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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 05 12:16:22
Trump proving he would never disparage military members by disparaging a general:

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Q Well, my question is sort of about that. I mean, the notable voice that’s been missing from the denials is your former Chief of Staff, John Kelly, who was obviously intimately involved in this. What — how are we supposed to read —

THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, here’s the thing: —

Q — the fact that John Kelly hasn’t — hasn’t denied this?

THE PRESIDENT: I know John Kelly; he was with me. Didn’t do a good job, had no temperament, and ultimately, he was petered out. He got — he was exhausted. This man was totally exhausted. He wasn’t even able to function in the last number of months. He was not able to function. He was sort of a tough guy. By the time he got eaten up in this world — it’s a different world than he was used to — he was unable to function. And I told him, “John, you’re going to have to go. Please give me your letter of resignation.” And we did that. And now he goes out and bad — bad mouths.

Now, there are people that are jealous. There are people that are upset that they’re not here anymore. There are people that — we’ve done an incredible job. The virus came in, and now we’re doing an incredible job again. And we’re going to build it up bigger than it was before the virus came in.

But I don’t know that it was him. I haven’t seen that. I mean, I see “Anonymous,” but it could have been a guy like a John Kelly because he was —

Q Did you make that comment at his son’s grave?

THE PRESIDENT: Just so you understand, he was a very — if you look at some of his news conferences, what happened to him: He got eaten alive. He was unable to handle the pressure of this job. This job was a tough job. Mark Meadows is doing a great job, but Kelly was unable to do that.

And as far as that day, I mean, we have so much proof as to going to the — I went to Paris and the environs, and I was all set to go. They had a rainstorm the likes of which you’ve rarely seen. The fog was so great; it was — it was as dense as I’ve ever seen. And I almost knew that you couldn’t use the helicopter. And because they had to drive through, I guess, certain parts of Paris, the Secret Service, who — by the way, we have people here that were on the trip. They’re writing a report. Unable to even think about it. And I said, “Nope, I want to go. I insist on going.” It would have taken us forever.
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<then more rambling, never answering question>
http://www...ess-briefing-september-4-2020/

“Nope, I want to go. I insist on going.”

yeah, right...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 05 12:39:37
Lou Holtz is getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom for endorsing Trump at the R convention (where he disgustingly said Biden was a catholic in name only)

not as disgusting as the one for Rush Limbaugh, but still pretty disgusting

looking at recipients list, Trump mostly given to athletes... just 1 to intellectual pursuits (Laffer... probably was not his idea)

he's given out relatively few, probably just to meet the athletes... i'm sure he hates giving awards to others, he wants them for himself
Paramount
Member
Sat Sep 05 15:50:38
Wow, look at how the Serbian President is reacting. He’s like WTF?! Did America lie and cheat me?

http://twitter.com/jasminmuj/status/1302281204805201922?s=21
Renzo Marquez
Member
Sat Sep 05 16:00:22
There's all kinds of BS in there about homos too. US=gay imperialism and bending over for Isreal.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 06 12:01:41
"Steve Jobs would not be happy that his wife is wasting money he left her on a failing Radical Left Magazine that is run by a con man (Goldberg) and spews FAKE NEWS & HATE. Call her, write her, let her know how you feel!!!"
~ asshole


just Trump abusing his power to get his cultists to mass harass/threaten a woman over a magazine [the Atlantic] they know nothing about
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 06 14:25:05
team Trump attacking Biden for not coming over to answer questions... as he leaves church...

http://twitter.com/FrancisBrennan/status/1302673736919912449

meanwhile, 'chosen by god' Trump is golfing at his club (as usual)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 06 14:37:51
this video
http://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1302491940177444865

and...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 06 14:38:39
this video
http://twi...ump/status/1302675943241199618

both on Trump's twitter feed (+ another Babylon Bee article)


so professional! so presidential!
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 06 14:51:34
http://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1302491940177444865

^ This is obviously just some performance art.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 06 22:30:14
Trump continuing to urge people to vote twice


In a North Carolina "telerally" Friday night, which was later posted on Facebook, Trump spent the first few minutes of the call explaining in detail how he wanted his voters to vote. If they vote by mail, they should go to their polling place anyway to "see whether or not your mail-in vote has been tabulated or counted," Trump said, noting that if it's been counted, they won't be able to vote.

“If it has not been counted, vote — which is every citizen’s right to do — you go and vote. You press the lever and vote. So if it hasn’t been counted, if it doesn’t show up, go and vote, and then, if your mail-in ballot arrives after you vote, which it shouldn’t but possibly it could perhaps, that ballot will not be used or counted in that your vote has already been cast and tabulated, so this way you’re guaranteed to have your vote count”
... and to have committed a felony


if he keeps this shit up it's just proof he's trying to cause a calamity

checking online is the far more rational thing to do (not that Trump knows what that means, but adults should explain it til he can say the words) plus just don't do a mail-in vote if going to the polling place anyway

TOTAL IDIOCY (that even kargen couldn't defend)
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Sep 06 22:45:26
Don't worry, ignorant hacks like kargen and Rugian don't mind when their chosen hero suggests they commit a felony.
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 06 22:58:07
http://www...s/voting-election-day.amp.html

Interesting article on a likley outcome of the election.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 07 11:40:47
"10.6 Million Jobs Created In Just 4 Months, A Record!!!"
~ A Moron!!!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 07 11:49:59
"Starting to get VERY high marks in our handling of the Coronavirus (China Virus), especially when compared to other countries and areas of the world. Now the Vaccines (Plus) are coming, and fast!"
~ A Liar!!!

he tweeted that 3 hrs ago & already has retweeted it once

no need to cite any of these alleged people now giving very high marks i guess

& we are doing horrible relative to the world (& he is doing NOTHING to help, only is harming)

& a fast vaccine isn't wanted... taking time is important for determining safety & efficacy... he pretends its all just cutting red tape or something

A TOTAL FUCKING IDIOT (& FRAUD)
habebe
Member
Mon Sep 07 11:50:44
tw, Well obviously it doesnt account for record unemployment prior. However the ledt routinely will say the opposite and blame massive layoffs on Trump and record unemployment etc.

Its intellectually dishonest on both sides.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Sep 07 12:03:24
I'm far more interested to see the effects of current bradykinin treatments instead of fast-tracked vaccines.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 07 12:41:40
Republicans are just evil:


Swing state Michigan pushes for more time to count mail-in ballots amid fears over delayed result

The large volume of mailed ballots expected for November’s election has raised concerns that the final result could be significantly delayed, with mailed or absentee ballots having to be verified and counted, in addition to in-person votes being tallied.

As a result, some battleground states have either pushed for or will have additional time to count votes to ensure that the process is conducted thoroughly.

“The bottom line is we are not going to have the full results and a counting of all of our ballots on Election Night. We already know that,” Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson told NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday. She warned that “we should be prepared for this to be closer to an Election Week, as opposed to an Election Day.”

States are limited by their own laws when it comes to when they can process and count ballots. Benson said state lawmakers denied requests to change the system for this year.

“We've asked the legislature to make changes to the law to give us more ability to be prepared and count those ballots more efficiently,” she said. “They have not acted for reasons that I don't fully, completely understand.”

http://www...n-ballots-delayed-result-fears

Michigan has an R-controlled state legislature

- everyone knows there will be far more mail-in votes than usual
- everyone knows they will take more time to process
- everyone knows there will be more D votes than R votes (due to 'fucking moron')


nope, no extra time... counting votes is not important...


(& of course fucking moron has already suggested it's rigged if more D votes get counted later on than R ones even though it's almost certainly going to happen because of fucking moron's own actions)
habebe
Member
Mon Sep 07 12:55:07
tw, The current reality is that even without Trumps ranting about it that if we have one winner election night that gets reversed a week later there will be problems.

By problems I mean possible legal battles and either way the other side will not see it as a legitimate win.

Plenty of democrats still think that HRC should rightfully be potus because she won the popular vote.

If these mail im votes are done early why will it tale more time to count them?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 07 13:12:32
at a press conference now, fucking moron is now saying (again) 80 million unsolicited ballots going out...
(as well as his standard total nonsense on Obamagate)

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"either way the other side will not see it as a legitimate win."

he's certainly guaranteeing that... he should be helping fight that notion
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"If these mail im votes are done early why will it tale more time to count them? "


processing depends on state...

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But in 11 other states, including the presidential battlegrounds of Michigan and Pennsylvania, election officials can't even start the process until Election Day. And in three other states, they can't begin until the polls close.
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http://www...state-laws-will-delay-n1238806

plus some states allow ballots even just postmarked on election day

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now fucking moron complaining about reporters wearing masks...
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 07 13:32:27
"
he's certainly guaranteeing that... he should be helping fight that notion"

Well, yes he should be pushing for ways to better tabulate accurate elections.

Unfortunately both sides are doing only what will help them win instead of what is just.

We have all discussed HRCs talks on the issue as well.

As for the counting of ballots, mail in ballots I would think would atleast be set off to one place for tallying, in which case they shouldnt be any harder to count than in person ballots assuming appropriate staffing and such.

But who knows its likely different in each state. I still don't understand how we don't have at least basic rules for national elections to be standardized. Like what is the argument against that?
jergul
large member
Mon Sep 07 14:03:40
habebe
All is not equal there. Getting people to vote will give the democrats victory. Not getting them to vote will give the GOP victory.

One of these outcomes is inherently better than the other. Can you guess which one?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 07 14:16:42
"Unfortunately both sides are doing only what will help them win instead of what is just."

both sides are NOT doing the same thing AT ALL

Hillary isn't running, & Hillary didn't say the election was rigged & fraudulent, etc (in fact it was Trump saying that even after winning)

Trump is doing -everything- he can to make his cultists not trust the results, i don't know how they can at this point (same for Trump himself) if he loses

it was known he'd do that, i've said it all along... covid gave him the mail-in issue but he would just be saying rigged for some other reason if not...

but now he's even going worse, & trying to fuck up the election w/ this double voting shit (i bet -nowhere- does it say you can vote in-person & it just voids your mail-in by doing so... he likely made it up, as usual... it's just a felony by all info i've seen)

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 07 14:21:07
also on delaying the count, i'm sure the evil crime-ring (that is the Republican party now) will be questioning every signature they can to get valid votes tossed & to delay the count past deadlines
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 07 14:35:53
Jergul, Its more an issue of how people vote. Both sides are guilty of manipulating elections to seek there wins. For example of the left's wrong doing they are routinely against having valid ID to vote, no reasonable person thinks that is a good idea.

Yes Trump is doing plenty of things against the spirit of open fair elections.

I personally think working to get better safeguards against fraud would be a better use of time than dismissing votes because they use mail in ballots on a massive scale.

I seen a sign somewhere saying " If you trust the USPS so much, mail yourself $500. If you wouldn't vote in person."

Makes sense.
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 07 14:36:34
Tw, Isn't she running though? The DNC is the party of HRC and Pelosi.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 07 14:41:02
no... she isn't... i saw her once, briefly at DNC

is Fox News still covering her daily or something?

plus nothing she has said is comparable, nothing anyone has said is comparable... Trump is the only R pushing all this shit... which other R's are telling people to vote twice & that 80 million unsolicited ballots going out & that they will just be dumped out & people will grab however many they want & that they won't be delivered to R areas?

ALL BULLSHIT, ALL FROM JUST TRUMP
jergul
large member
Mon Sep 07 15:08:38
http://edi...ction-2020-veterans/index.html

TL;DR. Trump cannot win without most of the military and veteran vote.

So ironically, by disbelieving "suckers" and "losers", a Trump victory will prove that is ineed exactly what they are.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Sep 07 15:18:33
"But who knows its likely different in each state. I still don't understand how we don't have at least basic rules for national elections to be standardized. Like what is the argument against that?"

Pretty much that Article I of the Constitution gives Sates the authority to set their own regulations. Although ultimate authority resides with Congress, you'd need to get a lot of people in both houses of Congress on board with a federal override of states setting their own voting regulations.

Do you really ever see that happening?
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Sep 07 15:19:45
So, you know, pretty much "muh Constitution." That damn pesky document again. DAMN YOU FOUNDING FATHERS!!!!11!!!!1ELEVEN
kargen
Member
Tue Sep 08 03:39:10
"As for the counting of ballots, mail in ballots I would think would atleast be set off to one place for tallying, in which case they shouldnt be any harder to count than in person ballots assuming appropriate staffing and such."

What can slow down counting mail in ballots is signatures need to be checked against the signature on file. Each party can have a representative in the room during counting and they can contest a signature or other things. Think back to the hanging chad mess.I hope it doesn't happen but I kind of expect both sides to have people aggressively contesting signatures. The signature is on the envelope and that is what is checked against the one on file. Without needing to check signatures it would still take time to open each envelope unfold the ballot and run it through the machine to be tallied.

If this election is as close as most people think we will not know the results election night.
jergul
large member
Tue Sep 08 08:13:50
The tally on election night is not going to be very close at all unless the DNC sweeps like 400 electorate votes or something. Then it might have more than 270 on election night.
hood
Member
Tue Sep 08 09:06:58
"if we have one winner election night that gets reversed a week later"

Pretty easily solved by not announcing a winner. Nobody was confused by the 2016 election when Hillary was winning, but the subsequent counting of votes ended up falling for the criminal. Don't announce a winner when 20% of votes aren't counted yet due to mail in voting.


"By problems I mean possible legal battles and either way the other side will not see it as a legitimate win."

There are always legal battles. It hasn't cause any major problems in the past. The only reason we might have problems now is... hm. Maybe due to someone constantly trying to suggest that any outcome that isn't him is due to fraud?


"Plenty of democrats still think that HRC should rightfully be potus because she won the popular vote."

And that has nothing to do with whether they think the vote was administered correctly. This belief is that the system is outdated, not that the election results were truly illegitimate.


"they are routinely against having valid ID to vote"

There's no evidence of voter fraud that would make ID necessary. Voting ID is only proposed as a means of voter suppression. And then a few tards support it because there's a dressing of law and order, and it ultimately benefits their team.


"Yes Trump is doing plenty of things against the spirit of open fair elections."

Not just the criminal. The entire RNC strategy has been to make elections as restricted as possible because they know that the moment everyone gets to vote, they stop being "the silent majority." They start being the obvious minority.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 08 12:05:07
Sturgis Motorcycle Rally linked to 20% of US coronavirus cases in August: researchers

http://www...coronavirus-cases-south-dakota
(it's got some graphs, not just wild speculation)

i guess bringing heaps of people from all over the country together then sending them all back out not a great idea during a pandemic

a good thing we have morons like Trump Jr (& Fox) saying if protesters can protest then everyone can do everything
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 08 12:55:37
from an article on the Trump campaign's dwindling resources and waste (and probably fraud)

"
It’s not yet clear if the campaign will add to the more than $1 million in TV ads it’s spent in Washington, D.C., where the president has no chance of winning but a very high chance of seeing his own messaging during the many hours he tunes in each day.
"

http://nym...portedly-a-financial-mess.html

as he's a fucking moron, they can't just explain that ads are targeted to run in certain areas of the country... the lil boy has to see his ads on the TV he watches all day long
habebe
Member
Tue Sep 08 13:01:54
http://youtu.be/JhkZMxgPxXU
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 08 22:01:35
not inaccurate^


"Mexico is paying for the wall, just so you understand. They don't say that. They never say it. But we're gonna charge a small fee at the border. You know, the toll booths."
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1303475540943417344

yeah, why doesn't the fake news report the thing that's not happening...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 08 22:08:50
the campaign apparently gave out 'maga' & 'trump' masks for the people behind him & actually urged them to wear as they know Trump's total disregard looks bad

but they probably they didn't give a shit about the cultists not on camera (plus they wouldn't want baby Trump to be looking out at masks as that bothers him)

...& the reason so few showed up w/ masks to begin with is all thanks to Trump
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 02:07:51
here's a shot of the disposable cultists who are just a noise maker & crowd size number to him

http://twitter.com/thehill/status/1303543904839507970

a marked difference in masks... so proof of more deliberate deception by team Trump in just trying to get the people who would be on camera to wear them

...also i see Trump is talking again about his made-up theories on the Dem primary (important stuff indeed)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 11:49:29
from Bob Woodward's new book:

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Mattis is quoted as calling Trump "dangerous" and "unfit" to be commander in chief. Woodward writes that Coats "continued to harbor the secret belief, one that had grown rather than lessened, although unsupported by intelligence proof, that Putin had something on Trump." Woodward continues, writing that Coats felt, "How else to explain the president's behavior? Coats could see no other explanation."

The book also contains harsh evaluations of the President's leadership on the virus from current officials.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the administration's top infectious disease expert, is quoted telling others Trump's leadership was "rudderless" and that his "attention span is like a minus number."

"His sole purpose is to get reelected," Fauci told an associate, according to Woodward.
...
"
http://www...k-trump-coronavirus/index.html

so... more people saying the same things that everyone says & as Trump openly demonstrates

must be fake news

article includes audio clips of Woodward & Trump... Trump (aka fucking moron) keeps doing interviews w/ Woodward even though Woodward always makes him look like a fucking moron... that's the behavior of a fucking moron

fucking moron is a fucking moron
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 12:13:33
"the president never downplayed the virus"
- CPoSPS Kayleigh... just now...

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 12:17:32
"I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because I don't want to create a panic."
~ Trump to Woodward (on tape) Mar 19

that was about a week after his grim oval office address where he started taking it seriously (for a month or so)

& then he went back to downplaying it all the way to the present (& not about panic, just about pretending he's doing great)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 15:11:42
"I watched Lou Dobbs last night, Sean Hannity last night, Tucker last night, Laura, I watched 'Fox & Friends' in the morning"

http://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1304149654993604611

he's citing these shows as how he knows Obamagate is real... these are his information sources...

he should be yanked from office immediately
... for so many reasons
Rugian
Member
Thu Sep 10 15:32:56
Hahaha, hes Hot Rod 2.0

(for the record, Hot Rod would also have been a better candidate for president than the Dems)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 21:56:49
"
Does anybody want to have somebody from Antifa as a member... and as a resident of your suburbs? I don't think so.
“Say darling who moved in next door? Oh it’s a resident of Antifa. No thank you, let's get out of here. Let’s get the hell out of here darling, let’s leave our suburbs. Ohh, I wish Trump were president, he wouldn't have allowed that to happen.”
and that's exactly right, I won't allow it to happen.
"
http://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1304204048820830211

that obvious idiot fraud is the 'President'... so hard to believe

& he's speaking to another horde of mostly maskless idiots who are upset things aren't fully open as they actively harm efforts

& Trump (& Kayleigh) non-jokingly say these are "protests" in order to evade public safety laws... to evade public safety laws... to evade public safety laws...

but at least he's saying such important stuff
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 23:30:00
"
On November 3rd, Michigan will decide whether we will quickly return to record prosperity—or whether we allow Sleepy Joe Biden to impose a $4 TRILLION DOLLAR TAX HIKE, ban American Energy, confiscate your guns, shutdown the economy, shutdown auto production, delay the vaccine, destroy the suburbs, erase your borders, and indoctrinate your children with poisonous anti-American lies!
"
~ the 'doesn't want to create panic' guy
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 23:39:11
these amazing 8 weeks have officially ended:
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1283870680157691905
"nobody is ever going to see 8 weeks like we're going to have"

so true... nobody ever saw it
Habebe
Member
Thu Sep 10 23:44:09
Well, there is a difference though in letting a panic destroy the country and demonizing your opponent.

Its worse these days, but no different than the left demonizing Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 00:08:40
so you're buying the panic line?

it's much better to lie to the public & have them not take precautions they might have otherwise taken?

he -knew- it was far more deadly than the flu, yet he not only compares it to the flu repeatedly, he even says the flu is worse

anyone finding this acceptable is crazy (as well as his ZERO attempts to do anything since MAY... in fact actively harming efforts... why does he get a pass on this? why are masks not mandatory at his 'protests'?)

& btw, which countries were swept by panic when given accurate info?


why does no Trump fan have ANY standards at all...
Habebe
Member
Fri Sep 11 00:14:13
Im not saying it was the best move, but I could understand it partially.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 00:24:56
what about the present? or past 4 months

is there anyone you can imagine as President doing less to get our cases down?

& even if you want everything reopened, he's only HARMING that effort... his stupid pointless rallies do nothing productive & only set a bad example
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 11:45:20
interviews w/ the cultists on why not wearing masks
(probably a good cross section of the views)
http://twitter.com/donie/status/1304425414568411137

#1 finds it inconvenient

#2 has bought into the BULLSHIT claim that only 6% of COVID deaths are really COVID (that even ridiculously unfit Trump put out there in tweet & interview)

#3 thinks god will protect him & wants to get the country moving again... well, thanks for helping slow it down by doing absolutely nothing & following the leader that only harms efforts
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 11 11:50:59
"#2 has bought into the BULLSHIT claim that only 6% of COVID deaths are really COVID"

Right. Because the 80 year old obese patients with multiple health problems that Covid primarily targets were really likely to live long and healthy lives if they hadn't been struck by the virus.

Do you also think the motorcycle accident guy who happened to have Covid died from the disease?
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 11 11:54:40
And do you honestly feel like it's necessary to wear a mask when you're outdoors and nobody is around, as Joe Biden has advocated? Who are you actually helping in that situation?
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 11 11:57:25
And do you now agree that total lockdowns were NEVER necessary, and only managed to accomplish wiping out several trillion dollars from our economy and killing people in other ways (depression, missed hospital visits, etc)? Are you willing to admit that Trump was right there?
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Sep 11 11:58:15
"Right. Because the 80 year old obese patients with multiple health problems that Covid primarily targets were really likely to live long and healthy lives if they hadn't been struck by the virus.

Do you also think the motorcycle accident guy who happened to have Covid died from the disease?"

Those 80 year olds were very likely to have lived longer if they had not gotten SARS-CoV-2. I'm sure Rugian also believes all those cancer patients that die with other health problems didn't really die from cancer, too.

This is the level of pure retardation that Trump supporters exhibit. And I see Rugian is still plumbing the depths of his downward spiral in search of the bottom. Not there yet, buddy. But someday...someday.
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 11 11:58:56
How about the decision of state governors to put Covid patients in elderly homes? Will you admit that that's a significant reason why our death count is so high? New York fucked up so badly on that one that they now refuse to publish the true number of fatalities, but we know that it's at least 11,000 for that state alone.

Do you still blame Trump for those deaths?
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 11 12:02:47
"Those 80 year olds were very likely to have lived longer if they had not gotten SARS-CoV-2"

Yeah, okay. Hey Y2A, what do the actuary tables say about how long these people have again?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 12:05:08
the guy is citing a bullshit claim put out that the CDC quietly admitted only 6% of COVID deaths were COVID (based on COVID being the -sole- health issue listed on cause of death)

that doesn't mean it's fake & not causing the death of the other 94% (& some of the other "2.6" conditions listed on things brought on by COVID)

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nobody is around?
http://i.i...dth=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

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"total lockdowns were NEVER necessary"

Trump still claims they saved millions of lives, you know & Trump went along with it... so in what way was Trump right? [<- this aspect of cultists irritates the hell out of me... he takes both sides of issues then you always say he was right]

& the lock downs almost certainly did save quite a few lives as the idiot cultists wouldn't have worn masks or done anything else, just like now, so hospitals definitely would have been overwhelmed (some were pushed to the limits as it was) + we've learned better how to treat as time as gone on
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 12:14:58
& it's not just the idiot cultists he's influencing

all the people who barely pay attention (which is many) catch sight of Trump holding packed rallies w/ no precautions then think it's fine

there is NO reason to not make masks mandatory


plus his constant bullshit about a vaccine coming out soon (which he's been saying since February by the way) is another thing making people do nothing helpful... that was one reason he urged schools to open... well it's school season & no vaccine... & there won't be one for the public til next year

even if he manages to totally destroy trust in the FDA & rush one out for the election it won't be available to the commoners (not that there's a chance in hell i'd take a warp speed vaccine that clearly hadn't finished trials, as -time- is the point)
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Sep 11 12:24:59
"Yeah, okay. Hey Y2A, what do the actuary tables say about how long these people have again?"

I'm sure I can answer for Y2A on this. Whatever the tables say, I'll bet it's longer than the patient actually lived with COVID-19. Thanks.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 12:32:46
"It’s a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we’ll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
~ fucking moron, Feb 27

"We are on track to produce a vaccine in record time and very very soon, it's going to be announced, I believe, very very soon"
~ fucking moron, July 9

"So we’re going to have a vaccine very soon, maybe even before a very special date. You know what date I’m talking about."
~ fucking moron, Sep 7

----

+ at least 31 examples similar to this:
"This is going to go away without a vaccine."
~ fucking moron, May 8
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 13:40:37
At a campaign rally in Freeland, Michigan, Trump claimed his opponent, Joe Biden, "will destroy your protections for pre-existing conditions." Trump went on to say that he would himself preserve these protections.

---

what a fucking liar... in what way would Biden end protections? even if he supported medicare for all (which he doesn't) that's even more solid protection

and Trump is actively supporting a legal case that would END protections (that they evilly requested SC not look at til after election)

he -claimed- he'd do an executive order to protect them, which didn't happen, not that it could be done that way

R's do NOT support the protections in Obamacare, there's NO reason to think they'd return... they want a very watered down version that they claim is protections

totally disgraceful
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 11 14:28:41
Trump is very poorly reading teleprompters during a medal of honor ceremony

must be disappointing to have to get the award from such a disgraceful fucking moron
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 12 12:00:55
fucking moron (today):
"
NORTH CAROLINA: To make sure your Ballot COUNTS, sign & send it in EARLY. When Polls open, go to your Polling Place to see if it was COUNTED. IF NOT, VOTE! Your signed Ballot will not count because your vote has been posted. Don’t let them illegally take your vote away from you!
"

North Carolina Attorney General:
"
NORTH CAROLINA: Do NOT do what the President directs. To make sure your ballot COUNTS, sign and send it in EARLY. Then track it ONLINE with BALLOTTRAX. Do NOT vote twice (it’s a felony), or waste your time, or unnecessarily risk exposure to more people.
[w/ link to website]
"

so confirmed Trump is just making shit up about voting in person voiding a mail-in ballot & you WILL BE committing a felony

jesus christ... he's been saying that crazy shit for over a week now & STILL hasn't figured out he's encouraging mass felonies

(and, as noted before, IDIOTIC to mail-in if going to polling place anyway)


go ahead kargen, explain how he's not unfit...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 12 12:03:14
hopefully, Fox's entertainment/opinion/garbage shows will have some sense of duty & repeat the AG's comments as the cultists won't see them any other way
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 12 14:50:46
"
Saturday update:
New covid-19 deaths, yesterday:

Spain: 48
Italy: 10
Japan: 6
Canada: 0
UK: 6
Germany: 4

United States: 1,094

Population of countries above: 420 million
Population of United States: 328 million
"
http://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1304829449737842690

we're doing so amazing!!! it was totally right for Trump to ignore the pandemic since May... can't cause a panic by making any effort at all
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 13 15:11:51
so felony-encouraging american-killing Trump is holding an indoor rally tonight... presumably no precautions, as usual & people will be packed tight, as usual
(so worst scenario via experts)

& campaign is defending it, as usual, saying if protesters can pack streets we can do this, yadda yadda

so completely oblivious to actual safety & health concerns, as usual

totally absurd behavior, as usual
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 13 15:47:36
"As you know, a little while ago I received the Bay of Pigs award from the Cuban Americans in Miami. That’s a big honor and they don’t give it out easily."
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1305240011663577088

would be a prestigious award, i'm sure... & they don't give it out easily indeed... or at all


Daniel Dale (fact checker) explains...
"For those confused by Trump’s claim he got the “highly honored Bay of Pigs Award”:

He got an endorsement in 2016 from the Bay of Pigs Veterans Association. It’s not an award. He has a long history of turning endorsements and other non-awards into awards."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 13 16:05:34
coked-up Russia-colluding Don Jr explaining why Trump had to lie to America so they couldn't act in their best interests:
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1304936976039124993
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 13 16:27:38
in another edition of Trump's shameful criminal fraud fund-raising efforts, this is a text going out to Trump fans:

"
ANTIFA ALERT
They'll attack your homes if Joe's elected. Pres Trump needs you to become a Diamond Club Member. Your name is MISSING. Donate:
<link to campaign donation site>
"

Antifa will attack your homes?!
he doesn't want to create a panic of course


& that links to...

"
Become an Official 2020 Trump Diamond Card Member!

Diamond Card carrying members are critical to our movement's success, and President Trump really needs YOU on the team.

We only have a limited amount of Diamond Card memberships available, so don't wait.

Please contribute at least $45 IMMEDIATELY to activate your Official 2020 Trump Diamond Card Membership and we'll send you your PERSONALIZED card!
"

yeah, i'm sure that's a real 'limited' offer... get a 'diamond' membership card, oooh, that does nothing


disgraceful, as usual
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 13 16:39:10
i did some google searching to see the different club cards available...


- President Trump set a goal to have only 100 Patriots join his prestigious Trump 100 Club

- Become an Official 2020 Trump Diamond Card Member!

- Become an Official 2020 Trump Platinum Member!

- Become an Official 2020 Trump Gold Card Member!
(^multiple versions of that w/ different designs)

- and another where you get Silver, Gold or Platinum membership card based on amount donated (w/ yet another different design)


i wonder how many idiots out there are carrying a wallet full of these meaningless cards
Paramount
Member
Sun Sep 13 16:47:35
Yeah, but they can show that card to people and say that they are an official member of Trump.

It may be good to have a card when Trump declares martial law and starts to arrest people.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 13 16:58:27
perhaps so... although you could just print your own w/ any made-up design though as so many out there no one would know

---------

the fucking moron even tweeted out the Bay of Pigs 'award' claim:

"
Sleepy Joe Biden has spent 47 years in politics being terrible to Hispanics. Now he is relying on Castro lover Bernie Sanders to help him out. That won’t work! Remember, Miami Cubans gave me the highly honored Bay of Pigs Award for all I have done for our great Cuban Population!
"


the Bay of Pigs would be such a great achievement to be honored of course
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 14 12:01:57
Trump said in his interview with the Review-Journal that he is not afraid of getting the coronavirus from speaking at the indoor rally.

“I’m on a stage and it’s very far away,” Trump said. “And so I’m not at all concerned.”

----------

so aware the rest of the disposable cultists are being put at risk... and should be aware they are packed w/ misinformation from himself & his propaganda outlets
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 14 15:04:15
Wade Crowfoot, California Secretary for Natural Resources: "If we ignore that science and put our head in the stand and think it’s all about vegetation management, we’re not going to succeed together on protecting Californians”

Trump: "It'll start getting cooler. You just watch."

Wade: "I wish science agreed with you."

Trump: "Well, I don't think science knows actually."

-----
just like 'it will go away' on the virus

decide your own reality in Trumplandia


don't vote for a delusional FUCKING MORON
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 14 19:04:08
Trump retweeted this:

"PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR TOM WOLF AN YOUR STUPID WIFE .....YOUR NOT GOING TO MURDER US !!! TRUMP 2020 ... WE LOVE PENNSYLVANIA ⁦"
[w/ video of old people dancing to Twisted Sister & removing their masks...]
http://twitter.com/JohnFavere/status/1304760557594185728

such an embarrassment... "your stupid wife"? really?

& another:

"TYRANTS RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! Federal Judge Rules Gov. Tom Wolf, Dr. Rachel Levine’s Shutdown Orders Unconstitutional"

& many other tweets celebrating a judge striking down the PA governor's covid safety orders (that probably were based on 'the president's guidelines')


VOTE FOR AN ADULT
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Sep 15 09:53:13
support the troops!


http://www...picture-of-russian-jets-414883
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 13:07:41
they've made ^that mistake repeatedly
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 13:11:42
Biden has won the prestigious Scientific American award!

(meaning he got their endorsement, as Trump hates science... or anyone who has knowledge)


"We’ve never backed a presidential candidate in our 175-year history—until now"
http://www...c-american-endorses-joe-biden/
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 13:37:50
President Donald Trump did another rambling interview on Fox News morning show "Fox & Friends" on Tuesday.

In perhaps the most notable moment of the session, Trump said he had previously wanted to order the assassination of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and "had him all set," but that then-Secretary of Defense James Mattis opposed the idea.

This was a complete contradiction from Trump's comments two years ago. After journalist Bob Woodward reported in 2018 that Trump had wanted Assad assassinated after a Syrian chemical attack on civilians in 2017, Trump told reporters that the report was "fiction" and that an assassination "was never even contemplated, nor would it be contemplated."

(+ a bunch of other fact checks for his constant lying)
http://www...riends-assad-mattis/index.html

so for anyone who hasn't realized he lies constantly, let that above admission sink in for all the times when he denies reporting
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Sep 15 13:56:24
"In perhaps the most notable moment of the session, Trump said he had previously wanted to order the assassination of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and "had him all set," but that then-Secretary of Defense James Mattis opposed the idea"


No, that can't be true. Deep state prevents the peace candidate Trump from assassinating that loser? This must be a story about President Hillary.
Rugian
Member
Tue Sep 15 14:02:22
More 4D chess at work. Assad will now be nervous about Trump wanting to kill him without Mattis around to stop him, and will become more amenable to negotiating terms of peace as a result.

The reasons to justify Trump's Nobel nomination just keep coming in.

CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Sep 15 14:36:05
"Assad will now be nervous about Trump wanting to kill him"

Good point, but they better watch that fag Assad so he doesn't interfere in US election on biden side, he seems like the sort to do it, hoping to hide from Donald' justice
jergul
large member
Tue Sep 15 14:55:29
CR
So Biden is basically in league with Assad as I read your post.
CrownRoyal
Member
Tue Sep 15 15:07:03
Unwittingly perhaps, because he is 100% senile.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 16:27:40
well we found out why UAE agreed to that 'peace' deal w/ Israel... so we'd sell them F-35s
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 16:54:38
Women in ICE Detention Centers Were Reportedly Given Hysterectomies Without Informed Consent

http://www...on-centers-were-210634101.html

that's some Israel-level evil shit if accurate
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 17:32:23
Jared 'Satan' Kushner was asked about Trump's retweet calling Biden a pedophile

his response... 'i didn't see the tweet'

i wonder how many times that's been uttered by R's over the past 4 years
Rugian
Member
Tue Sep 15 18:00:31
Most people dont spend their days obsessing stalking the president's twitter feed, believe it or not.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 18:37:53
it's how he communicates, i would think every member of the administration & congress would want to know what the 'president' was saying
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 18:40:32
...also, you can still say something is wrong without having to see the tweet

just preface 'if it's as you said...' if you don't trust the media

but they don't do that because petty child dictator Trump will get angry
Habebe
Member
Tue Sep 15 18:56:55
Biden is overly touchy, it I don't see it as a sexual thing. Little weird though.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 19:01:55
yes it's weird, but nothing to do w/ pedophilia

plus Trump already chose not to have a problem w/ QAnon when asked about it (they like him, so how can he have a problem w/ them???), so he's just helping that nonsense spread
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 15 22:25:09
here's Trump asking why Biden hasn't issued a national mask mandate
http://twi...yan/status/1306043490850099201

& a couple posts up Trump claims he has a health care plan "all ready"... & "it's a much better plan" [than obamacare]

but not a single detail... just gonna be a surprise i guess... surely he wouldn't just make that shit up, it definitely exists
Wrath of Orion
Member
Tue Sep 15 22:31:16
He's holding back his health care plan for his third term as President.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 00:11:01
so someone put 'Fuck the Police' music over Biden's playing of 'Despacito' and Trump happily tweeted it out (either believing it or just hoping his idiot fans will)

http://twi...ump/status/1306084770300997632

that's our 'president'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 00:22:13
let's assume the adults will go with the 'it was a joke' bullshit

a) well, there's no indication it's a joke, so there -will- be idiot fans who think it's real

b) the 'President' having "fuck" in a joke is crazy

c) the 'knows-more-about-tech-than-anybody' guy decided a protester was ISIS because someone added arabic text & music to one of the protester's video... so no, Trump doesn't understand the internet


UNFIT
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 00:25:24
...and for b) it would be a 'joke' broadcast to the ENTIRE planet

(but i'm certain not a joke, as he's a fucking moron as people keep saying)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 00:29:19
...and they can't claim he didn't hear it (like they do when he tweets out 'white power!' videos) as that part is the only point to the video


so good luck, kayleigh, you disgusting filth liar's liar
jergul
large member
Wed Sep 16 02:08:57
Trump says a herd mentality will stop the virus.

We finally understand his covid strategy.

What a mind!
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