Utopia Talk / Politics / Venezuela

Habebe Member	Sun Mar 29 02:03:24 So the is has charged Mauro as a criminal, similar to Noriega (sp) Russia gets out pf the oil trade in V. Its an election year, Trump would love to tout regime change in V. I mean this isn't even nasty regime change, nobody really wants him in there.
McKobb Member	Sun Mar 29 02:06:49 Just dont fuck with my hallacas.
Habebe Member	Sun Mar 29 03:10:06 The is= the US*
Dakyron Member	Sun Mar 29 18:51:33 Maduro, not Mauro. Anyway, strange timing. If not for Corona we could have possibly seen a Venezuela invasion.
Habebe Member	Sun Mar 29 18:54:15 Typo.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Mar 30 06:22:37 Dakyron When Corona goes away and the economy is in shambles a war is great to jump start everything.
Pillz Member	Mon Mar 30 06:42:12 Invading Venezuela hardly seems like itd count. Iran, however..
Habebe Member	Mon Mar 30 09:18:24 Venezuela gives the US a a lot more sway in SA, already doing well Brazil and Chile...good trends. Plus why invade? We already have a legit leader ready to step up and the world backs him. Iran is next.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Mar 30 10:25:36 Iran is too much work.
Habebe Member	Mon Mar 30 10:32:34 Iran is on path to self implode already.Covid was the final straw. Or I'm wrong.
jergul large member	Tue Mar 31 05:43:31 Or you could go with the dissolution of your own Union. A lot of stress fractures are relieved if you simply let States chose their own paths.
jergul large member	Tue Mar 31 05:44:16 I am a staunch believer in full state rights.
Habebe Member	Tue Mar 31 11:01:28 Your a puppy eating Soviet.We get it, you hate the US.
jergul large member	Tue Mar 31 17:33:24 Why would you even say that? I love the US so much that I want there to be many more of it. So many of your worries would go away with the implementation of full state rights. The Deep State can only flourish from its cluster infestation within the Federal government. Correct me if you think that is wrong. The only disadvantage I see is there would be many fewer cases of people leaving all options on the table or invasions to force regime change. What will we watch on tv?
jergul large member	Tue Mar 31 17:36:45 I am pretty sure Texas and California would be tied for the strongest military on the planet. Two first places and none in 2nd. That is even more dominating that the US in first place and China in 2nd.
jergul large member	Tue Mar 31 17:45:05 Anyway, I think threads that idly speculate on what countries the US should invade next is the perfect place to idly speculate on when and how the federal union should be dissolved. Maybe soon. It would be a good way for the President to side-step an election loss. President Trump of Florida does have a fitting ring to it.
LazyCommunist Member	Tue Mar 31 17:46:58 You will invade no one http://www...raft-carrier-with-15167883.php Exclusive: Captain of aircraft carrier with growing coronavirus outbreak pleads for help from Navy The captain of a nuclear aircraft carrier with more than 100 sailors infected with the coronavirus pleaded Monday with U.S. Navy officials for resources to allow isolation of his entire crew and avoid possible deaths in a situation he described as quickly deteriorating.
Habebe Member	Tue Mar 31 19:34:23 We could just invade and plunder Norway. I mean its small enough that no one would really care, they are rather wealthy, enough to cover the costs of a 2nd wave of checks. This is how National Socialism worked, they paid for the social plans by plundering. It may be frowned upon, but it works.
Habebe Member	Tue Mar 31 19:38:19 I mean, think about it, Russia took Crimea and what did Europe do? Nothing, because they have no army, the men are busy cooking doing while the wives play soccer...who would stop us?
jergul large member	Tue Mar 31 19:55:42 All these grandoise visions. Saddam also thought he could just nab an oil rich country. The said country hired PR people and look at how that played out. Your failure of imagination is stunning. What problem would not go away if the federal government was simply dissolved with the flourish of felt pens? No more debt, no more federal taxes. No federal judges telling you what you can do in your state. Gone!
Habebe Member	Tue Mar 31 20:29:11 We just need Trump to go full on Caesar. Cross the Rubican, rename April to Trump, storm the house of representatives with platoon of space soldiers. Why did Saddam fail? Because he battled with the US, Norway would even easier, do you even have a real military?
jergul large member	Tue Mar 31 23:48:52 Habebe lol, boots on the ground? Norway is like Afghanistan geographically. Except a lot worse. I can literally see the whole airport including the military aircraft creches from my living room window. And by see, I mean looking right into them. An ATGM could have a field day from *anywhere* We have a coscript military for a reason. Everyone and their dog has done military service.
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 01 00:10:46 So no real military, lisntheen are busy cooking dinner and knitting while the women play soccer andfinger bang each other... Plundering and rebuilding a nation are different.
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 01 00:12:31 "We have a coscript military for a reason. Everyone and their dog has done military service." So you have an army of slaves and livestock....im so scared.
jergul large member	Wed Apr 01 00:22:37 Same type of army that won wwii. There is no way to isolate people with military grade weapon familiarity. Anyone could be the peeps shooting ATGMs at your transport aircraft as the do their landing approaches. You have been deterred! But just thinking the thought helps explain why you should dissolve your union. Its bad to want to invade countries, mkay?
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 01 00:30:42 "Same type of army that won wwii" Oh you mean the war where Norway was conquered? "Its bad to want to invade countries, mkay?" Think of it as a robbery, plunder if you will.
jergul large member	Wed Apr 01 00:47:11 Or we could just think of you as batshit crazy and best confined within a single State. It truly is a failure of imagination. I suggest how great things will be with full state rights. You freak out and want to invade yet another country. Is it the shrooms, is it the weed, or is it just you?
jergul large member	Wed Apr 01 00:49:31 Careful now, I would not want to up my recommendation to you best confined withint a single State institution.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Apr 01 02:57:52 Jergul "Is it the shrooms, is it the weed, or is it just you?" There is no way you get like this on shrooms or weed, quite the contrary effect. No, this is meth and oxycontin combination.
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 01 03:23:42 Nimatzo, I would never do oxycontin.
Daemon Member	Wed Apr 01 03:29:58 "We just need Trump to go full on" Retard Trump as a dictator? You really don't want that.
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 01 03:41:04 Daemon, No, but the thought is amusing and would likley lead to imperialism.
jergul large member	Wed Apr 01 07:20:08 You better hurry with that invasion plan. One of your carriers has been mission killed. You have two that are mission capable right now.
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 01 07:28:57 Its Norway, they could barley stop one guy with a gun.
jergul large member	Wed Apr 01 08:16:41 Sir Breivik sends his regards. He knows you need support in these troubling times.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Apr 01 12:41:37 Jergul I have been given new information, it’s only the meth.
Habebe Member	Sun Apr 05 16:19:28 http://amp...enezuela/article241709161.html Now, we're building up a military presence on the shores. Of Venezuela. Yup, Maduro is out.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 05 17:13:57 He will outlast Trump.
Habebe Member	Sun Apr 05 17:22:58 I'll take that bet.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Apr 05 17:36:52 If you lose, you must change your forum tag to ”Maduroed”. For Jergul, it’s Trumpicated.
jergul large member	Sun Apr 05 19:20:48 Nimi No. No upside for me. Besides, I am just mirroring bad behavior. My actual forecasts come in 10000 universe formats.
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