Utopia Talk / Politics / official BS by delusional fraud POTUS#32

tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Mar 31 18:31:08 to correct Rugian in last thread, those were my observations alone... quite obvious if you just listen to the briefing (if you can stomach it) especially the Q&A which are always disasters
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 01 00:51:25 a fireside chat drafted by Dana Milbank (using Trump's words): " The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We have it totally under control. I’m not concerned at all. It’s one person coming in from China. We pretty much shut it down. It will all work out well. We’re in great shape. Doesn’t spread widely at all in the United States because of the early actions that myself and my administration took. There’s a chance it won’t spread. It’s something that we have tremendous control over. Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear. Just stay calm. It will go away. The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. This is their new hoax. Whatever happens, we’re totally prepared. Totally ready. We’re rated number one for being prepared. We are so prepared like we never have been prepared. Taking early intense action, we have seen dramatically fewer cases of the virus in the United States. We’re very much ahead of everything. This is a flu. I didn’t know people died from the flu. Here, we’re talking about a much smaller range. It is very mild. Some people will have this at a very light level. Some of them go to work. The mortality rate is much, much better. In my opinion it’s way, way down. I think it’s substantially below 1 percent. A fraction of 1 percent. I think the numbers are going to get progressively better as we go along. This is just my hunch. We have very little problem in this country. We only have five people. We only have 11 cases. Out of billions of people, 15 people. They’re getting better, and soon they’re all going to be better, hopefully. We’re going very substantially down, not up. The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point. To this point, and because we have had a very strong border policy, we have had 40 deaths. As of this moment, we have 50 deaths. I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be. Frankly, the testing has been going very smooth. The tests are all perfect. Anybody that wants a test can get a test. The tests are beautiful. We have a tremendous testing setup. I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. We are very close to a vaccine. A matter of months. You take a solid flu vaccine, you don’t think that could have an impact? Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. Based on very strong evidence. I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter. No way I’m going to cancel the convention. Stock Market starting to look very good to me! We’re the ones that gave the great response. I’d rate it a 10. We’ve done a fantastic job. I think they should be appreciative. Gallup just gave us the highest rating. The highest on record. I like this stuff. I really get it. Maybe I have a natural ability. We think it’s going to have a very good ending. We’re going to win faster than people think. I hope. This blindsided the world! Who could have ever predicted a thing like this? This was something that nobody has ever thought could happen to this country. I’ve always known this is a real, this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously. If you’re talking about the virus, no, that’s not under control for anyplace in the world. I was talking about what we’re doing is under control, but I’m not talking about the virus. I didn’t say Easter. It was just an aspiration. I am giving consideration to a QUARANTINE. So you’re talking about 2.2 million deaths. If we could hold that down...between 100,000 and 200,000, and we all together have done a very good job. START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!! FORD, GET GOING ON VENTILATORS, FAST!!!!!! Invoke “P”. I want our life back again. It was nobody’s fault. No, just things that happened. I don’t take responsibility at all. " http://www...ide-chat-trump-should-deliver/ a classic was his "I was talking about what we’re doing is under control, but I’m not talking about the virus" defense when confronted by him having said it was under control i forgot to mock that here i think... so the gov'ts actions are under control?... oh... great thing to mention...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 01 13:40:00 a couple more observations about the idiocy of Trump yesterday he again was touting chloroquine... noting that in addition to the clinical trials, actual infected people are trying it [clinical trials involve actual people, him remaining unaware despite saying this in ~3 different briefings]... and claiming it can't kill you (which is false) so, this fucking moron as alleged president is standing before the nation w/ his incredible ratings to inform the public about a pandemic, & he continually gives false information every single time, & yet he keeps being allowed to do it... where is the outrage of every adult in the White House, Congress, etc? it's just the real media having to correct him (& they don't get to all of it), and all of them are dismissed as fake news by the cultists who only watch the propaganda team at Fox so... again... absurdly unfit
jergul large member	Wed Apr 01 14:10:44 Where can we donate to build walls?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 02 02:01:09 i'll accept all donations here's Trump at today's virus briefing: http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1245480070111735809 important info right there... also as to 'i just found out'... he's been claiming to be #1 on Facebook for months ridiculously absurd NO OTHER ADULT WOULD BE SO FUCKING IDIOTIC
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 02 18:02:32 it appears Trump has seen "COVID" written for the first time today as he spelled it out instead of just saying 'covid' like everyone else does
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 02 22:36:53 "The President also wanted us to make sure that we think outside the box, make sure we're finding all the best thinkers in the country, making sure we're getting all the best ideas." ...so he appointed his son-in-law (& possibly the devil) http://twitter.com/thehill/status/1245837160730619905
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 03 15:29:48 another devastating montage of Fox News/Trump admin: http://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1246146713523453957 at the risk of mocking the mentally retarded: in regards to Devin Nunes definitely suggesting families go to eat -inside- restaurants he later defended himself against 'fake' news criticism saying he meant only to get takeout/drive-thru... yet he -definitely- was not saying that: “if you’re healthy, you and your family, it’s a great time to just go out, go to a local restaurant. Likely you can get in easily." & "go to your local pub" that is NOT getting take out ...not that proving Devin Nunes is a fucking liar is a big achievement (& that retarded liar would be head of the House intel committee if R's retake the House)
jergul large member	Fri Apr 03 16:14:55 Well, Russia offered an oil branch to the US: Get on board with OPEC+ and we will talk about reducing production. Trump dismissed it of course. He think SA and Russia are hurting too much. He should review rig numbers. Available weekly.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 01:52:42 a snippet from a briefing this week " Q Mitch McConnell. Yeah. He said that impeachment diverted the attention of the government. Do you think that, in any way? This was happening and building at the same time. Did it divert your attention or your team’s attention or the Vice President’s attention? THE PRESIDENT: Well, I don’t like to think I did. I think I handled it very well, but I guess it probably did. I mean, I got impeached. I think, you know, I certainly devoted a little time to thinking about it, right? Q (Inaudible) the pandemic? THE PRESIDENT: So, but think of it: It was a hoax. It was a total hoax. And when you think that I got impeached only because they had a majority in the House. They didn’t get one — they didn’t get one Republican vote — 196 to nothing. Not one Republican. It’s nev- — I don’t think it’s ever happened. The Republicans stuck together and they stuck together in the Senate — 52 to a half. A half. So, you know, when you say that — yeah, I think it took a lot of — I see them going and saying about speed. Well, they probably illegally impeached me in the sense that, if you look at the FBI today — with what happened, the horrible things — nobody cares about that now because all they’re thinking about is the virus, and that’s okay with me. But you look at the report that came out from IG Horowitz; it’s disgraceful what went on. It’s disgraceful. It’s a total disgrace. They got caught in the act. But you know what? We won’t talk about that now. Did it divert my attention? I think I’m getting A-pluses for the way I handled myself during a phony impeachment. Okay? It was a hoax. But certainly, I guess, I thought of it. And I think I probably acted — I don’t think I would have done any better had I not been impeached. Okay? And I think that’s a great tribute to something; maybe it’s a tribute to me. But I don’t think I would have acted any differently or I don’t think I would have acted any faster. But the Democrats, their whole — their whole life, their whole being, their whole existence was to try and get me out of office any way they can, even if it was a phony deal. And it was a phony deal. And it turned out — and all you have to do is look today at the FBI reports. Take a look at what the FBI did. Take a look at the people. Take a look at Comey’s report — 78 pages of total kill. Take a look at that. Take a look at the report on McCabe. Just read it and you’ll see how horrible it was. And you know what? I don’t think this country is going to take it, if you want to know the truth. " - there was no hoax - it was not an illegal impeachment - many R senators agreed what he did was wrong - the FBI had -NOTHING- to do with it (impeachment was entirely on Ukraine) - the IG report, nor Comey, nor McCabe, nor any other reports show any corrupt intent against Trump (NONE) ... him using his standard 'take a look at' nonsense as he has no idea no other adult would continue to spread this total bullshit as alleged president ------ "I don’t think I would have done any better had I not been impeached. Okay? And I think that’s a great tribute to something; maybe it’s a tribute to me." fuck you... (it's even more annoying if you listen to him saying it)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 11:59:15 Trump says they inherited bad tests from Obama http://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1246199405750992900 hmm... so Obama had tests for the Trump virus... i guess China is right, we did create it...
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 04 12:57:49 4 more years
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 12:59:49 Americans will flood your country
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 04 13:01:58 Like they did when Trump was first elected? Or when Bush II was elected in 2000, or 2004? There is nothing more empty than a leftist threat to "leave the country" if the other side wins.
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 04 13:04:53 Anyway, your chief issue seems to be that you can't handle Trump's personality and speaking style. In that case, maybe just stop listening to him? He's objectively the best choice in a race in which the other side has been hijacked by socialists and SJWs. He's good for the country, the economy, and your liberties. If you view of him more of an abstract and less as someone who you have to compulsively watch for 20 hours every day, you might have an easier time voting for him this November.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 13:59:17 "Trump's personality and speaking style" & his competence & lawfulness & mental fitness "good for..." "...the country" -> double-plus wrong "...the economy" -> at the expense of the environment, absolutely "...your liberties" -> as long as you don't cross him... then he'll baselessly accuse you of crimes & want you locked up or try to destroy your business/life w/ calls for boycotts & license denials
Pillz Member	Sat Apr 04 14:03:56 What great man made natural disasters has trump been responsible for again? And seems like the number of people who suffer due to crossing trump is miniscule in a nation of 300mil+ and the socio economic make up of the states..
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 15:28:57 it will take time for his heavily pro-pollution policies to realize their effects the distrust he's sewn in media/courts/fbi/intel/elections is massive & dangerous OAN would probably become the top network if this shitbag gets another 4 years also he lies... constantly... most people should have a problem w/ that... not 'meh, most politicians lie'... not about every goddamn thing, big & small & he's a fucking moron, learning nothing about any issue... would you consult him on anything at all? would anyone? maybe on beauty pageants or how best to defrauding investors
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 15:37:55 also, he's barely literate... he's struggling to read right now at the briefing just mispronounced 'coronavirus'... a new word for him i guess... anyone heard that word recently? i feel like it's said a lot
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 16:09:19 Trump admitted he fired the IG of Intel community for letting Congress know about the whistleblower complaint... which was completely corroborated then ranted how it was fake & a scam, and a perfect call, yadda yadda continually lying corrupt dictator... 4 more years!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 17:26:38 "My head is gonna explode. I feel like it should watch these rally/briefings. But the sheer magnitude of the bullshit, self aggrandizement and lies he spews is just incomprehensible even for...it's incomprehensible. He's beyond dangerous." ~ Hollis (Chip) Felkel (some guy) so... it's not just me
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 04 22:12:15 Fox News found new misinformation to broadcast http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1246619114472222721 are they legally obligated to spread nonsense or something?
Rugian Member	Sun Apr 05 08:49:42 Oh are we just passing off the opinion of random nobodies as authoritative fact now? Fine with me. RD @real_defender 11h Replying to @realDonaldTrump We must take back the House from the corrupt democrats in November.
Rugian Member	Sun Apr 05 08:52:19 "...the country" -> double-plus wrong Show me concrete examples of how the country has ACTUALLY suffered under Trump. Oh wait, you can't. The US has been fine for the last three years, and it will continue to be for the next five once people stop melting down over the Chinese virus. "...the economy" -> at the expense of the environment, absolutely Um, the environment is fine dude. What are you, one of those hippies who think we should have a ban on any new pipelines because a Swedish teenager had an autistic fit over global warming? Calm the fuck down. "...your liberties" -> as long as you don't cross him... then he'll baselessly accuse you of crimes & want you locked up or try to destroy your business/life w/ calls for boycotts & license denials Who has Trump actually caused to be put in jail for crossing him? I'll wait for your list.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Apr 05 12:07:57 "Show me concrete examples of how the country has ACTUALLY suffered " since the blob entered the scene: -trust in FBI (by R's) dropped 20+ points -trust in media (by R's) i saw one poll again about 20 pts (from 30s to teens) i'm certain it's dropped for courts(judges)/intel agencies too, why wouldn't it? (not going to spend time hunting for polls) plus he has & will continue to claim the elections are rigged & full of fraud these are not positive effects (even for Forwyn, as all his smears are not based on any facts... 100% of them just about making himself look better) plus he promotes Fox News opinion shows & OAN... actual GARBAGE media plus he fills the minds of his cultists with other misinformation besides those false smears yes, he's harming the country... massively ------------------ "the environment is fine dude" Trump has openly mocked environmental concerns repeatedly, dismisses climate change (even the report by his own admin), is actively seeking higher polluting cars... and appoints EPA-hating energy execs to lead the EPA where they seek soundproof booths to do business. yes, i'm concerned. -------------- "Who has Trump actually caused to be put in jail for crossing him? I'll wait for your list. " you consider this an argument for your side... it's actually a massive embarrassment. The President has repeatedly accused people of crimes & wanted them investigated/arrested & his people just ignore him... they ignore the head of the branch of government that is in charge of enforcing the law. that shouldn't happen... yet we have an unfit idiot moron dictator child so it simply has to be... military leaders have had to ignore him too. Plus others around him who just hope he forgets he asked them to do something (which isn't just news reports, it's come out in testimony).
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Apr 05 12:15:24 also, this coronavirus thing i hear about that Trump can't pronounce he claims 3x a day every day that he closed the border w/ China (which isn't even true, as usual) but that's all he did... til mid March. At best, he slowed the spread which only bought time, yet he did nothing w/ that time. " So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that! " ^ that was March 9... even though kargen will claim it's mind-reading, that's Trump saying the flu is worse & that it would be crazy to shut anything down over this virus just one of tons of examples of him downplaying virus, plus he contradicted the experts & he's still repeatedly lying even w/ his 'changed tone' this is harmful
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Apr 05 12:21:21 " The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me! " ~Trump, Feb 24 another good one, i seriously doubt any expert told him it was 'very much under control'... just one of the MANY times the fraud tried to boost the stock market w/ bullshit
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Apr 05 16:09:17 "We are learning much about the Invisible Enemy. It is tough and smart, but we are tougher and smarter!" ~ guy i assume he thought that was tremendously inspirational i'm not convinced he would do better than a virus on any multiple choice tests
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Apr 05 16:12:45 a tiger has tested positive at a zoo... this fuckwit 'president' better not suggest cats are spreading it
jergul large member	Sun Apr 05 17:21:43 The virus is neither tough, nor smart. There is just a lot of them.
Habebe Member	Sun Apr 05 17:29:42 Tigers are catching?!?! Release the Kraken!! No, wait I mean. Release the Tiger king!!!
Paramount Member	Sun Apr 05 17:34:31 ” The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA.” - Trump, feb 24 ”General Motors MUST immediately open their stupidly abandoned Lordstown plant in Ohio, or some other plant, and START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!! FORD, GET GOING ON VENTILATORS, FAST!!!!!! ” - Trump, mars 27
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 07 13:55:41 piece of shit press secretary #3 is gone... without ever holding a press briefing new piece of shit press secretary is Kayleigh McEnany... who was a bullshit-loaded Trump cheerleader on CNN during last election season (& as Trump would say: 'straight out of central casting' for a cheerleader) here she is promising no terrorism or diseases like the coronavirus here unlike w/ Obama http://twitter.com/CharlesMBlow/status/1247563132769390595
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 07 21:44:05 the bullshit artist claimed that when he was comparing to the flu, he wasn't downplaying it, as some of the worst pandemics have been flus are any of you fans willing to swallow that obvious bullshit? why do you tolerate it? why do you think he wouldn't lie to you about any & everything? (he would & does, i assure you) see his tweet above (Sun Apr 05 12:15:24 post) if for some reason you will try to claim he's not a fucking liar ================ and for at least two briefings straight now, he has suggested doctors/nurses take hydroxychloroquine before their shifts to guard against the virus... citing his 'many people are saying' evidence: " I just think it’s something — you know the expression, I’ve used it for certain reasons: “What do you have to lose?” What do you have to lose? And a lot of people are saying that when — and are taking it — if you’re a doctor, a nurse, a first responder, a medical person going into hospitals, they say taking it before the fact is good. But what do you have to lose? They say, “Take it.” " it's unlikely they would listen... but still shows what a fucking unfit piece of garbage he is... what study has shown it prevents getting the virus? if there was one, he could (& should) cite it, instead we get "a lot of people are saying" which he uses often on made-up bullshit (plus when a reporter asked Fauci to weigh in on it, Trump stopped him saying Fauci has answered it enough times)
Paramount Member	Wed Apr 08 00:06:41 ” We will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here. We will not see terrorism come here. And isn't that refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency of President Obama?" A thousand americans die each day of corona now during Trump’s presidency. The Americans are suffering very greatly. Compared to Obama’s presidency when no american died of corona. That is indeed refreshing.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 08 00:32:41 she's garbage... but if like her predecessor, she'll basically just be on Fox News... with the other garbage another North Korea pink lady
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 08 17:33:43 the lying fucking moron just said a million people fraud voted in California as fact this was voter -rolls- being out of date, not voters FUCK THIS LYING MORON
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Apr 11 12:00:08 the fucking moron explaining 'the germ' is so smart that our antibiotic can't keep up w/ it http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1248698754556923904 (antibiotics are for bacteria problems, not viruses) this is the guy 'informing' the public daily on the pandemic i'm sure plenty more idiocy & lies too, i didn't see that 'briefing' (that twitter thread has many more clips, but not really in the mood for more ridiculously absurd unfitness)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 13 02:09:41 another solid ad http://twi...nko/status/1249516893876224001 hard to believe the seemingly retarded Devin Nunes is the R counterpart to Schiff
Rugian Member	Mon Apr 13 06:07:14 ^another preach-to-the-choir hitpeace. I'm sure that ad will resonate with the blue checkmark crowd on Twitter, but for everyone else it's just two minutes of that lying snake Schiff speaking a bunch of nonsense. -If you want a trustworthy source to make the argument against Trump, maybe don't use the guy who fucking lied for years about the Russia collusion hoax -If you want to make the argument that the Senate failed to duly convict Trump based on the House's case, maybe the House impeachment process shouldn't have been so unashamedly partisan and driven by the "fuck Trump l" crowd. That ad will convince no one.
Rugian Member	Mon Apr 13 06:10:30 Your love of Schiff is almost as bad as your former hero worship of James "Tiberius" (remember that? Rofl how cringey) Comey. Maybe you should get over your Trump hatred and remember that the rest of the Beltway establishment is disliked by the public for a reason.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 13 12:02:25 "speaking a bunch of nonsense" i bet even some his supporters agree you can't count on him to do the right thing, he won't change, he has shitty morals, etc. they just fear the alternative worse (again, why does the Never Trump republican resistance exist - [and is filled w/ respectable people, not Diamond & Silk type people] - if he's so great?) enough R Senators agreed that what Trump did was wrong to have successfully impeached him (but only 1 willing to say it was impeachable)... thus it was not a hoax nor bad case made... it was quite disgusting for Lamar Alexander to say case proven so no witnesses needed, thus Fox News (& Trump) allowed to keep pretending nothing was wrong one recent example of Trump's garbageness: Trump: "Will be immediately sending 100 Ventilators to Colorado at the request of Senator Gardner!" Gardner just happens to be one R Senator at risk this election... you think these two things unrelated? Trump using medical equipment to score political points... he's disgusting (plus he's indicated repeatedly that you should only praise him if you want help from him) and Comey is still a hero
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 13 12:06:04 " For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect.... ....It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons. With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly! " ~ dictator there's Trump stepping on State's rights... i'm sure Republicans will be shocked & disgusted with him now... plus it's obviously false as he never closed any states to begin with
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 13 12:13:35 for those happy w/ Trump undermining all faith in the media, here's another disturbing tweet by him: "Just watched Mike Wallace wannabe, Chris Wallace, on @FoxNews. I am now convinced that he is even worse than Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd of Meet the Press(please!), or the people over at Deface the Nation. What the hell is happening to @FoxNews. It’s a whole new ballgame over there!" (childish as usual... not going to let that be normalized...) he's been promoting OAN extra hard (plus i'm sure he still loves Hannity, Ingraham, Pirro, Fox & Friends) does ANYONE think people who listen to Trump & his favorite 'news' programs are well-informed? gotta be the worst-informed people in society, guessing randomly on a test would do better if you want to cheer his actions, then you should also consider the direction he's going with it
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 13 17:39:14 Trump's council on re-opening the country: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVgaQ3YXsAAlHf_?format=jpg guaranteed 100% loyalty i guess... qualifications not too relevant as usual
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 13 17:54:26 give this woman a raise he touts closing China 10x a day & today tried to layout a timeline that he didn't downplay & ignore the virus... she asks 'what did you do w/ the time you bought'? and 'what did you do in ALL of February'? he's got no answer, just hostility http://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1249827279812939777
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 11:37:38 "When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total. And that's the way it's gotta be. It's total." "Cuomo’s been calling daily, even hourly, begging for everything, most of which should have been the state’s responsibility, such as new hospitals, beds, ventilators, etc. I got it all done for him, and everyone else, and now he seems to want Independence! That won’t happen!" "Tell the Democrat Governors that “Mutiny On The Bounty” was one of my all time favorite movies. A good old fashioned mutiny every now and then is an exciting and invigorating thing to watch, especially when the mutineers need so much from the Captain. Too easy!" ...nothing to worry about there
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 12:01:05 there's a 1935 & a 1962 'Mutiny on the Bounty' if he meant the 1962 one, it could be his most modern movie reference yet (outside of ones he had cameos in) ...and as to his cameos, reportedly he insisted on them if you wanted to film on his properties
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 12:20:51 " I don’t know why President Obama hasn’t supported Joe Biden a long time ago. There is something he feels is wrong. Why isn’t — he’ll come out. I’m sure he’s got to come out at some point because he certainly doesn’t want to see me for four more years. We’re not — we think a little bit differently. You know what? I’ll tell you, it does amaze me that President Obama hasn’t supported Sleepy Joe. It just hasn’t happened. When is it going to happen? When is it going to happen? Why isn’t he? He knows something that you don’t know, that I think I know, but you don’t know. " ~ grossly unfit idiot child... "He knows something that you don’t know, that I think I know, but you don’t know."... i mean c'mon well, here's a 12 minute endorsement by Obama http://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1250088269502709762 it's almost as if he was waiting for the process to play out as is completely reasonable & not suspicious at all
williamthebastard Member	Tue Apr 14 12:29:26 The USA is fun. We get to see what medieval europe was like in real time.
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Apr 14 14:50:23 Tue Apr 14 11:37:38 "When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total. And that's the way it's gotta be. It's total." I find it hard to believe that none of UP usual pseudo libertarians, state rights advocates, and other losers went completely nuts after reading this Donald’s statement. But, apparently this is where things stand now
Forwyn Member	Tue Apr 14 15:07:00 Eh. We've got a couple dozen governors running on unilateral declarations, infringing on 1A and 2A rights left and right. Trump continues to blather retarded shit but is mostly sitting back, sending supplies to states.
hood Member	Tue Apr 14 17:30:41 "We've got a couple dozen governors running on unilateral declarations, infringing on 1A and 2A rights left and right." Thing is, it's been ruled completely legal, given certain instances. COVID meets the criteria.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 17:45:41 he's saying all sorts of nonsense at today's briefing as usual, but one bit just now... "big powerful countries can't believe what we were able to do" ...this is made-up bullshit what is wrong w/ this 'man'?
Forwyn Member	Tue Apr 14 17:47:55 "Thing is, it's been ruled completely legal, given certain instances. COVID meets the criteria." And would simultaneously give wide latitude to the executive. Not "total", as the retard says, but national emergency tends to overrule quite a few safeguards.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 17:55:37 note to self: count the number of times he said 'powerful'... could be his most ever they release a transcript of these idiocy sessions on whitehouse.gov after a couple days
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 18:00:42 one of them was: "I will then be authorizing each individual governor of each individual state to implement a re-opening and a very powerful re-opening plan of their state" apparently an adult told him he doesn't have absolute power, but of course the child still has to pretend that he needs to 'authorize' things the governors already -OBVIOUSLY- could do as they are who closed things
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 18:16:24 this guy is such a weasel... he is halting funding to the WHO, one critique was of them praising China's transparency a reporter notes Trump praised China's transparency & his 'answer' is 'i made a trade deal' yadda yadda then silences that reporter... he's asked a 2nd time by another reporter, he dodges again... he's asked a 3rd time & now just denies he said it & brings up closing the border for the nth time Trump, Jan 24, still on his twitter: "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Apr 14 19:01:03 Trump says he trusts China's Xi on coronavirus and the US has it 'totally under control' PUBLISHED WED, JAN 22 2020 5:01 AM EST President Donald Trump told CNBC on Wednesday he trusts the information coming out of China on the coronavirus, which has killed nine people and sickened nearly 500 others in that country. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday confirmed the first case in the United States. "We have it totally under control," Trump told "Squawk Box" co-host Joe Kernen in an interview from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. "It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine." Cont http://www...html?__twitter_impression=true
CrownRoyal Member	Tue Apr 14 19:04:41 Donald is an easy mark for these guys, little flattery is all you need. And maybe a shiny thing that he could dangle as a quick “victory”.
Habebe Member	Tue Apr 14 20:55:35 Tw, It's more than just that, it's more than refusing to even mention the word Taiwan. I don't think permanently defunding them is good. I think some serious restructuring of the institution.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 21:20:51 I know he had other reasons, just noting he's a lying hypocrite... as happens ridiculously often plus, for some reason, you fans think he's tough on China just like he pretends he's been tough on Russia
hood Member	Tue Apr 14 21:22:03 Trump's attempted defunding of the WHO is just his attempt to deflect blame. It's like he's going through another bankruptcy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 21:38:44 yeah, I'm sure he has no understanding of the WHO, just doing all he can to try to smear his constant supply of bullshit on the clear record of inaction and misinformation on his part he had a bullshit propaganda video at yesterday's briefing and then his WHO rant today --- also, to amend my last comment, obviously he's been tougher on China than Russia... although that's a really low bar... he's been tougher on Canada, France, Germany... Denmark... the FBI... Macy's... than Russia However he also licks China's balls way more than the typical president, including multiple times about this virus
Habebe Member	Tue Apr 14 21:45:32 Tw, No one cares about Russia. He has been tougher on China than any recent president by a long shot.Ball licking aside, conservatives HATE China, literally more than almoat anything/one.This is a reason why he has such fans.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 22:21:41 conservatives -used- to hate Russia... not after the mentally-ill fraud cheerleader got to them though also, ball-licking is relevant... ball-licking your enemy is usually frowned upon... (& you can say all the flattery & ignoring their human rights abuses & every other issue is to help his trade deal, but he hasn't actually achieved anything remarkable yet to make it worthwhile despite his claims... just like w/ NK)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Apr 14 22:29:36 Trump wisdom: http://pbs...XYAAOSVf?format=jpg&name=large also, coincidentally, what every child does
Habebe Member	Wed Apr 15 01:11:58 Tw, Conservatives stopped caring about Russia when China came into its own. China is gaining power amd influence ata tremendous rate, amd hasn't liberalised at all, they are very much still the same ccp that ran over protesters with a tank.There technocratic evil is.a.way bigger threat than Russia which only has oil, military tech and some so so scientists goinf for it. Other than that it's a backwater.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 01:32:36 they were the #1 foe for Republican Classic (2012) --- here's a clip that basically sums up every Trump appearance: http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1250186439637295105 "great numbers, everything we've done, we've been very very strong on it and very powerful on it" doesn't really matter the subject
chuck Member	Wed Apr 15 07:28:29 http://www...lus-check-trump-signature.html Getting a Stimulus Check? Trump’s Name Will Be on It The decision to have Mr. Trump’s name on the checks, a break in protocol, was made by the Treasury Department after Mr. Trump suggested the idea to Steven Mnuchin, the Treasury secretary, according to a department official. The president’s name will appear in the “memo” section of the check because Mr. Trump is not legally authorized to sign such disbursements.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 14:37:14 did dickbag Mnuchin mention any legitimate rationale whatsoever? i'll guess no
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 14:40:26 French & Brazilian hydroxychloroquine studies have found only harm from the drug so maybe don't "take it! take it! take it!" as the President recommends (not that i would fully trust the Brazilian one)
Forwyn Member	Wed Apr 15 14:42:51 Harmful side-effects have been known since before it entered clinical use over seventy years ago
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 15:45:21 you'd never know it from Trump's early promotion (plus Giuliani was pushing it on Fox News, plus more of his shill shows over there... another weird story in the totally fucked up situation, i assure everyone, that we are living in)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 17:34:31 Trump was asked why his name is going on the checks his always accurate honest answer was he doesn't know where the checks are going as if that answered the question & refused to acknowledge the follow-up re-question
kargen Member	Wed Apr 15 17:37:47 We all know why. He is a narcissist just like most politicians. Why waste time asking the question when the answer is so obvious and his name being in the memo doesn't matter one damn bit.
hood Member	Wed Apr 15 18:07:48 It costs money to reprint them, so yeah it does matter. Taxpayer money is being wasted for even less of a reason than normal.
kargen Member	Wed Apr 15 18:23:19 I've seen nothing that says the checks are being reprinted. They aren't scheduled to go out until the last part of April as is and they (according to the IRS) will be on time. All that is happening is his name is getting stuck in the memo line.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 21:51:05 "He is a narcissist just like most politicians." and it's an election year & he wants to appear to be giving voters money and he is NOT like other politicians they are putting his name in the memo line as the only legal place to do it... this suggests complete absurdity start noticing
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 22:03:40 also, as usual, why do you tolerate him constantly lying to your face? he did his best to imply he had no idea why his name is going on the checks with a lot of word salad that actually said nothing he's supposed to be a public servant, remember? (i'm he sure doesn't know, however)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 22:28:00 " More than ever before, we’ve held our rate, the numbers — everything we’ve done. We’ve been very, very strong on it and very powerful on it. ... All of the aid that we send will be discussed at very, very powerful lettel [sic] — letters and with very powerful and influential groups and smart groups — medically, politically, and every other way. ... And the Defense Production Act was used very powerfully — more powerfully than anybody would know. In fact, so powerfully that, for the most part, we didn’t have to officially take it out — it was a hammer; it was a very powerful hammer ... This afternoon, I met with the leaders — the top people of many of America’s big, powerful, beautiful, and, you know, very, very important hospitals and hospital associations who join us today. ... I will then be authorizing each individual governor, of each individual state, to implement a reopening and a very powerful reopening plan of their state at a time and in a manner as most appropriate. ... Other foreign countries — even powerful countries — can’t believe what we were able to do with ventilators. Big, powerful countries. Big producing countries can’t believe what we were able to do. ... incredible, big, powerful shippers and transportation companies. " ^Trump's 'powerful' comments from Apr 14 briefing via http://www...resident-trump-press-briefing/ they didn't even label it a Coronavirus briefing like they usually do i pity the fool who has to type that shit up
kargen Member	Wed Apr 15 23:00:47 are you saying other politicians are not narcissists? and I didn't comment on whether he was lying or not. I told you why they did it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 23:14:56 his mental illness far exceeds the typical politician and why don't you care how often he lies? (& if going w/ 'every politician lies'... NOT SO CONSTANTLY!) he should have a reason for apparently insisting his name be on the checks and how fucked up is it that it was ever approved to begin with if any half-fit president had requested it, the treasury secretary would have noted it's illegal & that would have been the end of it... here either he insisted they find a way, or Mnuchin was too scared to push back that he searched for a means to do it (either way is fucked up)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Apr 15 23:34:19 he needs 5 of the 9 of these for mental illness level narcissism (although that's not his only illness): - A grandiose logic of self-importance - A fixation with fantasies of infinite success, control, brilliance, beauty, or idyllic love - A credence that he or she is extraordinary and exceptional and can only be understood by, or should connect with, other extraordinary or important people or institutions - A desire for unwarranted admiration - A sense of entitlement - Interpersonally oppressive behavior - No form of empathy - Resentment of others or a conviction that others are resentful of him or her - A display of egotistical and conceited behaviors or attitudes does he fit 5? he fits all 9 w/ tremendous strong powerful scores... more powerful than that powerful hammer that he used more powerfully than anyone can ever know every politician isn't knocking all of those characteristics out of the park in crystal clear fashion
kargen Member	Thu Apr 16 00:46:19 When did I say whether I care or not about his lies? I said his tweets do not matter. Since they do not matter it also doesn't matter the content of those tweets.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 16 01:17:20 you find him fit for office... also shut the fuck up about tweets not mattering... he says the EXACT same things at his official 'briefings' plus has noted repeatedly he considers his tweets official comments & a means of communicating even w/ world leaders (& barely any of this recent stuff is tweets anyway) ========== "This is COVID-19, not COVID-1 folks, and so you would think the people in charge of the World Health Organization, facts, and figures, would be on top of that" ~ Kellyanne Conway COVID-19 is '19' because of 2019... you would think top advisors of the President of the United States would be on top of that
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Apr 16 02:12:17 for the crazy person: " Upon information and belief, Iran or its proxies are planning a sneak attack on U.S. troops and/or assets in Iraq. If this happens, Iran will pay a very heavy price, indeed! " ~ a Trump tweet on Apr 1 of this year at the next briefing: " Q And do you think tweeting about it will help prevent that from happening — THE 'PRESIDENT': Yeah, I think it’s — it’s not tweeting. It’s called “social media.” It’s social media. It gets out. I have, you know, hundreds of millions of people. Number one on Facebook. Did you know I was number one on Facebook? I mean, I just found out I’m number one on Facebook. I thought that was very nice for whatever it means. No, it represents something. And when I can explain to people: Just don’t do it. You know, it’s going to be bad if you do it. It’s going to be really bad. And they don’t need to do it. They have enough problems. Iran has enough problems without doing that. But we’ve been pulling back very substantially over the last year, in Iraq. And so, you know, that’s the way it is. " that's the 'president' confirming his tweet was a direct warning to Iran... although embarrassed to call it tweeting, plus nonsensically claiming (& lying to have just learned) that he's #1 on facebook... w/o knowing what it means (& no one else knows what he means either)... but he's been saying it for months so not just 'learned' (as i have noted before) ...he is such a fucking moron but anyway, yes, tweets matter... if you maintain your position, please direct me to the official notice that the public should ignore the communication coming from the president that only you seem to know about (& that he would have specifically contradicted, thus you are definitely wrong even if it did exist, which it doesn't, even though many in the White House & other adults who have to defend him probably wish they could issue...)
jergul large member	Fri Apr 17 04:53:58 Lets see how habituated we have become. Joda, men jeg tror det er - ikke tvitring. Det heter sosial media. Det er sosial media. Det komer ut. Jeg har, som du vet, hundrevis av millioner folk. Nummer en på facebook. Jeg mener, jeg fant nettopp ut at jeg er nummer en på fb. Veldig hyggelig, for alt det er verd. Nei, det representerer noe. Og når jeg kan forklare for folk at de må bare ikke gjøre det. Du vet, det kommer til å bli ille om du gjør det. Virkelig ille. Og de trenger ikke gjøre det. De har nok problemer. Iran har nok problemer uten at det gjør det. Men vi har trukket ned betydelig over det siste året i Iran. Og så, du vet, slik er det bare. Yepp. We have become habituated in English. He sounds insane in Norwegian.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 17 11:57:28 he sounds insane to me in English... i will not fall for his SO OBVIOUS fraudness & idiocy 3 Trump tweets: " LIBERATE MINNESOTA! " LIBERATE MICHIGAN! " LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege! " has shooting begun?
jergul large member	Fri Apr 17 12:03:57 Habituation is a sneaky thing. He probably would have sounded worse to 2016 TW.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 17 12:05:37 Capitalism has claimed more guns than government ever has. The MAGA revolution (its a cultural thing) will begin with people storming pawnshops, not armories, to reclaim their weapons.
Rugian Member	Fri Apr 17 12:11:03 If Norwegian is unable to adequately convey the gloriousness of the God Emperor's messages, then maybe the language itself is the problem there. Fortunately that's not a long-term problem. Norway's EF EPI rating is 67.93, which makes Norwegian a redundant language in the long run.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 17 12:16:46 Ruggy You misunderstand. I feel Norwegian truly captured the essence of Trump. Thanks for the tip. I will practice my Chinese.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 17 12:23:20 Rugian has Trump Derangement Syndrome --- Twitter is showing as 'trends for me': "Inciting; Liberate; Liberate the USA; Liberate America; Liberate Michigan; "Liberate"; Liberate Minnesota" brings to mind (if in my age group): http://www...fnd7Yno&feature=youtu.be&t=111
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 17 12:33:52 " Minutes after a Fox News segment on a protest against social distancing measures outside the Minnesota governor's office, by conservative "Liberate Minnesota" group, Trump tweets "LIBERATE MINNESOTA!" " http://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1251171455901020160 it's so great our 'president' is completely controlled by a discredited 'news' network (or dictators who praise/pamper him)
jergul large member	Fri Apr 17 12:56:10 At least his approval rating is stumbling back down to his normal low 40s. Carteresque there. At least at the end. Carter's general approval was far higher than Trump's.
williamthebastard Member	Fri Apr 17 15:02:26 I love how the american parody of the nazi party - the monty pythonesquesly braindead version - are on the one hand spreading the fantastically impossible lie that 21,000,000 people died of covid-19 within a few weeks in China - making it by far the most lethal event to ever have happened to humanity in that timeframe - while simultaneously hosting coronavirus parties and public rallies against any kind of quarantines "because its only regular flu". These are the stupidest people on the planet.
jergul large member	Fri Apr 17 16:44:05 To be fair. The actual Nazi party was pretty brain dead too. Strength through Joy. Pfft.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Apr 17 17:01:21 Dr. Drew goes on Fox News, later apologizes for his comments Dr. Oz goes on Fox News, later apologizes for his comments Dr. Phil goes on Fox News, later apologizes for his comments
TJ Member	Fri Apr 17 17:10:54 TW: Trump tweets: " LIBERATE MINNESOTA! " LIBERATE MICHIGAN! " LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege! ----------------------------------- Trump is politicking with those tweets against Democratic Governors. I doubt he could be more obvious. The Trump administration has and remain continually promoting social distancing.
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