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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 10 22:08:15
...continuing from Trump being pathetic garbage
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 10 22:12:31
The deficit seems to go up the same under any potus.

The Intel agencies and the media have done more on there own to discredit themselves.

Oh and the best thing abput Trump? There is absolutley zero political correctness, I like that. If someone is a pos he says so.

Lets not beat around the bush John McCain was a war hero because he got caught. Its like the Simpson's episode when the kid who fell.down the well was a hero.Trumps just the only guy with the balls and lackmof political correctness to say it and not apologize.

As for his accomplishments, what did Obama do? Healthcare and the bailouts, not much else..

What would Hillary have done for ME ( a deplorable) that was better than what Trump has done?
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 10 22:13:11
Also its sort of 29. Not 30, but meh, splitting hairs.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 10 22:18:16
28.2 is more 29ish than this one

the deficit went down under Clinton & Obama

"because he got caught" - McCain refused early release, staying w/ his fellow POWs longer than he had to... no credit there?

i'm not comparing him to Obama or Hillary, why not expect better from the R side? he's garbage
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 10 22:23:24
Id point to JFK as a comparison.

Mamy dems loved him, and didn't care that he was banging everything he could get his hands on ( even known mafia whores)

Or eithernof the Clintons, riddled with scandals more than anyone pre-trump.

Not to.mention Hillary is disgusted that I exist and was supported mainly by angry man hating lesbians, minorities, lgbtq-xyz who all also hate that I exist, why should I vote for that because Trump acts like a nut?
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 10 22:28:31
Honestly I couldn't thinknof a person id rather have.

I enjoy the way he talks. He generally has followes though with his promises. Much more so than i thought or most presidents.

I wish he would bring the troops home faster and get a replacement for HC ( HC savings accounts :)

And infrastructure, othwr than that, im good. Foriegn policy has been doing well imo.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 10 22:34:33
I would even argue Trump is one of the most honest presidents we have ever had. I understand you response is to think the exact opposite is true.

Political correctness is inherently deceptive.

Under Obama the US was never at war. We Marley had an overseas contingency operation.

Now thats just an example,im sure I could find a plethora more of I wanted to.

How is that any less deceptive than having a " perfect phone call"?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 10 22:34:51
i'm not asking you to vote for a Dem (although you should this time as it's the only non-garbage choice, unless some 3rd party rockets to the top of polls)... i'm asking you to expect better, FAR better, from your team

as to Hillary hating you, if you're referring to 'deplorables', she said there are TWO baskets of Trump supporters... those who are worried about jobs/etc (i don't recall her language) in one basket, and the asshole deplorables in the other. She NEVER said all Trump supporters were deplorable, despite team LIAR spreading that nonsense (although she shouldn't have said 'half' are deplorable, though she didn't mean literally half, just indicating 2 significant groups... if you deny people do this, you are mistaken)


also of note, Trump's 'not a hero' thing is basically same as his 'founded ISIS' thing... Trump knows NOTHING about McCain's war record, just that he was captured, so Mr. Bonespurs used that sole nugget of basic info to instead claim he wasn't a hero
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 10 22:40:07
"I would even argue Trump is one of the most honest presidents we have ever had."

yikes... i can't even touch this one...

we may be too far apart to ever see each other :p
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 10 22:41:12
Shendidnt say all were, she said half were. Now she probably did mean two groups but who knows.

With Trump as rough as his outside voice is, thats him all the way down, Hillarys outside voice has never met her inside.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 10 22:47:35
" He always tells the truth, even when he lies" is what I mean by being honest.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 10 22:50:50
there's no 'who knows' about it

Hillary:
"
You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. (Laughter/applause) Right? (Laughter/applause) They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic – Islamophobic – you name it. And unfortunately, there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people – now have 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks – they are irredeemable, but thankfully, they are not America.

But the "other" basket – the other basket – and I know because I look at this crowd I see friends from all over America here: I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas and — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that "other" basket of people are people who feel the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures; and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but — he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.
"


she's not wrong... considering she prefaced w/ 'grossly generalistic'

i'm sure there are many other smaller baskets but those two existed
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i assume R's could find someone who is actually honest & tough without being a total fraud liar child shitbag easily-manipulated-by-dictators moron who will destroy the country

i hope you & those like you can see through his thick coating of orange bullshit before November
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 11 12:33:18
"
Based on the president's Twitter feed and public remarks, the most important story right now for him is not how the country is faring under the coronavirus, but how he is being perceived throughout.
"
~ Maggie Haberman (NY Times) (replying to a Trump tweet attacking Vanity Fair)

this is pretty obvious if you view his tweets or listen to him speak

and a pattern... he does the same for hurricanes, or the Russia investigation for that matter... at the start it was just about his campaign, no one was specifically implicating Trump, the stories were about fringe members... yet Trump consistently throughout made it entirely about him personally (plus he's obviously never cared about any of the info uncovered about Russian hacking or interference... as he's a petty child who is wholly unfit for office)

and same for North Korea... only perception of how he's done rather than actual results...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 11 13:10:29
Pandumbic (video)
http://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1237519854204342273
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 11 14:25:08
"
Someone needs to tell the Democrats in Congress that CoronaVirus doesn’t care what party you are in. We need to protect ALL Americans!
"
~ the unfit cellular mass

another call to stop politicizing by politicizing

also unclear who/what he's even criticizing... Dems are the ones who called for more funding than Trump wanted (then Trump pretended a victory of his, of course)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 11 18:48:03
The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

http://www...ecrecy-exclusive-idUSKBN20Y2LM

#chernobyl
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 11 18:58:31
the last 'daily' press briefing by a white house press secretary was 1 year ago today


keep up the resistance. Wolverines!
Habebe
Member
Wed Mar 11 19:21:36
Pre emotive preparedness against pandemics... The man is brilliant.
Habebe
Member
Wed Mar 11 19:21:37
Pre emotive preparedness against pandemics... The man is brilliant.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 11 20:14:35
'Europe didn't do the great travel bans I ordered, and so they got infected and now infected us' (paraphrase)

Diplomacy!

I wonder if this is based on anything whatsoever... infected Chinese could've easily come here before his ban
Habebe
Member
Wed Mar 11 20:15:45
Well now European travel with the US is banned ( Friday midnight)
jergul
large member
Thu Mar 12 00:16:20
TW
No, it was European travellers flying in to Washington State that brought it to the US.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Mar 12 00:32:05
So fucking stupid. Trump is a moron.
hood
Member
Thu Mar 12 00:39:10
"Hillary is disgusted that I exist"

This is how stupid kid hot rod is.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 12 10:41:48
someone is retweeting the hell out of CDC/medical people for him, but he's still slipping in his nonsense:

"
Many Republican Senators want me to Veto the FISA Bill until we find out what led to, and happened with, the illegal attempted “coup” of the duly elected President of the United States, and others!
"
~ TOTAL GARBAGE

what illegal attempted “coup” was that? but i'm sure Fox News watchers all think it happened... no need for anyone to find evidence of it...

Barr probably hoping Trump loses so he doesn't ever have to come up w/ his report that has to contradict all findings so far
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Mar 12 12:01:18
Donald is 100% on point, laser like focus on the virus and economy, I see.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 12 15:59:32
he also resurrected a week old tweet about Schumer's 'threats' to the Supreme Court

i guess trying to give Fox News something to discuss again instead of Trumps failure as a leader & reader
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 12 16:22:12
Trump: "We have em heavily tested. If an American coming back or anybody coming back, we're testing, we have a tremendous testing set up where people coming in have to be tested ... if it shows positive... we have to quarantine."

fact-checker: "People are NOT being tested upon their return to the US. Some are being SCREENED at airports - observed quickly for any obvious symptoms, having temperatures checked, filling out forms - not having a coronavirus test."

http://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1238145967993610242

ima believe the fact-checker
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 00:10:51
"
Sleepy Joe Biden was in charge of the H1N1 Swine Flu epidemic which killed thousands of people. The response was one of the worst on record. Our response is one of the best, with fast action of border closings & a 78% Approval Rating, the highest on record. His was lowest!
"
~ filth

this was tweeted by Trump 3/12/2020 (for the record)

speculation is that 78% is from a Feb 3 to Feb 16 Gallup poll... as his coronavirus approval now seems nowhere near that and likely still plummeting

let's see how it plays out & how long he touts his approval rating

(plus his claim Biden's rating being lowest on record is made-up bullshit as one would expect from this complete and total garbage fraud)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 12:18:43
a good thing Fox & Friends is highest rated morning 'news' show (if it even is):
http://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1238446956793528320

^Jerry Falwell Jr sticking w/ the virus hype is 'just to get Trump' theory, and speculates virus could be a North Korean bioweapon

i wonder why all those other countries closing shit down... the entire world also scamming to get Trump i guess
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:24:16
"the entire world also scamming to get Trump i guess"

Trump is the enemy of globalism. It shouldn't be a surprise that the world hates him.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 12:27:08
and Trump personally canceled travel from Europe because?
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:41:32
Tw, To respond to your way earlier post about healthcare. Yes Trump has failed as ofnyet to provide a good alternative HC solution.

Obama care failed to though. Premiums went up" a lot.why? Fewer healthy people didn't buy in than expected.

But yes, sonfar Trump has failed on HC.

Unfortunately the best alternative seems to be medicare for all ( Bernie) which is one ofnthe reasons I like bernie, thing is I dont think he could pass it.
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:45:05
An abundance of caution. Given that Europe is mostly controlled by communists, it's not beyond them to be intentionally infecting their own citizens in an effort to bring down Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 12:58:50
"Yes Trump has failed as of yet to provide a good alternative HC solution"

this isn't the only problem... his fans should be boiling w/ rage that he keeps claiming to have a better plan when there is NO plan (he is a FRAUD, selling a non-existent product)...

plus he KNOWS NOTHING about the topic, and THAT IS RIDICULOUS

expect better
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 13:31:04
Tw, I think the issue is that in general webhave become accustomed to be lied to and screwed by politicians, Trump seems to be the lesser of two evils so to speak.
Rugian
Member
Fri Mar 13 13:35:24
Habebe, you'll never convince him with that argument. A major Democratic candidate literally announced that his intent was to unleash a socialist revolution upon America, and TW still preferred him over Trump because "well his CHARACTER..."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 14:00:38
all Dem candidates can talk about healthcare specifics... all R candidates last time could talk about healthcare specifics

Trump's first time in debates asked for his plan for healthcare said he'd allow companies to sell across state lines & then there'd be many plans (so he didn't even understand the concept... the difference between people's policies vs overall structure)

he has no idea what Obamacare is, as evidenced many times by how he speaks about it

Trump has been president 3 years, sadly, and went thru extensive effort by R's to pass a plan... he never learned a thing about any of them, even semi-famously told R's not to worry about the specifics

he is a moron, who doesn't put in the work... at all
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 14:54:22
Pence's remarks (as always) begin w/ heavy praise for Trump...

he's patient 0 in the actual Trump Derangement Syndrome
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 15:23:08
i didn't see Trump's opening comments, but in Q/A he was asked when everyone who wants a test will be able to get one & if takes any responsibility for testing failure so far

"i take no responsibility" was his answer obviously, & blamed system that was in place, but also went back to his repeated effort to say doing way better than biden/obama did w/ swine flu, as characterized in this tweet:

"
Trump, bashing the Obama administration again, falsely claims that, with H1N1, "They didn't do testing like this" and that they didn't do testing until "far too late." The H1N1 testing numbers were exponentially higher.
"
(~ CNN fact-checker)


also, this info from David Frum:
"
H1N1 was first diagnosed in US April 15, 2009.

CDC activated emergency operations April 22.

1 million tests released by May 15.
"


i'm not going to go back & research Swine Flu stats (just like Trump) to verify who is right... but i have absolutely no difficulty believing Trump just making shit up... (as. he. does. constantly.) There's really no reason to even suspect Trump is right, since he's never researched a thing ever.

But if someone wants to try to prove Trump is right, & the adults who actually do research are wrong, go ahead
CrownRoyal
Member
Fri Mar 13 15:32:48
Donald said he doesn't have to get tested because he has no symptoms. (He met with people in mar o lago who tested positive.) Then proceeds to shake hands with many people.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 15:35:01
and he kept insisting he didn't see the picture when reporters noting he took a picture w/ infected guy... who cares if you saw the picture...

he eventually said he probably will get tested, but made sure to note not for the reasons reporters mentioned (because he's a petty fucking child)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 15:42:32
here's that exchange:
http://twitter.com/cspan/status/1238564574145794049

^ he already had noted he didn't know the guy (so i guess strangers can't spread the virus?)... so the reporter lays out as an adult to the child, 'even if you don't know him...' etc
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 15:45:39
"
My Q: You said you don’t take responsibility for slow response to coronavirus but your administration disbanded the White House office on pandemics?

President Trump: “That’s a nasty question...When you say me, I didn't do it. We have a group of people [in the administration].”
"
~Yamiche Alcindor

(a fairly accurate depiction)

the buck stops w/... those other unspecified people
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 16:05:57
solid anti-Trump argument:

"
The hour of national emergency that this administration and our mendacious, incompetent, narcissistic, ignorant and buffoonish President are completely incapable and unequipped to handle has arrived. Let this be the end of the reality show era of American politics.

There will be some voices who say this is not a time for politics. They could not be more wrong. It is not a time to politicize a global pandemic but it is certainly a time to recognize our politics invests the power of life and death decision making in a President.

Too many Americans have underestimated the chances for a real crisis and real tragedy to reach our shores. History did not end and danger did not abate with the election of a NYC Conman, inveterate liar and boorish reality show clown lacking any sense of dignity or probity

Trump has divided the country and stoked a cold civil war between us for more than three years. He has made no pretense about trying to be a President for all of us. He is a leader of a faction that has articulated nothing but enmity and hostility towards his fellow Americans.

He has hollowed out the government, prizing personal fealty over competence. He has attacked our vital institutions and demeaned and disparaged our heroes and men and women who have spent a lifetime serving the nation and all of us. He has disgraced his office and endangered us.

A great political contest looms. A choice as important and decisive as any in the nations history lies ahead. The 2020 election and its outcome will be as decisive for the nations future as the elections of 1864 and 1940. The choice is between decline and renewal

Between indecency and decency. Between incompetence and competence. Between Truth and Lies. The choice will be between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The choice will be between a bad man (Trump) and a good man (Biden). The choice will be between a dishonorable man (Trump)

And an honorable man (Biden) The choice will be between an incompetent and divisive bungler (Trump) and a competent and unifying leader (Biden). The stakes are too high to pretend the Democratic nomination isn’t over. The work of assembling a vast coalition to defeat Trump

Must begin now. The nation and the American people will be tested in the weeks and months ahead. What we will see from the American people is an exposition of our national character. We will see the qualities of greatness and kindness. We will see the power of love and sacrifice.

We will see how much better the American people are than our corrupted and indecent President and his phalanx of enablers. The American people have never flagged in an hour of testing and they will not now. Let the answer to the coming test point the way back to the light
"
~ Steve Schmidt (a Republican until 2018, now Independent because of the fraud moron)

http://twi...SES/status/1238503827181051906

...pretty sure he's not 'just upset because Hillary lost'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 16:44:34
"
Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
"
~2013 Trump (presumably was some attack on Obama)

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776
CrownRoyal
Member
Fri Mar 13 18:41:03
"Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible. "

As Rod used to say, "BIG DIFFERENCE". That was private citizen Donald. Once he became president, things changed
CrownRoyal
Member
Fri Mar 13 21:04:29
Complete MAGA achieved now

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http://www...html?__twitter_impression=true

Mexico is considering closing its border to stop Americans bringing coronavirus into its country as US case count passes 2,000

Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 21:12:08
Wow. Mexico is closing the border AND paying for it.... douche Mr Trump, touche.
CrownRoyal
Member
Fri Mar 13 21:18:06
That's why the wall was never needed, better to turn the country to an unattractive shithole, so nobody wants to come
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 14 11:48:02
SOCIAL DISTANCING!
http://twi...ump/status/1238824050924883968
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 11:49:57
re: oval office speech


Karl: How does President Trump get things wrong about his own proposals?

Secretary Mnuchin: “I don’t think he got things wrong at all.”

Karl: “Cargo is not banned.”

Mnuchin: “We were very clear that people misinterpreted the comment on cargo.”

http://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/1239177008179011585

this should just be illegal... blatant lies straight to the public by supposed public servants...

or at least automatic firing


Trump's words as read (from WhiteHouse.gov):
"...these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things as we get approval. Anything coming from Europe to the United States is what we are discussing."


if you think that includes 'trade & cargo', YOU are the one misinterpreting... Dear Leader makes NO mistakes!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 14:13:01
"
So now it is reported that, after destroying his life & the life of his wonderful family (and many others also), the FBI, working in conjunction with the Justice Department, has “lost” the records of General Michael Flynn. How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!
"
~ corrosive cancer blob

just the President saying the FBI & DOJ are incompetent and corrupt... no biggie

so what Fox News story is he referring to?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 14:15:18
"
Can’t believe they are not going after Schumer for the threats he made to our cherished United States Supreme Court, and our two great Justices. If a Republican did that, there would be an endless price to pay. Pathetic!
"
~ vomit-inducing pile of fecal-smeared refuse
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 14:32:57
today (so far), Trump has attacked Schumer, Hillary, Biden, the FBI, the DOJ & the media

today being a 'day of prayer' as declared by him

so godly!
Rugian
Member
Sun Mar 15 14:36:05
What in any of that has interfered with your ability to pray to him, exactly?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 14:39:03
i'm skeptical he has been praying... i'm skeptical he would know how to pray

i don't care that he can't pray... i care that he pretends to, and morons believe it... plus all the other obvious nonsense he spews...

also there are retards out there saying Trump is trying to unify the country, and it's just the left being partisan

if Fox would continually criticize the idiot child as he deserves, his behavior would actually change (same as a regular child)... instead they reinforce his behavior, causing it to continue & worsen
Dukhat
Member
Sun Mar 15 14:59:53
Trump is an empty vessel. The only thing he cares about is stonks and the only reason he cares is because he's pinned his reelecton to it. And the only reason he wants to win reelection is to deal with his rampant insecurity over the fact that Obama humiliated him years ago at the White House Correspondent's Dinner.

He's a 90-iq trust fund idiot that got even dumber as he got more experience due to his hedonistic lifestyle and complete lack of intellectual curiousity.

I mean, fucking Dubya looks like a genius compared to Trump (and Bush was always well above average in intelligence despite liberals hating him).
patom
Member
Sun Mar 15 15:45:03
Tumbleweed, FOX has no influence on Trump. Simply because the only voices that Trump listens to are those bouncing around in his scull. Besides the National Enquirer is standing in the wings waiting to become the official Voice of the Administration.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 16:16:50
i disagree... it's his lifeline, he can watch that to feel like he's a superhero

he requires praise & watches TV all day to listen for it (plus it's where he gets all his info)

even Fox News got pushed too far on Helsinki & with Trump saying accepting help from foreign countries was fine, & both times forcing Trump to do a walk-back... it was bullshit both times, but still the only thing that makes him retreat
Habebe
Member
Sun Mar 15 17:03:33
Meh, f Bloomberg can spend half a billion dollars and failbthat epic I don't think Russians with 50-100k have any chance tondo anything.

The Russian thing seems like a stunt from Hillary. Anyone she doesn't like seems to be a russian asset.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 17:52:54
i saw that failed logic before... no one claims Russia got Trump -every- vote... it was ~75,000 votes across 3 states that changed the outcome of election (~0.2-0.7% in each state)

and just a matter of turning a voter into a non-voter, or vice versa, don't have to swing someone from one candidate to another (which would count as a +2 if you did manage it)

87,810 Michigan voters declined to vote for a presidential candidate at all, compared to 49,840 in 2012 (plus tons of potential voters didn't vote at all of course)

Hillary only need about 12,000 more votes to win Michigan
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 18:29:40
Trump in January (first US case): "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China."

Trump in February (36 confirmed cases): "We have it very much under control in this country."

Trump today (3,000+ cases): "It's something we have tremendous control of."


you can sense his solid grasp of the situation... carefully listening to experts & reading through his briefings to ensure he gives the best & most accurate info to the public

(something ANY OTHER adult would be doing...)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 15 23:50:33
police guy Trump pardoned:

"
Why do I feel this hysteria is being created to destabilize the country, and destroy the unparalleled and historic economic successes of President @realDonaldTrump?
"
~Bernard B. Kerik

how is this narrative managing to continue even when Trump himself is now on board the hysteria by canceling travel & with his own task force promoting the measures?
... plus, see Italy...

Trump cultists are scary, their brains have completely checked out
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 16 13:22:47
"
Just had a very good tele-conference with Nations’s Governors. Went very well. Cuomo of New York has to “do more”.
"
~ petty child

anyone think Cuomo wasn't doing something that all the others were doing?

so pathetic
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 16 15:07:28
"This is a bad one. This is a very bad one. This is bad in the sense that it's so contagious. It's just so contagious. Sort of record-setting type contagion."
~ Trump is part of the conspiracy to hurt Trump!

Trump is trying to end capitalism! all a hoax, don't listen to him, re-elect Trump!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 17 11:48:15
Trump claims his tone about the virus hasn't changed at all

fraud
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 17 14:43:42
Newt Gingrich, Feb 27: "The city of San Francisco, in its usual irresponsible way, has already declared an emergency"

Newt Gingrich, today: "Faced with a pandemic threat, history teaches us it is far better to be over prepared than underprepared."


i assume we'll get the same on climate change, just over a longer period of time
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 17 14:53:38
Jan. 22: "Are there worries about a pandemic at this point?"

Trump's response: "No. Not at all. And -- we're -- we have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."


Trump today (when denying change in his tone): "I've always known this is a real -- this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Mar 17 15:20:08
"
Trump's "spiritual adviser" (and head of the White House's "Faith and Opportunity Initiative" program) Paula White asked for cash during a coronavirus-related prayer session this afternoon.

"Maybe you’d like to sow a $91 seed... Or maybe $9. Or whatever God tells you to do."
"
<includes video>
http://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1239980685982666753

Trump probably feels stupid for not getting in on that particular scam... he'll probably start a ministry after he's booted from office
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 18 11:59:14
"
I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the “borders” from China - against the wishes of almost all. Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!
"
~ congenital liar
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Mar 18 21:37:10
Fox News has started tweeting again... hooray

they had been boycotting Twitter for a very long time... probably over some false nonsense
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 20 11:52:29
reporter: "what do you say to Americans who are scared?"
Trump: "i say you're a terrible reporter"
http://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1241041500936568838

(was after some back n forth about Trump expressing his typical fraud optimism about chloroquine without much supporting evidence)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 20 12:06:45
poor Fauci can't believe this moron is in charge

http://twitter.com/MaxLewisTV/status/1241045021979291653
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 20 13:04:52
That account was sure suspended fast.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 20 13:10:21
damn nazis (actually the guy just deleted the tweet)... here's another version of it
http://twitter.com/Walldo/status/1241044023445524481
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 21 11:39:04
"HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents).....
....be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!"
~ some moron

hopefully this blows up in his face

Fauci said yesterday no scientific evidence on the Hydro one being helpful, not sure if any updates from trustworthy sources


also... "PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST"... quite a change in message there
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 21 12:25:43
Pence:
"as the president says..." (then nothing he ever says)
"the president's leadership"
"the president's plan"
"the president's corona virus guidelines"


hey ass-sucker, it's -CHINESE- virus
Rugian
Member
Sat Mar 21 13:10:48
Note how TW is actively praying for a potential cure for the Chinese virus to fail. He literally prioritizes his hatred of the President over our people and our economy. Sick.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Mar 21 13:45:38
That whole tweet about chloroquine isn't really a problem. Initial, anecdotal tests have shown good results. The larger scientific (double blind, random, etc.) studies are underway.

What they need to be doing is scaling up production now (no idea if they are or aren't) so that if it proves to be useful, there is already a good supply.
Daemon
Member
Sat Mar 21 13:54:30
If you call it the Chinese virus then I demand that you call chloroquine the German cure, it was developed in 1934 at Bayer in Germany.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Mar 21 13:58:18
Well, it wouldn't be a cure.
Rugian
Member
Sat Mar 21 14:19:00
I'm just now catching up on TW's garbage. So now he seems to actively be siding with a) the *actually* evil totalitarian regime that is the PRC, and b) sensationalist reporters who are trying to create the maximum amount of public panic they can in order to drive ratings.

TW, you're honestly not fit to cover politics.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 21 16:32:00
a) you think Trump is fit for office, thus you are unfit to cover politics
b) there is no fitness requirement to cover politics

also, i'm not siding w/ China ever... if referring to me finding 'Chinese virus' a stupid name to be calling this virus, it's because it's a stupid name to be calling this virus (also, he acknowledges it's just to piss them off... so petty childish behavior, as is his norm)

even pathetic Pence isn't willing to do it
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 21 18:34:08
Trump supporter plunders paper products (<- good phrase to spread the virus)
http://twi...hen/status/1241485175915048961
CrownRoyal
Member
Sun Mar 22 00:41:15
Nigerian falls victim to American scammer, for a change

———-

“ Nigeria reported two cases of chloroquine poisoning after U.S. President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Health officials are warning Nigerians against self-medicating after demand for the drug surged in Lagos, a city that’s home to 20 million people. Two people were hospitalized in Lagos for chloroquine overdoses, Oreoluwa Finnih, senior health assistant to the governor of Lagos, said in an interview.”
Cont

http://www...nings-after-trump-praised-drug
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 22 02:02:31
eggcellent
http://lh3...cvLVdoIyquImXkeHzB8vYrv9cegq0g

...unless just a scam to try to sue him
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 22 12:16:53
it seems Trump lied about his use of the Defense Production Act... he claimed to have directed companies to make products, but nope, none whatsoever

it was kinda obvious by his various vague answers, but for the stupid people: yes, he was lying... yet again

he likes to proudly proclaim invoking it as it's rare so he feels special... but he's not doing anything with it... so whatever

http://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1241717028731453441

--------

transcript about invoking the DPA:

Q This is important. You haven’t actually directed any companies to start making more ventilators or masks, right?

THE PRESIDENT: I have. I have. Yes. I have.

Q How many companies?

THE PRESIDENT: A lot. A lot.

Q So you are requiring them.

THE PRESIDENT: And they’re making a lot of ventilators and they’re making a lot of masks.

Go ahead, please.

Q Which ones? What companies?

THE PRESIDENT: Go ahead. Please.

<never answered>
Daemon
Member
Sun Mar 22 15:15:12
http://www...unproven-coronavirus-treatment

Trump’s push to use hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 has triggered a run on the drug. Healthy people are stocking up just in case they come down with the disease. That has left lupus patients like Valdez and those with rheumatoid arthritis suddenly confronting a lack of medication that safeguards them, and not only from the effects of those conditions.
[...]
patom
Member
Sun Mar 22 17:13:18
I believe they are prescription drugs here. Only a Dr. can prescribe them.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 22 17:33:06
so now we will have a werewolf problem (always what i think of when i hear of 'lupus')
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 22 18:45:18
Trump: "Romney's in isolation? Gee, that's too bad."

petty
jergul
large member
Sun Mar 22 19:20:49
I do no understand the critism.

President Cuomo is forthright and in as much control as the circumstances allow..
TJ
Member
Sun Mar 22 19:29:59
"President Cuomo"

I laughed.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 22 20:22:23
Cuomo does the presidential briefing
Trump does the reality TV show briefing
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 22 23:26:52
"
I watch and listen to the Fake News, CNN, MSDNC, ABC, NBC, CBS, some of FOX (desperately & foolishly pleading to be politically correct), the @nytimes
, & the @washingtonpost, and all I see is hatred of me at any cost. Don’t they understand that they are destroying themselves?
"
~batshit crazy person
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Mar 22 23:29:27
"
WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF. AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!
"
~guy who will be disappointed at the end of the 15=day period

(yet declaring it a tremendous success)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 23 00:54:17
Dr. Fauci interview

...

Q: You have not said China virus.

A: Ever.

Q. And you never will, will you?

A: No.

----------

on Trump being an idiot liar:

A: I know, but what do you want me to do? I mean, seriously Jon, let’s get real, what do you want me to do?


full thing:
http://www...te-house-listen-facts-pandemic
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 23 11:46:57
some easy to believe tweets from the enemy of the people:


"Mr. Trump has become frustrated with Dr. Fauci’s blunt approach at the briefing lectern, which often contradicts things the president has just said, according to two people familiar with the dynamic."

"Aides say Trump is itching for the guidelines to be eased at the end of the 15-day period. ...Medical advisers continue to tell him the country has a way to go before emerging from the worst of the outbreak."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Mar 23 11:51:58
Gabriel Sherman of Vanity Fair said of the situation:

“My sources who are in touch with the White House, several people told me that one of the things driving [Trump’s task force press conference apperances] is that the president has been furious and frustrated at New York Governor Andrew Cuomo who has been holding these very widely well-received early morning press conferences and, in the president’s view, has sort of hijacked the news cycle.”

“So now you see Trump, you know, taking the stage after Cuomo trying to take back the mantle and unfortunately he’s doing that with misinformation,” he continued. “So we’re in a situation where the president’s narcissism and his need to be at the center of every story, even though the story is not about Donald Trump, this story is about a global pandemic, is what is driving the White House’s communication strategy.”


again... easy to believe
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