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Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Wed Sep 09 14:41:10

It just keeps coming.


THERE COMES A POINT IN EVERY ADMINISTRATION when BOB WOODWARD turns up. You may not like him -- or in this White House’s case, you may not like, respect or understand reporters altogether -- but you have no choice but to participate with WOODWARD because, if you don’t, someone else will, and that will be awfully bad for you.

IT’S CLEAR THAT AFTER “FEAR” -- WOODWARD’S 18th bestseller -- President DONALD TRUMP got wise to WOODWARD’S ways. And, probably coincidentally, TRUMP granted him 18 on-the-record interviews. Since TRUMP was dealing extensively with WOODWARD -- he seems to have dialed him frequently, just to chat and, in many cases, brag -- many in the White House were spooked about just what the book would contain.

AS IS TRADITION, WOODWARD’S journalistic home -- THE WASHINGTON POST -- got the first crack at the book, with our friends BOB COSTA and PHIL RUCKER chronicling some of its most unbelievable moments.

FROM A JOURNALISTIC POINT OF VIEW, WOODWARD will own the next week or so. He’ll appear on “60 MINUTES” on Sunday night with SCOTT PELLEY, and his book is out TUESDAY. Costa and Rucker’s story, which is quoted below … CNN has some of the recordings of Woodward talking with Trump


-- TRUMP KNOWINGLY MISLED AMERICA ABOUT COVID: “‘You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,’ Trump said in a Feb. 7 call [to Woodward]. ‘And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu.’ ‘This is deadly stuff,’ the president repeated for emphasis.

“At that time, Trump was telling the nation that the virus was no worse than a seasonal flu, predicting it would soon disappear, and insisting that the U.S. government had it totally under control. … Trump admitted to Woodward on March 19 that he deliberately minimized the danger. ‘I wanted to always play it down,’ the president said.”

-- ON RACE RELATIONS: “In a second conversation, on June 19, Woodward asked the president about White privilege, noting that they were both White men of the same generation who had privileged upbringings. Woodward suggested that they had a responsibility to better ‘understand the anger and pain’ felt by Black Americans. ‘No,’ Trump replied, his voice described by Woodward as mocking and incredulous. ‘You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn’t you? Just listen to you. Wow. No, I don’t feel that at all.’”

-- ON THE MILITARY: “‘Not to mention my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. They care more about their alliances than they do about trade deals,’ Trump told White House trade adviser Peter Navarro at one point, according to Woodward.”

-- ON NORTH KOREA: “Trump was taken with [KIM JONG UN’S] flattery, Woodward writes, telling the author pridefully that Kim had addressed him as ‘Excellency.’ Trump remarked that he was awestruck meeting Kim for the first time in 2018 in Singapore, thinking to himself, ‘Holy shit,’ and finding Kim to be ‘far beyond smart.’ Trump also boasted to Woodward that Kim ‘tells me everything,’ including a graphic account of Kim having his uncle killed.”

-- GIVING AWAY SECRETS … U.S. HAS A NEW WEAPONS SYSTEM: “In the midst of reflecting upon how close the United States had come in 2017 to war with North Korea, Trump revealed, ‘I have built a nuclear -- a weapons system that nobody’s ever had in this country before. We have stuff that you haven’t even seen or heard about. We have stuff that Putin and Xi have never heard about before. There’s nobody -- what we have is incredible.’ Woodward writes that anonymous sources later confirmed that the U.S. military had a secret new weapons system, but they would not provide details, and that the sources were surprised Trump had disclosed it.”

-- ON BARACK OBAMA: ““I don’t think Obama’s smart. … I think he’s highly overrated. And I don’t think he’s a great speaker.’ Trump added that North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un thought Obama was ‘an asshole.’”

-- JARED KUSHNER is “quoted extensively” in the book, COSTA and RUCKER write. “Woodward writes that Kushner advised people that one of the most important guiding texts to understand the Trump presidency was ‘Alice in Wonderland,’ a novel about a young girl who falls through a rabbit hole. He singled out the Cheshire cat, whose strategy was endurance and persistence, not direction.”

-- FAUCI ON JARED: “Woodward describes Fauci as particularly disappointed in Kushner for talking like a cheerleader as if everything was great. In June, as the virus was spreading wildly coast to coast and case numbers soared in Arizona, Florida, Texas and other states, Kushner said of Trump, ‘The goal is to get his head from governing to campaigning.’”

CNN HAS THIS DETAIL: “Woodward reports new details on Russia’s election meddling, writing that the NSA and CIA have classified evidence the Russians had placed malware in the election registration systems of at least two Florida counties, St. Lucie and Washington.”

-- CNN: “Woodward concludes his book with a declaration that ‘Trump is the wrong man for the job.’”
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 16:37:13
Sen Kennedy (R) dismissed as another gotcha book (in a very rehearsed answer)

just more heaps of proof Trump is unfit, so what????

just because everyone around him finds him unfit, & everything he does in private & in public is unfit, how does that matter??????????
Wed Sep 09 16:46:35
Very disappointing to see Woodward peddling this obvious fake news.

If hes spreading these lies now, then who's to say he didnt lie about Watergate as well?

the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 16:51:01
just turned on Fox...

"Bill Clinton to launch podcast" is the topic w/ people making stupid jokes (continuously... 3 people in a row... what is the point of this show? The Five")

next topic is the Kardashians show ending
Wed Sep 09 17:19:25
The Five is mostly entertainment. The segment you watched was in the D block portion of the show. Following the D block would be the fastest seven where they talk about mostly light topics. Fastest seven segment is followed by one more thing where each host usually talks about something that isn't in the news.
The Five isn't a news program in any way and they don't pretend to be like the talking head programs on other networks.

They are basically a break in the news cycle. Four regular hosts, one liberal, one libertarian and two conservatives and a guest host usually either conservative or libertarian.
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 18:05:17
they found something lighter than Kardashians?

also, nice way of saying 4 Trump supporters & 1 not

well at least Trump is on Hannity tonight for some hard-hitting questions
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 18:11:04
reportedly a blame game at White House about who let Trump talk to Woodward

as usual, just accepting he's a moron child who needs treated as such
Wed Sep 09 21:22:26
"Woodward suggested that they had a responsibility to better ‘understand the anger and pain’ felt by Black Americans. ‘No,’ Trump replied, his voice described by Woodward as mocking and incredulous. ‘You really drank the Kool-Aid, didn’t you? Just listen to you. Wow. No, I don’t feel that at all.’"

"Not to mention my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. They care more about their alliances than they do about trade deals,"

ROFL. A broken clock is right twice a day
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 21:34:44
pretty sure generals are -supposed- to worry more about alliances than trade deals

Tucker has figured out which babysitter let the lil idiot child talk to Woodward for 18 hours

i'm fine if they cannibalize tainted Lindsey Graham
Wed Sep 09 21:44:53
the cult won't care, plain and simple.
Wed Sep 09 22:02:44
After this information passes through FoxNews and their facebook echo chambers, it'll be all about the deep state victimizing Trump yet again.
Wed Sep 09 22:26:10
"pretty sure generals are -supposed- to worry more about alliances than trade deals"

Yeah, gotta agree with TW here.Its kind of thete job.

That said, this is why they don't run the country as a whole, Trump does.
Wed Sep 09 23:19:20
"The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible...it is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world"

Tell me more about the general, tw
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 23:48:36
that's George Washington speaking as president...

& obviously not our current view (& not for a long while) & he's not talking about what Generals should be up to, regardless
the wanderer
Wed Sep 09 23:50:36
so to any crazy people still voting Trump:

are you troubled by Trump revealing classified info to Russians in order to brag?

and Trump revealing classified info to his club patrons in order to brag?

and Trump revealing classified info to Woodward in order to brag?

and Trump revealing classified info to almost certainly others in order to brag?
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 00:09:29
an analogy people have been mentioning:

what if there was a deadly hurricane coming & Trump lied about it to 'not create a panic'... how'd that go over?

he's the Jaws mayor

Trump knew it was worse than flu & yet kept comparing to flu in public.

Trump knew it was airborne by Feb 7... he has never encouraged masks (that one tweet was under pressure, & obviously had no effect against his campaign of ignoring the problem)

he kept holding rallies wanting max capacity & no care about masks, only stopping when getting an embarrassing turnout

& he's back to doing it now, just view his crowds, the lack of masks is obvious, he does nothing about it (his team finally last rally distributed masks to the people behind him, clearly just for optics as the main crowd had hardly any)

Trump has killed countless people, undeniable
smart dude
Thu Sep 10 00:28:03
None of this matters. Don't you get it?

Trump's lying, adultury, treason, corruption, stupidity, narcissism...none of this matters to Trump's base it. It never will. Trumptards literally think that Biden will "DESTROY" the country. He will take your guns and burn your cities down. Because...whatever, who cares.

Would you rather vote for a moron cheetoh idiot, or someone who will DESTROY the country? The former.

No book is going to change this mindset. For one thing, these retards don't read books anyway.
Thu Sep 10 01:10:21
So what's the deals with the never Trumpets hating Woodward? most on my feed were saying he is worse than Trump?!

Did I miss something?
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 01:16:38
i've seen some people saying Woodward should've told the public sooner (possibly what you're seeing)


as to the cultists thinking "Biden will "DESTROY" the country" is another reason his 'i didn't want panic' story is bullshit

he started his list of SC nominees noting if Dems get to select the judges we'll lose free speech, guns, god, American way of life, etc. (before then talking about not wanting to create panic when answering questions on Woodward)

plus there's his constant claims of cities burning & black people coming to push around white suburban housewives

& how there's massive election fraud going on & the election will be completely rigged
Thu Sep 10 01:37:15
If there's a valid reason to vote Trump, it's only to empower the Podesta crew to push for Pacific secession and get the big igloo going
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 01:37:35
& i agree w/ smart dude that the cultists will never leave Trump no matter how much of an unfit moron fraud child he clearly displays himself to be

however, there is some odd group of people (probably who don't watch much or any news) who sway back and forth on approval of Trump

that group of ignorant people will decide the election...
Thu Sep 10 01:39:45
Bob Woodward is no better than Trump! He can take the hard cover back and front of his new book and shove it up right up his As_!!!!!!

I am so threw Woodard knew at lease 6 month!!! To promote his new book what decent human being does that. Already Filthy Rich For the Love of Money??? All these Americans have died for nothing.

Ok, I get it now. those are posts from my feed.
Thu Sep 10 01:50:10
And yes, Trump is relativley bulletproof. Much more so than most politicians.

Not just with his supporters but independents to a lesser degree too. He gets away with shit in the eyes of independents that most other politicians would.
Thu Sep 10 13:11:30
"President Donald Trump bragged to the veteran journalist Bob Woodward that he protected Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) from congressional scrutiny after the brutal assassination of American journalist Jamal Khashoggi."


and this is why Donald finally might become a wealthy guy after he is done with the presidency, maybe even become a real billionaire.
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 13:31:55
"He will always say that he didn't do it," Trump said of MBS. "He says that to everybody, and frankly I'm happy that he says that. But he will say that to you, he will say that to Congress, and he will say that to everybody. He's never said he did it."

"Do you believe that he did it?" Woodward asked.

"No, he says that he didn't do it," Trump replied.

"I know, but do you really believe —" Woodward began before Trump cut him off.

"He says very strongly that he didn't do it. Bob, they spent $400 billion over a fairly short period of time."

classic fucking moron
Average Ameriacn
Thu Sep 10 13:35:44
Trump was right:
"I don't want to create a panic,"

Think of a nationwide stampede, many many more people could have died. 330 million Americans in a stampede, more than 30 million dead? Trump prevented that!
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 13:51:36
If I don’t win, America’s Suburbs will be OVERRUN with Low Income Projects, Anarchists, Agitators, Looters and, of course, “Friendly Protesters”.
~ 'no panic' guy
Thu Sep 10 14:10:54
Thu Sep 10 14:13:32
That's just hom stating facts. If the Democrats were still the same as they were in the 1990s, it wouldnt be an issue. These far-left socialists though? They win = country destroyed.
Thu Sep 10 14:17:55
as long as there is no panic
Thu Sep 10 14:19:00
Theres only reason to panic if Weekend at Biden's wins.
Thu Sep 10 14:36:09
And corona, you need to pay attention to president. You must be panicking pretty badly
Thu Sep 10 16:15:21

Anarchist Prime
Thu Sep 10 20:30:12
the wanderer
Thu Sep 10 23:10:12
the fucking moron seems smart enough to be embarrassed by the 'who let idiot baby Trump speak to Woodward???' scramble...

yesterday, he said he merely gave Woodward some quotes


"It was a series of taped interviews, mostly by telephone. Quick ones, not long ones, quick ones. I did it out of curiosity because I do have respect and I want to see... I wonder whether or not someone like that can write good. I don't think he can, but let's see what happens."

Trump can't speak good

& those 'quick ones' were 10-18 hours (heard both numbers)... with Trump being the one to call Woodward most of the time... he loves talking to famous people (as he's a child)
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