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Habebe
Member Fri Sep 18 04:50:38
I don't much care for comparing apples to oranges, Europe in general SHOULD have better reliability of power.

If you wanted to compare grids with similar obstacles than like I said Japan would be the closest to the US SE. Atleast in regards to weather. Id bet the Japanese grid is superior to the US SE grid due to funding.

Norway would probably better be compared to the UAE as both are small oil states.

jergul
large member Fri Sep 18 05:18:52
Or perhaps Alaska, the Yukon, Nova Scotia and New Foundland?

I am always here to help you improve your knowledge of geography.

Why can't you wrap your head around the difference being we fund infrastructure properely and you do not?

Habebe
Member Fri Sep 18 05:30:16
Have I denied the US needs better funding and management of infrastructure? No. It's been going downhill since the 80s.

I don't get why you seem oblivious to situational differences. Rural vs urban populations, gdp, distance and weather/ natural events etc.

If you really want to compare apples to apples these are few things that sgould be taken into account.

Im not defending the US grids. I'm simply pointing outthese are not good comparisons.

I bet the Vatican also has a great grid, but I wouldn't compare it say Japan's, completely different circumstances.

jergul
large member Fri Sep 18 05:37:21
The glaring difference for infrastructure in general is a willingness to pay taxes.

54% of our GDP is tax revenue
24% of your GDP is tax revenue

Nevermind that the grid is funded directly by customers (the operators upgrade stuff and increase our bill).

jergul
large member Fri Sep 18 05:44:58
The rural urban mix is 17% rural in Norway and 18% rural in the US.

We of course have a different definition of what rural is (our large towns of 50+k meet the minimum for not being considered a rural county in the US)

http://arc.../JoN%202%202010/Karta%202_.jpg

Seb
Member Fri Sep 18 09:23:21
https://twitter.com/TubeTimeUS/status/1306359385656946688?s=19

Serendipitous.

Seb
Member Fri Sep 18 09:23:38
http://twi...tatus/1306359385656946688?s=19

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 11:31:58
Shitty power lines? In California? Like i was saying... thanks seb.

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 11:33:32
"54% of our GDP is tax revenue"

Holy fuck!! You have my deepest sympathy.

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 11:34:57
I hope they at least give you an hiv test after raping you in the ass that baf.

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 11:35:53
Bad

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 11:38:58
"350k households still out of power. Wow."

That it is only 350k is pretty impressive. That was a cat 2 hurricane... winds well beyond the strongest ever recorded for most of europes population centers.

In the US thats... meh... barely makes me the news.

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 11:39:32
Wake me up if its a cat 4... maybe cat 3.

jergul
large member Fri Sep 18 11:47:16
I won't be able to wake you up by turning on the lights, that is for sure.

Rofl@nature controlling you btw. You lack the ambitions of early cavemen discovering fire, let alone the taming of nature mentality that brought Europe greatness.

How was the wording on the statue of "liberty" again?

So true.

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 11:50:39
It is ok to lose residential power when you get hurricane force winds.

It is not ok to get buttraped to the tune of 54% taxes.

Lmao thats so bad... seriously i feel bad for you.

jergul
large member Fri Sep 18 11:58:30
Sammy
That is why you are a savage. You prefer tax breaks to multinational companies ahead of civilization.

You used to have similar tax rates. Back when the US was arguably the greatest country on the planet.

Now look at you. Rofl.

sam adams
Member Fri Sep 18 12:13:58
Exactly wrong again jergul

Except for briefly while we were saving you from germany, the US effective/average tax rate was lower back and has slightly increased with time.

http://car...20In%20Relation%20To%20GDP.GIF

Fortunately it is nowhere near 54%.

Holy shit.

54%!

habebe
Member Fri Sep 18 12:33:46
I dont see why we cant just print more money to fund the I infrastructure *at this precise time*

I say at this precise time because normally we would be fearful of Inflation. However right now we are struggling to reach 2% which means we have some leeway.

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Habebe Member	Fri Sep 18 04:50:38 I don't much care for comparing apples to oranges, Europe in general SHOULD have better reliability of power. If you wanted to compare grids with similar obstacles than like I said Japan would be the closest to the US SE. Atleast in regards to weather. Id bet the Japanese grid is superior to the US SE grid due to funding. Norway would probably better be compared to the UAE as both are small oil states.
jergul large member	Fri Sep 18 05:18:52 Or perhaps Alaska, the Yukon, Nova Scotia and New Foundland? I am always here to help you improve your knowledge of geography. Why can't you wrap your head around the difference being we fund infrastructure properely and you do not?
Habebe Member	Fri Sep 18 05:30:16 Have I denied the US needs better funding and management of infrastructure? No. It's been going downhill since the 80s. I don't get why you seem oblivious to situational differences. Rural vs urban populations, gdp, distance and weather/ natural events etc. If you really want to compare apples to apples these are few things that sgould be taken into account. Im not defending the US grids. I'm simply pointing outthese are not good comparisons. I bet the Vatican also has a great grid, but I wouldn't compare it say Japan's, completely different circumstances.
jergul large member	Fri Sep 18 05:37:21 The glaring difference for infrastructure in general is a willingness to pay taxes. 54% of our GDP is tax revenue 24% of your GDP is tax revenue Nevermind that the grid is funded directly by customers (the operators upgrade stuff and increase our bill).
jergul large member	Fri Sep 18 05:44:58 The rural urban mix is 17% rural in Norway and 18% rural in the US. We of course have a different definition of what rural is (our large towns of 50+k meet the minimum for not being considered a rural county in the US) http://arc.../JoN%202%202010/Karta%202_.jpg
Seb Member	Fri Sep 18 09:23:21 https://twitter.com/TubeTimeUS/status/1306359385656946688?s=19 Serendipitous.
Seb Member	Fri Sep 18 09:23:38 http://twi...tatus/1306359385656946688?s=19
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 11:31:58 Shitty power lines? In California? Like i was saying... thanks seb.
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 11:33:32 "54% of our GDP is tax revenue" Holy fuck!! You have my deepest sympathy.
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 11:34:57 I hope they at least give you an hiv test after raping you in the ass that baf.
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 11:35:53 Bad
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 11:38:58 "350k households still out of power. Wow." That it is only 350k is pretty impressive. That was a cat 2 hurricane... winds well beyond the strongest ever recorded for most of europes population centers. In the US thats... meh... barely makes me the news.
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 11:39:32 Wake me up if its a cat 4... maybe cat 3.
jergul large member	Fri Sep 18 11:47:16 I won't be able to wake you up by turning on the lights, that is for sure. Rofl@nature controlling you btw. You lack the ambitions of early cavemen discovering fire, let alone the taming of nature mentality that brought Europe greatness. How was the wording on the statue of "liberty" again? So true.
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 11:50:39 It is ok to lose residential power when you get hurricane force winds. It is not ok to get buttraped to the tune of 54% taxes. Lmao thats so bad... seriously i feel bad for you.
jergul large member	Fri Sep 18 11:58:30 Sammy That is why you are a savage. You prefer tax breaks to multinational companies ahead of civilization. You used to have similar tax rates. Back when the US was arguably the greatest country on the planet. Now look at you. Rofl.
sam adams Member	Fri Sep 18 12:13:58 Exactly wrong again jergul Except for briefly while we were saving you from germany, the US effective/average tax rate was lower back and has slightly increased with time. http://car...20In%20Relation%20To%20GDP.GIF Fortunately it is nowhere near 54%. Holy shit. 54%!
habebe Member	Fri Sep 18 12:33:46 I dont see why we cant just print more money to fund the I infrastructure at this precise time I say at this precise time because normally we would be fearful of Inflation. However right now we are struggling to reach 2% which means we have some leeway.
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