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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 12:01:22
so fucking moron has retweeted the 'fuck the police' edited biden video a 2nd time for some reason

http://twi...ump/status/1306219979566710784


+ one pushing the made-up claim that antifa is starting the fires on the west coast which law enforcement specifically has said is false & requested people stop spreading the claim

U.N.F.I.T.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 12:19:04
some of Michael Caputo's video about CDC

http://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1306040661863542785

when judging his credibility, note:
-he was a member of the Trump campaign (so has no morals, and is a probable criminal)
-he was a protégé of Roger Stone (Trump's criminal associate... who has no morals & is a convicted criminal)

& then he got to be spokesman for HHS to help deceive America into Trump's delusional world...


semi-good news:
"
HHS announces agency spokesman Michael Caputo "has decided to take a leave of absence to focus on his health and the well-being of his family." He'll be out for 60 days, an HHS statement says.
"

Trump fans are crazy

so what lying piece of shit will take his place, i wonder
Renzo Marquez
Member
Wed Sep 16 13:20:48
Which is more objectionable:
(A) Trump retweeting a funny twitter video; or
(B) the corporate press hyping a false conspiracy theory about Russia paying bounties to the Taliban for killing Americans in an attempt to harm Trump's reelection chances and prevent the withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 14:04:05
a) he's not tweeting as a joke... his 2nd comment on it is "China is drooling. They can’t believe this!"... i have no idea what that means, but if he knew it was a joke, why would China care about it?

...& 'fuck' & (n-word) shouldn't be in public jokes by the president (not that he knows it's a joke, thus he's a fucking moron)


b) where is the proof it's false?
why did Pompeo discuss it w/ Russians if so?
how does it harm Trump? (he caused the harm himself by calling it a hoax based on nothing)
how does it prevent withdrawal?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 14:18:05
putting my moron-whisperer hat on i'm going to guess the reason he retweeted it a 2nd time w/ that weird China reference is so he/the adults can claim he only watched the first few seconds where Biden silently looking down (using phone) & just thought that looked bad & that he didn't hear the rest (that total bullshit is probably the best they could do)

although there's been so much other nonsense that not sure he/his team will even get asked about it

that's how he has succeeded... constant new ridiculousness so things don't sink in
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 14:27:09
if you want a more substantive issue, how about the health care plan he's repeatedly claimed would be out by now?

he claims it's all ready & that it's better for everybody... so where is it?

he also claimed a middle class tax cut was all ready to go right before the midterms... yet NOBODY was aware of it (& never heard about again after midterms)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 15:59:22
the CDC director said a mask might be better protection than a vaccine

on the other hand, Trump said he witnessed a waiter adjusting his mask before setting down a plate

so i guess it's 50:50 on whether masks useful...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 16:52:59
so fucking liar Trump says he thinks the vaccine will be distributed starting in October & will be a 'full distribution' meaning to general public
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 17:00:49
at 'briefing' just now:
"Obama paid $150 billion" to Iran

so to whomever (probably kargen) in whatever thread thought he wasn't deliberately misrepresenting that, please explain how 'paid' is a valid word when it was NOT our money... or any money (unfrozen assets)

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 17:05:53
Trump is saying CDC director Redfield made mistakes in his answers on vaccine distribution & in saying that masks possibly better than vaccine

lets see if Redfield has the balls to say, 'no i didn't you fucking fraud liar asshole shitbag'
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Sep 16 17:32:31
"Wed Sep 16 15:59:22
the CDC director said a mask might be better protection than a vaccine

on the other hand, Trump said he witnessed a waiter adjusting his mask before setting down a plate

so i guess it's 50:50 on whether masks useful..."
===============

Donald may be an outlier among presidents, being an obvious cretin and not trying to hide it. But this cretinism has a proud tradition

http://www...ignorance-in-the-united-states
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 18:10:45
i just wish i understood why semi-intelligent people can't get upset w/ how horribly he has handled the mask issue & how it definitely has made things much worse than they had to be

----

sadly, Redfield choosing to chicken out so far, tweeting this:
"
I 100% believe in the importance of vaccines and the importance in particular of a #COVID19 vaccine. A COVID-19 vaccine is the thing that will get Americans back to normal everyday life.

The best defense we currently have against this virus are the important mitigation efforts of wearing a mask, washing your hands, social distancing and being careful about crowds. #COVID19
"

not engaging Trump's comments specifically
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 19:00:18
if anyone wants to defend Trump pretending there will be mass vaccine availability by end of October as acceptable, go ahead

it's just so incredibly ridiculously absurd... he would've been fired so many times for so many reasons if he was in a fireable position
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 20:22:50
in yet another installment of the disgusting fraud Trump fundraising efforts is this text:
http://pbs...X0AAqRPo?format=jpg&name=small
(telling gullible old people they have missed a payment on their meaningless 'membership')

link goes to donation page with:

"
MEMBERSHIP STATUS: INACTIVE
President Trump noticed you are NO LONGER an active Sustaining Member.

Your Sustaining Membership in this 2020 Election Year plays a CRITICAL role in getting President Trump re-elected. Don't let the President down.
"

this is not normal (for non-criminals)
Habebe
Member
Wed Sep 16 21:19:12
Isn't it just fundraising for election year?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 21:27:59
no

for non-clickers, the text says "MISSED PAYMENT" & "You haven't paid your dues in 3 MONTHS"

there is no membership, there are no dues

deliberate deception used on gullible people which DOES work

(& Trump cultists are proven to be gullible so extra effective)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 17 13:00:45
well since Trump is battling the CDC director / Surgeon General / everyone over whether masks important, Laura Ingraham to the rescue!

she put on a cardiologist saying masks do nothing

thanks Laura!!! you hate America
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 17 16:45:49
Trump announced plans to sign a new executive order establishing a national commission to promote “patriotic education” in American schools, which he said would be called the 1776 Commission, a nod to his criticism of the 1619 Project throughout the speech.

The commission will be tasked with celebrating the upcoming 250th anniversary of the country’s founding and with encouraging educators to “teach our children about the miracle of American history.”

http://the...to-further-patriotic-education

what a shithole
Rugian
Member
Thu Sep 17 16:57:50
"what a shithole"

This just proves how ignorant you are. This is clearly in reaction to shit like the 1619 Project, which is a NYT-driven campaign to rewrite American history in a progressive mold. It's generally agreed to be dreadful in terms of historical accuracy, but far-left teachers are incorporating it into their curriculum anyway.

Trump's measures wouldn't be needed if our public teachers hadn't decided to shill leftist propaganda to their students, but there you go.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 17 17:34:23
so you believe Trump merely wants an accurate telling of history?

the lifelong conman salesman who has never given an accurate telling of anything ever?
kargen
Member
Thu Sep 17 18:05:57
"so you believe Trump merely wants an accurate telling of history?"

Well to be fair to Rugian he isn't a delusional mind reader like you.

I swear if President Trump put out a tweet that said "nobody should ever ram a fourteen inch dildo up their ass" there would soon be a shortage on fourteen inch dildos and you would own two of them.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Thu Sep 17 18:50:54
"I swear if President Trump put out a tweet that said "nobody should ever ram a fourteen inch dildo up their ass" there would soon be a shortage on fourteen inch dildos and you would own two of them."

lol, ok, that was fucking funny.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 17 21:36:05
that's not how hating Trump works or I'd be shopping at Macy's and buying Goodyear tires and the dozen other things he's called for boycotts of even though you cultists think he's against 'cancel culture'

-----

Yet another former member of this administration has said Trump was awful, here's his response to why there are so many doing that:

"Anytime somebody leaves our big, massive government, they leave and they try and — they get coerced into saying bad things. And it’s very unfortunate. It’s a very sad thing."

yep, all just coercion...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 12:38:11
The controversial CDC guidelines that advised people without COVID-19 symptoms not to get tested were reportedly written by Department of Health and Human Services officials, not scientists.

http://twitter.com/thehill/status/1306756339222417408

& CDC has now been changed it back (suggesting story true, not fake news... plus we already know the lunatic Trump campaigner Caputo had been interfering w/ 'deep state' CDC information)


jesus fucking christ... anyone voting for Trump hates America & wants some kind of North Korea/China hybrid
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 18 12:43:35
"China"

Wrong candidate there chief.

"Biden Repeatedly Refuses To Call China An Opponent"

http://youtu.be/icMimhDOlqc
Rugian
Member
Fri Sep 18 12:44:33
Also only Biden has consistently supported Chinese-style lockdowns, which have never before been used in this country to fight previous pandemics...


...and like China, he hates America and freedom.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 13:04:46
-Trump wants massive manufacturing w/ zero concern for environment
-Trump wants to be a dictator
-Trump wants to be fully isolated from the world
-Trump is a crazy person full of himself who wants the people to think he's the greatest person to have ever lived, & sent by god
-Trump wants 'patriotic education' to indoctrinate the youth
-Trump lies to the public constantly to claim he is doing better job than he is on all issues (including about a fucking pandemic... we don't need spin on health issues... he's fucking interfering w/ experts... & not with good motives, just to fit his made-up bullshit message... every single person should be angry, yet you won't care a bit)


so sounds North Korea/China-y to me

(also Trump supported the lockdowns...)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 13:11:15
"
We did the right thing initially. We saved millions of lives, what we did. We did the right thing. But a permanent shutdown would no longer be the answer at all. A small shutdown of certain areas — but we don’t want to do that — small shutdowns can be very helpful, but not for long periods of time.
"
~ Kim Jong Moron
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 13:22:53
i bet Trump would support yanking children out of school to train them to be olympians too (China-style) if idea floated to him

he likes winning & would associate medals won by Americans as his achievement... & he'd probably want credit for their training too (& he doesn't care about anyone's welfare but his own of course)

the China/NK list could surely be expanded quite a bit, just were thoughts off top of my head
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 13:40:26
so why are you cultists ok w/ Trump campaign officials interfering w/ the CDC information?

if you actually believe they are deep staters trying to keep people sick until after election (as Caputo stated), is just trying to modify the info the appropriate action?

seems to me you'd want a full investigation & lots of firings or complete dismantling of CDC

just like the intel agencies should just be completely eliminated w/ Trump just picking & choosing when to believe them based on what he prefers to be true... (+ installing shills into intel leadership like Ratcliffe)


indeed a shithole we're becoming under the obviously mentally-ill moron fraud
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 14:12:32
for some stupid reason, Trump is giving an update on vaccine progress right now

so not a word has value
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 14:27:32
"we're out of Syria... other than we kept the oil"
~ FUCKING MORON
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 14:37:54
so he's asked why the plan for the post office to send 5 masks to every household was canceled

his answer: the post office should charge more for packages & maybe they'd make money... always losing money... problem w/ ballots isn't the post office it's where they're being sent... fraud... yadda yadda...

why can't people say 'shut the fuck up sir & answer the question'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 15:15:12
also, to add to the ridiculousness, at this 'briefing' the doc w/ him was Scott Atlas (his new herd immunity doc who doesn't contradict him)

he's a radiologist

why is a radiologist the president's go to expert on a pandemic?

because we're a shithole now
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 18 18:15:49
so Trump also says FBI director Wray's testimony to congress was wrong & speculated Wray would answer differently if asked again (on Antifa & Russian interference)

just like Trump did w/ CDC director

i guess we need a Trump campaign staffer to attend to make sure the people stay on Trump's message rather than factual info


how the fuck is anyone finding this ok? is Fox even reporting it? do they say Trump's no evidence claims should be believed over the people w/ knowledge who are testifying under oath?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 19 11:51:43
"
Voting starts in Virginia TODAY, and we are going to WIN. You have a crazy Governor who wants to take away your guns, which he will do without me in office. He is in favor of executing babies after birth - this isn’t late-term abortion, this is a step way beyond! Vote for me...
"
~ fucking liar

baby executions... what a monster... i'm glad Trump is back to lying about that, totally normal, every politician lies so blatantly
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Sep 19 12:04:33
He said it on video.
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Sep 19 12:05:18
Trump's characterization is more accurate than the corporate press and Biden's "good people on both sides" characterization.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 19 12:07:52
so we're talking about horribly deformed babies that won't survive anyway & just pretending it's a normal healthy baby that could be executed?

how about we just don't discuss the topic... it's total bullshit, if you believe otherwise, whatever
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 19 12:12:07
fucking moron celebrating when a reporter he disliked got hit by a rubber bullet (he says tear gas cannister, because obviously it has to have falseness if a Trump story):

http://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1307318498205425665

totally normal stuff
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 19 16:53:13
in case any of you Fox watchers saw the alleged Nashville covid cover-up story on Tucker, Ingraham, Fox & Friends, etc.

it was all bullshit:
http://www...17-right-wing-media/index.html

i don't expect they'll let you know
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 19 17:30:33
remember how Fox News highlights that black guy who stands outside a Philadelphia polling place every year?

well, here's a pack of Trump cultists interfering w/ a Virginia polling place
http://twi...man/status/1307360544559706113

why are they even protesting in-person voting?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 19 21:47:31
humor from a mature adult
http://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1307491919384260609
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 19 23:08:05
“There will be no oil. There will be no God. There will be no guns.”
~ what fucking liar claims is Biden's platform


habebe
Member
Sun Sep 20 00:45:46
In all fairness hasnt Virginia been enacting a bunch of gun control simce Bloomberg bought it?
Rugian
Member
Sun Sep 20 05:51:00
^Yep. Not that tw would be aware of that though since Trump hasn't been involved.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 20 11:47:25
in all fairness, what do Virginia gun laws have to do w/ Biden's campaign?

(& NO ONE will have a full gun ban, ever)

and in what way is Biden attacking religion at all, let alone saying he will destroy god?
Habebe
Member
Sun Sep 20 11:52:29
Actually if Biden could destroy God that would be impressive.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 20 12:07:11
yes it would be


whereas the obvious fraud carrying bibles around last cycle claiming it was his favorite book & now claiming his opponent is against god & will destroy god (when his opponent actually -is- religious, no less) is thoroughly disgusting
(in fact he has attacked many opponents who actually are religious on religion... Romney, Buttigieg, Pelosi, Cruz... prob others, pretending he's the real christian... so repulsive... always deliberately deceiving the gullible as he's a conman at heart)


more gun nonsense:

"VIRGINIA, and everywhere else for that matter, I am the only thing standing between you and your 2nd Amendment. If I am re-elected, it is 100% SAFE. If not, it is GONE!"
&
"SAVE YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT, VOTE TRUMP!"


no one is running on ending the 2nd amendment, & the President is incapable of ending the 2nd amendment... & the President + Congress is incapable of ending the 2nd amendment

thus it is not "GONE!"


but i'm sure you cultists will find new words that he 'actually' means but can never say himself for some reason

also w/ evil Mitch's Supreme Court packing, you have no gun laws to worry about ever
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 20 12:18:51
Trump bragging about not needing a teleprompter... w/ 2 teleprompters next to him (as he has at EVERY event)
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1307466266542661635

but yeah, he can talk about his hair & delusions w/o a teleprompter... so fantastic
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 20 22:05:59
"I meet with foreign leaders of countries, & they have an expression, 'Sir, we are a forest nation.' But they say, 'we have trees that are far more explosive than the trees in California. We don't understand how a thing like that can happen. You have to manage your forest"
~ fucking liar & moron


they didn't say this

"explosive" trees is all Trump
habebe
Member
Mon Sep 21 02:25:24
I take back my criticism of lindsey Graham as the worst flip flopper. I was unaware of Bidens comments.

http://www...reme-court-harmeet-dhillon.amp
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 21 12:16:56
"Fox is good, but Fox is not what it was, I'll be very honest with you. They've become politically correct, they think it's wonderful. They have more Democrats on, practically, than they have Republicans. I'm complaining about it all the time."
~ fucking moron (during yet another Fox interview)

http://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1308086639546306563

he wanted to have a regular weekly call-in to Fox & Friends (but the F&Fs wouldn't commit... probably as hard to get him off the phone... & hard to keep him from saying stupid shit)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 21 13:24:43
a White House spokesman was on CNN & basically admitted that health care plan that Trump has been promising in 2 weeks repeatedly over the last year or so doesn't exist

will just be executive orders

which are guaranteed NOT to protect pre-existing conditions in any way close to Obamacare

thus the fucking liar is a fucking liar

& looks like the fucking fraud is just waiting to release it closer to election & then fucking lie about the effects as he's done 100% of the time on his executive orders, so people wont have time to learn they don't do shit

kargen will be proven wrong yet again... sad!
habebe
Member
Mon Sep 21 13:37:11
If Trump has an achilles heel, it's Healthcare. If he gets re elected t would be in his best interest to come up with some sort of UHC.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Sep 21 14:07:02
Why? Those who support him are not going to abandon him if he does nothing with health care. He'll still have enough rabid fans to stoke his ego for the rest of his orange life, and that's all he's really interested in.
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 21 15:14:31
Woo, If I were in his shoes and wanted a lasting legacy ( I think we can agree he does) I would not want to be the the guy who was the last Republican Potus for a while.

Trumps base won't abandon him if he pushes through some HC, and its a good way to save moderate Republicans and independants.

He may even be able to have a big win for Reps in 2022, what better for a legacy?
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 21 15:19:10
I mean the Senate and the Courts partially due to the Senate are for the most part Republican territory. They may lose the Senate this election ( maybe) but they will likely get it back since they have a big advantage in fly over states.

But the presidency, I dont know.
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 21 15:39:20
I don't know if its already on here or not, but Trump just said he doubts her dying wish was true and that Democrats weote it

Its a reasonable assumption considering she had been making public statements near his end.

Not sure if it is worth saying though, robably just make things worse.

Trumps character achilles heel is he hasn't learned the old Budhist saying " Only speak when what you say is greater than your silence"
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Sep 21 15:46:59
You are giving far too much credit to the way Trump thinks. My depiction is almost certainly more accurate.

Think of all the retards out there like Rugian that will never abandon their hero no matter what Trump does. They will continue to prop up his ego regardless of what he does, and that's all Trump really cares about. He doesn't give a shit what anyone else thinks because he can just label all that as "fake" and his retard legion will slurp it up with shit eating grins.
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 21 15:59:57
Woo, Yeah, generally humans dissapoint me , one could hope.

Admittedly some things as a Republican sympathizer just frustrate me. Like I get that we have to deal with the religious weirdos but HC? There are conservative compromises we could work into it. UHC isnt a left only idea, except in this country.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 21 16:50:53
"Trump just said he doubts her dying wish was true"

not only that he speculated it was Schiff... just like he speculated the Russian bounties story was Schiff (which would be impossible)

MENTAL ILLNESS
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 21 16:59:19
remember when Trump predicted 60,000 deaths total when estimates were 100-150k

well, 200k & counting... & he gives himself an A+ again... absolutely no room for improvement

he did urge masks one time after all, clearly that was sufficient... & the adults in interviews keep claiming he urges mask wearing... irritatingly, no one asks WHEN?

he even said CDC director was wrong about their usefulness... cause waiters

being a total fraud & moron is his achilles heel
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 21 18:10:33
"Losing My Religion" playing at the Trump spreader rally currently

they also play "Fortunate Son" (criticizing how the rich avoided the draft in Vietnam)

gotta be someone trolling in the music selection dept
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 21 19:04:44
the cultist crowd booed when urged to wear masks (something they've done before)

do you think they'd boo the fucking moron if he said it though? not that he ever would, of course
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 22 00:12:24
Trump showing compassion for the 200k people that he mostly killed
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1308209927274536961
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 22 15:53:11
Kayleigh questioned about the healthcare plan Trump keeps saying is ready & would be laid out in "two weeks" (for about a year now):

“No, it certainly does exist.
The President in the next week or so will be laying out his vision for health care. Some of that has already been put out there – telemedicine and lowering the cost of drugs... and protecting preexisting conditions. But the President will be laying out some additional health care steps in the coming, I would say, two weeks.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SqM1VX2qlc


"healthcare steps"... hmm... doesn't sound like a plan at all

more lowering of expectations of that thing that's just "two weeks" away
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 22 15:55:41
lots of 'get your absentee ballot' tweets appearing on Trump's feed (by an adult i assume, as he'd never know how to help people apply for them)... as if it's any different than mail-in ballots he's been railing against
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 22 18:10:42
Kayleigh: “It keeps him up at night, thinking of even one life lost.”
http://twitter.com/alexnazaryan/status/1308459985068863489
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 22 22:03:41
"What really Russia wants to do is drag us down, polarize us and pit us against each other and reduce our confidence in who we are and in our democratic principles and institutions and processes.”
~ HR McMaster

crazily, Trump helps in all of that and crazily, it's almost continuously, and crazily it's broadly across many 'institutions and processes'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 23 00:36:56
"
A few weeks ago, I BANNED efforts to indoctrinate government employees with divisive and harmful sex and race-based ideologies. Today, I've expanded that ban to people and companies that do business...
...with our Country, the United States Military, Government Contractors, and Grantees. Americans should be taught to take PRIDE in our Great Country, and if you don’t, there’s nothing in it for you!
"

dictator gotta dictate
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 23 12:01:36
"Foreign actors & cybercriminals likely to spread disinfo on 2020 election results, per @FBI
, @CISAgov. They could create new websites, change existing ones, create or share social media content to spread false info to discredit process."

[from FBI public service announcement doc]
http://twitter.com/NCSCgov/status/1308502869843365890

so Trump is a cybercriminal (or foreign actor) according to the FBI
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 23 12:19:55
"Big news. Numerous great companies are seeing fantastic results. @FDA must move quickly!"

fucking moron posted ^this in reply to an article about Johnson & Johnson -just starting- phase 3 trials

& fucking moron wants the FDA to move quickly??

fuck this fucking moron
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 24 14:14:41
“If President Trump can win again, he would join Winston Churchill and Alexander the Great among the greatest leaders of world history. And if he falls short, well, there is no point in considering the possibility. He’s a winner—the winner.”
~ Lou Dobbs (host of a Fox show)

http://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1308903105011081218
jergul
large member
Thu Sep 24 16:27:40
Seb
A problem I see is what happens to the US as lynch-pin of the Nato Alliance if that country loses "free and fair elections" status from international observers.

Eerily. This could happen. Now.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Thu Sep 24 16:47:47
It is assumed that if Trump loses the popular vote and wins the electoral votes (which is the most likely scenario if he wins), the losers will accept another 4 years of Trump. Remember that the legitimacy of the college vote system was already put into question last time. This time there is already a low intensity incipient insurgency, going on. Yet all that the kids are talking about is what if Trump doesn't accept the results. What if he wins?
jergul
large member
Thu Sep 24 17:18:57
I am sort of assuming a Schroedingers count situation were a winner exists and does not exist at the same time.

Trump is never going to conceed. I am not sure the US system is set up to deal with someone not conceeding.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 24 17:22:50
you guys are in the wrong thread, this thread is the Shelob's lair of UP
jergul
large member
Thu Sep 24 17:26:06
Sorry. That 16:27 post of mine was a mispost meant for a diffreent thread, thoug we are helping you keep the thread numbers rolling :).
Habebe
Member
Thu Sep 24 17:39:28
Nim, Whoever wins neither have said they will.accept defeat....that is a crazy thought in a supposedly free country.....vancouver Island is looking better everyday...or Jerguls spare room.

Now I love how all the media is a buzz with Trumps statement about a transfer of power but only one candidate has suggested taking thenoffice by military force.
smart dude
Member
Thu Sep 24 21:11:18
"~ Lou Dobbs (host of a Fox show)"

You left out the most important part of the tweet: a link to LouDobbsShop.com
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 24 21:51:41
"neither have said they will.accept defeat"

you're referring to that Hillary quote I assume (who is not the candidate in any way)? And was specifically about election night where votes will definitely not be counted
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Sep 24 22:21:11
"the historic action i'm taking today includes the first ever executive order to affirm it is the official policy of the United States government to protect patients with preexisting conditions."

~something a fucking moron would say

http://twi...ent/status/1309246313297588224

i swear he has no idea what 'protecting patients with preexisting conditions' refers to, he has never shown any knowledge beyond saying those words (much like on every topic)

[--please-- some moderator ask him to explain it]

making it 'official policy' to protect patients means NOTHING... why would insurance companies care what the US gov'ts official policy was?

there is no Trump health plan, was all a hoax as he says, he only offered his 'vision'

people applauded when his vision included 'more options'... oooh... more options... so much detail!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 25 11:48:46
one of Trump's latest panders/election stunts:


President Trump will reportedly push toward the creation of a federal holiday for Juneteenth.

Ja'Ron Smith, a top administration adviser, told McClatchy DC on Thursday that the president had reversed his stance after previously declining to endorse a legislative effort earlier this year.

The June 19 holiday commemorates the cessation of slavery.

...

The Trump campaign had said the holiday would be part of President Trump's “Platinum Plan."

http://www...mp-juneteenth-national-holiday

'platinum plan'... of course it's called that...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 25 11:51:56

and to buy votes Trump planning to send out $200 gift cards to everyone on medicare


"The Health and Human Services department just held a call during which, shockingly, they said the White House's plan to pay for Trump's $200 prescription drug coupons is still being worked out. No justification for using $6.6 billion in taxpayer money as a pre-election giveaway"

http://twitter.com/levfacher/status/1309501530714894346
[an article linked in post above that one]


a flurry of 'activity' by the fucking moron fraud after a couple years of doing nothing at all...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Sep 25 16:41:30
Trump did not attend RBG's funeral service... is there a tweet for that? of course! :


"I wonder if President Obama would have attended the funeral of Justice Scalia if it were held in a Mosque? Very sad that he did not go!"
~ fucking moron, Feb 20, 2016

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/701084443889381377

...such an asshole

(not because Trump didn't go, he befouls any place he goes, just referring to the mosque comment... & every other thing he's ever said)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 02:24:42
so that lunatic member of the Trump campaign who was appointed to HHS was also head of a $300 million 'public awareness' covid ad campaign to 'defeat despair'

which means it would be 'Trump did a fantastic job!' 'sure did!' 'he's amazing!'

luckily that guy claims to have cancer now & someone else in charge... we'll see what likely nonsense we'll still get

http://www...ump-hhs-ads-coronavirus-421957
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 13:25:21
good Lyndsey Graham ad
http://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1309494377744445441
he's been on Trump's favorite shows lately begging for money... nice that Fox gives that platform to R's in need
Rugian
Member
Sat Sep 26 13:34:51
^bait and switch. That's an anti-Graham ad.
Rugian
Member
Sat Sep 26 13:37:09
Also this is definitely you if Trump does lose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDKUB7I-5fY
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 13:42:23
nope... i really do want to never see or hear from Trump again, even if political news is boring again... it's supposed to be

entertainment value is not a quality i look for in a president in any way at all
Habebe
Member
Sat Sep 26 13:54:17
This the only tender I will.accept anymore, spaceforce bills.

http://sto...orce-trump-legal-tender-2-bill

It says* legal tender. Pretty sute its not.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 14:02:55
it probably is as they are using real $2 bills

not that you'd want to spend a $2 bill that you paid $20 for

but pretty sure it's a crime to deface currency like that
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 14:05:11
they'd probably sell more w/ just a fake bill w/ Trump's face on it & TRUMP written as big as possible on the back

Trump would buy a bunch himself
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 14:21:35
twitter thread on the impropriety of that 9 PA ballots reveal by DOJ
http://twitter.com/eliehonig/status/1309837691572412416

TLDR: never should've announced investigation, never should've given details, never should've gotten details wrong (all of which magically worked exactly to fit Trump's narrative)

& apparently the ballots were sent in the wrong envelope

so gave team Trump a story to supposedly show fraud & to allow them to never accept any PA results
habebe
Member
Sat Sep 26 14:46:51
pretty sure thw wrong envelope thin refers to " naked ballots"

ballots must be in a special envelope within the larger mailing envelope or they dont count...which does probably nothing to help against fraud.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 14:51:32
well he says they were sent in ballot -request- envelopes but i don't know if confirmed yet

what seems clear is a political DOJ release to help Trump's narrative that has caused nothing but harm to the process

the 'naked ballots' will be another problem... not sure why people think they can add any complexity to a process & not fuck things up, the public is stupid
habebe
Member
Sat Sep 26 15:01:34
The public is so stupid that perhaps our founders knowing this intentionally limited the vote in a way that seems racist and sexist by today's standards but at the time wqs a reasonable way to help ensure better informed voters who had a stake in the country.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 17:27:31
Trump retweeted another Dobbs' tweet quoting Dobbs' show quoting Dobbs' book... w/ again over-the-top praise of dear leader

http://twi...ump/status/1309867918138765312

i didn't notice the first time that he claims to do a quote every day... maybe praising Trump daily will be part of that 'patriotic education' package


Trump's twitter butler only grabbed the video rather than just retweeting Dobbs, so there's no link to Dobb's store... tough luck, you little pathetic house-elf
Rugian
Member
Sat Sep 26 18:57:21
Betcha TW has no more material to continue this series after this thread.

gg
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