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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 20 21:55:39
a thread for kargen to answer last thread question

& why he cares about Schiff saying there was evidence of collusion, but not Trump repeatedly suggesting Joe Scarborough is a murderer... or that Obama led some hoax/coup... or any of the many many many other criminal allegations made by Trump that have led nowhere & based on nothing or flimsy shit


...plus a thread to just post more Trump bullshit as kargen won't answer that question
kargen
Member
Wed May 20 22:09:24
you've been assuming nefarious for four years now.

Schiff took actual actions based on what he said. We had a whole hearing and everything. President Trump talked a lot. If Schiff had simply said a bunch of collusion things and left it at that I would give him the same pass I give President Trump. But no he had to go and act on his lies and deceit.

Remember when I told you what matters is what they do?

There I answered it. You won't like the answer and you will misrepresent the answer if you reply at all.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 20 23:08:12
so Schiff created the Russia investigation & appointed Mueller all on his own?

there was absolutely reason for everything

i don't even know what hearing you are referring to... i'll assume after Mueller as that's only thing i can think of that Schiff would've done related to Russia

Vol 2 is clearly written for someone else to take up the work, there is no other way to read it
'i (& DOJ as a whole) can't make the final conclusion, here's the evidence for those who can'

if you're talking Ukraine, that wasn't Russia at all... and Trump's behavior was wrong as even numerous R's admitted (ZERO R's would've said it was wrong if it was nonsense... ZERO... like exactly ZERO... no other number but ZERO)
kargen
Member
Thu May 21 00:18:10
I called that one.

You didn't come close to responding on what I actually typed. Not close at all.
hood
Member
Thu May 21 00:58:37
Trump's words are more harmful than any of the corruption investigations into his administration.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 02:11:12
i responded to exactly what you said

you haven't established any deceit by Schiff & didn't specify any specific Schiff actions so i guessed

Trump calling for arrests & opening non-existent cold cases & claiming illegal voting practices is action... law enforcement ignoring him demonstrates the absurdity of his 'presidency'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 12:08:52

"And I tested very positively in another sense. So this morning. I tested positively toward negative, right? So no, I tested perfectly this morning. Meaning I tested negative. But that's a way of saying it. Positively toward the negative."
~ you know who
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 12:12:08
i haven't seen the video... but i'm guessing he first said he tested positive by accident, then instead of admitting even the tiniest of mistakes, he made up that weird nonsense to explain why positive was the right thing to say

as he has done before... multiple times...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 12:29:20
“When you say per capita, there's many per capitas... it's like, per capita relative to what?”
~ our moron

http://twitter.com/JustinWolfers/status/1263459814442704896

so another term for the list of simple things he can't comprehend... like

- pre-existing conditions protection
- herd immunity = he just says "herd", the 2nd word is kinda important
- cyber <anything>
Rugian
Member
Thu May 21 12:31:50
He was clearly saying that "per capita" measurements depend on which denominating metric you are using.

Maybe you shouldn't criticize his apparently lack of intelligence if you cant comprehend basic concepts like that?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 14:05:13
there's been 'per capita deaths' & 'per capita testing', that's the only two 'per capita' figures that have been coming up

i don't have any more of his quote than what's there, but i'm sure it's stupid
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 14:12:18
speaking of which, not long ago he said:

“Germany and the United States are the two best in deaths per 100,000 people, which, frankly, to me, that’s perhaps the most important number there is.”

that was a total lie

we are not doing the best in per capita death

the President should be able to relay accurate info... maybe an occasional mistake that's corrected... but instead we get frequent wrong info that's NEVER corrected by him, he even sticks with it when he can
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 14:15:40
speaking of (^that) which...

"
But the one thing that is true, one way or the other way, whether you like it or not: It’s been around for 70 years. Unbelievably effective for malaria and for lupus, and probably effective for arthritis. And what has been determined is it doesn’t harm you. It’s a very powerful drug I guess, but it doesn’t harm you.
"

(said at a cabinet meeting, not twitter, if that makes it more real for kargen)

any doctors agreeing w/ that?

has Trump corrected it?

fuck Trump. fuck Fox News. fuck various R's in congress propping up this fuckwit.
Rugian
Member
Thu May 21 14:48:20
"fuck Trump. fuck Fox News. fuck various R's in congress propping up this fuckwit."

Nope. Fuck the Democrats for propping him up, since they're the ones making him look good by comparison.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 14:56:46
Trump is talking about our rampant voter fraud now at some event (& of course it's by D's not R's)

what a shithole we have

Trump keeps spotting all this criminal activity & no one acts on it

if you think he looks good by comparison to anyone anywhere you are nuts
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 15:01:38
Trump was asked what funding he's threatening to withhold from Michigan if they don't stop their mail-in ballot efforts

no answer... he has no idea i'm sure

hmm, withholding funds if they don't do what he wants... sounds familiar
Rugian
Member
Thu May 21 15:15:36
"if you think he looks good by comparison to anyone anywhere you are nuts"

Compared to the part of white man haters who want to take our rights away? Fuck yes hes better.

You accuse Trump of being incompetent. Very well, I'll take incompetence over competent tyranny please.
kargen
Member
Thu May 21 15:49:25
"if you think he looks good by comparison to anyone anywhere you are nuts"

There are many many people that look better than President Trump does. Unfortunately the Democrats have decided to go another direction and nominate someone much worse. I'm hoping a third party comes through with a better candidate than what the big two are throwing at us.
If all you are basing your decision on is mental competence and your choices are Biden or President Trump then Trump is your guy.

"hmm, withholding funds if they don't do what he wants... sounds familiar"
Yes it does. Sounds like what President Obama threatened a few times when he was trying to expand Obamacare. Or maybe how President Obama threatened to withhold highway and school funding from North Carolina because of their transgender rights law. Or maybe when he threatened to withhold federal funds to benefit his views on immigration.
Any president threatening to withhold funds is wrong. I'm not saying President Trump gets to do it because President Obama did. You asked if it sounded familiar and it does. I can even remember President Carter doing it to force states to lower the speed limit to 55 and when congress threatened to withhold funding during President Reagan's first term if states didn't raise the drinking age to 21.
Yes it is very familiar and it should not be.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 16:24:57
"Very well, I'll take incompetence over competent tyranny please. "

fine, as long as you acknowledge the incompetence

Joe doesn't seem tyrannical to me, but whatever

---

"If all you are basing your decision on is mental competence and your choices are Biden or President Trump then Trump is your guy"

nooooope

i'll just take your word for the withholding funding claims... i bet they actually knew what they were threatening to withhold though... and that they weren't throwing around false criminal allegations about it

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in ridiculous childishness news... Trump said he wasn't wearing a mask at the factory (where it was mandatory) because he didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing him in one

& it's not like it's his own administrations recommendation to wear one or anything

no other adult would have this problem... (the word 'other' not really needed)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 18:56:58
"Many will disagree, but @FoxNews is doing nothing to help Republicans, and me, get re-elected on November 3rd. Sure, there are some truly GREAT people on Fox, but you also have some real “garbage” littered all over the network, people like Dummy Juan Williams, Schumerite Chris Hahn, Richard Goodstein, Donna Brazile, Niel Cavuto, and many others. They repeat the worst of the Democrat speaking points, and lies. All of the good is totally nullified, and more. Net Result = BAD! CNN & MSDNC are all in for the Do Nothing Democrats! Fox WAS Great!"
~ unfit dictator child guy


is Fox News purpose to help R's get elected? isn't that supposed to be a secret?

also... they are absolutely a Trump/R propaganda network... they are the only thing keeping him seeming fit & acceptable to a large portion of the public by re-interpreting, hiding or joining in on all of his ridiculous insanity
kargen
Member
Thu May 21 22:05:12
"Trump said he wasn't wearing a mask at the factory (where it was mandatory) because he didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing him in one"
Honesty in a president (or any politician really) is so refreshing.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 22:11:08
yeah, 'honesty' is what i associate w/ him


...wearing a mask there was also state law, btw
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 21 22:33:17
here's Trump's 'positively toward the negative' noted above... i haven't seen any clips that start earlier
http://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1263523204045430790

i wonder if that'll catch on

'i tested positively toward the negative'... it's completely clear


semi-related, i recall once when he was talking about some guy & mentioned the guy's nickname but read it wrong, & instead of acknowledging it, he just said 'or' & read the right one as if both were the guy's nicknames (a firefighter or something)

plus obviously there's his recent 'noble prize' tweet where he couldn't admit it was wrong & went w/ a ridiculous excuse that it was all intentional... then days later posted same thing w/ the right prize name...

it's gotta be some aspect of his many mental illnesses, it's simply not normal
kargen
Member
Thu May 21 22:40:19
It was/is an executive order and there is no penalty for not following the order. Also the order was for food establishments and pharmacies. Also also the executive order was for employees and customers but the AG asked police to go easy on businesses that are now required to provide workers with masks as they might not have enough masks available.
So as it turns out the executive order doesn't apply to a visitor in a plant that makes cars. He still should have worn a mask though.

The executive order does have a provision that says people who can't wear a mask for medical or health related issues are exempt. So I suppose you can whip up some kind of conspiracy about the medical reason President Trump didn't wear a mask.
Habebe
Member
Thu May 21 22:47:35
You can add Michigan man of the year claims to this thread.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 16:19:17
the presser w/ the current piece of shit press secretary (CPoSPS) ended by her calling on the OANN 'reporter' who asked if Trump has considered pardoning Obama (to just make it seem established that Obama has committed crimes), then the CPoSPS put up slides she had prepped w/ questions reporters should be asking w/ the standard spin on 'Obamagate'

seems like probable collusion

also... we officially have our own NK pink lady... the CPoSPS seems to have gotten progressively worse each change, there is absolutely no chance of this one admitting any remotely negative thing & will push whatever bullshit Trump comes up with (not terribly different than the past ones but this one is a zealot... posting bible stuff on twitter along w/ her Trump love)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 16:27:07
i wonder if they're kicking around the idea of pardoning Obama as a final play for black voters or something... plus that would be an excuse as to why Obama never gets charged w/ anything, rather than their story being total nonsense
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 16:29:09
well, not just black voters... perhaps it would look like he was being magnanimous to stupid white women as he has a major women problem
kargen
Member
Fri May 22 17:11:18
Kind of like when Biden said he wouldn't pardon President Trump to make it seem established President Trump committed a crime?
Why didn't you get all bent out of shape then?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 17:37:40
a) Biden was asked the question by a voter, not a propaganda network plant

b) Trump is already involved in multiple investigations (real ones)... he was individual-1 in the Cohen case & more guilty than Cohen, he committed obstruction of justice via Mueller Vol 2, & there are multiple other investigations ongoing

c) this is what Biden said:
"It is not something the president is entitled to do, to direct a prosecution or decide to drop a case. It's a dereliction of duty."


massively different, i'd say

meanwhile, Trump is trying to manufacture criminal cases against multiple people
kargen
Member
Fri May 22 17:44:23
why does it matter who asked the question? Are you saying the person asking if Trump would pardon Biden isn't a voter? Are you under the impression a voter at a town hall can't be fed a question?

show me those convictions.

what the hell does C have to do with anything?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 21:30:26
it shows he knows and is talking about unresolved criminal investigations of Trump

Trump can't even name the crime he's accusing Obama of
(and even corrupt AG Barr said he's not anticipating any criminal investigation of Obama or Biden from the Durham investigation)
Habebe
Member
Fri May 22 21:38:34
So whats the deal with man of the year in michigan? De Trump jist randomly make that up? Ive been looking around andnit seems he either made it up or thinks it happened and didn't .
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 21:58:47
"man of the year in michigan? De Trump jist randomly make that up?"

yes... he made it up... has repeatedly claimed it, has been repeatedly fact checked as false... Trump is a fucking delusional liar

(i didn't realize he claimed it yet again at that visit, but not surprising)

=========

the OANN 'reporter' actually did name crimes...

http://twitter.com/Bakari_Sellers/status/1263950885559906305

"...pardoning Obama for illegally wiretapping Trump Tower & illegally spying on US citizens & other potential crimes..."

the CPoSPS did -not- respond with 'what the fuck are you talking about?' instead she had pre-made slides about 'Obamagate'

Obama illegally wiretapping Trump Tower was a bullshit claim by Trump from years ago... not even sure what nonsense that's supposed to refer to... the 'illegal spying' is probably Carter Page or Flynn, neither determined to be illegal afaik, & certainly wouldn't be Obama being charged, he wasn't the one issuing FISA applications & Flynn wasn't illegally spied on, the Russian ambassador was properly spied on & Flynn kept talking to him

that 'reporter' also breaks the rules of the White House Correspondents Association, but i'm sure she'll be there every single time to feed questions as needed
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 22:09:14
and for those happy about Trump's calling most media fake news / enemy of the people, OANN is who he is trying to steer people to... if you know nothing about OANN, that question by that 'reporter' is all you need to know (+ it's where Sarah Palin had a show)

Trump always has positive promotion of them

Fox News he gets angry at if they have any Dems on or show bad poll numbers for him or when Cavuto cracks & can't take his ridiculous unfitness anymore periodically... probably no chance of that stuff on OANN
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 22 22:27:01
"
3 years ago, after Jeff Sessions recused himself, the Fraudulent Mueller Scam began. Alabama, do not trust Jeff Sessions. He let our Country down. That’s why I endorsed Coach Tommy Tuberville (@TTuberville), the true supporter of our #MAGA agenda!
"
~ shitbag liar child fraud etc



the lil punching bag finally grew a tiny testicle though:
".@realdonaldtrump Look, I know your anger, but recusal was required by law. I did my duty & you're damn fortunate I did. It protected the rule of law & resulted in your exoneration. Your personal feelings don't dictate who Alabama picks as their senator, the people of Alabama do."
~ Jeff Sessions
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 00:56:47
apparently this is all a global conspiracy to make Trump look bad... so, take off your mask & vote R...(according to the GOP chairwoman of a Texas county):
http://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1263937751872868353

and that county isn't like 120 people like i expected... it's 1,714,773 people (16th-most populous county in the nation)

w/ ~45% Republican voting record
Average Ameriacn
Member
Sat May 23 13:02:23
Proof that the Corona crisis is over and we all can return to a normal life:
http://www...ds-saturday-at-his-golf-course
Returning to a new normal: Trump spends Saturday at his Virginia golf course
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 13:09:05
i wonder if Trump will have sparked any violence tomorrow at churches by claiming he will overrule any governors who don't allow them to open
(when he doesn't seem to have that power)

so angry Trumper christians could start rioting by thinking Trump has overruled governors when they head to a church & find it still closed
Rugian
Member
Sat May 23 13:12:39
What reason is there for churches to have more restrictions on them than businesses?

To the extent any conflict breaks out over that issue, it will be 100% the fault of the shitbag governors who hate the 1st Amendment.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 15:07:13
is there a state w/ more restrictions on churches than all other all businesses? i haven't been paying much attention to it... seems more like a non-issue that Trump wants to whip up into major controversy as he loves causing division

--------------

possible VP candidate since Pence is dead weight:
http://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1263935118697062401
not sure how he arrived at 0.05% chance of infection... i'll assume he divided current known cases by population (wrongly, as that yields 0.5%, plus not an accurate way to determine chance of infection)

'chicom' means chinese communist (i had to look it up), probably derogatory (seems meant that way anyway :p)
Rugian
Member
Sat May 23 15:23:21
tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat May 23 15:07:13
is there a state w/ more restrictions on churches than all other all businesses? i haven't been paying much attention to it.

I'm not surprised that you wouldnt be aware of it. CNN hasn't been covering it after all.

California

http://www...restrictions-churches-n1210926

Virginia

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/right-worship-church-state-clash-over-religious-services-coronavirus-era-n1201626

Minnesota

http://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/05/21/minnesota-catholic-lutheran-defy-walz-reopen-coronavirus/

I can keep going if you like. I realize that it's not popular in establishment media to defend the rights of religious people, but theres a lot of anger that's been growing here. Trump is just giving those people a voice.
CrownRoyal
Member
Sat May 23 15:35:57
"What reason is there for churches to have more restrictions on them than businesses? "

Rugian is correct. There is no reason to treat churches differentry than other businesses. Since it is a business. I don't know what category of business, I'd pick entertainment but whatever. And in current situation, churches should be permitted to open when all other businesses in that category are allowed to reopen. So once movie theaters are allowed to reopen, for example
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 15:38:11
-from your California article:

"In-person religious services, along with hair and nail salons and movie theaters, aren't eyed until stage three, and even then, there will be limits on the size of gatherings, according to published materials on the plan."


- from your Virginia article:

"As in several of the cases, a federal judge in Virginia ruled against the church earlier this month, saying Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam's social-distancing order did not single out religious practices for discriminatory treatment but instead prohibits "all social gatherings of more than 10 individuals, secular and religious.”"


- from your Minnesota article:

"Leaders of two of Minnesota’s largest faith groups are planning to resume indoor worship services next week in defiance of the governor’s order, saying it’s “extreme and prejudicial” to put religious gatherings in a reopening category similar to that of tattoo parlors or hair salons and subject them to limits stricter than those placed on retail stores."

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so all ^those suggest churches not put beneath all other businesses

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"but theres a lot of anger that's been growing here. Trump is just giving those people a voice."

do all these places meet 'the president's guidelines for reopening'?... i hope one day we find out what president that was


but for the record, i'd be fine w/ it all being recommendations rather than mandatory & i would imagine it's moving in that direction
Rugian
Member
Sat May 23 15:39:37
^it's a real mystery why the religious right has broken so hard for Trump, when the opposition is full of attitudes like this one
Rugian
Member
Sat May 23 15:41:15
tw

Your own quotes suggest they ARE being discriminated against. What are you on about?
Rugian
Member
Sat May 23 15:44:31
"In-person religious services...aren't eyed until stage three,"

"the state improperly discriminated by insisting the church permit no more than 10 people to attend services while allowing businesses to accommodate larger groups"

"religious gatherings...[are] subject [to] to limits stricter than those placed on retail stores."

tumbleweed: "don't see any discrimination there lol"

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 15:50:36
you claimed "What reason is there for churches to have more restrictions on them than businesses?"

i asked if there was a state w/ more restrictions on churches than -all- (other) businesses

they appear to be getting lumped in w/ movie theaters, salons, tattoo parlors (& perhaps other things) based on those articles, thus NOT more restricted

movie theater seems very apt as it's people sitting in rows
Rugian
Member
Sat May 23 15:58:29
Problem is that freedom of religion is a First Amendment issue. Last time I checked, that puts them slightly above tattoo parlors and salons in the pecking order.

Here's another example...Kansas:

"...two churches in Kansas reached a settlement with Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly after they sued over her 10-person limit for religious services and a federal judge had ruled the state appeared to have "singled out" religious activities for "stricter treatment." Now, the churches can hold those services so long as they abide by protocols for businesses and other establishments, such as providing hand sanitizer and face masks and requiring proper social distancing."

Heck, how about a fifth...Kentucky:

"Federal judge rules all Kentucky churches can have in-person services starting this Sunday"

(note also that Kentucky was the state that infamously handed out tickets for parishioners attending DRIVE-IN religious services on Easter Sunday...meanwhile no such penalties for shopping at your local Wal Mart)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 16:18:22
well thank Trump for Kansas having a Dem governor... was an R before 2018... and heavy R voters

i would assume the Kansas restrictions were NOT specific only to churches just like the other states... the "so long as they abide by protocols for businesses and other establishments" probably refers to the ones w/ least restrictions

& i'll guess same for Kentucky for that matter


also, i don't believe Trump cited first amendment, i believe he went w/ the argument that they are 'essential' businesses (thus deserved the favored treatment)


some Trump comments:
"We want our churches open. We want our places of faith, synagogues — we want them open. And that’s going to start happening. I consider them essential, and that’s one of the things we’re saying. We’re going to make that essential."
&
“Governors need to do the right thing and allow these very important essential places of faith to open right now — for this weekend”


so if this is a simple first amendment issue, why not go w/ that rather than threaten a non-existent power of his?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 16:30:23
seems like a creepy notice being sent from Trump campaign to his fan(atics):

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYuzeNBWoAAT2-2?format=jpg

tell them he's angry w/ them (in first person) & demand maximum money from them... i imagine he'd happily drain the life savings of every fan(atic)

keep in mind they are known to be stupid & gullible in general

(no offense to anyone here :p... you people have your reasons i guess)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 23 23:29:10
"A blow to her head? Body found under his desk? Left Congress suddenly? Big topic of discussion in Florida...and, he’s a Nut Job (with bad ratings). Keep digging, use forensic geniuses!"
~ the President of the United States continuing his baseless murder accusation


according to a quickly googled fact check:
"
An autopsy revealed that Klausutis had an undiagnosed heart condition and a coroner concluded she passed out and hit her head as she fell. The coroner said the head injury caused the death, but she wasn’t struck by another person.

The death occurred a month after Scarborough announced he was leaving office.

Scarborough was in Washington when Klausutis died.
"

& i've found nothing suggesting it was 'his' desk that i can find, i've seen "her desk" or "a desk"

===

i mean i'm sure Trump looked into those things extensively before making his accusations, but nevertheless, i think i'll trust that fact check & my brief skimming

ABSURDLY UNFIT
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 25 02:30:06
in response to Trump's renewed attacks on Jeff Sessions, Ann Coulter has called Trump "idiot-boy" & "the most disloyal actual retard that has ever set foot in the Oval Office"


nice to see there's common ground to be had
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 25 03:00:58
hooray, another Devin Nunes stunt...

Devin Nunes says he will be sending out criminal referrals against the Mueller Team
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1264711787884081152
Habebe
Member
Mon May 25 05:09:23
Anne Coulter has been critical.of Trump for a while. Mainly due to notngetting enough of the wall built.

Also since I slipped a rip.out of place a few days ago and have. Since had the time to beat ALL three Castlevanias on NES and conquest of the crystal palace to boot.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 25 12:00:24
congrats


today the mentally-ill child is threatening to pull the Republican convention out of North Carolina unless the governor can guarantee the "the space will be allowed to be fully occupied"... i guess he hasn't heard of the pandemic

crowd size!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jergul
large member
Mon May 25 12:55:48
tw
Its about an excuse to move to somewhere battlegroundy. Trump surely feels his personal presence can tip the balance.

Which is why Pence mentioning Texas was interesting. What is internal polling telling the GOP about Texas the rest of us don't know yet?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 25 14:49:52
typically red Texas isn't a guarantee anymore, same for Georgia

if sanity is restored Trump will lose every state
Habebe
Member
Mon May 25 14:58:37
Yeah, I seen the NC thing...

Probably a bad idea.
Rugian
Member
Mon May 25 15:04:44
jergul
large member Mon May 25 12:55:48
tw
Its about an excuse to move to somewhere battlegroundy.

NC is a battleground state.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 25 16:33:28
it's also an empty Trump threat to just try to make demands

standard childish negotiating... threatening to take his ball & go home (i think it's even in one of 'his' books)

============

'it's looking like Russia actually preferred Hillary over Trump'
~Hannity (on radio show)... i accidentally heard a few seconds... he was hyping Obamagate nonsense as i imagine he does continuously

Habebe
Member
Mon May 25 16:57:16
Rugian,I sense a discussion about Fla coming on. Jergul is sexually attracted to Florida.
jergul
large member
Mon May 25 17:06:28
habebe
Not for now. The GOP has more roads to victory than securing Florida. Tons of States are in play.
jergul
large member
Mon May 25 17:09:32
Ruggy
Not very many electors in NC. Pence mentioning Texas was interesting. What is their internal polling telling them?
Habebe
Member
Mon May 25 17:10:51
Tbh, I havnt looked at many polls latley so I dont know whats going on with the state's. I seen Bidens basement strategy had him up a steady lead nationwide so far.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 25 18:41:14
"Sean Parnell is an American Hero. Connor Lamm has proven to be an American fraud, and a puppet for Crazy Nancy Pelosi. He said he would NOT vote for her for Speaker, and did. Will kill 2A. Voted to impeach (on nothing)."

- Conor Lamb is the guy's properly spelled name
- he did NOT vote for Pelosi as Speaker
- obviously he won't kill the 2nd Amendment
- how is he a fraud?


Trump is disgusting filth... there's no reason to think he even misread something about voting Pelosi... he just MAKES STUFF UP on a regular basis

no one should support him... no one... if you don't like the Dems, find someone else... a mature adult who can state an accurate piece of information... realllly low bar shit
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon May 25 23:00:20
"HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY!" appears to be the only message Trump will be giving about this day on Twitter

he also had a "HAPPY GOOD FRIDAY TO ALL!" on that day

an amazingly stupid person
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 11:54:35
"
The opening of a Cold Case against Psycho Joe Scarborough was not a Donald Trump original thought, this has been going on for years, long before I joined the chorus. In 2016 when Joe & his wacky future ex-wife, Mika, would endlessly interview me, I would always be thinking....

....about whether or not Joe could have done such a horrible thing? Maybe or maybe not, but I find Joe to be a total Nut Job, and I knew him well, far better than most. So many unanswered & obvious questions, but I won’t bring them up now! Law enforcement eventually will?
"
~ the President continuing his baseless murder accusation & request for law enforcement to investigate... yet they will ignore the President b/c everyone knows he's a lying shitbag... as is totally normal & acceptable

(& pretending he's not bringing up questions... i can't understate how much i hate this 'man')
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 12:00:58
"
There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed. The Governor of California is sending Ballots to millions of people, anyone...

...living in the state, no matter who they are or how they got there, will get one. That will be followed up with professionals telling all of these people, many of whom have never even thought of voting before, how, and for whom, to vote. This will be a Rigged Election. No way!
"
~asshole


remember when i said Trump would say the election was rigged w/ massive fraud voting? cause i did (not that it just started w/ that tweet)

& we'll get another 5+ months of this, safe to say the majority of his fans won't accept the results if he loses after being pounded w/ claims of fraud voting

& perhaps setting up his excuse for losing popular vote massively again, as can't imagine he thinks California in play (although they -did- try to pretend he was turning California red w/ that 'flipped a district for first time in 20 whatever years' nonsense)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 12:11:39
"
Mr. Dorsey: [head of Twitter]

Nearly 19 years ago, my wife, who had an undiagnosed heart condition, fell and hit her head on her desk at work. She was found dead the next morning. Her name is Lori Kaye Klausutis and she was 28 years old when she died. Her passing is the single most painful thing that I have ever had to deal with in my 52 years and continues to haunt her parents and sister.

I have mourned my wife every day since her passing. I have tried to honor her memory and our marriage. As her husband, I feel that one of my marital obligations is to protect her memory as I would have protected her in life. There has been a constant barrage of falsehoods, half-truths, innuendo and conspiracy theories since the day she died. I realize that may sound like an exaggeration, unfortunately it is the verifiable truth. Because of this, I have struggled to move forward with my life.

The frequency, intensity, ugliness, and promulgation of these horrifying lies ever increases on the internet. These conspiracy theorists, including most recently the President of the United States, continue to spread their bile and misinformation on your platform disparaging the memory of my wife and our marriage. President Trump on Tuesday tweeted to his nearly 80 million followers alluding to the repeatedly debunked falsehood that my wife was murdered by her boss, former U.S. Rep. Joe Scarborough. The son of the president followed and more directly attacked my wife by tweeting to his followers as the means of spreading this vicious lie.

I’m sure you are aware of this situation because media around the world have covered it, but just in case, here it is:

My request is simple: Please delete these tweets.

I’m a research engineer and not a lawyer, but I’ve reviewed all of Twitter’s rules and terms of service. The President’s tweet that suggests that Lori was murdered — without evidence (and contrary to the official autopsy) — is a violation of Twitter’s community rules and terms of service. An ordinary user like me would be banished from the platform for such a tweet but I am only asking that these tweets be removed.

I am now angry as well as frustrated and grieved. I understand that Twitter’s policies about content are designed to maintain the appearance that your hands are clean you provide the platform and the rest is up to users. However, in certain past cases, Twitter has removed content and accounts that are inconsistent with your terms of service.

I’m asking you to intervene in this instance because the President of the United States has taken something that does not belong to him — the memory of my dead wife — and perverted it for perceived political gain. I would also ask that you consider Lori’s niece and two nephews who will eventually come across this filth in the future. They have never met their Aunt and it pains m eto think they would ever have to “learn” about her this way.

My wife deserves better.

Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Sincerely,

Timothy J. Klausutis, Ph.D
"


fucking ridiculous that it's the PRESIDENT doing this shit... please cite his evidence that Joe murdered her (he's given none, he posted an article from a shit website that cited the supervisor of the medical examiner donated to Joe's campaign - wow... - & other equally meaningless 'evidence')

TOTALLY FUCKING RIDICULOUS

notice it

if you vote for this absurdity you are definitely part of the problem & definitely harming the country... this isn't about political views
Rugian
Member
Tue May 26 12:16:10
"this isn't about political views"

Completely wrong. Stopping socialism > coddling Psycho Joe's feelings.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 12:33:03
yeah, like his baseless murder accusations are the only problem...

and do you want to even offer a defense for it? is there compelling evidence Trump has offered? what respected adult is joining Trump is this kind of thing?

i'm sure kargen will go w/ 'tweets don't matter' nonsense... he views a president as only what he puts his giant marker signature on apparently
Rugian
Member
Tue May 26 12:43:22
It's very clear that you and I have very different definitions of "respected" people. You esteem guys that have had Americans assassinated abroad and think they outrank the president in terms of setting policy.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 13:18:03
just name anyone who is joining Trump in his ridiculous claims

of the ~20 other R candidates in 2016, who among them might also be accusing Joe of murder?... who among them would be telling people to take hydroxychloroquine as it can't harm you & 'what the hell do you have to lose' & claiming it helps protect you from the virus based on phone calls he's received... who among them would take Putin's word over our intel agencies (plus like Putin's idea of Russia joining our cyber security unit, plus like Putin's idea of Russia joining the investigation of election interference)... plus be easily manipulated by Saudis, China, North Korea, Israel... & love incompetent leaders like Brazil's while attacking all our traditional allies... (& barely scratching the surface here)

i'd take Alex Jones over Trump... as he presumably can be serious when not doing his show

Trump is the same quality as an in-character Alex Jones... possibly worse
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 13:36:53
here's how Trump's 'wall' is coming along, i'm sure Trump will relay it accurately:

http://pbs...kAIsthA?format=jpg&name=medium

replaced 167 miles of fencing
created 3 new miles of fencing

replaced 11 miles of secondary barriers
created 13 new miles of secondary barriers

Mexico has paid for none of it


promises made. promises 'kept'.
Habebe
Member
Tue May 26 13:43:07
In all fairness, that's ome promise id rather not see fufulled.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 15:24:21
it was his #1 promise... that & banning muslims is what galvanized his cultists & separated him from the rest

------

Kayleigh McEnany (CPoSPS) claims it's "peculiar" that Biden was wearing a mask in public but not when in his basement w/ his wife

good to see the administration understands the recommendations it's putting out
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 15:55:14
here's Trump reading about a reduction in insulin pricing for seniors... & given he's a mental child, this thought pops into his head:
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1265381896600424448

that boy ain't right
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 17:36:26
[re-posting here to keep the record orderly :p]

“I’m sure that, ultimately, they want to get to the bottom of it and it’s a very serious situation,” Trump told reporters Tuesday, after saying he read the letter written by the husband of Lori Klausutis.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 17:41:31
Twitter added fact check warning info to Trump's claims of voter fraud... hopefully he will be humiliated if he's capable of it

http://twi...ump/status/1265255835124539392
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 17:52:09
on Trump's repeated murder accusations:

"
It's like an onion of moral and intellectual imbecility, with layer upon layer. You're the president of the United States. Grow the f*** up.
"
~ Ben Shapiro (a respected conservative... including by Rugian presumably, unless attacking Trump moves him to the RINO/trash pile as Trump would put him)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 18:42:56
Trump repeated the idiocy that he found it odd Biden was wearing a mask when outside but not when inside his home (& noted the weather was good... so that matters somehow in his tiny brain)


so not just a dumb answer thought up by the CPoSPS, but something they actually workshopped i guess
Rugian
Member
Tue May 26 18:56:46
"Ben Shapiro (a respected conservative"

Oh you sweet summer child. How little you know.

Ben Shapiro's biggest contribution to the world is his sister and her massive Khazar milkers. Other than that, he's just a betacuck establishment hack who shills for Israel. Fake conservative.

http://np....espect_for_ben_shapiro_donald/
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 18:58:45
"
.@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election. They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post....

....Twitter is completely stifling FREE SPEECH, and I, as President, will not allow it to happen!
"
~ the asshole idiot


they didn't even delete his tweets, just added fact-check info if you chose to click on it... plus Twitter is allowed to make whatever rules it wants
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 19:01:11
"
I hope all Republican House Members vote NO on FISA until such time as our Country is able to determine how and why the greatest political, criminal, and subversive scandal in USA history took place!
"
~ the asshole idiot


let's put the whole country at risk until Trump can corrupt someone enough to actually make arrests based on nonsense
Rugian
Member
Tue May 26 19:01:18
"fact-check info"

From CNN and WaPo. Two companies whose entire business model revolves around writing up content to satiate the anti-Trump crowd.

Fucking garbage move by Twitter.
Rugian
Member
Tue May 26 19:05:01
Even better - the CNN fact-check came from Chris Cillizza, the TDS lunatic who's spent the last four years of his life autistically documenting every single last statement made by Trump that he has a problem with.

Remind you of anyone?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 19:07:06
do you believe mail-in ballots will be substantially fraudulent? (they aren't new)

[i guess if it's his team planning to do all the fraud that's the only way he'd know it]

is the California governor sending ballots to anyone living in the state, no matter who they are or how they got there?


he's total complete garbage
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue May 26 22:17:06
“We always knew that Silicon Valley would pull out all the stops to obstruct and interfere with President Trump getting his message through to voters. Partnering with the biased fake news media ‘fact checkers’ is only a smoke screen Twitter is using to try to lend their obvious political tactics some false credibility.

There are many reasons the Trump campaign pulled all our advertising from Twitter months ago, and their clear political bias is one of them.“
"
~ Brad Parscale (Trump campaign manager)


Twitter banned all political ads months ago... so that's probably the 'other' reason...

gotta be a liar if on team Trump
Rugian
Member
Wed May 27 10:25:24
"Twitter banned all political ads months ago."

And why did they do that again? Oh right, because political ads are widely perceived to favor conservatives.

God it's ridiculous how stacked the deck is against the right.
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