Utopia Talk / Politics / The Tulsa rally

Rugian Member	Fri Jun 19 09:43:39 Ooh this is shaping up to be a good one. Anyone willing to bet on damage/casualties? "Tulsa Mayor G.T. Bynum, a Republican, declared a civil emergency Thursday and announced a curfew near the arena where Trump plans to hold a campaign rally on Saturday. Bynum cited recent “civil unrest,” expected “crowds in excess of 100,000” in the vicinity of the rally and opposition protests in his decision to place a federal exclusion zone for a six-block radius near the arena." http://www...e-curfew-ahead-of-trumps-rally
Rugian Member	Fri Jun 19 09:44:47 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Any protesters, anarchists, agitators, looters or lowlifes who are going to Oklahoma please understand, you will not be treated like you have been in New York, Seattle, or Minneapolis. It will be a much different scene! http://mob...ump/status/1273972301156016130
jergul large member	Fri Jun 19 09:52:14 yawn.
Rugian Member	Fri Jun 19 09:54:22 How's your research on what at-will employment is going, by the way?
Paramount Member	Fri Jun 19 10:12:47 I hope people bring guns.
jergul large member	Fri Jun 19 10:14:29 As good as the many subjects I suggested you read up since then Ruggy.
Dukhat Member	Fri Jun 19 12:50:31 Rugian so proud of his useless knowledge. A non-millionaire proud of a millionaire's ability to fire people for any reason. Fucking brainwashed retard.
Rugian Member	Fri Jun 19 13:00:43 Its basic knowledge that any American who has ever signed an employment contract would be aware of. So I'm guessing it's a foreign concept to you.
Paramount Member	Fri Jun 19 13:13:46 I think everyone who is going to Trump’s rally should bring guns with them. The more guns the more safe it will be. But will Trump or his forces stop people with guns, or will he take away the guns from the people? If he does, what will the 2nd amendment people say or do then?
sam adams Member	Fri Jun 19 14:13:49 Lol rugian triggered the fuck out of cuckhat
patom Member	Fri Jun 19 14:31:47 Montana is the only state with NO at-will employment law.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 13:23:50 6 Trump campaign staffers from the Tulsa rally advance team have tested positive for coronavirus good omen
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 14:11:31 the fools are entering the incubation chamber... 5 hours before it starts... eggcellent...
Rugian Member	Sat Jun 20 14:15:30 ^You could be a little more subtle with the whole "I hope Trump voters die" sentiment you know
jergul large member	Sat Jun 20 14:59:52 Ruggy No need to be subtle about a Darwin award assembly.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 20 15:00:59 Hell, even the most vocal of supporters here are typing away instead of standing in line. 50% of Trump supporter are stupider than you!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 15:14:07 "I hope Trump voters die" dying directly because of him is an important element both due to believing his constant misinfo on covid & also him having the rally w/ no regard to their safety... actually wanting them at greater risk for the packed crowd imagery those people are infected w/ something making them unable to detect the OBVIOUS fraud idiot... Trump being constantly exposed isn't curing them, maybe some death will help
kargen Member	Sat Jun 20 16:20:45 I'm going to set an over/under at 38 the number of posts tumbleweed makes about the rally while it is going and for the next twenty hours after.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 16:45:05 he's going to say the same bullshit he already says in interviews & on twitter for the record, do you consider what he will say at the rally as relevant to him being a fit president? (since you weirdly consider his tweeting as not, i just want it on the record)
Y2A Member	Sat Jun 20 17:14:19 livestream: http://www.twitch.tv/imhiramlive
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 17:40:12 "President Trump will no longer deliver a planned address to the overflow crowd outside the BOK Center at his Tulsa rally, a Trump campaign source tells @ABC News." & that area is empty of people... there could be turnout problems... what a shame that would be
kargen Member	Sat Jun 20 17:53:46 "for the record, do you consider what he will say at the rally as relevant to him being a fit president?" Nope same as any other rally by any other politician. You see a rally is a way to garner enthusiasm and support. It isn't policy though the speech could include possible policy. Mostly though any political rally is just go team go.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 18:16:25 so you're fine if he tells people the election is rigged, massive voter fraud, courts corrupt, etc? ok, great, totally typical politician stuff anyway, back to Trump's pure humiliation... not even clear they will fill the 19,000 arena they expected 40,000 in overflow... no overflow at the moment... and most importantly, is his tiny mentally-ill child brain & how this will affect it... he was so desperate for a huge turnout to boost his spirits after constant bad news...
Rugian Member	Sat Jun 20 19:24:25 omg He's KILLING it right now rip Biden
jergul large member	Sat Jun 20 19:29:33 Looks like about he half filled the arena. What a loser.
Y2A Member	Sat Jun 20 19:30:58 don't care about the clown, watch the stream, the ppl on the street.
Rugian Member	Sat Jun 20 19:33:47 "The unhinged leftwing mob is trying to desecrate our history" Yep. Eat it jergul.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 20 19:40:24 So sad. So weak.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 20 19:43:01 What a pathetic campaign in disarray. They have defaulted back to 2106 slogan instead of the ne rebuild rehash renew message.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 20 19:43:13 new*
Rugian Member	Sat Jun 20 19:44:05 Lol now hes completely dismantling the entire West Point ramp narrative. RIP tw
Y2A Member	Sat Jun 20 19:44:51 rugian loves the state.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Sat Jun 20 19:45:32 He such a lying turd.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 20 19:48:13 The problem with the WP ramp is the optics, not the narrative. He is weak, feeble, old, and diseased.
superdude Member	Sat Jun 20 20:24:56 Im impressed at how humble Trump is.
Y2A Member	Sat Jun 20 20:26:33 has the audience beaten any black people yet?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 20:28:10 "completely dismantling the entire West Point ramp narrative.". spewing some bullshit excuse you mean? there's no way to dismantle it, the video is clear. Also, how pathetic is it to even mention at the rally... (I'm not watching the failed rally, I'll catch the low-lights later)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 20:33:13 I do know team Trump claiming protesters kept people from coming in to explain the failed crowd size here's why that stupid lie fails 1) there's reporters there and not seeing it at all 2) he promised to have all protesters brutally disposed of 3) there's no way secret service would allow that kind of disruption to occur 4) that wouldn't explain the missing overflow crowd... 40,000+ rabid cultists just dispersed because of protesters? how pathetic the lies they go to
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 20:50:00 saw some clips... the moron said virus testing is a "double-edged sword" as then you find more cases (how terrible)... he's mentioned that before but still remarkably stupid and proposed a one-year prison sentence for flag burning
kargen Member	Sat Jun 20 21:15:23 Kind of funny just after the rally ended NewsMaxtv showed the crowd and concentrated on the full part of the arena with lots of happy and very enthusiastic people. CNN zoomed in on three really overweight people sitting by themselves in one section. The spin from each went about as you would expect.
Forwyn Member	Sat Jun 20 21:16:42 I got a text offering free tickets a few days. Early numbers were probably a bit short. Lol
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 21:38:34 his fans cheering him being able to (possibly) drink one-handed http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1274505705471397888 nice chyron by Fox News too... I look forward to seeing how he 'debunked' a video that was shown in full, requiring no analysis (I've already heard the bullshit claims of it being super slippery and merely not wanting to risk falling in front of the news, I'll assume he went with that again... and I know he lied about running for last 10 feet again)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 21:45:36 "The spin from each went about as you would expect." CNN showed many angles capturing crowd fully... zooming in on the empty section was due to all the hype Trump had been claiming about the expected crowd. It's newsworthy how short of expectations it fell... them having constructed a huge but completely unneeded overflow area. Also, more than once someone noted it was still a big crowd for a politician*. So, that's not spin, just accurate reporting. *...but politicians aren't supposed to be fraud entertainers with groupies following them around... someone who takes the job seriously and actually does the work should be FAR preferred.
Habebe Member	Sat Jun 20 21:55:46 "has the audience beaten any black people yet?" That's probably in the finale with the fireworks
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 20 22:23:53 if there are any clips of him sounding smart & making solid factual arguments please post them it seems like it was around 2 hours long, so i would assume it should have plenty of those moments
sam adams Member	Sun Jun 21 00:17:20 Did that retard actually say that we should slow down testing so our numbers dont look as bad?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 01:12:54 sort of: Trump: “The testing is a double-edged sword... <talk of doing millions of tests>... when you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases. So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’ They test and they test... We got another one over here. The young man is 10 years old. He’s got the sniffles. He’ll recover in about 15 minutes. That’s a case!” he said the slow down part as if joking although who knows as he definitely would prefer we did less testing... he never advocates for it & only ever suggests not important... and our case count relative to the world is his -only- concern & testing harms it plus the obvious mockery of testing with that kid w/ sniffles comment ('sniffles' is NOT even a symptom even though Trump repeatedly says so as he knows absolutely nothing)
Paramount Member	Sun Jun 21 01:25:54 Fewer people than expected went to Trump’s rally. Is Trump’s supporters starting to let him down? This is not looking good for Trump. When he needs them the most, they desert him. And you know how it is... when people starts to abandon something, more will follow, because people are always drawn to something that atracts people. People does not want to be with a loser, they want to be with a winner.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 01:26:37 i thought this was mockery, but this is a legit MAGA cultist politician celebrating Trump appearing to drink water w/ one hand http://twi...ess/status/1274522762502160386 perhaps that's the alleged 'debunking'... in the same way a video of someone making a 3-point shot debunks a video of them not making one
Paramount Member	Sun Jun 21 01:34:41 Trump drinks water. WITH ONE HAND! Lol. Great performance at Circus Trump.
kargen Member	Sun Jun 21 02:12:38 "Fewer people than expected went to Trump’s rally. Is Trump’s supporters starting to let him down?" Nah there was an uptick in reported corona cases in Tulsa prior to the rally. That probably kept a lot of people away.
smart dude Member	Sun Jun 21 02:47:23 wow. I have never seen a rally as hyped as this one and it flopped spectacularly. RIP trump
smart dude Member	Sun Jun 21 02:53:52 DURRR 5 million people applied for tickets couldn't even get 20m people* to attend, lol *even fewer teeth showed up
smart dude Member	Sun Jun 21 02:54:06 20k
Average Ameriacn Member	Sun Jun 21 03:08:58 Is it true that Antifa blocked the roads to Tulsa and sent Americans away?
patom Member	Sun Jun 21 04:13:01 I wonder how many will show for the RNC in Jacksonville? After all it will only be anti-climatic because everyone knows Trump will head the ticket.
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Jun 21 07:57:24 @Trump video: http://www...st-point-ramp-walk-tulsa-rally Trump may be a crazy asshole who shouldn't be president, but he was sadly correct about media coverage of the water/ramp situation, particularly about the idea that (almost) no matter how he handled the water/ramp, CNN or whoever would still have some stupid angle to exploit. (This meme again) http://i.imgur.com/MrQjpif.jpg It's especially sad given that DNC's hype channels (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) will desperately look for an angle that works against Trump's mental health (that "Parkinson's" angle that he mentions) because they know that Biden is *actually* mentally unfit — not just *politically* deplorable like Trump. In the "Which of the 2-Party Candidates Has Worse Dementia?" category, Trump appears to be the better option (less dementia), so the DNC should probably avoid drawing comparisons there.
Daemon Member	Sun Jun 21 08:07:16 You don't really expect any sane person to watch a 15 minute video about Trump/ramp?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sun Jun 21 08:12:46 These are not sane times, my Germanic cousin, these are not sane times...
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Jun 21 08:15:24 "You don't really expect any sane person to watch a 15 minute video about Trump/ramp?" I was posting it for reference since people were citing it above. The abridged parts appear in the short 450-word write-up below the video.
Rugian Member	Sun Jun 21 09:10:24 Dude did spend way too much time on the topic though. The water drinking/cup toss should have been a quick throwaway moment, not a major rant which consumed a significant chunk of his grand comeback speech.
Average Ameriacn Member	Sun Jun 21 11:06:37 Is it time to withdraw our troops from South Korea? http://www.../tiktok-trump-rally-tulsa.html TikTok users and fans of Korean pop music groups claimed to have registered potentially hundreds of thousands of tickets for Mr. Trump’s campaign rally as a prank. After the Trump campaign’s official account @TeamTrump posted a tweet asking supporters to register for free tickets using their phones on June 11, K-pop fan accounts began sharing the information with followers, encouraging them to register for the rally — and then not show. The trend quickly spread on TikTok, where videos with millions of views instructed viewers to do the same, as CNN reported on Tuesday. “Oh no, I signed up for a Trump rally, and I can’t go,” one woman joked, along with a fake cough, in a TikTok posted on June 15. Thousands of other users posted similar tweets and videos to TikTok that racked up millions of views. Representatives for TikTok did not immediately respond to requests for comment. “It spread mostly through Alt TikTok — we kept it on the quiet side where people do pranks and a lot of activism,” said the YouTuber Elijah Daniel, 26, who participated in the social media campaign. “K-pop Twitter and Alt TikTok have a good alliance where they spread information amongst each other very quickly. They all know the algorithms and how they can boost videos to get where they want.” Many users deleted their posts after 24 to 48 hours in order to conceal their plan and keep it from spreading into the mainstream internet. “The majority of people who made them deleted them after the first day because we didn’t want the Trump campaign to catch wind,” Mr. Daniel said. “These kids are smart and they thought of everything.”
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 12:07:23 re watergait: i skimmed the video, Trump's excuse seems to be arm tired from saluting & him having leather-bottom shoes which are bad for ramps apparently (+ the sun bearing down on him, & whatever else, spreading that out to 13 mins) but instead of coming out & saying 'my arm was tired from saluting & my fancy boy shoes have no traction' we got 'the ramp was like ice & media hid that i ran the final 10 feet'... if you provably lie, it hurts your case (+ lying at all other times as well) as to the saluting... i don't know where the water drink is in this video, but from clips it appeared to be during the speech... the saluting is -AFTER- the speech (at around 90 min mark), so he may have lied yet again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFUmjQowdjI ...plus there are other times Trump used 2 hands to awkwardly drink... plus his mysterious unscheduled trip to Walter Reed last November where he claimed was a jump start on his 2020 physical... a 2-month early jump start on a physical? as he's so busy? ------------- as to whether media should've covered it, i think they did as it had blown up on social media & that's what they do i guarantee Fox/Trump would've done same for Biden (in fact wasn't just them making a story of Biden 'mixing up' sister & wife... i was watching that event, they were behind him, it wasn't evidence of any dementia)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 12:14:57 found it: 1:07:28 the drink ~1:30:00 all the saluting Trump's debunking debunked... so Trump DID lie again, his 100% dishonesty record intact fucking crazy
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 21 12:16:58 I wonder how many would show up to a biden rally. I also wonder how many would storm his stage and take his mic and screech about burning down america.
Rugian Member	Sun Jun 21 12:19:52 http://twi...ump/status/1274080589310824450
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 12:25:03 ^that was not a rally, a speech to some business people or something... was nice of Trump to lie that that too though & i guess Taylor Swift would be a great president too... crowd-drawing is what's of most importance apparently (or only importance in the case of Trump)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 12:37:58 allegedly: "Trump is “furious” at the “underwhelming” crowd in Tulsa last night, multiple people close to the White House tell @albamonica @kwelkernbc & me. He was particularly angry that before he even left DC aides made public that 6 members of team in Tulsa tested positive for COVID-19." ~NBC reporter is easy to believe though... would be weird if it wasn't the little crowd-size obsessed fraud child's reaction i would guess they made public the 6 infected people either as didn't want to look like concealing something when heaps of attendees get the virus, or they could see it was low turnout & wanted to create an excuse for it
Rugian Member	Sun Jun 21 12:40:08 Notice how tw only reports on the negative aspects of anything Trump does. Never the good, only the bad.
Habebe Member	Sun Jun 21 12:50:19 Rugian, In all fairness to look at the world through TWs eyes is to not see any good Trump has done. He literally considers Trump as everything wrong with the world today.So even when he does something you or I would consider good, tw only sees it as evil.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 12:50:33 what good thing has Trump done? (meaning he was actually involved)
Habebe Member	Sun Jun 21 12:52:28 He got Germany to buy more LNG from us. He got Canada to buy dairy from us. Off the top of my head.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 12:54:13 also, i'm not here to be a fair-and-balanced reporter, i'm here to vent about Trump being a total fucking liar & fraud not that he's merely a bad president, not that i dislike his policies, he is absurdly -unfit- for the job (which he doesn't do)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 12:55:22 Trump is not involved in the trade talks, he knows nothing about the deals he heard about the dairy issue from the news
Rugian Member	Sun Jun 21 13:01:23 Trump repeatedly made salient points about him being the last bulwark against a party that has been taken over by racists and socialist radicals. But of course tw couldnt care less about that, because the battle for the literal soul of this country is less important to him than the career of some Department of Justice swamp creature that he doesnt even know personally.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 13:08:27 what destruction of America occurred under Obama such that we would expect it under Biden? Biden is NOT going to abolish police or whatever other nonsense he claimed Trump undermines faith in EVERYTHING (all to help himself)... plus he OBVIOUSLY wants to be a dictator... plus he is -entirely- unfit for the job... a total liar... a total fraud... he learns NOTHING about any issues & is happy to just make shit up & say it to the public... + easily manipulated by our enemies, while mean to our allies as they don't lavish unwarranted praise on him... it is fucking crazy if you don't like Dems / left, find a remotely mature professional person on your side (just about anyone would qualify as better than Trump... almost any R senator would be preferable)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 13:13:30 how about this... the fucking moron trusts OANN case closed
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 13:21:03 " Andrew Little, the Public Information Officer for the Tulsa Fire Department, confirmed to Forbes on Sunday that a tally taken by the fire marshal clocked the turnout at just under 6,200 people, far fewer attendees than the campaign expected. " ouch! arena was 19,200 capacity, plus they set up space for 40,000 overflow probably won't stop Trump from claiming he's never had an empty seat (was a lie already when he would say it)
Rugian Member	Sun Jun 21 13:23:04 Biden is clearly senile at this point, so his underlings are going to be running the show. His VP pick is going to be an African American woman (all of the available options are far left), hes tapped Beto O'Rourke ("hell yes the government is coming for your AR-15s" guy) has been tapped for gun strategy, while AOC (no qualifier needed) has been tapped for CC. Biden himself veered radically to the left during the primary and afterwards, abandoning support for previously mainstream things like the Hyde Amendment and 1990s crime prevention. Feel free to tell me how this doesnt equate to what could be the most radical administration in history if Biden wins. Against that, I'll take the guy who goes on Twitter rants and occasionally fires bureaucrats.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 13:29:50 candidates always veer during the primary, and I see none of your arguments address Trump being ridiculously unfit for office. Also i'll take the unnamed black woman, Beto & AOC over Omarosa, Steve Bannon & Kellyanne Conway who Trump started with. i'm not advocating for Biden, i'm advocating for ANYONE but Trump (rants & corrupt firings are not his only problems)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 13:36:22 some spin from a guy on the Christian Broadcasting Network: " Something the liberal media won’t acknowledge: @realDonaldTrump was able to draw 10,000 plus people to a rally in the middle of a global pandemic! That’s called dedication and passion so where exactly is the enthusiasm slip in 2020? Shockingly, the liberal Media is wrong again. " which he corrected to: " Apparently the attendance was 6,200 not 10,000 but it doesn’t change the fact that @realDonaldTrump was able to draw 6,200 plus people to a rally in the middle of a global pandemic! That’s called dedication and passion. If you think #MAGA isn’t fired up, you have it wrong...again " ignoring that those 6,200 cultists were obviously not remotely concerned about the pandemic as looked like <5% wearing the -free- masks that were provided + could've distanced given the huge # of empty seats (and they were not concerned, as they listen to the moron & his constant misinfo about it) --------- also has the standard made-up "Something the liberal media won’t acknowledge" bullshit that is used so often even when the media DOES acknowledge it, but they just assume people won't notice i guess (& works, as even people here have bought it)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 13:55:08 also to back up a bit... as to the "Department of Justice swamp creature"... that guy is a Trump appointee... as he was a Trump donor Trump had already removed the US Attorney (that oversees the area where Trump's business is located) as the prior one wouldn't bend the knee. This is Trump's 2nd attempt to install a shill... (his nominee has NO experience as a prosecutor). & "the battle for the literal soul of this country" is entirely what i'm engaged in not sure why you ignore all his corrupt activity & gullibly siding w/ enemies & spreading ignorance
hood Member	Sun Jun 21 13:59:39 "the battle for the literal soul of this country" Yeah, the battle is freedom vs. fascism. Hint: the people idolizing nazis are the fascists. "the last bulwark against a party that has been taken over by racists and socialist radicals" Projection at its finest.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 21 16:57:23 Hood, what the actual fuck are you talking about? There is one side of the political spectrum that is nightly burning down parts of cities and memorials. Everyone else wants to go back to work. They want to ignite a civil war.
hood Member	Sun Jun 21 17:16:02 ^ clearly delusional
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 17:19:41 wow... " Really bummed my Mom, sister and nephew canceled their trip to the Tulsa rally at the last minute due to all the concerns of violence. Clearly good people are worried about safety. It's beyond time for America to think about who will reestablish security in our neighborhoods " ~ Matt Schlapp, while schlapping on Trump's cock but i'm sure Rugian loves all the constant deception by team Trump
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 21 17:35:16 Hood lost it at some point in the past 2 months.
Habebe Member	Sun Jun 21 17:37:27 Btw, This "juneteenth" as a US holiday, why os everyone acting like this has been a thing for ever, because honestly 99.9% pf Americans have never heard of it until recently.
hood Member	Sun Jun 21 18:09:28 Rapists do tend to think of regular people as crazy. I'm touched, mt. Any more touched and I'll have to file a police report, though.
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 21 18:26:55 Yeah, youve lost a step in your game. That insult mads very little sense
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 19:00:52 "nightly burning down parts of cities" stop watching Fox News...
obaminated Member	Sun Jun 21 21:42:57 You dont think its a regular occurence that a mob forms in some major city and causes damage to a building or statue?
Habebe Member	Sun Jun 21 21:54:29 "Rapists do tend to think of regular people as crazy. " Have you dealt with many rapists? Or more of a personal experience sort of deal?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 22:04:02 there's significant difference between burning down parts of cities & damaging a statue i'm not keeping track of statue damage, although it seems like a fad, it's not going to be a sustained way of life
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 22:10:57 also this mass chaos that Fox wants you to believe is happening is happening under Trump, so how does re-electing Trump solve it
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jun 21 22:21:22 maybe he'll put more exclamation points on his "LAW & ORDER!" tweets so far Trump's only contribution has been getting the Nat'l Guard to assist in gassing away peaceful protesters in DC for his photo op (as DC is the only place he can order the Nat'l Guard) he takes credit for the Nat'l Guard in Minnesota but he had -nothing- to do with that his comments have only added to agitation
Dukhat Member	Sun Jun 21 22:22:16 Cherub Cow pretending he is qualified in any way to judge dementia. Fucking retard thinks someone proudly ignorant like Trump who needs help walking and can't drink a cup of water doesn't have dementia. Dude has had mental issues since the start of his presidency. Compare him now to his comments in 2006 when he talked about the Iraq war. Totally different person.
Habebe Member	Sun Jun 21 22:28:47 "there's significant difference between burning down parts of cities & damaging a statue" Both vandalism and property damage... I wouldnt say they are so different, but yes different. I would also say it happened while Trump was in office, not under Trump, this is a state issue as the state government has repeatedly supported the whatever you call it and have botched if Trump even mentioned the situation.
Dukhat Member	Sun Jun 21 22:29:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VB032Q1ozg Here's Biden talking completely cogently for 50 minutes citing many facts and figures accurately. Trump won't do interviews anymore and even when he does, he lies breathlessly within seconds. So he either has dementia or is a lying narcissist psychopath. Both are horrible and far worse than Biden.
Habebe Member	Sun Jun 21 22:30:35 Dukhat, How does the water thing or the supposed walking issue habe anything to do.with Dementia? Have you googled what dementia is?
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