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Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Tue May 12 13:45:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWu-Lfs4WA

I find it hard to believe a Special Forces guy thought he could overthrow a government with just 13 guys.
Rugian
Member
Tue May 12 14:28:55
Im guessing someone really got into the story of Hernan Cortez and tried to follow his example.
Dakyron
Member
Tue May 12 14:40:39
Guessing he was expecting help, but it never showed. Either his fellow revolutionaries chickened out, or they were found out,
Habebe
Member
Tue May 12 14:48:31
15 milluon is a big bounty, i think the plan was to just kidnap the Maduro, but they knew about it ahead of time. Not difficult as the lead guy was bragging about it on Twitter prior to the event.
Habebe
Member
Tue May 12 14:50:40
Rugian,

1520 ,Jergul:" There is no way cortez could fight Montezumas finest Aztec warriors, they will likely take the spanish ships and conquer Europe"
Rugian
Member
Tue May 12 14:55:50
Habebe -

Followed by twenty posts touting the superiority of S-400 missiles against Spanish cavalry.
LazyCommunist
Member
Tue May 12 15:16:16
Your many coups never worked in Cuba, neither will they ever work in Venezuela.

Venceremos!
Forwyn
Member
Tue May 12 15:53:30
Get a hundred dirt poor farmers with AKs to assault a police station in the capital, SpecOps team moves in for the bounty/coup
Sam Adams
Member
Tue May 12 16:00:23
lol Baghdad jergul would for sure have stated the incan army was a virtual lock to defeat the conquistadors.

Because stone age civs aren't really that far behind iron age civs, you know.

lulz.
Forwyn
Member
Tue May 12 17:35:29
"Invaders will quickly find their armor is a liability, and be bogged down by swarms of invaders. Toledo steel is also vastly overrated. It will rust in the humid environment and become useless."
sam adams
Member
Tue May 12 20:27:08
"A mob with stone clubs is better than an armored phalanx anyway."

Haha
Habebe
Member
Tue May 12 20:31:20
Forwyn Jergul was spot on.
Habebe
Member
Tue May 12 20:31:40
Forwyn*
Habebe
Member
Tue May 12 20:31:56
Damnit add an S.
jergul
large member
Wed May 13 05:56:15
Gaslighting is all you got these days?

My thesis is and has always been that for as long as western forces have extreme casualty aversion, then it is relatively easy to deter attacks.

Any one of you asshats still think invading and occupying Iraq was worth it?

No?

I win.
jergul
large member
Wed May 13 05:59:51
Sammy
1520. Spaniards have died! We have to stay away from invading and simply stand offshore and shoot cannonballs into their coastal villages!
Rugian
Member
Wed May 13 06:34:59
Tenochtitlan Jergul: "La Noche Triste has permanently destroyed Spanish power projection in the New World. Also Europe will decline to 12.5% of global GDP by 1525."
Forwyn
Member
Wed May 13 08:54:33
If there's one way to find a cuck, it's someone who uses the term "gaslighting" unironically (and incorrectly).
Paramount
Member
Wed May 13 09:51:24
My guess is that Mr Trump planned it, and he thought 13 people would be sufficient because his friend The Saudis only used 13 something special forces when they attacked America.
jergul
large member
Wed May 13 10:24:11
Forwyn
Feel free to tell us what you think it means. I use it to describe systematic application of inaccurate information to cement negative sentiments.

Which is of course your only contribution in this forum. Mostly directed at Seb.

Ruggy
Try at least to get the historic mathematical understanding right. Tenochtitlan did not have a decimal system or even the concept of zero.
jergul
large member
Wed May 13 10:26:33
Oh, I am declaring 12.5 by 2020. At some point in the last months, US economic activity fell to that level.

Mission fucking accomplished!

Now maybe proceed with less of a bloated service sector?
Rugian
Member
Wed May 13 10:30:25
Jergul

Im just joking here. All kidding aside, I don't think you would have been pro-Tenochtitlan at all in 1520.



After all, the Aztecs weren't allies of Vasili III.
jergul
large member
Wed May 13 10:44:20
Ruggy
You equate critical thoughts on US policy with being pro something else.

You have an incredibly binary mind. If he is not rooting for my team, then there must be some other team he is rooting for.

Its more me saying the game itself sucks because the rules have been debased.
Pillz
Member
Wed May 13 10:58:45
Nobody is gas lighting you or Seb. You're both just unintentionally satirical, like Jezebel or those swj papers that get posted.

The fact that after 20 years of stagnation and even cultural degeneration on UP you both still post walls of text nobody but the two of you take seriously just makes you wordy caricatures at this point.

There's no reason to apply critical thinking when the only appropriate interaction to take with you is ridicule.

And while swordtail may have a perfect 100% Russian-only posting
Pillz
Member
Wed May 13 10:59:24
Record, you're clearly the biggest cheerleader on UP.

Have you ever not Sided with Russia or Putin?
jergul
large member
Wed May 13 11:19:54
For example my claiming that the annexation of Crimea was a far worse travesty than the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Iraq at least is to some extent reversible given enough time.

The problem you should be identifying is how batshit anti-everything not GOP you guys are.

Any dissent in your mind is treason.

This forum is interesting specifically because of its anti-bubble effects. I read stuff I might not otherwise have seen.

Your dogpiling, gaslighting, echochamberism is uninteresting precisely because it is repetative regurgerations of stuff I have already read 1000 times before.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed May 13 11:20:21
"Oh, I am declaring 12.5 by 2020."

Like most things you declare, you are wrong.

At no point was the us shut down while china and europe were not already shut down.
jergul
large member
Wed May 13 11:28:51
Sammy
I am correct. The shutdown murdered the service sector. Public employment and manufacturing suffered far less.

Next time, perhaps not run with a bloated service sector full of Mc jobs?

It add no value to anything for anyone.
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