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Utopia Talk / Politics / Tulsa rally 2 , weekend at Bidens
Habebe
Member
Sun Jun 21 22:38:29
Dukhat, Its pretty bad when you have to post shit like " look here is a clip where Biden seems coherent for almost an hour"

According to Zogby 55% of Americans think he has dementia and 60% of younher voters.... So the majority of America thinks he has Dementia.... And for the moment he is winning in national polls...but they keep him locled up.as much as possible.

Never in my life have I seen so little of a candidate at this stage in the race.

Trump will eat him.alive in a debate though.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 21 22:50:14
Trump is packed w/ mental illnesses, i don't know if dementia is one of them, but let's consider the hydroxychloroquine timeline

he decided it worked based on hearing some small/weak evidence studies... ok, maybe just being optimistic (although still weird to tout it so enthusiastically as President & at briefings to the public meant to be factually informative)

then he decided it couldn't harm you & to just take it & 'what do you have to lose'... which is false & was repeatedly said so on the news... yet he stuck w/ it... -maybe- he never heard the docs on news, but unlikely as he watches news 16 hrs a day... plus even if not, advisers would have informed him he was giving bad medical advice if he wasn't a crazy petty unfit child who'd fire you for disagreeing w/ him (plus deciding it was harmless is weird to begin with)

then he decided it was not only helpful in treating the virus but that it would protect you from getting the virus (seemingly based on nothing), he only cited phone calls from unspecified people

then he even took the drug for that purpose

i don't know if that's dementia, but it ain't normal thinking

[& there are plenty of other 'not normal thinking' examples]

i don't consider his water-drinking a dementia issue, but it remains unexplained as his saluting story was bullshit
Habebe
Member
Sun Jun 21 23:09:13
The water thing seemed muscular to me. Ive had carpal tunnel flate ups where I've had to that.

Notice he brought it up ok, then it just stopped about where the wrist would bend in with the cup. With CT you can get an overall weakness in area, especially in pinching and grasping though.

As for the hydroxy shit. I think people.are.making a big deal out of it.

1. Its relativley safe, everything if taken improperly can be harmful. Tylenol will kill you if you take a whole bottle at once.

Some small anecdotal evidence showed promise. So yeah, it didnt hurt. The guy who ate fish cleaner, well give bim a Darwin award. That would be like being prescribed lithium and eating batteries.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jun 21 23:34:54
"The water thing seemed muscular to me"
why does he have to lie about it? (& EVERYTHING)


a normal-thinking president would not have touted hydroxychloroquine without stronger reasons or at least would have noted it was weak evidence, they would not have claimed it was harmless, they would not have decided it worked prophylactically based on nothing

beliefs enter his mind & he decides they are true


there was a poll on Twitter about whether he knows he's lying or if he actually believes the shit he says... a hard question to answer... i think he does begin to believe the shit whether or not he starts out knowing he's making it up... & it does affect his work

his -only- reason for torpedoing the FISA bill was because he believes it was used to spy on his campaign (which is a retarded theory, i don't want to get into it all again, but it was ONLY on Carter Page & after he had left campaign... corruptly spying on Carter Page is not a means to spy on the campaign nor to remove Trump & why wouldn't you spy on other more useful targets if already willing to be corrupt)
Habebe
Member
Mon Jun 22 00:09:11
Well he likely lied about ot for the same reason FDR lied abput being a cripple.... The headlines would be endless. The muscular thing wad also just.my personal take based on my personal experience. Also it looks nothing like a salute.

He did note the evidence wasn't fully vetted.But yes, typical, but I really dont see a major problem.with it.

Now his lying I think we are just desensitized to it.

Sort of like how regular tv and movies has over the years desensitized us to violence that when we watch a Tarintino film where someone's arm gets cut off it looks like a hose is spraying blood doesnt bother us, partly because its so over the top it doesnt seem real and is sort of funny ( Obama founded ISIS) and partly because we're so desensitized and skeptical to begin with he doesn't seem much worse than most of the others.
kargen
Member
Mon Jun 22 01:44:15
Running off on a tangent. Tumbleweed made a big deal out of the lack of a crowd and said President Trump was lying about the number of people that applied. We now know the left made a huge effort to sign up for tickets in what they called a no-show protest. They used various social media outlets to put out the word those who oppose President Trump should apply for tickets knowing they would not use them.
So the million number is probably correct just it was the left playing dirty pool.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 02:14:55
i never said Trump was lying about the number that applied... i may have mocked him for believing they were real & definitely mocked him for the turnout


"We now know the left made a huge effort to sign up for tickets in what they called a no-show protest."

we sure do... except Team Trump denying it was the reason & is pretending the million were real supporters:

---------------
"
Trolls thinking they hacked rally tix don’t know how this works. Lame trick tried many times.

We weed out bogus RSVPs with fake phone #s.
"
~ Director of Communications Trump campaign
---------------

"So the million number is probably correct just it was the left playing dirty pool. "

not the point... fake applicants don't take up any spots as they give tickets to everyone even if way over capacity as all they want is the contact info to send wire fraud texts to to scam money from gullible idiots... so the tricksters can't be blamed for low turnout

the point is he had a failure of a crowd... he expected huge crowds of his cultists & got shit

(plus they are pathetically denying they were tricked by fake applicants in their estimates)

a team of pathetic frauds & liars, absolutely nothing they say can be believed
kargen
Member
Mon Jun 22 04:43:17
I'm going to visit your world some day. i want to see what color the sky is.
jergul
large member
Mon Jun 22 05:11:18
Trump is off to Arizona. Another State where cases have spiked. He is the third donkey of the Apocolypse.
Habebe
Member
Mon Jun 22 08:17:24
Ive always wanted to.go.to AZ. Ive actually thought about moving to SW....but if I were going to move away from the east coast I'd probably go Colorado or one od the Montana's to a cabin in the woods.
chuck
Member
Mon Jun 22 08:33:41
In This Thread, kargen promises to visit reality some day, just to see what it's like.
Dukhat
Member
Mon Jun 22 12:15:37
Zogby as a pollster lol.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 13:12:41
@kargen what did i say that isn't in your crazy world? it's all factual info (even the harvesting contact info, it's admitted too... sign up for a rally, see what you get... & 'Trump is very disappointed you haven't donated yet' & 'Trump personally selected you to join an exclusive club but you have to donate quick!' are factual examples... clear scam-the-idiots shit)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 13:18:35
part of Trump's 13 minute West Point story set to song... (more tolerable to listen to):
http://twitter.com/JoshRadnor/status/1274872806333767682

a lot of thoughts allegedly went through Trump's head before going down that ramp... my favorite part:
[about the General who helped him down ramp]

"Now he's standing there, big strong guy, and he's got these shoes but they're loaded with rubber on the bottom. Because I looked -- the first thing I did was I looked at his shoes and I looked at mine, very, very slippery."


it doesn't have the part with his lies about his arm tired from saluting to defend water drinking issue (saluting was -after- the drinking)

it does have the bullshit about 10 feet of running though
obaminated
Member
Mon Jun 22 13:18:51
Biden will eventually have to debate trump or give a speech in public and then he will drop in the polls.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 13:24:23
he actually has made speeches... Fox/Trump just lie that he has never left his basement

the election is all about Trump... are you sick of the incompetent lying piece of shit fraud child dictator or not
jergul
large member
Mon Jun 22 15:05:47
"Just fewer than 6,200 people attended, the Tulsa Fire Department said Sunday."

CNN

Barely 1/3rd capacity. Lol@Sleepy Don.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 16:42:19
6,200 is from the fire marshal

12,000 is what the always lying fraud campaign claims

either way, well under capacity, & they pick venues that are smaller than expected turnout as Trump can't stand empty seats plus loves touting the overflow crowds... his fans are just pawns to be used & abused
Y2A
Member
Mon Jun 22 16:55:00
The slient majority

http://images.app.goo.gl/QEq1vY1dQWmDrhhZ8
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 17:02:32
2 more Trump staffers have tested positive for the virus... & they attended the event

so that's 8 Trump people... impossible to believe there wasn't significant spread to those 6,200
Rugian
Member
Mon Jun 22 17:08:01
So sad to see that the Tulsa Fire Department is apparently controlled by Democratic operatives.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 17:33:27
not Trump's first battle w/ fire marshals or even second...

"
...

"All I can tell you is the venue's set up for 1,000 people, and I think there was just a big misunderstanding is what it was," Assistant Columbus Fire Chief Jim Cannell told CNN after the event. "There was a thousand people in here and once we reach capacity we can't let any more people in."

Trump teed off on the local fire marshal prior to taking the stage, quickly corralling a throng of reporters into a nearby hallway to complain that thousands of his supporters were being denied entry "purely for political reasons."

"They said in this massive building you're not allowed to have any more than a thousand people. And that's nonsense. We could have had four, five, six thousand people. They've all been turned away," Trump said. "It's a disgrace."

"That's politics at it's lowest. You ought to check it out, but it's really politics at it's lowest. C'mon let's go have a good time," Trump said.

Trump's criticism of the fire marshal came just three days after he was equally critical of a Colorado Springs fire marshal who also cut off entry to a Trump campaign event due to capacity restrictions.

"This is why our country doesn't work," Trump had said Friday at the Colorado Springs event, using the fire marshal as an example of government bureaucratic ills. "And then you wonder why we're going to hell."

...
"
http://www...marshals-crowd-size/index.html

Trump falsely accusing people of being corrupt, so unusual
Rugian
Member
Mon Jun 22 17:34:23
"Assistant Columbus Fire Chief Jim Cannell"

"Assistant Columbus Fire Chief"

"Columbus"

*TRIGGERED*
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Jun 22 17:38:24
good news for Trump... his next event only has 3,000 capacity

plus from the event location:
"Leaders from the Dream City Church are claiming in a Facebook post that they’ve installed new technology that “kills 99% of Coronavirus” through “ionization” within 10 minutes. A local company -- conveniently owned by church members -- developed the technology, they say."

frauds ♥ Trump
kargen
Member
Mon Jun 22 22:07:43
I know I put this in one other thread but they should have got this guy. He did it almost instantly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi_qX50zv7k
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