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Rugian
Member
Thu Apr 02 12:43:13
Yeah, no fucking shit. Given the facts, how absolutely braindead would you have to be to come up with any other conclusion?

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China Concealed Extent of Virus Outbreak, U.S. Intelligence Says

Nick Wadhams and Jennifer Jacobs

April 1, 2020, 11:15 AM EDTUpdated on April 1, 2020, 9:08 PM EDT

China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three U.S. officials.

The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret, and they declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.

The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said."

More at: http://www...outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says
Habebe
Member
Thu Apr 02 12:48:57
Probably true, but I'm also skeptical of US Intel anymore.
sam adams
Member
Thu Apr 02 12:51:01
Trying to cover it up and arresting doctors in the first month was very retarded of them. Seb level retarded.
Habebe
Member
Thu Apr 02 12:53:35
Other than Jergul does anyome Trust Chinese stats?

I mean even TC will admit they are probably made up.He just doesn't care.
jergul
large member
Thu Apr 02 13:15:32
Thicky
I don't trust anyone's stats. They are probably still finding sad, old, yellow corpses sealed 1-room apartments.

No, those corpses will not be counted as covid-19 dead.

BECAUSE THAT IS NOT DONE ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET. TO BE A COVID-19 DEAD, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POSITIVE COVID-19 TEST WHILE ALIVE.

The numbers suck everywhere. That is my stichk and spiel.

Sammy
Yepp, that was a really stupid Hubei call (think of it as one of your States).
Forwyn
Member
Thu Apr 02 13:26:40
Sure. That's why.

Except that China was welding apartment doors shut while simultaneously telling the WHO that it wasn't even transmissible between humans. lol
jergul
large member
Thu Apr 02 13:31:11
Forwyn
Your timeline is off.

But wielding shut door is exactly why China will do ok relatively speaking.

We may be willing to sacrifice some liberties for safety, but not to the point of giving emergency police and judicial powers to local neighbourhood watch comittees.

China did that. Local block Nazis wielded people into their apartments and they are probably still checking flats to find dead hot rods.

We are not willing to do that. I would shoot sammy and the block nazi before heading to the hills if anyone tried a stunt like that.
Rugian
Member
Thu Apr 02 15:41:11
Jergul

You're so far gone, its sad. Everyone here is saying that they believe China's case rate is lower due in part to deliberately manipulated statistics, and your response all alonf has been to address testing gaps (which is entirely unrelated to making materially fraudulent statement).

It's not the methodology we're discussing bro. We're saying the Chinese government is flat out lying to us. Address that.
jergul
large member
Thu Apr 02 15:59:10
Ruggy
If China wanted lower confirmed rates, then all it needed to do was test less and certainly, under no circumstances, use clinical diagnonis without tests to confirm covid-19.

The gaps in tests are what is filling up morgues with people not diagnosed with covid-19.

You are in other words saying China is lying based on nothing that is not true everywhere.

Of course morgues are full of people not registered as covid-19 victims. That is true globally.

jergul
large member
Thu Apr 02 16:02:28
We know for certain the China has inflated it covid-19 numbers by using clinical diagnosis instead of tests. It gave them a full 1/3rd more confirmed cases than is true for the way the rest of the planet calculates covid-19 cases.
The Children
Member
Thu Apr 02 16:37:18
chinas numbas r very accurate.

"Trying to cover it up and arresting doctors in the first month was very retarded of them. Seb level retarded. "

>> shut the hell up. u idiots cant even get facts straight.

he was never arrested. he was merely fined. they never put him into prison, thats what u idiots make out of it. becoz ur all lying cheatin fakenews bastarts.

The Children
Member
Thu Apr 02 17:23:16
"we have not received any report"
- trump

another FAKENEWS BASTURTPIECE EXPOSED.

butbutbut secret intell said said said. FU and ur fakenews bastarts.

Forwyn
Member
Thu Apr 02 17:48:03
"Your timeline is off."

Not by much.

The WHO was reporting no human transmission on Jan 14. By Jan 23rd foreign reporters were being turned away in Wuhan, and video was being leaked of houses being barred and welded by Jan 30.
hood
Member
Thu Apr 02 18:11:37
By the way jergul, its welded. Wielding is what you do with swords.
Pillz
Member
Thu Apr 02 19:42:06
Only people I know who are not ragging on China are my Chinese lobbyist friend and jergul.

Coincidence? No
Dukhat
Member
Thu Apr 02 19:48:49
LoL at all the cuckservatives suddenly trusting US intel.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Apr 02 19:49:05
Pillz pretending he has friends. Also hilarious.
Habebe
Member
Thu Apr 02 20:10:13
In my defense.

"Thu Apr 02 12:48:57
Probably true, but I'm also skeptical of US Intel anymore."
Pillz
Member
Thu Apr 02 21:05:00
Cuckhat still hasn't figured out how to use cuckservative.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Apr 02 21:09:54
Nice, thread on report from US intelligence, and nobody is even ranting about deep state, or how these are exactly the same people that brought you wmds, gulf of tonkin and a few other horrors
Pillz
Member
Thu Apr 02 21:18:45
Because unlike Iraq or Vietnam, China is a clear and present danger to us.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Apr 02 21:29:22
Not as clear and present as our dumbfuck president who had 3 months to do something and didn't.
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Apr 02 21:48:34
"Because unlike Iraq or Vietnam, China is a clear and present danger to us."

No shit?
jergul
large member
Fri Apr 03 01:36:46
hood
Ty. It looked wrong and I could never figure out why.

Forwyn
Terrible things were going to happen as soon as block committees were given emergency powers.

Pillz
I think you are ragging on China for the wrong things. The crackdown to contain the outbreak was pretty much a mini cultural revolution.
The Children
Member
Fri Apr 03 11:02:05
the only danger 2 da world are ur deepstate warmongerers.

nobody starts war except for ur country.
u bastarts have invaded asia and middle east but pretendin that china is da threat.
jergul
large member
Fri Apr 03 11:45:46
"On April 2, France reported 884 additional deaths that have occurred in nursing homes over the past days and weeks [source]. The French Government did not include these deaths in their official count, as their count only takes into consideration deaths of hospitalized patients. Following international standards of correct inclusion, our statistics will include these deaths, and will add them to the April 2, 2020 count following the attribution criteria of date of report.

If and when the French government determines and communicates the correct distribution of these additional deaths over time, we will adjust the historical data accordingly. A similar issue took place on February 12, when China reported an additional 13,332 new cases in a single day due to a change in how cases were diagnosed and reported in Hubei."

CNN
jergul
large member
Fri Apr 03 11:46:38
Shoot, not cnn. Notes from worldometer.
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