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sam adams
Member
Wed Mar 11 22:06:31
http://youtu.be/uo7HB-slsm4

Rofl watch this now!
sam adams
Member
Wed Mar 11 22:07:56
Tom hanks at 63, healthy enough to be in that new destroyer movie(that looks sweet btw) and with the best healthcare money can buy stands what, id estimate a 1% chance of death?

Maybe less?
Dukhat
Member
Wed Mar 11 22:14:35
The virus doesn't care about how rich you are or what your politics are.

If Tom get's sick, he'll need oxygen, medication, and probably a ventilator. He might need more intensive management if he develops lung scarring.

These are tools even third-world hospitals have. It's the same as treating a very bad case of the flu or any other viral pneumonia.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Mar 11 22:14:47
possibly* a ventilator
obaminated
Member
Wed Mar 11 22:21:08
pillz, you ignorant bitch, i am talking about specifically someone who is at his age and has diabetes, i imagine the death rate is higher for him then myself who is an athletic 31 year old.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Mar 11 22:26:22
https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2020/03/Coronavirus-CFR-by-age-in-China-1-800x526.png

https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2020/03/Coronavirus-CFR-by-health-condition-in-China.png

You should wear a face mask when you interact with anyone especially crowds or people with the highest risk:

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/

This is not a political issue when it affects you and your families.

Stay safe, slow the spread to help all the healthcare workers who will be swamped in the coming weeks.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Mar 11 22:34:09
http://our...-by-age-in-China-1-800x526.png

http://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2020/03/Coronavirus-CFR-by-health-condition-in-China.png

http://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/
jergul
large member
Wed Mar 11 23:50:13
The rest of world new cases is now higher than any single given day in China save the one were symptombased criteria were used instead of tests in reporting the number of cases.

7.5k might seem like a lot today. But give it 5 days. Then 15k day will seem like a lot and 7.5 not so much.
sam adams
Member
Wed Mar 11 23:51:30
Italian top doctors(for whatever that is worth) are recommending the country stop treating very old people, and saving the countries sparse medical supplies for younger patients who are more important.
sam adams
Member
Wed Mar 11 23:52:23
Geometric growth is a sonofabitch aint it.
pillz
Member
Thu Mar 12 01:16:16
I wonder if cuckhat is posting so much about this because its affecting his wife's love life?

Maybe her boyfriends dont want to be around him and catch chinese coronaids
jergul
large member
Thu Mar 12 01:29:15
Sammy
Its not medical supplies. Its assisted breathing slots. The reason capacity cannot be surged is lack of personnel.

New Puplic Management. No redundant capacity. No surge capacity. Health care was better able to surge to meet the demands of the Spanish Flu.

We are lucky morbidity this time does not compare.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Mar 12 01:53:33
Pillz a lot like trump. His tiny brain always falls back on the same explanations.
Paramount
Member
Thu Mar 12 01:56:41
” Italian top doctors(for whatever that is worth) are recommending the country stop treating very old people, ”

Very old people? Like people over 50?
jergul
large member
Thu Mar 12 02:16:18
People over 29. Why not go full Logan's run?
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Mar 12 04:05:55
Someone in our building started coughing and has fever, he is getting tested.

DAM YOU SCIENCE BUILDING WITH YOUR MANY INTERNATIONAL TRIPS AND NETWORKS!
sam adams
Member
Thu Mar 12 06:14:37
"DAM YOU SCIENCE BUILDING WITH YOUR MANY INTERNATIONAL TRIPS AND NETWORKS!"

Yup.
Allahuakbar
Member
Thu Mar 12 06:45:58
A cure has been found, although I know that you infidels will not use it.
(btw. this would also have cured Aeros, but he is no longer among us?)

http://www...s-for-coronavirus-in-iran.html

Amid anxieties in Iran over the coronavirus outbreak and a flurry of precautions to prevent its spread, a controversial ayatollah has declared a new method to “cure” the virus: applying violet oil to the anus.

Abbas Tabrizian, described by his supporters as “the father of Islamic medicine of Iran,” began focusing on “Islamic medicine” when his wife was diagnosed with cancer. Although doctors had given up hope on her, Tabrizian said he was able to cure her after “a short treatment he devised,” according to a website affiliated with the cleric. The Najaf-born cleric studied at the prestigious seminary in the same city, the website said.

Even before his unorthodox prescription for COVID-19, the cleric was under fire from his counterparts and other religious figures, including Grand Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli and Grand Ayatollah Naser Makarem Shirazi, in the holy city of Qom, the heart of the Shiite sect. They refuted Tabrizian's claims regarding the superiority of "Islamic medicine," arguing there is no such thing.

In January, Tabrizian burned a copy of “Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine,” an American reference book. “This book was a tool for the West's infiltration of other countries,” Tabrizian explained in a Jan. 26 video. He said that Westerners had, throughout history, set fire to “The Canon of Medicine," by Iranian philosopher and physician Avicenna, but failed to specify when and where this had happened. Tabrizian also offered to hold classes for physicians to teach them Islamic medicine and his formulas.
jergul
large member
Thu Mar 12 07:40:51
All primary and secondary schools have been closed in Norway.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Mar 12 08:45:15
this is a russian plot to get trump..
now that he's longer useful.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Mar 12 09:02:00
Trump will always be useful because everything he does weakens America.
jergul
large member
Thu Mar 12 09:29:42
US does not have a system in place to test like foreign countries, lawmakers told

From CNN's Manu Raju

Several members emerged from a House briefing on the coronavirus pandemic saying that they were told that tests would increase — but that the briefers acknowledged that the US system is trying to catch up to other countries like South Korea.

“I don’t think anyone is going to leave that briefing satisfied with what’s going on with testing right now," Democrat Rep. Mike Quigley said. "Bottom line, you leave that briefing and we are not where we need to be and not sure when we are going to get there. We are flying blind.”

He added: “I think the first thing they said was we don’t have a system that works like it does in other countries to adequately test at this time."

Rep. Jan Schawkowsky said that they were told 7,300 tests have been conducted by the public sector and 3,800 tests by private labs.

“I think everyone leaving that briefing is feeling more confused than ever and disappointed in the numbers that we heard — that we really don’t have a system that tests are being distributed and tests are being given,” Schakowsky said

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God.
jergul
large member
Thu Mar 12 09:31:16
For comparison. South Korea has done more than 200 000 tests.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Thu Mar 12 09:37:09
What does it matter? Trump has told us that it's just a hoax and will go away on its own. It's fine.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Thu Mar 12 10:56:27
http://med...r-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Mar 12 11:00:22

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I cannot make sense of this. Is he deliberately crashing the American economy and dividing us from Europe? If so, is this Putin's work, yet again? A final gift as Trump loses control of the country?


6:59 PM - 11 Mar 2020
sam adams
Member
Thu Mar 12 11:04:29
In order to curtail their buttsex, which increases the risk of coronavirus, MLS and NBA will stop playing games.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Mar 12 11:18:08
Brazilian Official Who Took Photo With Trump, Dined At Mar-a-Lago, Tests Positive For The Coronavirus

http://www...ago-tests-positive-coronavirus
Average Ameriacn
Member
Thu Mar 12 11:25:34
Doesn't matter, Trump is the healthiest President ever, he should be immune.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Mar 12 11:33:41
Stonks collapsing.

Game Over Trump.

Too bad it had to come from hundreds of millions of Americans losing their savings and tens of thousands that will die needlessly because of Trump incompetence.
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Thu Mar 12 11:37:35
Justin Trudeau & Wife Self-Quarantine After She Developed 'Virus-Liked Symptoms' Following Trip Abroad: Virus Updates

http://www...utbreak-death-toll-passes-4500
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Mar 12 11:39:03
Boy, for someone who tied himself completely to the stockmarket, Donald really fucked it up with this speech. One thing markets see clearly is bullshit, this was a prime example, he couldn't even get his facts straight, they had to walk back things after he was finished
Daemon
Member
Thu Mar 12 12:00:51
Switzerland will explode: they're closing the brothels! (automatically translated)

http://www...bleibt-zuhause-id15792258.html

Ticino declares a state of emergency
The number of infected and especially corona patients is increasing faster than feared.
[...]
Furthermore, all cinemas, theatres, brothels, fitness centres and ski facilities must close. Restaurants and hotels may not serve more than 50 guests. For restaurants and shops, distance between customers and guests must be maintained. Events with more than 50 people are also prohibited. Group sports are also prohibited. Individual sports are still permitted.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Paramount
Member
Thu Mar 12 12:15:02
”Several members emerged from a House briefing on the coronavirus pandemic saying that they were told that tests would increase — but that the briefers acknowledged that the US system is trying to catch up to other countries like South Korea. ”


I told you. The US is (already) looking like a 3rd world country.
Paramount
Member
Thu Mar 12 12:19:46
Coronavirus response hurt by lack of funding for public health labs, CDC director tells Congress

Lack of funding has hampered the federal government’s response to the coronavirus outbreak, the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told lawmakers Tuesday.

The hearing in the House was originally intended to address concerns about the CDC’s 2021 budget. But lawmakers’ questions for Director Robert Redfield focused more specifically on the outbreak, particularly regarding the slow rollout of tests across the country.

“The truth is we’ve underinvested in the public health labs,” Redfield told them

The tests were initially marred by quality control issues, delaying testing for Americans who were or thought they were infected and prompting some states such as New York to seek emergency approval to use their own test kits.

Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler, R-Wash., was among the lawmakers who questioned Redfield on this point. She noted that her congressional colleagues were able to quickly obtain tests and results, while some of her constituents in Washington, one of the states hardest hit by coronavirus, were still waiting.

“I find it interesting that when my colleagues,” she said, “were able to get tested almost immediately and quickly receive their results while folks in my district and across Washington state are unable to get their testing results back.”

Already, 23 have died in Washington, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. At least 19 of those deaths can be linked to the Life Care residential home in Kirkland, according to local official tallies.

Redfield blamed the lack of adequate funding and resources. “There’s not enough equipment, there’s not enough people, there’s not enough internal capacity, there’s no search capacity,” he said.

During the hearing Redfield was also pressed on the CDC’s failure to update its website with the number of people being tested every day.

“Why are we only updating the CDC website now three days a week?” asked Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wis. “World Health Organization does it daily. This is information people really want to know.”

http://www...funding-cdc-director-says.html
Wrath of Orion
Member
Thu Mar 12 13:33:00
And here comes the upswing in university closings (which is appropriate).
Daemon
Member
Thu Mar 12 13:36:16
You can sort the table on this side for cases per 1M population. Suddenly many countries look worse than Germany:
http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Maybe that's why Norway is locking down (jergul I want a live report!):
http://www.lifeinnorway.net/norway-is-closed-coronavirus/

Millions of Norwegians and foreigners living in or visiting Norway will be impacted by a drastic set of measures announced by Erna Solberg today. Norway is essentially shutting itself down for two weeks, in a bid to stop the rapid spread of the coronavirus and COVID-19 disease.

More than 700 people have been infected in Norway, a number that has drastically increased in the last 48 hours. Although at the time of writing no-one has yet died in Norway from the disease, the country's leaders say this is inevitable.

Read more: Coronavirus in Norway

All schools, kindergartens and universities are to close. Most public events are banned. Bars and restaurants will be closed. Most relevant to readers of Life in Norway is perhaps the most dramatic measure of all. Anyone who has traveled outside the Nordic countries since 27 February should be home quarantined for 14 days.
[...]
jergul
large member
Thu Mar 12 15:23:18
What can I say? Half the country was on skiing vacations in Northern Italy.

So we are shutting down. Its easier here. The system for wage compensation is in place.
sam adams
Member
Thu Mar 12 16:14:00
Seattle is shutting down. No quarantine yet at least. March madness and all sports leagues in the US are done.
Habebe
Member
Thu Mar 12 16:29:35
Haha, so this player fornthe Utah jazz jokingly was molesting all the microphones and such because he thought the hype was crazy....now he has tested positive for it.

http://www...us-utah-jazz/%3foutputType=amp
Pillz
Member
Thu Mar 12 20:17:28
Montreal has banned all events of over 250 people. Also largest school board announced it'd be close tomorrow in preparation for next week.

Which probably means schools will be closed next week.

Grocery stores on the island have been rocked. Areas with the most immigrants have been rocked the hardest: theyre not used to being able to stockpile I guess, or used to the lack of scarcity.

But we've sold like stupid amounts of paper (Kleenex, toilet paper, etc). Just stupid amounts. Entire aisle has been emptied two days in a row.

Supposedly Health Canada has also taken measures to stockpile supplies by freezing supply chains.
Habebe
Member
Thu Mar 12 21:31:38
Trudeau's wife has it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Mar 12 21:35:23
CNN doing a global town hall with Dr Fauci answering questions at the moment... more helpful than anything Trump ever done (obviously) plus any other briefings from this administration combined
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 00:47:33
Hope Jergul is doing alright. I seen that Norway just about closed the whole country as a pre emptive kind of thing.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 13 00:54:54
UK is using an unusual strategy. They're focused entirely on mitigation now. Basically let it slowly infect the population so that its manageable in terms of peak cases and also build up immunity in the population.

Reading the scientific literature on it is interesting. So basically instead of always quarantining yourself for 14 days when you travel somewhere, you just live life normal and if you have symptoms go home for 7 days and then come back. Those 7 days when you have symptoms you are most contagious so they want to just bend the curve as much they can so its manageable while building up immunity in the population so they can return life to normal.

Interesting. We'll see how that works in Britain and for China since CHina did the opposite and did massive containment and will probably face another outbreak from foreign visitors in a few weeks.
smart dude
Member
Fri Mar 13 02:20:07
Over 60,000 Americans died in 2001 as a result of the flu/pneumonia. Meanwhile the 9/11 attacks only killed 3,000. Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Islamic terrorism is not a problem that requires radical changes in policy, said no Republican ever.
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 13 02:50:43
habebe
We test.
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 13 03:06:57
We have 1 positive case per 100 tests. The US has 22.
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 13 03:10:08
One way you can measure this is in the number of high profile people with special access to testing.

In Norway we have 0 such cases. In the US, many. People with influence are strongly overrepresented as confirmed corona infected.

Average Ameriacn
Member
Fri Mar 13 03:17:11
We should CLOSE our borders for Brits at once:

80% infected soon!
500000 dead soon!

And only because UK has not banned Chinese Huawei on its soil.

http://www...elay-phase-of-coronavirus-plan

Britain moved from the “contain” phase of the crisis to the “delay” phase on Thursday, when the death toll for UK citizens was at 12, two of them having died overseas, and the official number of infected people reached 590.


However, speaking after Thursday’s emergency Cobra meeting, the government’s chief scientific officer, Sir Patrick Vallance, said the true total was likely to be between 5,000 and 10,000. He said 20 people were being treated for Covid-19 in intensive care units and that the UK was on a trajectory about four weeks behind that of Italy, which has had more than 1,000 deaths.


Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer, said that worst-case scenario planning projected that 80% of the country would contract the virus, with a 1% mortality rate. This equates to more than 500,000 deaths.

Dukhat
Member
Fri Mar 13 11:24:29
We left our borders open to the only European country that said, "Fuck it, let everyone get infected."

I mean ... have you guys had enough winning yet?
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 11:28:10
Jergul, I wasn't attacking, genuine concern.

Trumps hasn't done enough, that I agree with.However No western nation has. Norway seems to have been doing better than the EU/US.

But its early on , it could dbe in 2 months that the stock market is back up and the virus is gone, or we could be a collapsed nation to early to tell, break out some universes.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 11:48:38
Fucking christ, the nation is not going to collapse in two months. But this also isn't going to be gone in two months.

The best methodology now is to mitigate to dampen the infection curve to prevent the health care system from becoming totally swamped (which drastically increases mortality rates).

Widespread testing needed to happen a couple weeks ago, but we still need it now and in the future. People need to to have changed their daily routines a couple weeks ago, but we still need it now and in the future.

This will not "go away" until a vaccine is developed - 1 to 1.5 years probably. Once the infection curve is dampened and people get used to this, things will normalize. But we're not there yet, not even close - it has been completely bungled.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 11:50:28
As time goes on, more people will gain immunity and we'll start seeing hotspots pop up again instead of exponential growth (which is what is going on now and will be for a while). We still need to be mitigating at that point, but THEN localized containment once again becomes possible and feasible.

This isn't fucking rocket science, but you wouldn't know that by looking at our government, lol.
hood
Member
Fri Mar 13 11:51:57
And really, this should have been happening in early February, not only 2 weeks ago.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 11:55:29
Yes hood, that's true, but honestly not realistic. This country really has no idea how to deal with a true pandemic, and it is very resistant to learning.

The only realistic chance for this to start up was 2-3 weeks ago with a competent government. But even then, culture and ignorance in the US is such that even a competent government probably wouldn't have been enough unless lockdowns were imposed. And that just doesn't fly here.

So really, it's not just the government's fault, but also the general culture and system in the US. I'd like to hope people will learn after this, but I really doubt it.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 11:57:45
Other countries do have some of these issues, too, but they will also have an easier time dampening the infection curve. They also don't have the resources that the US should have been able to bring to focus against this. Hence the deserved criticism for the US over other countries.
jergul
large member
Fri Mar 13 11:59:03
Habebe
I realized. I was not being defensive. Its just that we do test.

I am not in a dangerous age bracket and have the resiliance of a concret elephant.

The greatest threat to my life, health and sanity is having two teenaged daughters out of school and more or less constrained to home.

Thankfully, we also have....kittens!
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Mar 13 12:03:13
Corona is rehearsal for the plague that we know will come. And boy what a massive shit show! The end of humanity will come in the form of politicized pandemic shit show. But hey, this is still just rehearsal, there is still time to prepare.
Paramount
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:04:26
Europe has now become the epicenter of the #COVID19 pandemic, with more reported cases and deaths than the rest of the world combined, apart from #China.

More cases are now being reported every day than were reported in China at the height of its epidemic"-@DrTedros #coronavirus

http://twitter.com/who/status/1238494220807213057?s=21
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:05:07
The memes that are coming out of this are priceless, though.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Mar 13 12:07:55
The end of humanity is not a good reason to not have fun.
Paramount
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:09:08
How the USA deals with the Corona virus:

http://twi...tatus/1238343538619961345?s=21


Creepy.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:09:58
Keeping yourself in good humor has a number of positive outcomes.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:11:29
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU...to send me a donation so you don't get sars-cov-2!
CrownRoyal
Member
Fri Mar 13 12:25:10
http://twi...tatus/1238317660871393280?s=19

Chinese philanthropist steps up to help failing Donald's america
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 13:10:17
Jergul, I have a kitten, mynbrother in law found her near work in the woods. Ive raised her since shortly after she opened her eyes.As for the teenage daughters...good luck.
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 13:32:06
Btw, Ive named her Feet after the dark crystal agenof resistance.
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 13:53:38
Deet not feet. Autocorrect.
Pillz
Member
Fri Mar 13 14:49:30
Europe will get it under control though.

Canada seems like it'll beat the pandemic. We're already shutting everything down in Montreal.
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 15:00:29
It looks bad though that justins wife got It. I mean could you imagine if Melanie caught it? News fire storm.

As for the rest, we will see.
hood
Member
Fri Mar 13 15:01:59
The world will burn when Trump is hospitalized with covid.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Mar 13 15:30:47
An Australian politician has tested positive for coronavirus, just days after meeting with Ivanka Trump and Attorney General William Barr in Washington.


when will we realize it's coming from the devil-owned Trump family
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 16:14:52
You've mentioned a possible deal between Trump and Satan before.

Perhaps thisnis why he has no fear odnthe virus.
Paramount
Member
Fri Mar 13 16:22:00
They are probably covering it up that Ivanka has Corona.

And if Ivanka has it, then Donald probably has it too.
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 16:24:48
So a NY based company ( Oyagen) supposedly has a pill that will stop Covid19 from spreading, it will NOT cure it but it will stop the spread.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 17:21:49
It's a compound that was previously investigated to treat cancer, but was abandoned because it wasn't effective. They have found antiviral activity with it in cell cultures.
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 17:25:16
So far what I gather it has been studied by a third party lab with the results being duplicated, they are hoping to stream line the drug.

At least that's what I got from a local news report. This would be cool if it's true and works.
Habebe
Member
Fri Mar 13 17:25:17
So far what I gather it has been studied by a third party lab with the results being duplicated, they are hoping to stream line the drug.

At least that's what I got from a local news report. This would be cool if it's true and works.
The Children
Member
Fri Mar 13 18:01:10
"The memes that are coming out of this are priceless, though. "

>> post memes or they dont exist
The Children
Member
Fri Mar 13 18:03:42
China has come.

The great savior of the world stands ready 2 help all those in need of help.

it is said 1 factory produces a mill face mask per day soon.

soon facemasks will be send all over the world.

ONLY THE POWER OF CHINA.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Mar 13 18:05:11
Considering this originated in China, it seems only fair that they distribute those masks for free.
The Children
Member
Fri Mar 13 18:11:36
and swine flu came from the uassofa.
when are u gonna take responsibility for that shit.

owned and kapowned!
The Children
Member
Fri Mar 13 18:18:33
get on ur knees with ur hats in ur hand...go on, the goodies are urs if u kowtow.
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 14 06:57:51
I do not see how the US can control this. 10s of millions underinsured, 10s of millions underinsured, and 10s of millions without the benefit of paid sick leave.

Containment asks too much of these individuals for very little personal benefit (the individual risk for people without access to medicare is actually quite low).
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 14 06:58:07
uninsured*
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Mar 14 08:36:09
Update of Corona map (zoomed in on the U.S):
http://i.imgur.com/lQbG7kj.png
..The dots on the U.S. have really multiplied — every state now, and, of course, this only includes dots around testing centers, so it's probably worse.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Mar 14 08:36:47
And this guy on CNBC really hyped up the fear:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE0uI6StR2Y
..talking about how people should be stocked for 3 months.. prepare your grocery stores ;)
patom
Member
Sat Mar 14 09:42:56
This from Trumps speech fact checked:

(CNN)During his press conference Friday declaring a national emergency to address the coronavirus and release $50 billion in federal funding, President Donald Trump criticized President Barack Obama's administration for its handling of the swine flu (H1N1 virus) in 2009.

"If you go back to the swine flu, it was nothing like this," Trump said. "They didn't do testing like this. And actually they lost approximately 14,000 people and they didn't do the testing. They started thinking about testing when it was far too late."
Facts First: Trump is wrong. The CDC did focus on testing -- conducting 5,000 tests in the first month and sending out a total of 1 million tests in the first five months of the outbreak.
The CDC's summary report of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic outlines how tests were administered at the time. The virus was first detected in the US on April 15. The CDC informed the World Health Organization about initial cases April 18. A test to detect this strain of swine flu was developed by the CDC and cleared for use 10 days later, on April 28, and the CDC began shipping tests across the US and around the world on May 1.
Within the next four months, more than 1 million tests "were shipped to 120 domestic and 250 international laboratories in 140 countries," according to the CDC's report.
By May 18, 40 states were authorized to conduct their own 2009 H1N1 testing, with eight states having multiple laboratories that could process the tests, the report says.
Between April 12, 2009 and April 10, 2010, the CDC estimates that the swine flu killed 12,469 people in the US.
The first case of coronavirus was confirmed in the US on January 20 of this year. As of Wednesday, almost two months later, 11,079 specimens had been tested in the US.
Habebe
Member
Sat Mar 14 10:07:22
It was like 48 billion, Trump lied, all of his supporters will promptly vote for Joe Biden, he never lies he just has Alzheimer's so when hebsays something wrong its notnhis fault like Trump.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 14 10:45:03
Three months sounds about right.

We aren't nowhere near testing enough people which is necessary to start containing this. It'll take about 2 weeks for testing to ramp up and then 2 weeks more for it to make a dent in the numbers and slow the thing.

The hospitalizations and deaths follow about 3-4 weeks after diagnosis so that's a timeline of about 2 months at best when we finally start getting a handle on this, maybe 3 months if they fucking bungle it up some more.

Markets will start to calm down when the growth in new cases slows and stabilizes. And it will bottom out when the growth in deaths stabilizes and decreases the month afterwards.

So we're looking at maybe mid-June when this thing is no longer scary-looking.

I hope to god that it's not that bad though and that hot weather slows this thing down.

We should be going to China or Germany hat-in-hand for them to send us as many ventilators as they can. It's going to get bad.
Dukhat
Member
Sat Mar 14 10:46:36
I think Republicans are going to want to impeach Trump right away if he fails to meet even this timeline. He'll be such a fucking liability and the country will be so desperate that they'll cut their losses.

And knowing Trump, he's fucking stupid enough to mess it up even more.
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 14 11:46:01
"I think Republicans are going to want to impeach Trump right away if he fails to meet even this timeline. He'll be such a fucking liability and the country will be so desperate that they'll cut their losses."

No way for that to play out. If that is the sentiment, then political distancing will be the motto of the day for the elections.
patom
Member
Sat Mar 14 12:23:49
Google says it was blind sided by Trumps claim that Google was setting up a National response system for testing. They are working on something that will only be available in the San Francisco Bay area.

Mexico will pay for the wall.
Google has this under control.
The check is in the Mail.
I'll love you in the morning.
I won't come in your mouth.
Daemon
Member
Sat Mar 14 12:33:29
Switzerland really hit hard when even the police shuts down(translated)

http://www...eltig-vom-tisch/story/27873684

The Canton of Ticino closes all restaurants, bars and shops from Saturday midnight. Food shops and pharmacies are excluded. This was announced by the Ticino State Council in Bellinzona.
[...]
The Lucerne police will close a number of smaller police stations from Monday to protect their officers from the coronavirus. This is to reduce direct contact with customers and the risk of infection. Lucerne is the first corps in the country to announce such a measure.

A total of 23 posts will be temporarily closed, the Lucerne police announced on Saturday. Affected are, for example, the post at Lucerne railway station as well as several posts in the agglomeration and in the countryside. In contrast, nine other main posts will remain open. The online police stations will be available to the population around the clock for smaller reports.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sat Mar 14 14:11:58
Swiss government first to collapse in this round of Plague Inc.
Habebe
Member
Sat Mar 14 14:27:56
Nim, Should we start taking bets?

Plague (phone game) isnomenofnthe biggest downloads ATM. Kinda fun but it gets boring quick.
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 14 14:31:57
Norway has reached its testing limits and has started rationing who gets tested.

I strongly suggest everyone do like China. Allow for clinical diagnosis to confirm infection. This clears backlogs.

Then test.

Repeat if necessary.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Mar 14 14:50:08
"
FRANCE NOW AT EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restaurants, cafés, non-essential services closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN FRENCH ICUs ARE PEOPLE UNDER 60; France now has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said Jérôme Salomon, head of French health service.
"
http://twitter.com/RachelDonadio/status/1238913213250572288


as to the semen-swallowing (& false Google website claim by Trump) patom mentioned:

"If such misleading information were put out by private individuals instead of the White House, it might be called market manipulation or securities fraud."
~ George Conway
jergul
large member
Sat Mar 14 14:59:55
"ISIS issues a travel warning to its fighters to avoid #coronavirus-hit countries, according to an analyst on the Syrian civil war."

Al Arabya.

Mkay. Its best to be safe.
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