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The Children
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Sat May 16 15:09:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP-iz9cS24o

EXPOSED!

Habebe
Member
Sat May 16 15:22:14
Thats the nickname for Wuhan these days?
Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 03:05:42
USA lies, people dies.

Why doesn’t the media investigate this thoroughly? The media's most important role is to investigate. They should ask questions so that those responsible feel the pressure to answer. The media should not settle for an answer like "it is classified".

If those who are responsible covers it up then this accident can happen again and again, and people will die.

But maybe the media in the US are afraid? Maybe they are being portrayed as ”the enemy of the people” and are receiving death threats for doing their job. So the ”free and independent” media becomes silent, and the rulers can continue to lie, cheat and kill.
Habebe
Member
Sun May 17 04:49:59
Probably has something to do with people of your credibility being the only ones believing it.
Habebe
Member
Sun May 17 04:55:34
Honestly TC I get, thats his whole thing is to be comic relief and absurd, not to.be taken seriously.

I feel like Paramount used to be taken seriously and no d of went down the rabbit hole latley.


Intervention intervention.
Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 05:02:52
Yeah, there is nothing to see here. Move along. It didn’t happen:



Deadly Germ Research Is Shut Down at Army Lab Over Safety Concerns

Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the military’s leading biodefense center.

Aug. 5, 2019

Safety concerns at a prominent military germ lab have led the government to shut down research involving dangerous microbes like the Ebola virus.

“Research is currently on hold,” the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases, in Fort Detrick, Md., said in a statement on Friday. The shutdown is likely to last months, Caree Vander Linden, a spokeswoman, said in an interview.

The statement said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention decided to issue a “cease and desist order” last month to halt the research at Fort Detrick because the center did not have “sufficient systems in place to decontaminate wastewater” from its highest-security labs.

But there has been no threat to public health, no injuries to employees and no leaks of dangerous material outside the laboratory, Ms. Vander Linden said.

In the statement, the C.D.C. cited “national security reasons” as the rationale for not releasing information about its decision.

The institute is a biodefense center that studies germs and toxins that could be used to threaten the military or public health, and also investigates disease outbreaks. It carries out research projects for government agencies, universities and drug companies, which pay for the work. It has about 900 employees.

The shutdown affects a significant portion of the research normally conducted there, Ms. Vander Linden said.
The suspended research involves certain toxins, along with germs called select agents, which the government has determined have “the potential to pose a severe threat to public, animal or plant health or to animal or plant products.” There are 67 select agents and toxins; examples include the organisms that cause Ebola, smallpox, anthrax and plague, and the poison ricin.

In theory, terrorists could use select agents as weapons, so the government requires any organization that wants to handle them to pass a background check, register, follow safety and security procedures, and undergo inspections through a program run by the C.D.C. and the United States Department of Agriculture. As of 2017, 263 laboratories — government, academic, commercial or private — had registered with the program.

The institute at Fort Detrick was part of the select agent program until its registration was suspended last month, after the C.D.C. ordered it to stop conducting the research.
The shutdown was first reported on Friday by the Frederick News-Post.

The problems date back to May 2018, when storms flooded and ruined a decades-old steam sterilization plant that the institute had been using to treat wastewater from its labs, Ms. Vander Linden said. The damage halted research for months, until the institute developed a new decontamination system using chemicals.

The new system required changes in certain procedures in the laboratories. During an inspection in June, the C.D.C. found that the new procedures were not being followed consistently. Inspectors also found mechanical problems with the chemical-based decontamination system, as well as leaks, Ms. Vander Linden said, though she added that the leaks were within the lab and not to the outside world.

“A combination of things” led to the cease and desist order, and the loss of registration, she said.

Dr. Richard H. Ebright, a molecular biologist and bioweapons expert at Rutgers University, said in an email that problems with the institute’s new chemical-based decontamination process might mean it would have to go back to a heat-based system “which, if it requires constructing a new steam sterilization plant, could entail very long delays and very high costs.”

Although many projects are on hold, Ms. Vander Linden said scientists and other employees are continuing to work, just not on select agents. She said many were worried about not being able meet deadlines for their projects.

Missteps have occurred at other government laboratories, including those at the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health. And in 2009, research at the institute in Fort Detrick was suspended because it was storing pathogens not listed in its database. The army institute also employed Bruce E. Ivins, a microbiologist who was a leading suspect — but who was never charged — in the anthrax mailings in 2001 that killed five people. Dr. Ivins died in 2008, apparently by suicide.

http://www...ms-fort-detrick-biohazard.html
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun May 17 05:03:45
”I feel like Paramount used to be taken seriously and no d of went down the rabbit hole latley.”

That is not true, Para has never been down fewer rabbit holes than now.
Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 05:07:43
Nope, nothing happened:


Army germ lab shut down by CDC in 2019 had several 'serious' protocol violations that year

FREDERICK, Md. — In 2019, an Army laboratory at Fort Detrick that studies deadly infectious material like Ebola and smallpox was shut down for a period of time after a CDC inspection, with many projects being temporarily halted.

The lab itself reported that the shutdown order was due to ongoing infrastructure issues with wastewater decontamination, and the CDC declined to provide the reason for the shutdown due to national security concerns.

READ: Army germ research lab in Md. that was working on Ebola treatment is shut down by CDC

ABC7 has received documents from the CDC outlining violations they discovered during a series of inspections that year, some of which were labeled "serious."

Earlier that year, the US Army Medical Research Institute had announced an experiment at the Fort Detrick laboratory that would involve infecting rhesus macaque monkeys with active Ebola virus to test a cure they were developing.

Several of the laboratory violations the CDC noted in 2019 concerned "non-human primates" infected with a "select agent", the identity of which is unknown — it was redacted in all received documents, because disclosing the identity and location of the agent would endanger public health or safety, the agency says. In addition to Ebola, the lab works with other deadly agents like anthrax and smallpox.

Select agents are defined by the CDC as “biological agents and toxins that have been determined to have the potential to pose a severe threat to public health and safety, to animal and plant health, or to animal or plant products.”

Here are some of the violations the CDC observed during inspections of Fort Detrick that year:

OBSERVATION 1

Severity level: Serious

The CDC reported that an individual partially entered a room multiple times without the required respiratory protection while other people in that room were performing procedures with a non-human primate on a necropsy table.

“This deviation from entity procedures resulted in a respiratory occupational exposure to select agent aerosols,” the CDC wrote.

OBSERVATION 2

Severity level: Serious

The CDC reported that the lab did not ensure that employee training was properly verified when it came to toxins and select agents.

“These failures were recognized through video review of laboratorians’ working in BSL3 and ABSL3 labs,” their report said. “[These] indicate the [lab]’s means used to verify personnel understood the training had not been effective, leading to increased risk of occupational exposures.”


The CDC went on to specify that a laboratorian who was not wearing appropriate respiratory protection was seen multiple times “partially entering” a room where non-human primates that were infected with [redacted] were “housed in open caging.” They also observed a laboratorian disposing of waste in a biohazardous waste bin without gloves on.

OBSERVATION 3

Severity level: Moderate

In this violation observation, the CDC went into more detail on the incident of the worker not wearing gloves while disposing of biohazardous waste, writing that “biosafety and containment procedures must be sufficient to contain the select agent or toxin.”

The corrective action they recommended was to confirm that relevant personnel have been trained to wear gloves to prevent exposure to hazardous materials.

OBSERVATION 4

Severity level: Serious

In this observation, the CDC notes that the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases had “systematically failed to ensure implementation of biosafety and containment procedures commensurate with the risks associated with working with select agents and toxins.”

The violation specifically observed involved “entity personnel [...] propping open” a door while removing “large amounts of biohazardous waste” from an adjacent room, “[increasing] the risk of contaminated air from [the room] escaping and being drawn into the [redacted]” where the people working “typically do not wear respiratory protection.”

OBSERVATION 5

Severity level: Moderate

The CDC reported that the laboratory failed to safeguard against unauthorized access to select against. They wrote that personal protective equipment worn while decontaminating something contaminated by a select agent had been stored in open biohazard bags, in an area of the facility that the CDC has redacted for security reasons.

“By storing regulated waste in this area, the entity did not limit access to those with access approval,” they wrote.

OBSERVATION 6

Severity level: Moderate

The CDC reports that someone at the lab did not maintain an accurate or current inventory for a toxin.

OBSERVATION 7

Severity level: Low

The CDC reports that a building at the Fort Detrick laboratory didn’t have a “sealed surface to facilitate cleaning and decontamination.” This included cracks around a conduit box, cracks in the ceiling, and a crack in the seam above a biological safety cabinet.

http://wjl...-army-germ-lab-health-concerns
Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 05:10:40
It is just a conspiracy theory:

http://www...trick-research-suspension.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/virus-biological-us-army-weapons-fort-detrick-leak-ebola-anthrax-smallpox-ricin-a9042641.html

Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 05:15:39
It may be that the US had the virus in July 2019 already. The US must be transparent, honest and cooperate with the world. Did the virus come from Fort Detrick?


Three Dead, Others Hospitalized In Virus Outbreak At Fairfax Retirement Community

This story was updated at 6 p.m. on July 16.

The Fairfax County Health Department is now reporting that three people have died following a respiratory virus outbreak at the Greenspring retirement community in Springfield, Va., and at least 63 people have become ill.

The health department says it doesn’t know how much the outbreak contributed to the three deaths.

Twenty-three of the 263 residents were hospitalized and 19 employees now say they are experiencing symptoms of upper respiratory illness, the health department says.

Residents in the continuing care neighborhood that have become ill are showing respiratory symptoms ranging from coughing and shortness of breath to pneumonia, according to officials.

http://wam...x-county-retirement-community/
Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 05:24:12
Virginia reports higher-than-usual number of respiratory illnesses

Maryland and D.C. health officials say they have not seen an increase in similar illnesses.

August 2, 2019 at 5:37 p.m. GMT+2

Virginia health officials have found that the number of reported outbreaks of respiratory illnesses this summer, such as one that contributed to the deaths of three people and sickened dozens more at an assisted-living facility in Northern Virginia, has increased by roughly half.

Jonathan Falk, epidemiology program manager at the Virginia Department of Health, said the number of such outbreaks this year rose to 19, compared with the dozen or so that normally occur in the period outside flu season. Several infections occurred in assisted-living or other long-term care settings for older people, such as an outbreak at Greenspring Village in Springfield.

Three people died, 23 were hospitalized and dozens more fell ill during an outbreak of respiratory illnesses that struck Garden Ridge, the community’s assisted-living and skilled nursing unit, between June 30 and July 15. The infection also spread to Greenspring’s staff, affecting 19 employees at the complex, Fairfax County health officials said.

It’s not clear why the outbreak occurred at Greenspring or why there has been an increase in reported cases around Virginia, health officials said. Neither the District nor Maryland has detected anything similar, according to state health department officials in those jurisdictions.

The increase in respiratory infections in Virginia prompted M. Norman Oliver, the commonwealth’s health commissioner, to issue an advisory last month to clinicians, alerting them to the increase, particularly in settings for long-term care. The July 19 advisory urged medical personnel and residential managers to take precautions, especially because of an imminent heat wave at the time.

“We were well above a dozen outbreaks reported in our system,” Falk said. “And that’s not even getting into the back-to-school season.”

http://www...-number-respiratory-illnesses/


Nope, nothing unusual here. Move along. If you wanna ask questions, ASK CHINA.
Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 05:32:39
” Neither the District nor Maryland has detected anything similar, according to state health department officials in those jurisdictions. ”


The US then brought this virus to China during the war games they had there, and then doctors and scientist in China detected this new American Virus and sounded the alarm.

Case solved.
Paramount
Member
Sun May 17 05:45:47
The US then claimed that they had the virus under control. And they cut funding to the WHO because they did not want the world to investigate the virus.
The Children
Member
Sun May 17 06:57:48
there had been many more flu cases around that area last year too.

also whats even more interestin is that botht he maryland outbreak is not that far away from fort detrick.

and get this.

NEITHER WERE THE ATHLETES/ SOLDIERS who participated in wuhan military games.

they were just 15 min away!!!

Habebe
Member
Sun May 17 13:44:48
So let me follow your "logic".

The US had leaked covid 19 in July and got it under control quickly and efficiently. Then it reemerges in China and now we can't contain it as well.

Mimd you all your claims are just taking criticisms of China nd placing them on the US because China is such a benevolent world power.
The Children
Member
Sun May 17 14:02:31
hababy once again with his peabrain.

no man, here is the theory right now.

corona is leaked.

it spread in july. it spread in surrounding areas.

it WAS NEVER discovered. thats the clue.

however since its a non dangerous disease, corona simply kept spreadin and most people simply didnt know they had it or mistook it as the cold or the flu.

finally it spread 2 the soldiers. they went to wuhan, participated but were too sick 2 perform.

ended last spot.

but they spread the disease to the french, iranians and chinese. and to the locals in wuhan.

french soldiers return home sick. and spread it in france (november)

wuhan locals started gettin sick (nov).

china identifies new virus, something usa was incapable of doing.

china locks down wuhan in january.

gets blamed by all u idiots.

Habebe
Member
Sun May 17 14:05:46
So why didnt it spread axross the US in July?
The Children
Member
Sun May 17 14:22:05
it did.

ur country just misclassified it as other diseases.

remember last years mysterious "vaping disease".

the rest were counted as flu.

2019 saw a huge spike in us flu cases, all brushed off as flu.

any attempts by american doctors to test these flu cases NOW for corona, is blocked.

why is this hababy.

u idiot.
The Children
Member
Sun May 17 14:28:06
yea, remember how the vaping disease suddenly appeared midway 2019.

blamed on vaping.

symptoms almost identical to corona.

but why dont any other country that have people that vape, have this vaping disease?

usa special or something?

The Children
Member
Sun May 17 14:33:44
http://www...ing-illness-tracker-evali.html

from ur own fakenews sources.

lmao look at its, its exactly the same as corona.

" Lung Damage

Patients with vaping-related lung injuries typically show up in emergency rooms with shortness of breath after several days of symptoms that resemble flu or pneumonia.

Below, a CT scan of a patient in Utah "

_______

the only difference is age.

corona mostly old peoples.
this vapin mostly middle aged peoples.

im guessing its coz its corona (they dunt show symptoms) but with the vaping added, it makes them sick.

here is another one. JULY 2019!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-gzm_sOM0

and look at the location!
its literally just an hour away from fort detrick!

u fuckin shittin me right.

u tryin to tell people how wuhan wet market and wuhan lab is close but somehow this isnt?


The Children
Member
Sun May 17 14:41:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-gzm_sOM0


guess what, they never identified the cause!
just 1 hour away from fort detrick!
symptoms similar to corona. shortness of breath, pheumonia etc.

u fuckin shittin me right. since when does the flu hit a retirement home in the middle of the summer!?

gtfo.

Habebe
Member
Sun May 17 14:52:59
So why didn't the baking disease hot the elderly especially hard?
Habebe
Member
Sun May 17 14:53:18
Baking = vaping
The Children
Member
Sun May 17 14:59:53
oh BTW motherfuckers,

its not ONE but TWO retirement homes.

first one was Spingfield

Second one is Burke retirement home.

BOTH located near for detrick (about 1 hour)

BOTH showed symptoms similar to corona which they blamed on flu or cold virus.

What flu or cold virus hits old people in the middle of the summer???

springfield had 3 deaths out of 63 infected. thats 5%!!!!!

does that number sound familiar? u bet, coz only corona has higher than 2%.

cold = practically none
flu = 20x weaker than corona at 0.1% fatality

so how did a flu virus cause 5% death rate in the middle of the summer.

alt rights OWNED!!!!!
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