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Habebe
Member
Sat Aug 29 12:04:39
Well, its coming up.

It may just be a convention bump but while Trump is still behind nationally (.not important) and he is still behind in battleground states henis behind by less than he was this time 4 years ago.

So it's anyones ball really. Now we head into campaign overdrive.

Trump could score himself some points with hurrican. Laura clean up, but probably won't.

Debates are in september I think, 3 of them.
Y2A
Member
Sat Aug 29 21:57:07
the polls will tighten, tne both sides media loves a close race and will create false equivalences between the clown and biden from now to election day.
smart dude
Member
Sat Aug 29 22:38:14
^this

Though I believe the race is legitimately pretty close. After all, enough retards voted for Trump last time that he actually became president. You think those retards learned anything in 4 years? (answer: no).
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Aug 29 23:02:22
-map out your neighborhood marking Trump signs
-stockpile supplies
-practice your responses for when gunmen come to your door to question your loyalties

if Trump wins, then all hope is lost
habebe
Member
Sun Aug 30 00:55:39
TW, Sorry. They made me.


he will be missed.
habebe
Member
Tue Sep 01 10:53:21
http://www...01/2020-minnesota-trump-406280

So Minnesota has tightened to be back in play with biden still holding a narrow lead.
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Sep 01 12:50:53
Dems supporting riots and crime is making this race closer than it should be.
habebe
Member
Tue Sep 01 12:51:56
Sam, I seen that amongst whote ppl support for BLM has plummeted.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 01 13:41:00
Trump is pushing for the Big Ten football season, claims he's close

i wonder why that particular conference & not others that cancelled...

so hard to tell...

Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania... hmmm....

plus sounds like they'll rush out the vaccine before trials done since he's doing nothing to help & needs something to cover for his massive irresponsibility & constant lying about it
patom
Member
Tue Sep 01 14:33:10
smart dude-
"Though I believe the race is legitimately pretty close. After all, enough retards voted for Trump last time that he actually became president. You think those retards learned anything in 4 years? (answer: no)."

4 years ago, there were too many lazy people who sat on their asses thinking that Clinton had it made. This time around after 4 years of ineptitude and constant lying, I'm thinking that enough people have decided to make the effort to vote. Vote for anyone besides Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 01 21:37:00
Trump retweeted this:

"WARNING: Democrat Data Firm Admits ‘Incredible’ Trump Landslide Will Be Flipped By Mail-In Votes Emerging A Week After Election Day"

so already preparing to call that definite 'blue shift' fraud (don't recall what thread we were talking about that in :P)
Dakyron
Member
Tue Sep 01 21:49:29
Sam is correct. BLM is self-destructing with their behavior. If they had just stayed calm, majority of white people would have sided with them. Burning shit and yelling in people's faces and trampling through their yard has made a handful of normally sensible people start looking at four more years of Trump.

Biden should still win, but its getting closer and closer because of the continually shitty democratic campaigning and the behavior of "protesters".

Dukhat
Member
Wed Sep 02 01:40:10
Nobody cares about the protesters. They barely register on anybody's radar except people exposed to the far-right echo chamber where it's all about "law and order" and racist overtures. People are selfish and only care about what happens to them. Which is why fucking up the economy and pandemic response >>> a bunch of fucking protesters in fucking portland. Nobody cares about fucking portland especially the people that live there.
Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Wed Sep 02 02:00:14
COVID is everyone's main security concern. Trump fixating on "thugs" burning down an O'reilys in portland or Wisc is just weak.

This is why Biden is up 10 points in Ariz.
patom
Member
Wed Sep 02 04:39:50
the sad thing is that the BLM movement has lost their message to the rioters and looters. The News doesn't even cover the legitimate protests anymore.
habebe
Member
Wed Sep 02 04:45:02
Fear of covid is raining though.

The right mostly thinks Trumps has handled.covid Ok.

The left thinks he invented it and had secret police inject your grandpa.
habebe
Member
Wed Sep 02 04:45:19
waning*
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 02 13:02:23
the left thinks he's done an AWFUL job as he has... his message has been that it's over (since -May-), plus had a horrible response in February & first half of March

every tidbit of info (true or not) that supports his fake reality he propagates, while denying the reverse... including just making shit up like saying 'it's going away' continuously since the start... plus never urging any precautions (except that 1 tweet), plus holding bad example events

he even actively campaigned against 'the president's guidelines on reopening'

how anyone thinks he's doing a good job is beyond me
Habebe
Member
Wed Sep 02 13:11:55
Tw. In all fairness if the US had rates similar to say SK your argument would be that it happened in spite of him.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 02 13:19:08
because it would have been, he's clearly an incompetent moron fraud who does nothing productive

now start blaming him for how terrible we're doing, as he's CLEARLY contributing to the terribleness

nothing but misinformation flows from him
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 02 13:52:50
here he is yelling at fans to spread out & put on masks... oh wait, nope...
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1301221207405199361
& apparently he doesn't even let his secret service people wear masks

you'll never find worse mask coverage than at a Trump event... ask why that is

a recent study said masks could save 70,000 lives by December... which study says they save none?
hood
Member
Wed Sep 02 13:58:00
"if the US had rates similar to say SK"

We would have had to have a swift and collective action. You can craft as many fantasy scenarios as you want, but their relevance to reality is limited at best. Any proposed scenario should be realistic. Trump responding to COVID in a way that greatly harms the economy and employment while putting money in the hands of citizens (not corporations... and himself/his cronies) isn't realistic. Or, Trump being able to achieve SK level COVID rates isn't worth considering. It would have never happened.
Habebe
Member
Thu Sep 10 21:03:16
Florida is close, PA sees a surge in Republican voters registered.

However its still overall almost a million more registered Dems. ( 750k)

If Trump can pull off PA/Fla he is a shoe in.

http://www...gistration-pennsylvania-411232
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 13 14:03:27
http://www...erg-florida-trump-biden-413122

Bloomberg to spend 100 million in Fla.

Now it didnt do him much , but he is not Biden.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 17 12:09:53
President Donald Trump’s campaign wants a federal judge to act soon to prevent New Jersey from counting mail-in ballots starting 10 days before the Nov. 3 election.

http://www...-new-jersey-is-decided-1317146

probably doing that in any states allowed to count early

so helpful... they are demanding the result election night + telling people to vote twice if the polling place can't say if their vote tallied yet, while also trying to stop early counting of votes (which guarantees polling place won't know)
obaminated
Member
Thu Sep 17 12:51:57
Because he was going to win new jersey?

Maybe because mail on ballots are incredibly easy to fraud and thats the bigger issue?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 17 13:03:51
PA mail-in ballots are also being held up in being delivered due to Trump lawsuits (i know as i'm in PA)... i'm sure lawsuits across the country


holding up PA ballots seems weird as fucking moron tweeted today:

"The big Unsolicited Ballot States should give it up NOW, before it is too late, and ask people to go to the Polling Booths and, like always before, VOTE. Otherwise, MAYHEM!!! Solicited Ballots (absentee) are OK"

PA has only solicited ballots... not that fucking moron would ever know...
Rugian
Member
Thu Sep 17 13:28:20
"(i know as i'm in PA)."

Then you should be more than away of how much of a clusterfuck mail in voting is. What was the number of rejected primary ballots again? 20,000?
Rugian
Member
Thu Sep 17 13:35:32
JAMES MCGINNIS | BUCKS COUNTY COURIER TIMES | 23 hours ago
   
Five to 10% of mail-in ballots — potentially millions of votes cast in the battleground state of Pennsylvania — could be rejected on Nov. 3, U.S. election officials said Wednesday.

Members of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, a federal agency formed in 2002, strongly encouraged Pennsylvanians to vote in person on Election Day.

EAC members predicted a flurry of legal battles over the handling of mail-in ballots, the signature matching techniques used by local elections officials, and the stamps placed on official election mail as it's received by local mail distribution centers.

"In many places, we’re seeing rejection rates somewhere in the range of between five and up to 20%, and that should not be acceptable to anyone,” said Christy McCormick, a U.S. Election Assistance commissioner nominated by President Obama in 2014.

It’s a “very reasonable prediction” that 5% of mail-in ballots could be rejected in Pennsylvania, said Donald Palmer, who was nominated by President Trump and confirmed  by the U.S. Senate in 2019.

http://www...ouriertimes.com/amp/5802268002

And this is in a state that Trump won by 45,000 votes in 2016.

Yet whenever Trump talks about this issue, he gets flagged by Twitter for spreading information...

What a joke.
hood
Member
Thu Sep 17 14:03:42
"mail on ballots are incredibly easy to fraud"

This is a claim without evidence.
Rugian
Member
Thu Sep 17 15:08:27
Looks like the Pennsylvania Supreme Court is openly shilling for the Democrats at this point. In the past few hours theyve managed to get the Green Party candidate thrown off the ballot (cant have him siphoning votes away from Harris-Biden) AND granted an extension for mail-in voting.

The PA legislature needs to do its job and make sure that the Democratic governor and court dont steal this elections. Arrogating for itself the right to certify the state electors would be a good start.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 11:58:33
hopefully this stays in effect...

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — With concerns rising in Pennsylvania that tens of thousands of mail-in ballots will be discarded in the presidential election over technicalities, officials in the presidential battleground told counties they aren’t allowed to reject a ballot solely because an election official believes a signature doesn’t match the one in the voter’s file.

http://apnews.com/fc464c287c18823ff57fedc13facf7e5

it's not ideal, but otherwise Trumpers will be challenging signatures all over the place where it's permitted (& not in good faith)

just like hanging chads should have all been counted as votes (unless it made the person have 2 selections for same race)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 12:01:15
massive lines at day one of early voting in Fairfax, Virginia:

http://twitter.com/CNN/status/1306963691028578305

turnout in general probably will be huge this cycle... i see lots of masks so hopefully Trump haters

voting lines should -never- take hours in my opinion, but glad these people willing to do it... at least they have the option to do it another day unlike what happens on election day

habebe
Member
Fri Sep 18 12:12:11
I wonder than does the signature get verified by someone else? or can you just sign anything?
smart dude
Member
Fri Sep 18 12:59:58
my dog voted. and so did my goldfish. his signature was a wet fin against a piece of stationary.

or not. because durrrrrrrrrrrrr
smart dude
Member
Fri Sep 18 13:01:11
I typed "stationery" btw. autocorrect is full retard
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 13:14:55
i guess you can sign anything... you'd be wise to still use your signature in case it's overturned or rules altered...

you still have to be a registered voter... just so it's clear (as fucking moron doesn't comprehend the concept of voter rolls & thinks you can vote as often as you like w/ different hats or using the non-existent piles of ballots being dropped off on Dem neighborhood streets)
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