .6% in Korea where they have tested incredibly aggressively and have treated everyone. That's at least 3x deadlier than the flu. China had a much greater mortality rate (take the numbers for what they are) because their hospitals were swamped and people died at home or waiting for a bed.

People who don't really suffer from it are the most deadly because they show no symptoms but can infect a lot of people. If enough people are infected, then the hospital system is overwhelmed. And it really doesn't take much. Our capitalist healthcare system only builds enough beds to be profitable for the average number of cases it expects.

If millions get it, that's hundreds of thousands that will need ventilators and tens of thousands that need ICU care.

Politics aside, everyone should just assume that they have it and wash their hands and avoid interacting with people, especially older people.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 08 23:25:12
Rep Paul Gosar also self-quarantining over sucking the dick of the CPAC person

(half true / half unknown)

-------------

"
Here are some of the other people who may have been in the green room on Thursday afternoon at the same time as the CPAC #coronavirus infectee:

- Rep Louie Gohmert;
- Ronna McDaniel
- Michael Knowles
- Kay James
- KellyAnne Conway
- Betsy Devos
- Rep Matt Gaetz
- Diamond/Silk
"
~some reporter doing detective work:
http://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1236843649775947776

a shame this thing isn't much deadlier... of the 6.5 people i'm familiar with on that list, not a single one i'd even consider sparing
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 09 10:26:37
Meanwhile in Iran

"Many religious people have begun posting videos of themselves licking and kissing mosque decorations as a cure and a preventive measure against the disease,"

No wonder they're all dieing.

http://www...ut-it-stops-protests-1.8639593
Dukhat
Member
Mon Mar 09 10:32:04
If this kills both the religious leadership of Iran and Trump, Thanos will be very happy.

Perfectly balanced. As all things should be.
Daemon
Member
Mon Mar 09 11:37:56
The dying has started in Germany (automatically translated):

http://www...-in-deutschland-gestorben.html

One of the victims is an 89-year-old woman from Essen who has been treated in the university hospital there since the beginning of March. She had died of pneumonia as a result of the coronavirus infection, the city of Essen announced on Monday. The District Administrator of Heinsberg wanted to give more information about the other dead person(s) in the evening. On Sunday, a firefighter from Hamburg had already died of coronavirus in Egypt.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

hood
Member
Mon Mar 09 11:52:53
"What he actually said was that Pence met with the cruise ship company leaders and that within 72 hrs from that meeting they had agreed to formulate a plan.

He then said pretty much to hear it from Pence not me so as to not send mixed measages."

No, that isn't what he said. He said they would have the plan within 72 hours of the meeting. There was no implication that a plan was complete, instead there was a very clear indication that the plan had not been completed.


To be crystal:
- Pence met with cruise ship company the day before the clip.
- the ship was coming into port the day after the clip.
- the day of the clip, Carson suggested first that the plan would be ready within 72 hours (of current time) and then when pressed, amended it to say 72 hours from the meeting Pence had.
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 09 11:55:49
Hood, Were not disagreeing. He specifically said it had yet to be formulated.
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 09 11:56:59
Why is Italy so bad?
jergul
large member
Mon Mar 09 12:06:35
7 infected in Mexico. Now is the time to get it to pay for the wall. Hell, Mexico might build it too.

Habebe
Are you sure it is so bad? But there were seval trade shows in the Nnorth not that long ago. Haute Coiture meets the bubonic plague.
CrownRoyal
Member
Mon Mar 09 12:10:22
I'm going to mexico tomorrow. Fuck it, I need some ocean.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Mar 09 13:03:18
RIP CR
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 09 13:10:32
Paul Gosar is losing it after less than a day of self-quarantine:

"Been thinking about life and mortality today. I’d rather die gloriously in battle than from a virus. In a way it doesn’t matter. But it kinda does."
[w/ picture of people stabbing each other in medieval combat]

http://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1237052471047892993
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Mon Mar 09 13:16:15
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/EScdH8XWoAAW0Ng.jpg
Daemon
Member
Mon Mar 09 14:01:31
Pardon me but I laughed:

http://www...test-over-coronavirus-measures

Italian penitentiary police said Monday that six inmates protesting virus containment measures at a northern Italian lockup have died after they broke into the infirmary and overdosed on methadone.
[...]
sam adams
Member
Mon Mar 09 14:09:23
Lol pwnt
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Mar 09 14:19:42
Which government will collapse first?
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 09 14:24:42
Iran.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 09 14:25:01
Afghanistan (for unrelated reasons)
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 09 14:28:14
There idea of prevention is to lick religious decorations to both prevent and cure covid19 ....that cant end well.

Hell this may be great for US foriegn policy in the middle east. Its already taking out high ups in Irans government and can't be good for Hezbollah who id imagine habe terrible health plans.
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