Welcome to the Utopia Forums! Register a new account
The current time is Thu Jul 09 04:19:35 2020

Utopia Talk / Politics / official BS by delusional fraud POTUS#36
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 17:33:57
prior thread, kargen said: "My comment was an absolutely neutral response to a comment you made. You are the one that felt the need to defend Twitter. "


your comments have a habit of sounding just like Trump defender talking points so i took it as that (i'm sure if Biden doesn't get a fact-check for every Trump one it will be considered unfair even though Trump spews false comments like a fountain)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 17:36:27
& it shouldn't (just) be Twitter fact-checking Trump

every Republican should be noting the fat fuck is lying his ass off

not sure why Republicans think undermining total faith in elections will be be good for the country

or any of the other undermining he does... ALWAYS for personal benefit
kargen
Member
Wed May 27 17:39:43
Biden doesn't tweet like President Trump does. It would be unrealistic to expect the same number of fact checks.
Same percentage sure. Thing is there is no way we can know the number of fact checked posts. Isn't like Twitter gives a thumbs up to posts they checked and found to be true.
Rugian
Member
Wed May 27 17:45:21
tw is for mass surveillance now

Because Trump is against it

lmao
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 17:50:33
he's not against it

he's against what he perceives to have happened to him
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 17:52:12
"It would be unrealistic to expect the same number of fact checks."

well, Trump will disagree w/ this within a week
kargen
Member
Wed May 27 17:55:58
We don't agree on a lot of things though he hasn't personally called me out yet.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 18:03:43
here's Trump & his entourage
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1265732146787844096

if loyal to Trump, can't wear a mask... even though it's his own admin's recommendation...

so ridiculous

looks like even some grandkids subjected to it

only Ivanka rebelling, i guess as she knows their brand is being destroyed
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 18:12:50
"[Trump] is arguably the greatest president in our history.”
~host of a Fox News show

http://twi...ump/status/1265779391646187520
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 18:27:55
"
If the FISA Bill is passed tonight on the House floor, I will quickly VETO it. Our Country has just suffered through the greatest political crime in its history. The massive abuse of FISA was a big part of it!
"
~ the fucking moron

even if you think 'obamagate' is a real scandal... FISA was NOT a big part of it, ONLY used on Carter Page (a nobody that led to nothing & started nothing as he's a nothing, his family should disown him)

even kargen should care about this one as involves a signature, the fucking moron is making a decision based on faulty information
kargen
Member
Wed May 27 20:35:33
"The surveillance tools have long been a concern for Trump who believes the intelligence community improperly abused the FISA court to surveil his former adviser Carter Page. A Department of Justice Inspector General report found the FBI made repeated errors and misrepresentations before the FISA Court in an effort to obtain the warrants against Page. Meanwhile, progressives and libertarians also wanted more privacy reforms to protect individual liberties."

So President Trump has the same concern you have. And you thought you would never agree with him.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 20:52:11
Trump has not expressed his concerns like that (as he's a fucking moron) that's some adult reinterpreting Trump to make his views sound normal (as is necessary often)

"Our Country has just suffered through the greatest political crime in its history. The massive abuse of FISA was a big part of it!"
-those- are Trumps words, -that- nonsense is his concern

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 21:16:57
history:

"
Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
"
How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!
"
~Trump (Mar 2017)


& he has stuck to that bullshit narrative continually (as is typical for him)... grabbing & misrepresenting every fragment of info he could come across over the years

he completely misrepresented the IG report acting like it confirmed his stories when it in fact refuted them across the board... of course Fox seized on the FISA complaints as that was all that was in it to work with... it was not a lynchpin of the investigation, and it was not found to be politically motivated or corrupt, but you have to spin what you can

so Trump is -STILL- in that mode (more than ever really)

it's not like if you ask him to explain his problems w/ FISA he's going to say "Well, I feel they were a bit careless in their application on Carter Page and I need to see reforms done" (as any adult could do)

it'd be his standard 'THIS CAN NEVER HAPPEN TO ANOTHER PRESIDENT! OBAMA TARGETED MY CAMPAIGN! BIGGEST CRIME IN HISTORY!'

this is not a person who should be making decisions... on anything

(he had the same no-info on cancelling the Iran Deal btw... all he could state is 'we gave them $150 billion & got nothing' - which is a wrong & misleading figure, obviously, as Trump said it... plus he'd add the cash payment via plane that wasn't even part of the deal... that was it... he never said anything else about it)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 21:31:15
searching Twitter i see Trump mentioning Carter Page once in 2017 & once in 2018... then shows up a few other times when quoting other people

he doesn't want nobody Carter Page to be the focus, he wants it to be himself... i'm sure he doesn't even know that's who the IG report FISA issues concerned

(as he's a fucking moron who is unfit for office)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed May 27 21:54:18
in summary / TLDR:

Trump is attacking FISA to get revenge on something that didn't happen*
(& actually affecting policy, not just speaking)


*proof it didn't happen: i've asked it before & got no answer, but how in the fuck would fraudulently spying on Carter Page lead to removing Trump? especially since the premise is there was no reason to spy on him... they didn't frame him, so they just hoped he'd turn out to be a Russian spy? and even if they got lucky on that extreme long shot, then what? the most insignificant member of team Trump was a spy... so R's would then impeach Trump? that was their best plan of attack? that was what was worth crossing legal lines for? ... the story makes no sense, at all, none

they spied on Carter Page as he was shifty & suspicious in his Russia dealings, that story makes sense
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 12:30:11
"
Thank you to our GREAT Republican Congressmen & Congresswomen on your incredibly important blockage last night of a FISA Bill that would just perpetuate the abuse that produced the Greatest Political Crime In the History of the U.S., the Russian Witch-Hunt. Fantastic Job!
"
~ the fucking moron

you can tell he really understands what went on, right?

& Republicans once again sell out their own views to please the idiot king
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 12:33:11
and proof of that^

"
The swift move in opposition to the FISA renewal was all the more remarkable because the bill the House was voting on Wednesday was largely the same measure that passed 278-136 in March, with 126 Republicans voting in favor. Those voting yes included McCarthy and some of Trump's closest House allies, Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Devin Nunes of California, who had negotiated a bipartisan deal on reauthorizing the FISA provisions with Attorney General William Barr and Democratic leaders.

The only change made to the bill was the addition of a Senate bipartisan amendment from GOP Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and Democratic Sen. Pat Leahy of Vermont, which added additional legal protections and review to the FISA court process.
"
http://www...ics/house-vote-fisa/index.html

every Republican in the House is pathetic & worthless

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 13:10:39
mask-averse Trump said this:

"So many different viewpoints!"

in response to a tweet saying this:

"...masks aren’t about public health but social control. Image of Biden in black mask endorses culture of silence, slavery, and social death"

------

...it's his own administration's guidance...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 13:15:53
he also retweeted a guy who said "the news is fake" & "the only good democrat is a dead democrat"

so standard Presidential tweeting

(yes the guy, after getting some cheers, went on to say he didn't mean in a physical sense but a political sense... so 'the only good democrat is a politically dead democrat' i guess... i can see why he left it out, doesn't really work)
Habebe
Member
Thu May 28 13:19:21
The worst thing he has done lately I dont see much fuss over. Killing hibernating animals. I'm a hunter and I find this disgusting.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 13:32:13
that was a long time ago

outrage can last a few days at most as he'll have done some new awful thing by then
Rugian
Member
Thu May 28 13:52:55
This is why I honestly cant stand you tw. You think a bad bill should be passed just so Republicans can buck Trump.

Here's a thought. Maybe Trump changing the GOPs mind is a GOOD thing. Maybe hes being a force for good here in getting a bad bill struck down. And maybe I'd rather have DC change their minds on this bill now, rather than stick with their "principles" and maintain their support for bad legislation.

That's the problem with your perpetual "orange man bad" mentality. By focusing exclusively on Trump, you ignore the fact that DC has a lot of bad elements as well, and that Trump at least manages to be a force for disruption on that front.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 14:30:35
i'm not saying the bill should be passed or not

i'm saying the fucking unfit piece of shit has no business making decisions as he doesn't base them on factual information (& a regular occurrence)

btw, AOC is against the bill too... so Trump just sided w/ AOC because of his delusional & uninformed mentally-defective brain (& got his lockstep toadies to do as well)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 14:35:56
this has happened before... Trump defenders liking the choice he lands on even though he got there by completely fucked up thinking and different motives

this shouldn't make him a good President... even from your perspective
Rugian
Member
Thu May 28 14:36:53
And who DOES have any business making decisions? If it werent for Trump, that bill would have been passed. If Bush was in office it would have passed, if Obama was in office it would have passed.

People voted for Trump because they were dissatisfied with DC. But you seem to ignore that and just want us to revert to the status quo.
Rugian
Member
Thu May 28 14:40:11
Also I dont have a problem with AOCs positoon on mass surveillance (assuming shes against it anyway), it's the whole "let's abolish capitalism and implement a $90 trillion GND" part that makes her dangerous.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu May 28 17:36:04
"People voted for Trump because they were dissatisfied with DC. But you seem to ignore that and just want us to revert to the status quo. "

so it requires a mentally-ill fraud child to do this? no mature rationale adult who values factual info can do what you think is right?

(plus Trump reauthorized it before, his newfound dislike is ENTIRELY to propagate his nonsense narratives, & that's kinda hard to deny since he makes it quite clear every time he mentions it)
smart dude
Member
Fri May 29 09:53:56
CHINA!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri May 29 13:40:31
so the fucking moron said this late last night:


"
I can’t stand back & watch this happen to a great American City, Minneapolis. A total lack of leadership. Either the very weak Radical Left Mayor, Jacob Frey, get his act together and bring the City under control, or I will send in the National Guard & get the job done right.....

....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!
"

where he is -definitely- wanting looters to be shot by 'his' forces

the fucking moron took heat for it, so he did what he always does... lie his fucking ass off:


"
Looting leads to shooting, and that’s why a man was shot and killed in Minneapolis on Wednesday night - or look at what just happened in Louisville with 7 people shot. I don’t want this to happen, and that’s what the expression put out last night means....

....It was spoken as a fact, not as a statement. It’s very simple, nobody should have any problem with this other than the haters, and those looking to cause trouble on social media. Honor the memory of George Floyd!
"
~ pathetic disgusting disgraceful unfit liar
Dakyron
Member
Fri May 29 14:17:42
Id have more respect for him if he didn't backtrack constantly. Just own your stupidity. Double down on it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 30 12:09:05
"
Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis will never be mistaken for the late, great General Douglas McArthur or great fighter General George Patton. How come all of these places that defend so poorly are run by Liberal Democrats? Get tough and fight (and arrest the bad ones). STRENGTH!
"
~ weird shit the president says
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat May 30 12:16:48
"
Great job last night at the White House by the U.S. @SecretService. They were not only totally professional, but very cool. I was inside, watched every move, and couldn’t have felt more safe. They let the “protesters” scream & rant as much as they wanted, but whenever someone....

....got too frisky or out of line, they would quickly come down on them, hard - didn’t know what hit them. The front line was replaced with fresh agents, like magic. Big crowd, professionally organized, but nobody came close to breaching the fence. If they had they would....

....have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That’s when people would have been really badly hurt, at least. Many Secret Service agents just waiting for action. “We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and....

....good practice.” As you saw last night, they were very cool & very professional. Never let it get out of hand. Thank you! On the bad side, the D.C. Mayor, @MurielBowser, who is always looking for money & help, wouldn’t let the D.C. Police get involved. “Not their job.” Nice!
"
~ dictator child


sounds like he was petrified... & doing his best to scare off future protesters... plus probably why he's inviting his cultists tonight
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun May 31 12:26:54
"
Congratulations to our National Guard for the great job they did immediately upon arriving in Minneapolis, Minnesota, last night. The ANTIFA led anarchists, among others, were shut down quickly. Should have been done by Mayor on first night and there would have been no trouble!
"
~ Cpt Hindsight to the rescue again!

(it was the Governor who activated the Nat'l Guard... a mayor can't... & Trump had nothing to do w/ it even though he keeps pretending he did)

======================

"
The Lamestream Media is doing everything within their power to foment hatred and anarchy. As long as everybody understands what they are doing, that they are FAKE NEWS and truly bad people with a sick agenda, we can easily work through them to GREATNESS!
"
~ all shit that was ever shat reformed into a man
Rugian
Member
Sun May 31 13:05:00
Okay this is admittedly a bit over the line. For once I'm glad to see the media is calling out Potus over this kind of inflammatory language:

“That is not a protest. It is not a statement. It’s people, a handful of people, taking advantage of a situation for their own purposes — and they need to be treated as criminals,” said the commander in chief. “. . . A handful of criminals and thugs who tore up the place.”
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun May 31 15:33:49
his use of "thugs" has not been a huge issue that i've seen, plenty of other lies & incompetence to work with

=========

"
Law & Order in Philadelphia, NOW! They are looting stores. Call in our great National Guard like they FINALLY did (thank you President Trump) last night in Minneapolis. Is this what voters want with Sleepy Joe? All Dems!
"
~ mentally-ill child thanking himself for nothing

why does he deserve thanks exactly?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun May 31 19:07:18
"LAW & ORDER!"
~ from the 'leader' who brought us "OBAMAGATE!" & "WITCH HUNT!" & "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun May 31 20:06:26
above I said "sounds like he was petrified"

well, reportedly he spent an hour in a bunker under the White House that night... I'll guess at his panicked request
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jun 03 00:52:41
"
So pathetic to watch the Fake News Lamestream Media playing down the gravity and depravity of the Radical Left, looters and thugs, ripping up our Liberal Democrat run (only) cities. It is almost like they are all working together?
"
~ obvious dictator obvious child obvious fraud

so i guess time to send the military to wipe out the media? many people are saying they are the enemy of the people after all

(also... if any Fox viewers think CNN isn't calling anyone looters/rioters/criminals or showing them in action, they would be very mistaken)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jun 03 18:42:08
Gen. James Mattis:

"
In Union There Is Strength

I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled. The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind. We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.

When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.

We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “battlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.

James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law.

Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us…was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.

Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.

We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one another. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country. We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite.

Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad.
"

TLDR: Trump sucks & is like the nazis


hard to argue w/ "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jun 03 20:36:02
the pathetic child claims he only went to the bunker to inspect it

...as additional reporting says he was taken there after a barricade had been breached

it's so hard to decide whom to believe
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jun 03 21:33:33
the inevitable child response

"
Probably the only thing Barack Obama & I have in common is that we both had the honor of firing Jim Mattis, the world’s most overrated General. I asked for his letter of resignation, & felt great about it. His nickname was “Chaos”, which I didn’t like, & changed to “Mad Dog”...
"

Trump did not give him the nickname Mad Dog...

25th amendment time for the delusional child fraud who is insanely unfit for office
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jun 03 21:53:08
...also Mattis resigned, wasn't fired

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jun 04 16:48:53
so people familiar w/ Fox know that 'Fox & Friends' has the dumbest people on the network, & that Brian Kilmeade is the dumbest person on 'Fox & Friends'

so here's Kilmeade interviewing Trump, read & despair:

http://pbs...AIsbvg?format=png&name=900x900

compare Trump's 'answers' to the question asked
&
just consider Trump's 'answers' on their own to whatever question he thinks may have been asked

he is mentally unfit for office... as proven a huge number of times
kargen
Member
Thu Jun 04 18:02:11
Compared to Cuomo and Lemon on CNN Kilmeade comes off as some kind of super genius.
I know, I know, not much of a high bar in that.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jun 04 23:27:24
Kilmeade's stupidity isn't the issue, just surprising Trump could crush him at it... what's your opinion of the words Trump spoke (not tweeted)?... & it's not like it's atypical of Trump responses

============

speaking of which, Sen Lisa Murkowski (Alaska-R) said she agreed w/ Gen Mattis & claims to be struggling on whether she can support Trump in 2020 (a real sign of Trump being the greatest President ever as he believes)

so obviously, enter the child:

"
Few people know where they’ll be in two years from now, but I do, in the Great State of Alaska (which I love) campaigning against Senator Lisa Murkowski. She voted against HealthCare, Justice Kavanaugh, and much else...

...Unrelated, I gave Alaska ANWR, major highways, and more. Get any candidate ready, good or bad, I don’t care, I’m endorsing. If you have a pulse, I’m with you!
"


she didn't vote against 'healthcare'... but i'm sure Trump would not be able to explain it any better than that

& he didn't 'give Alaska ANWR'... he's referring to opening up drilling in the wildlife refuge... but again not sure he would know it

but anyway, put up any pro-Trump piece of shit & he'll endorse, as he just stated
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jun 04 23:40:11
corrupt AG Barr (who deliberately & provably misled the public on the Mueller report) is sticking to his claim that clearing the park had nothing to do w/ Trump's photo op

as he's a known piece of shit, it doesn't mean much but let's say there is some truth & maybe they -did- plan to clear out that area earlier in the day for unrelated reasons

well, it didn't happen... not until 5 minutes after Trump was set to speak in Rose Garden... kinda like someone said 'oh shit, they're still there' & the forcible removal happened... then amazingly Trump comes out (late) right when the clearing is finishing

there is simply no way in hell Trump was going to be walking to that church w/ those people there, so that -IS- why they were forcibly cleared at that moment

so corrupt AG Barr deliberately misleading the public again
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 15:00:56
“Hopefully, George is looking down right and saying this is a great thing that’s happening for our country. It’s a great day for him, it’s a great day for everybody.”

http://twi...CBS/status/1268920235706458113

pretty sure he's talking about George Floyd...

& i'll assume the 'great day for the murder victim' refers to the jobs report that he tweeted about around a dozen times... even noting biggest gain in history like it's his doing & not pandemic related
Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 05 15:38:17
"& i'll assume the 'great day for the murder victim' refers to the jobs report that he tweeted about around a dozen times... even noting biggest gain in history like it's his doing & not pandemic related"

If you had bothered to put that quote in its proper context, this wouldnt have been your conclusion at all. He was clearly talking about police reforms at the moment.

Hardly out of character to twist Trumps words to make him sound as bad as possible though.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 15:45:26
major police reforms have been implemented in this past week? ...it's not like he's been supportive of the protests...

i'll wait for the full transcript to be posted unless you know where it happened (he rambled nearly an hour it seems)
Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 05 15:55:35
Dude...do you read, like, any news that doesnt have Trumps name in it?

And here's the full quote if you need it:

“Equal justice under the law must mean that every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender, or creed. They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement. We all saw what happened last week. We can't let that happen. Hopefully, George is looking down right now, and saying 'This is a great thing that's happening for our country.' This is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody. … This is a great, great day in terms of equality.”

Doesnt sound at all like hes talking about the jobs report there...and you more than anyone should be aware of how Trump tends to cover multiple topics in his press appearances.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 16:06:16
still a weird thing to say, not sure it's a great day for George

also, he's reading words written by an adult for that first part (i don't even need to see the video to know it)... he can't adlib anything that isn't weird
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 16:38:12
well Trump tweeted the video out
http://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1268928869052100608

i maintain a weird thing to say, acting as if things have been solved

plus in regards to the first part which he had to read... other adults could say something like that without reading, it's not a complex thought... i'm not saying other Presidents wouldn't read speeches, just they'd be capable of saying stuff like that without reading & Trump is not capable of it... he has never & will never speak like that without reading it

[this particular George comment not a big deal to me, just found it funny/odd :p]
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 16:44:30
"
I am a big fan of Drew Brees. I think he’s truly one of the greatest quarterbacks, but he should not have taken back his original stance on honoring our magnificent American Flag. OLD GLORY is to be revered, cherished, and flown high...

...We should be standing up straight and tall, ideally with a salute, or a hand on heart. There are other things you can protest, but not our Great American Flag - NO KNEELING!
"
~ guy who called up the military to oust peaceful protesters & is trying to convince the public that the election is rigged & is fortifying the white house w/ additional fencing
Rugian
Member
Fri Jun 05 16:55:47
Minneapolis PD literally just today banned the use of chokeholds and instructed officers to intervene if they see their partners commit acts of abuse. Across the country people are talking about things like eliminating qualified immunity and cutting department budgets. Politicians at every level of government are proposing legislstion for various reforms. Thousands of people have marched across the country in support.

But yeah, nothing much is happening to suggest any changes are being made I guess.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 17:08:34
yeah, i'm sure Trump is well-informed & that's what he was referring to & not his general ignorant cheerleading that he always does

also why are there no tweets of support for the protests & police reform?

-------

semi-related, amongst his heap of tweets about the May jobs report are:

"Really Big Jobs Report. Great going President Trump (kidding but true)!"

(meaning he's not kidding)

and

"Greatest Top Five Monthly Jobs Gains in HISTORY. We are #1!" w/ a bar chart graphic


we lost -20- Million jobs in April, we gained back 2.5 Million in May... what in the hell is the relevance of comparing us to other months in history & claiming "we are #1!"...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 18:06:49
also... not only no tweets supporting protesters, only a focus on the rioters... he even retweeted a Don Jr tweet w/ video mocking media for saying "mostly peaceful protesters"... so if thinking it's crazy to call them "mostly peaceful" that means you are claiming they are mostly looters/rioters

which maybe Fox viewers think is the case

i'm quite confident >50% of the protesters have been peaceful
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 18:12:07
if i may be presidential for a moment, i'll toss out this rumor:

"
The gay internet is exploding over #LindseyGraham today.
An Army of gay escorts are claiming, Lindsay has used their services for years and are trying to figure out how to get around the NDA he has them all sign.
It is rumored that DC male escorts know Senator Graham as "Lady G"
"

*fingers crossed*
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 18:24:52
Sen Tim Scott (R) on CNN... 'Trump said he didn't know about clearing out the protesters & I have to take him at his word'


why in fucks hell would anyone ever take Trump at his word? how much more dishonesty does he have to display?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 19:38:12
hmm, seems when he went to sign whatever he was signing after that rambling that included George, he was asked about plans for racial justice or whatever and he cited a good economy.. so I will again assume that's what he was referring to as being a great day for George as the jobs report is all he's been hyping and none of what Rugian noted

and about that jobs report: an expert noted a lot could be from rehirings to take advantage of the modified PPP and not actually people going back to work (which makes sense). So only time will tell... yet makes it even more stupid to celebrate as being #1 (although that's pretty well maxed out on stupidness as is)
kargen
Member
Fri Jun 05 20:28:55
The black population in the United States is between 10-15%. Biden claimed 10-15% of Americans are just not good people. Given his past racist statements I believe we know what part of the population he is talking about.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 21:38:17
are you making another dumb mind-reading point?

I'm more sure than ever about Trump's "George" comments... it was 10am in the morning and he's saying -today- is a great day for him:

"This is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody. … This is a great, great day in terms of equality. "

the only thing he'd been touting (and done massively right before the event on twitter) that occurred today was the jobs report. Plus he says specifically 'in terms of equality'. Then when he signs the thing his response about plan for solving racism is that a good economy is the best thing for all races & and using the 'what's been happening' language. (He's never been talking positively about protesters or wanting any police reform)

that's at 47:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epvNjPYywts

believe whatever you want, this is low on the gigantic pile of evidence Trump is a mentally-ill fraud moron child
kargen
Member
Fri Jun 05 21:52:42
Are you accusing me of mind reading? That is your shtick.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 22:10:15
nope, it's yours actually... multiple times you've ascribed your own made-up explanations to Trump behavior that are backed up by nothing*, i supply reasoning & evidence to any assumptions i make (although Trump is not too hard to read)


*like when Covid briefings were ended after his humiliating idiocy & you decided it wasn't due to that, but just to create buzz & get media to cover them more fully or whatever
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 22:11:20
...and you decided Cohen did all the mistress payoffs on his own, w/ no knowledge by Trump, in hopes of getting a good job in the administration
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 22:14:18
Gen John Kelly (former Chief of Staff) agrees w/ Gen Mattis

remember the stream of people who left the Obama (or Bush or any) administration & said he was shit... i don't...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jun 05 22:28:54
Drew Brees response back to Trump:

"
To @realdonaldtrump Through my ongoing conversations with friends, teammates, and leaders in the black community, I realize this is not an issue about the American flag. It has never been. We can no longer use the flag to turn people away or distract them from the real issues that face our black communities.
...
"
<continues>
http://www.instagram.com/p/CBE4y_9Hj2S/?igshid=7ejunv7ktpcn


at least Trump still has crazy ass James Woods on his side
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 06 11:38:45
here's Trump celebrating that our median family income is $150,000

http://twitter.com/BadEconTakes/status/1268969244139548672

it is not $150,000... about half that

do not let this man ever speak off scripts written for him, his own thoughts are worthless... like literally, not exaggeration, nothing he says that he comes up w/ is right... it's ridiculous
www.yeswecansong.com
Member
Sat Jun 06 11:52:34
What will Trump say about that?
http://www...ssification-error-15320999.php

When the U.S. government's official jobs report for May came out on Friday, it included a note at the bottom saying there had been a major "error" and the unemployment rate likely should be higher than the widely report 13.3 percent rate.

The special note said that if this misclassification error had not occurred, the "overall unemployment rate would have been about 3 percentage points higher than reported," meaning the unemployment rate would be about 16.3 percent for May.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 06 12:13:38
a bad day for George
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 06 12:41:21
it seems Trump tweeted out a video of Candace Owens shitting on George, so i guess that fake George love lasted less than a day

perhaps he meant "a great day for everybody" because George was dead
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 06 14:57:58
re Trump's trip to a Maine swab factory yesterday:

"The running of the factory machines is very limited today and will only occur when the president is touring the facility floor," Virginia Templet, the company's marketing manager told USA TODAY in response to questions about the event. "Swabs produced during that time will be discarded."

so a wasted day for them

the maskless moron enjoying a swab:
http://www...-AP_Virus_Outbreak_Trump_1.jpg
resembles a Kim Jong Un visit, only looking stupider
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 06 21:30:37
"Wow! 96% Approval Rating in the Republican Party (and I believe this was before the “GREAT” Jobs Numbers yesterday). Thank you!"
~ delusional fraud

he's been claiming 96% in that poll he never cites for quite some time, so that "wow" is kinda strange... just more of his embarrassingly obvious fraud hype tactics
Habebe
Member
Sat Jun 06 21:52:23
At one point he was getting in the low 90s , leading to my favorite Trump headline.

" Trumps approval ratings in Republican party are so good they're almost as high as the numbers he seemingly pulls out of nowhere"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 06 22:06:50
he has steadily increased it over time, never once a dip

==========

Mercedes Schlapp, a senior aide to President Donald Trump, apologized for retweeting a video of a man running at protesters with a chainsaw while screaming the n-word.

The video, posted on Friday, showed a man revving a chainsaw while running at Black Lives Matter protesters in Texas shouting, “Go home! Don’t let those f—–g n—— out there fool you!” Schlapp retweeted a post praising the man, which remained up until Saturday evening — after Politico reached out for comment on Saturday morning.


tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Jun 06 22:54:45
^that chainsaw video seems to be gone (person posting it was @texan_maga on Jun 5 according to an article but i don't see it)

==========

as to his "9x% Approval Rating", i searched:

he claimed 93% Jan - Mar 2019 (tweeted 4x)
he claimed 94% Jul - Aug 2019 (tweeted 3x)
he claimed 95% Oct 2019 - Mar 2020 (tweeted 9x)
he claimed 96% Apr - Jun 2020 (tweeted 2x)


the origin may be:
"BIG CPAC STRAW POLL RESULTS: 93% APPROVE OF THE JOB PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DOING"
which he posted in 2018... not sure how accurate a CPAC straw poll is... but anyway he probably went w/ that number & has steadily added to it

this means it's almost certain he has the latest # he's using written on a piece of paper to make sure it never goes down... which is an incredible level of insanity

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 07 11:38:40
Jake Tapper asked Ben Carson why Trump felt the need to attack George Floyd's character & Ben said Trump would be making a speech on this soon & to hold judgment til then

so... i guess we're going to get a teleprompter speech of Trump reading words about racial issues that will not match anything he ever says, Fox News types will swoon over it, & Trump will tweet some crazy shit w/in a few days

as usual
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 07 11:49:52
"
Somebody please tell highly overrated Colin Powell that I will have gotten almost 300 Federal Judges approved (a record), Two Great Supreme Court Justices, rebuilt our once depleted Military, Choice for Vets, Biggest Ever Tax & Regulation Cuts, Saved Healthcare & 2A, & much more!
"
~ fraud

he had nothing to do w/ the judges (entirely Mitch), except selecting the 2 names of SC judges off a tiny list given to him (& all would've been equivalent)

Veterans Choice was signed by Obama 2014, the tax cuts written & passed by Congress, 'saved healthcare' - i don't even know what the hell he's talking about, usually i understand his lies, 'saved 2nd Amendment'... yeah, right, it was right on the edge of disappearing

so raising military funding is all that's remotely accurate... although he acts like our military was practically gone which is a lie

so basically 100% bullshit

(plus Colin Powell is another disgruntled RINO i guess)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 07 11:59:36
"Pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. It's not chemical"
~ corrupt AG Barr still trying to defend the dictator's assault on peaceful protesters so he could use a church & bible as a prop

http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1269649093392990208

i'm no chemist, but i'm pretty sure his comment is total bullshit

and Park Police already said was an error to say no tear gas used... as a broad term that includes the pepper stuff they use even in their own manuals
(also i never saw much difference whether it was pepper balls or tear gas... the point was peaceful people assaulted to clear the path for dictator child to do a photo op)
Rugian
Member
Sun Jun 07 13:53:09
Oh god, you doubled down on the George Lloyd thing.

"remember the stream of people who left the Obama (or Bush or any) administration & said he was shit... i don't..."

Gee, almost like the guy who was hired to be a swamp drainer gets along less well than his predecessors with the swamp creatures...big mystery why that is.
jergul
large member
Sun Jun 07 13:54:49
Trump has been hiring swamp monsters to drain the swamp?

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 07 14:11:42
exactly, they are his picks

plus there's the creatures he brought: Omarosa, Michael Cohen, Steve Bannon, & Scaramucci

who he has also had to all smear after they acknowledged his incompetence

i will acknowledge the people he personally brought are of far lower caliber than the others he's hired then attacked* (luckily, that's also a smear on Trump :p)

(* such as Rex Tillerson, Gen. Mattis, Gen. Kelly)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 07 22:14:21
"
Hmmm...well look at this. Obama just about admitted that the coordinated mayhem was all about energizing their base to get out the vote. Funny how that works! By any means necessary...

This leaves no doubt remaining that the Progressive Political-left Communists are willing to destroy and kill to achieve their goals? The ends justifies the means...

Every American better wake up. If we loose this country you will loose your life. If you're a Republican, Conservative, Democrat Trump supporter, etc. -- you will be murdered. You will be dragged from your burning home and be beat to death. This is a fact. This what they stand for ...
"
~ Jim Waurishuk
Chairman Hillsborough County Republican Party (Florida)
population 1,471,968 [39% D, 32% R]

i guess he read between the lines of Obama's speech

the GOP has such quality leaders

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 08 11:48:09
he retweeted the
"
Wow! 96% Approval Rating in the Republican Party (and I believe this was before the “GREAT” Jobs Numbers yesterday). Thank you!
"
yesterday


then tweeted this today:
"
96% Approval Rating in the Republican Party. Thank you!
"

(that's 3 days in a row)

so, all you cultists getting the message? his made-up numbers show him having nearly all R support, so don't waiver in the face of all the R's saying he's garbage & the horrible actual poll numbers coming out
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 08 18:07:36
"
Barr contradicts president's false claim that he went to the bunker during the day to "inspect." Barr confirms that it was in the evening, and in response to protests, in interview with @BretBaier
"
~ Maggie Haberman

aww... the fucking pathetic child liar exposed again, & by his own corrupt partner


here's the fucking pathetic child liar audio:
http://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1269411521987256320
Rugian
Member
Tue Jun 09 09:17:00
Time to put tw's spin powers to the test, let's see how he can make Trump look badly here:

"Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment.
@OANN
I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?
8:34 AM · Jun 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone"
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 13:40:51
i can't tell if you are joking


"could be an ANTIFA provocateur" ...as could be anyone in existence

"@OANN" ...OANN as source? yeah, good choice

"after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment" ...i don't know if that's is even a thing, but looks like he's just holding his phone to me

"I watched, he fell harder than was pushed" ...his fall doesn't look clearly exaggerated (whereas Trump is a constant liar & exaggerator)

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 13:54:58
since you made me look at Trump's twitter...

it seems another heavy flow day for him, so i may miss a lot of shit, but here's some of the shit:


he retweeted:
Seb Gorka (one of Trump's total trash people) saying “I’m not a Marine, but I know the Marines....Jim Mattis is no Marine.”
& added
"
Mattis was our Country’s most overrated General. He talked a lot, but never “brought home the bacon.” He was terrible! Someday I will tell the real story on him and others - both good and bad!
"

yeah, i'm sure that story will happen

===============

and tweeted Matt Schlapp (more garbage) saying:
"I will never buy another NFL ticket until they go back to playing football and stop dividing America."
so that critical issue of kneeling before the game ever starts is back

=============

regarding Minnessota:
"When I insisted on the National Guard, things got better FAST."

he never 'insisted' on Nat'l Guard, and he only recommended it after Governor already had ordered it (i was watching the news at that time, i can confirm it myself)

=============

lots of fear-mongering about 'defund the police'... and acknowledgment that Biden said he was not supporting it (after lying that he was... first was just flat lying that he supported it, then saying silence meant he supported it) but now that he's said he doesn't support it listing issues he allegedly flip-flopped on so implying he'll flip-flop

i'm quite confident police will not be banned

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 14:01:02
& in regards to the "could be antifa" person

Trump also declared a protester to be ISIS because someone added Arabic writing to one of the guy's Youtube videos

leading to Trump's excellent defense of "all I know is what's on the internet" rather than apologizing for putting some guy's life in danger for publicly calling him ISIS (multiple times) based on nothing

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 14:18:36
here's the quality OANN piece the 'president' watched:
http://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1270336679501594624

the evidence of him being Antifa seems to be that he was "appearing to use common antifa tactics"... please expound...

& the evidence of him using his phone to scan & blackout police communication again seems to be entirely the video... they have some real good eyesight

(again i don't even know if that tech exists, seems unlikely to me on the blackout part)


the 'president' is unfit
Rugian
Member
Tue Jun 09 14:28:52
So when faced with the opportunity to condemn a 75 year old political extremist who was willingly provoking a confrontation with the police by approaching them with intent to interact, you instead go on a multi-post rant about the president and everyone in his circle.

Wow.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 16:42:21
you seem to be joking... Trump was definitely not joking... you find Trump fit for office... you have a problem


Republicans in congress (as is usual for a fit president) are willing to defend the leader of their party w/ strong claims of 'no comment' & 'i don't read twitter, only write on it'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 17:29:41
here's Satan grinning while walking behind capo Meadows as they duck the question
http://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1270472131441242113
Satan is involved in the talks on police reform, just like he's involved in every single thing the administration does... a good thing he has such a solid background in ???... well marrying the 'president's daughter is enough qualifications i guess
kargen
Member
Tue Jun 09 21:53:02
Fuck. When I saw Rugian's post I was going to remind Rugian that tumbleweed has placed himself in hell and Trump is not only the devil but the entirety of hell. Then I got called out.

I was close.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 23:09:15
Trump is:

- delusional (he actually believes the total bullshit he makes up... there's no other explanation for him to describe the visa lottery completely wrong or say he gave Mattis his nickname or hosts of other examples)

- easily manipulated (completely trusts any dictator/autocrat or TV personality who praises or pampers him)

- a moron (he never has accurate info & relies on Fox opinion shows & OANN for his 'info')

- a liar & fraud (everything he says about himself & accomplishments, his entire life story & all his business models)

- a child (in behavior, speech, eating habits & even spelling)

<& that doesn't cover all his faults>

Rugian finds this better than the alternative
kargen sticks his head in the sand for most of it, or thinks up some definitely wrong rationale for what he can

you are both crazy
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jun 09 23:16:26
oh one more

- he's destroying the country

some idiot cultist fan today said 'i don't always like his methods, but he loves this country'

NO, NO he doesn't... he is undermining every aspect of it all he can & only for his own benefit not to fix anything

-OANNs would be the only news networks
-laws would only be enforced on his enemies (including made-up arrests)
-elections would be his voters only
-there'd be no congress (he repeatedly was telling Mitch to 'go nuclear' to pass what he wanted) + obviously there'd be no oversight (which he already successfully achieved thanks to the spineless Rs)
-no kneeling of course, already a demand of his
kargen
Member
Wed Jun 10 00:01:41
See. Your own personal self created hell.

And what is the alternative? If you stick to the big two President Trump is leaps and bounds above anything the Dems have put against him.

A monkey winging shit at post-it notes would be better than Biden.
Dakyron
Member
Wed Jun 10 00:27:47
We should start a thread called: Billah or Trump and then post the stupidest shit either have said and see if you can tell the difference. Other than Trump's very recognizable speech pattern, the stupid-shit factor would be equal.

kargen
Member
Wed Jun 10 01:08:50
Then we can quote Dak and make them both look like some type of super genius in comparison.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jun 10 01:21:56
"President Trump is leaps and bounds above anything the Dems have put against him. "

see, you are nuts... trying to compare Trump to any adult whatsoever is impossible as there's no basis for comparison

Trump is an idiot child w/ heaps of mental illnesses
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jun 10 02:27:22
Trump should be running for class president of an elementary school or an insane asylum

and he'd still be unfit for the job, as he'd still be a constant liar who wouldn't ever bother to learn anything...
show deleted posts
Bookmark and Share