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obaminated
Member
Sun Mar 29 17:35:57
http://www...n-j-s-stay-home-order-n1171291

100% nig.
sam adams
Member
Sun Mar 29 17:58:47
Definetly nogs
Dukhat
Member
Sun Mar 29 19:47:56
Yeah, but if poor black people have a party, they only infect other poor black people inside a run-down ghetto.

It's not like any of you give a fuck about their lives.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/coronavirus-westport-connecticut-party-zero.html

Party Zero: How a Soirée in Connecticut Became a ‘Super Spreader’
About 50 people gathered this month for a party in the upscale suburb of Westport, then scattered across the region and the world, taking the coronavirus with them.

"The Westport soirée — Party Zero in southwestern Connecticut and beyond — is a story of how, in the Gilded Age of money, social connectedness and air travel, a pandemic has spread at lightning speed. The partygoers — more than half of whom are now infected — left that evening for Johannesburg, New York City and other parts of Connecticut and the United States, all seeding infections on the way."

But when rich, white people have a party, they infect half the fucking world.

Habebe
Member
Sun Mar 29 19:51:26
Guess the race


Ate a fucking bat and started a pandemic.
Rugian
Member
Sun Mar 29 19:59:32
I like how we're at the point where we're praising the police for cracking down on privaye parties of adult citizens that exceed an arbitrary state-sanctioned maximum person limit. Apparently rights of free association go straight out the window whenever we're faced with a virus that has killed a whopping 0.0006% of Americans to date.

We are all authoritarians now, I guess.
hood
Member
Sun Mar 29 20:07:27
"Apparently rights of free association go straight out the window whenever we're faced with a virus"

States have always had the right to enforce stricter, normally unconstitutional rules in cases like a plague or outbreak. This isn't new and it's been upheld on multiple occasions.
Habebe
Member
Sun Mar 29 20:20:49
Rugian, I'm all for freedom up until it interferes with another's, this meets that criteria.

Just as in war time we cede extra authority to the powers that be.

Death is about as unfree as it gets.
sam adams
Member
Sun Mar 29 21:12:03
"But when rich, white people have a party, they infect half the fucking world."

Thats our god given right bestowed on people who conquer entire planets.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Mar 30 01:11:03
Muh *coughs blood* freedom!
-Rugian
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Mon Mar 30 02:50:49
Perhaps, and bear with me, there are limits to individual freedom and responsibility. There are forces we have to deal with, that carry consequences beyond our ability to scale. Things that can only be dealt with at a system level, lest it wipes the system clean.

This isn’t a clash of principles. Existential threats > everything else.
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 30 03:14:54
Nimatzo is Hitler.

Godwins law, had to do it.
The Children
Member
Mon Mar 30 03:15:45
ate a fly and caused a disease

guess the race

hint: no it is not spanish.
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 30 03:17:57
"ate a fly and caused a disease"_TC

Dude I sent you that link to London food banks. FUCKING USE IT TOU FILRHY SAVAGE!!!!
Dukhat
Member
Mon Mar 30 03:23:08
Obaminated's post is very typical of cuckservatives.

"Haha, look at all the dumb (insert out-group here). They are doing something that barely affects me but at least makes me feel superior."

But when a bunch of rich white criminals steal billions and trillions of dollars from you blind...

"Muh Free Markets! Hillary's Emails! Both Sides are the same!"

It's so easy for the rich to divide and conquer everyone else. Especially when they have different skin tones.
The Children
Member
Mon Mar 30 03:24:53
"ate a fly and caused a disease

guess the race"

>> maybe i wasnt clear enuff.

so let me rephrase that shit.

_________

GUESS THE RACE

Ate a fly and caused a disease.
Roughly 100 years ago.

Guess the race!

The Children
Member
Mon Mar 30 03:30:12
"Historian Alfred W. Crosby stated in 2003 that the flu originated in Kansas,[21] and popular author John M. Barry described a January 1918 outbreak in Haskell County, Kansas, as the point of origin in his 2004 article.[11]"

>> maybe u bastards shuldnt spit on the ground every opportunity u get.

Rugian
Member
Mon Mar 30 17:40:08
Habebe and nimatzo

I see. So now you guys are on board with the whole "you have no civil liberties if you are dead" Cornyn/Roberts school of thought. Or to use the variant Lindsey Graham version, "free speech is a great idea, but we're in a war."

Would-be authoritarians have been trying to use national emergencies as a pretext to strip Americans of their fundamental rights since I was a teenager. It has had the effect over the years of making me especially jealous of the ones they haven't succeeded in taking yet.

I don't give a shit if I have a minuscule chance of dying from some vague threat, it's not worth surrendering our liberties over.

Every issue involves finding an appropriate balance between freedom and security. With the Chinese virus though, that balance has been completely cast aside, with security being absolutely paramount and freedoms counting for naught. Never mind if the current state reaction of COVID-19 is wildly out of proportion to the actual threat or not.

As long as we're allowing the government to assume near-total control over our lives over this virus, what other things should they do this for? International terrorism? Violent crime sprees? The annual flu season? Automobile-related deaths? Gun rights? Drugs? Behaviors that increase the likelihood of cardiovascular disease or cancer?

This is a slippery slope and you fuckers are acting like it's a fun slide.
Seb
Member
Mon Mar 30 18:01:07
Rugian:

It's not about your miniscule chance of death, it's about your chance of spreading a disease that could kills thousands.

There is an entire cluster of deaths in South Korea, with thousands of people dead, that can be traced to one woman that broke curfew. She's fine by the way.

So if you want to go liberty and personal responsibility, that needs to be matched by unlimited personal liability for any disease you may spread through reckless behaviour I think.

This is the way. Freedom and responsiblity.

Pillz
Member
Mon Mar 30 19:18:38
Seb talking out his ass - south Korea has 135 deaths.
Habebe
Member
Mon Mar 30 19:54:53
Rugian, I probably habe a low chance of dying, but I love my meemaw and ive always had a Fascist streak in dire times.

I mean I get the slippery slope, but gatherings of people are at no risk of being permanent.
smart dude
Member
Tue Mar 31 00:42:14
Didn't know Rugian hated states' rights so much.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Mar 31 01:33:34
Rugian
Yes it so funny.

Nigga please! People like you who can not , CAN NOT change their game plan aka ”muh freedumb” like a broken record, are on a fast track to win a Darwin award, sooner or later.

Noone really knows how bad Coronas is or how bad it will get (notwithstanding your expertise in epidimiology), will it mutate? And when I don’t know I am conservative, I apply cautionary principles. I called this rehearsal initially, but it is more than a rehearsal, we are making up much of the game plan, for whatever else that is in store. And we found a fatal flaw in our response to a pandemic. The Muh freedom crowd who will see a deep state conspiracy in containing a virus.

I am in favor of what seb wrote, ok you can have your freedom, but if breaking contagion ordinance we will bring you to trial for attempted man slaughter. Deal?
Forwyn
Member
Tue Mar 31 11:16:51
"Existential threats > everything else."

So fund space exploration, it's the only way to mitigate ELEs.

A 2% lethal Boomer Doomer ain't it
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Mar 31 13:02:25
Ok Forwyn, I will start funding space exploration.

But seriously I am all for colonizing and mining the solar system.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Mar 31 13:23:47
<3
Forwyn
Member
Tue Mar 31 13:24:09
I knew you had some Persian oil money tucked away somewhere
jergul
large member
Tue Mar 31 14:22:28
As long as you do not envison the human component of any life boat strategy to be larger than frozen embryos.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 31 14:32:35
"
As long as you do not envison the human component"

The basis of Soviet/Jergul ideology.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 31 14:35:39
Nimatzo, Agreed. In Elon we trust.

We really shouldn't be a one person planet either, one way or another we will probably fuck this one up.
jergul
large member
Tue Mar 31 14:42:23
Habebe
Space radiation. Frozen procreation stuff is the best solution even if you want a human crew. But a human crew is a needless complication that increases the cost and chances of catastrophic mission failure.

The only reason to want it is because its not really a life boat strategy for humanity, its a life boat strategy for specific individuals of humanity.

You want the life boats to go far, far away. In both time and space.

The surest way to fuck "this" up is by creating competing planets within punching distance of each other.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 31 14:44:24
One species planet* not.one.person planet.
Habebe
Member
Tue Mar 31 14:45:01
I need drugs...this qurantime needs a.refill.
jergul
large member
Tue Mar 31 14:47:53
Habebe
So, do you want adult elephants and whales on this space mission of yours to ensure biodiversity?

Or is embryonic transport starting to compute for you now?
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