Welcome to the Utopia Forums! Register a new account
The current time is Sun Sep 20 19:42:26 2020

Utopia Talk / Politics / More Evidence of Russian Influence in US
Renzo Marquez
Member
Wed Sep 16 13:27:16
They obviously control our government.

http://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1306297696630837248
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 16 14:09:38
she's speaking to an Israeli group... fairly standard rhetoric... at least it's only lip service, Trump IS actually controlled by Netanyahu


Trump speaking to same group saying they have to vote for him as they love their money
http://www...american-council-a9237721.html
Paramount
Member
Wed Sep 16 15:11:25
”If the US capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain is the US aid to Israel.”

Lol
Rugian
Member
Wed Sep 16 15:49:08
Okay, I get that shes a politician and it's her job to pander to whoever shes speaking to...but wow at that line.
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Sep 16 17:38:07
I'd like to know how US policy on Israel might change, should Biden win. He'll obviously have the support of Pelosi and the house, so what can he do for Bibi that Trump hasn't done yet? Kill assad maybe?
Renzo Marquez
Member
Wed Sep 16 17:55:23
Crazy thing is Trump was close to wacking Assad.

http://www...ssassinate-syria-bashar-assad/

It's unfortunate that the corporate press and resistards have been so much more focused on Russia/Ukraine nonsense and mean tweets than the really fucked up shit Trump has done (illegally bombing Syria, assassinating Soleimani, continued support for Yemen war, inflating Wall Street bubble while doing essentially nothing for working class people, etc.).

Israel policy doesn't really change substantively either way with this election.
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Sep 16 18:03:33
“ Israel policy doesn't really change substantively either way with this election.”

Yep. I also thought that Pelosi words carry very little practical weight, in terms of policy.
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Sep 16 18:13:05
Remember how warmongering Hillary would definitely go for regime change in Syria, provoking a nuclear war with Russia, so trump is the better choice? Donald actually says the murdering assad part, what happened with inevitable nuclear mushroom over NYC, where are the russian missiles?
Renzo Marquez
Member
Wed Sep 16 18:17:06
Her no fly zone plan would have inevitably led to another regime change war. At least Trump hasn't started one of those (admittedly due in part to luck).
Renzo Marquez
Member
Wed Sep 16 18:38:18
I forgot the Assange prosecution in my 17:55:23 post. Another awful thing and a much bigger threat to freedom of the press than mean tweets but largely ignored because Assange is allegedly a tool of muh Russia.
CrownRoyal
Member
Wed Sep 16 18:38:31
"Her no fly zone plan would have inevitably led to another regime change war."

what would Trump's plan to assassinate Assad inevitably lead to, as long as you are speculating?

"(admittedly due in part to luck)."

luck or deep state, since reportedly it was mattis who objected and presumably persuaded the peace candidate.
Renzo Marquez
Member
Wed Sep 16 18:46:44
CrownRoyal
Member Wed Sep 16 18:38:31
"what would Trump's plan to assassinate Assad inevitably lead to, as long as you are speculating?"

Most likely a Libya scenario. Fortunately, he didn't follow through with it,
Habebe
Member
Wed Sep 16 19:12:00
"what would Trump's plan to assassinate Assad inevitably lead to, as long as you are speculating?"

Probably worse off situation.Its bound to have a power vaccuum that will be filled, unless you have a good replacement ready and capable it's a shit show, as the US has shown.

Pinochet is probably are best success, but we had a willing and very capable replacement authority.
show deleted posts

Your Name:
Your Password:
Your Message:
Bookmark and Share