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Paramount
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Mon Jun 01 16:28:30
Authorities In Louisville Fatally Shot A Beloved BBQ Chef Who Fed Police For Free

A man was shot and killed in Louisville, Kentucky, after police said officers and the Kentucky National Guard "returned fire" on a group of people gathered outside a supermarket early Monday morning.

In a statement Monday, Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear said the Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD) and the Kentucky National Guard "were fired upon" while working to disperse a crowd as part of a citywide curfew.

They "returned fire," which resulted in a man's death, Beshear said, adding that he has authorized the Kentucky State Police to independently investigate the shooting.

Louisville mayor Greg Fischer announced Monday afternoon that he had fired Louisville Metro Police Chief Steve Conrad, saying that the body cameras of those officers involved in the shooting were not active at the time.

Responding to whether any of the officers had their body cameras on, authorities said that was under investigation.

Fischer, along with family members, identified the victim as David McAtee, the beloved chef and owner of a popular barbecue joint located next to the Dino's Food Mart.

McAtee, 53, was known to donate his time and food for several community events, his longtime friend, Metro Council President David James, told BuzzFeed News. He also used to feed police officers for free.

"He liked the police," James told BuzzFeed News. "He used to give the police free food while they were working. He talked to them all the time."

James added that McAtee was "everybody's friend."

"He loved people. He loved to cook, and he cooked for anybody," James said. "He was just a really good person who used to give free food to people in the neighborhood and to police officers."

James also said he wants answers as to why the National Guard was dispatched to 26th Street and Broadway on Monday.

"There was no protesting or anything and no critical infrastructure to be protected there," James said.

He added that people often hung out at the corner every night, and he did not know if authorities were dispatched because of curfew violation.

[...]

This is really what it comes to?" Smith told the Associated Press. “We’re just having drinks, chilling and the National Guard pulls up with machine guns? I never thought I could just be sitting somewhere having a drink, minding my own business, and the army pull up with machine guns and jump out. Never thought I would experience that here in America."


^ lol

Read all of it here: http://www...police-national-guard-protests


Paramount
Member
Mon Jun 01 16:34:17
Isn’t this why the Americans has guns? So that the people can protect themselves if the authorities are killing them?
Y2A
Member
Mon Jun 01 19:39:30
"Isn’t this why the Americans has guns? So that the people can protect themselves if the authorities are killing them?"

No, because of the customs adopted from the early settler-colonial state. Gun ownership as espoused by the NRA aren't about absolute gun ownership but about promoting gun ownership for those threatened by the mere existence of minorities in the US. As a result when there are real gun rights issues, like the Philando Castile case these guys don't lift a finger. It's not about guns, it's never been about guns.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jun 01 19:41:35
Ah yes. The classic "people who support gun rights are racist!" argument.

Is there a single political belief you have that isn't predicated on the opposing side being a bunch of filthy white nationalists? Serious question.
Y2A
Member
Mon Jun 01 19:43:07
"people who support gun rights..."

read my comment above, they don't support gun rights.
Rugian
Member
Mon Jun 01 19:47:08
Well your premise is based on a faulty assumption. Some conservative groups did support Castile's case and the ones that didn't generally did so because he wasn't legally allowed to own a gun. I don't think that's the same as "wait he's black? Fuck him them."
Y2A
Member
Mon Jun 01 20:06:27
the group that supported Castile the GUA is much smaller and less powerful than the NRA. True libertarian diehards are few.
Dukhat
Member
Mon Jun 01 20:19:50
Racist comes in to protest being called out as racist. We can look at your post history, you know that right? But I guessyou are so deeply reactionary and shortsighted now that you can’t see farther than your next meal.

Here’s hoping you join your dad sooner rather than later.
Forwyn
Member
Mon Jun 01 20:25:54
Yes, I think we can all agree that bootlickers who push gun control on minorities are pieces of shit.

Fudds who simultaneously whine for their ARs and suck cop dick are the worst. They'll be dead soon, thankfully.
The Children
Member
Tue Jun 02 00:07:09
a NO_GO ZONE

this is what a 3rd world craphole with NO GO zones look like

obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 02 15:24:26
http://www...vid-McAtee-53-firing-cops.html

Opps. As usual leftists get misled by never questioning initial reports.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jun 02 15:53:31
From the comments:

So A Business Owner Lives 50 Plus Years Then Decides To Shoot Out Of His Restaurant At Police. For No Reason. On A Whim. Was There A Gun Found? Does He Own A Gun? Why Are The People Inside His Restaurant Not Concerned About The Chef Shooting A Gun? It's Total BS And Makes No Sense.


I see no footage of a man firing ! I see a man clutching his chest



From the article:

Neither Crews nor Officer Austin Allen (right) had their body cameras switched on during the fatal shooting

^ If you want to kill someone you will of course turn off the cameras before you pull the trigger.



What I think what happened is that the police saw some black men at the restaurant and thought: ”hey, let’s shoot a grenade at them!” So they shot one of those grenades at the door to the restaurant, which is why you can see a lot of sudden smoke there. Police officers then thought that someone was shooting from the restaurant because there was a loud bang coming from there when the police grenade exploded, so they fired their guns aimlessly and rabidly at the restaurant, and killed the chef.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jun 02 16:20:56
Someone thought he was raising a gun at them, they fired, others thought they were being shot at, they fired too.

Classic Jose Guerena. "The door was splintering from his gunfire!"
kargen
Member
Thu Jun 04 18:14:31
They now have video supporting not only did he have a gun but he fired first. Still unclear who he was shooting at.
Forwyn
Member
Fri Jun 05 08:34:26
Lol. So cops started firing pepper balls at them, he returned fire, then they returned return fire.

"The authorities say the police and National Guard were returning Mr. McAtee’s fire. Surveillance videos released by the Louisville Metro Police Department, as well as a bystander video analyzed by the visual investigations team of The New York Times, suggest that he did shoot his gun.

But they also show, based on a synchronized chronology of the events that night, that the police had first fired at least two pepper balls from outside the restaurant toward Mr. McAtee and his relatives. One of the balls — which may not have been distinguishable at the time from other ammunition — hit a bottle on an outdoor table, and another came close to hitting his niece in the head right before Mr. McAtee fired."

http://www...ville-unrest-david-mcatee.html
Paramount
Member
Fri Jun 05 09:48:14
So he was only defending himself at his own property from the authorities who was trying to kill his family for sport.
Hrothgar
Member
Mon Jun 08 16:52:17
This political comic made me think of this crazy story.

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/bagley/2020/05/27/bagley-cartoon/
Hrothgar
Member
Mon Jun 08 16:52:27
http://www...ley/2020/05/27/bagley-cartoon/
The Children
Member
Tue Jun 09 00:51:47
the simple truth. this is mcatee.

http://www...e_to_cops_and_there_will_be_a/

obaminated
Member
Tue Jun 09 01:19:46
forwyn, you have to accept the authority of a police officer. i rail against them a fair amount too. but at times like this, with riots and insanity running rampant, we need law and order. you cant be pointing guns at officers and expect to go home.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Jun 09 02:35:45
If they're not shooting at you already, that's a fair take. We've seen people getting shot at with marker rounds standing on their porch. This guy was standing in the doorway of his balcony and started to have chemical rounds explode around him from dudes in the street.
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