Utopia Talk / Politics / OK lets get a few things straight

superdude Member	Sat Jun 27 17:17:13 If you people wanna talk solace in a few shitty polls that only claim Republicans only make up 23% of voters go ahead but you should consider a few things. 1)TRUMP is a great President. Biden was a shitty VP and a crappy Senator from a state that most people forget exists. 2)Most people want to get out and work, live, and entertain. Not live in a basement in fear of getting sick 3)Voters want a President that will restore the economy businesses are hurting many of my local restaurants have closed I'm sure its the same in your communities. All Biden will do is increase taxes and MAKE YOU wear a mask. 4)Even people who don't like Confederate monuments don't think they should be torn down by angry mobs. 5)Over the course of the next few months people will be reminded of the 8 year shitshow of Obama/Biden presidency. *SPOILER ALERT KIDDOS* TRUMP WILL WIN!!!!
Renzo Marquez Member	Sat Jun 27 17:19:26 Trump is going to get BTFO'd.
jergul large member	Sat Jun 27 18:21:03 I am sure Trump will win at least 150 electorate votes. Trump will win!! Something.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 27 18:32:04 "few shitty polls that only claim Republicans only make up 23% of voters" kargen said that odd 23% thing too... are you the same person or just have the same bad source? and all polls have Trump losing, that's why he cites none to counter them when saying all the polls are fake (not that rational people should get complacent... run the lying shitbag into the ground) as to "Voters want a President that will restore the economy" then maybe the fuckhead should actually help fight the pandemic rather than helping the pandemic fight us
sam adams Member	Sat Jun 27 19:27:22 What is the final gonna be? 370 to 150 or so, biden winning
Rugian Member	Sat Jun 27 22:46:00 Why does everyone think theres going to be an election? According to half the foreigners and trolls on this board, Trump is a dictator, which by definition means elections dont matter.
chuck Member	Sat Jun 27 23:14:34 superdud is just trying to stir the pot because he got no bites on his Obama/Holder thread for two weeks. 彡The More You Knowミ☆
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sat Jun 27 23:18:47 Trump acts like a dictator & -wants- to be a dictator, which he makes obvious frequently maybe he'll achieve it if fools elect him again
Pillz Member	Sun Jun 28 00:25:47 Too early to call. But I imagine Biden has a severe mental lapse in public in the next 5 months, whereas Trump has 5 months of live TV and Twitter to recover.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 00:51:10 Ruggy When it comes to the abroad, your electoral colleges chooses a tyrant for us every 4 years. There are virtually no checks on that tyrant's actions outside of US court jurisdictions. Oh, and I am sure Trump will try to call off the election. I just don't think he will succeed with that.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 00:51:32 college*
kargen Member	Sun Jun 28 05:48:04 President Trump isn't going to try and call off the election. He may contest it and bitch about how it was stolen if he loses just like Hillary continues to do but it won't amount to anything just like all of Hillary's whining hasn't amounted to anything but a bad book. I'm going back and forth on whether you have come off medication that was keeping you mentally stable or if you just decided to become a huge douche troll. Gotta be one of the two. You didn't used to be this damn dense.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 06:09:51 Kargen I doubt he will succeed in calling off the election, but I am certain he will explore the option vocally on twitter. Its not a question of being dense, its a question of thinking Trump will do anything that benefits Trump.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 06:11:34 Are you incidentally going on the record here on thinking Trump will not begin his 2024 reelection campaign the moment he loses the 2020 election?
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 09:08:08 DJT will not be interested in running for the Presidency in 2024 after serving two terms. I rolled the dice and they came up seven. lulz
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 09:11:07 TJ He would not qualify after serving one term as president and one term in jail. Felons cannot run for office. So you better hope he just has to face the one term he is currently mismanaging.
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 09:22:25 You are playing tidily winks. It is possible you do comprehension difficulty. If he wins a second term he will not be a convicted as felon. I didn't and don't hope. I still have all the skin on my nose and no matter what happens it will still be unscathed.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 09:26:31 TJ "Term" has several meanings. Trump can serve two terms. One each in the two distinct institutions I suggested. If you want to roll dice predicting he will serve his next term one place, then I can roll the dice and predict he will serve his next term in a different place :).
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 09:31:09 I just rolled the dice again, :). If he loses a consecutive term he'll be too busy building a Trump Tower in Russia and China to run in 2024. Those damn dice!
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 09:36:37 TJ If by building, you mean licensing the use of "Trump" to a building in Krasnozavodsk or Tianchang, then I am sure he can instruct people to do that from the prison pay phone. See? Compromise! We would both be right.
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 09:42:21 I'm perfectly willing to compromise. If you didn't notice I did first. The odds are extremely high that he won't be convicted of any felony, but you just keep hoping.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 09:49:59 TJ So how do you think he will pardon himself?
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 09:53:40 Don't be ridiculous. I thought you knew how politics worked. You really don't want to compromise, do you? I'm amused with the comedy.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 09:58:12 Do you doubt Trump thinks its within his powers to pardon himself?
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 09:59:54 "As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong? In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!" Who does that sound like?
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 10:04:43 Do you think that Trump thinks he has committed a crime that can get him convicted? I highly doubt that he does. But I'll go straight to the logical conclusion for clarity. One needs to be convicted of a crime to be pardoned. There is no provision that allows what you are suggesting.
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 10:06:58 I got a laugh. Seconds apart...
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 10:08:14 TJ Oh? What crime was Nixon convicted of?
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 10:13:24 Ford pardoned Nixon.
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 10:21:48 I suppose you think it is a possibility Biden will pardon Trump if he loses a 2nd term, roflmao You've changed the goal post. Gee, I thought the subject was Trump pardoning himself.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 10:26:03 "needs to be convicted of a crime to be pardoned" So that statement was demonstratably wrong as I indicated with the Nixon pardon. Trump is the one who thinks he can pardon himself. He can certainly do it. Then it would be up to the courts to decide if the pardon is valid or not. It would be valid until the court rules otherwise.
TJ Member	Sun Jun 28 10:30:55 I'm beginning to think you and Trump have an ancestry connection.
kargen Member	Sun Jun 28 17:20:36 "I doubt he will succeed in calling off the election, but I am certain he will explore the option vocally on twitter." Yeah he might mention it on Twitter just to stir the press up into a frenzy. He posts a lot of things he never intends to do just to watch the left go nuts. Not something I think he should do but it is his style and seems to work for him. Things he says on Twitter don't matter and should be looked at as entertainment only.
jergul large member	Sun Jun 28 17:23:44 Kargen Anything he says in any medium does not matter. Its all entertainment at this point. He has nothing meaningful to contribute to a country in crises.
jergul large member	Mon Jun 29 08:32:01 Iran has issued an international arrest order on Donald Trump and has asked Interpol to facilitate his arrest. Since we were speaking of such things :D.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jun 29 20:53:12 "He posts a lot of things he never intends to do just to watch the left go nuts." wow, that would make him grossly unfit for office... of course, it's also bullshit, the truth is even worse... he posts his crazy ideas then adults rein him in
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jun 29 21:00:10 and as to "Things he says on Twitter don't matter and should be looked at as entertainment only." he has sent messages to other countries and his own team and announced policy via twitter, plus constantly notes it's his way of getting his message to the public kargen is a lunatic, and has had to invent this crazy position as there is no defense to what Trump puts out for the world to see
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