Utopia Talk / Politics / The US left- against free speech

habebe rank	Thu Sep 24 16:56:26 2020 http://www...9/22/joe-rogan-spotify-strike/ So let's first clarify that Joe Rogan is left leaning centrist by most measures. He openly supported Barney Sanders as well as things like Medicare for all. His threat to the left? He gives a platform for anyone to speak there mind and then openly wants people to debate them. Which is something the Left back in the day would have supported.
Rugian rank	Thu Sep 24 17:09:50 2020 "For Spotify, the decision to offer some concessions may have only emboldened demands for wide-scale editorial oversight." No fucking shit. Appeasement only causes SJWs to become ever-bolder in their demands. These employees are literally attempting to blow up a $100 million deal because they cant handle speech that conflicts with their politics. The proper response by Spotify is to fire all of them and find new workers with less delicate sensibilities.
chuck rank	Thu Sep 24 19:24:49 2020 Sure, some no-fuss right wing programmers are going to come in and do the job. There must be...dozens of them out there given big tech's well known right wing bias. Plus their politics never wind up putting your company in the news. http://www...eveloper-behind-it/ar-BB18XOkk
habebe rank	Thu Sep 24 19:28:39 2020 Or how about people who just don't want to silence JR amd his platform... you know, sort of like how it has been.
obaminated rank	Thu Sep 24 19:32:49 2020 The left is known to suppress speech, its why they riot when a right leaning speaker comes to their campus. They fear opposing views
Hrothgar rank	Fri Sep 25 01:14:13 2020 The right silences with threat of violence. The left silences with overwhelming ridicule and shame.
Habebe rank	Fri Sep 25 01:27:17 2020 Hrothgar, Hum have you seen these rightwing riots?
Hrothgar rank	Fri Sep 25 01:32:23 2020 Also, we live in an amazing time of so. much. information. How does a culture grapple in any sort of healthy way with free speech when it's so utterly infused with purposeful misinformation and manipulation of the population by various state/rich greed based actors? Is it ok that we have Facebook rumor frenzies that have destroyed any semblance of unified action against a pandemic? Is it ok that the freedom of anyone to post anything is now allowing significant foreign intelligence manipulation public attitudes of free western nations? It's one of the biggest challenges of our time. Free speech vs the ability of rumor and maliciously deceptive information to reach huge percentages of the population within hours.
Habebe rank	Fri Sep 25 01:43:32 2020 Well I agree with that. There was a good podcast on the value of freedom of speech. Basically the argument against it was that it doesnt make for a more fair society. Not sure if that was the JRE or not.
Forwyn rank	Fri Sep 25 03:43:21 2020 "The left silences with overwhelming ridicule and shame." Backed by a wall of monolithic corporate entities that are frightened of a vocal minority on Twitter
habebe rank	Fri Sep 25 15:02:23 2020 To add to forwyns post. They take away people's livelihoods and jobs.
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