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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Sep 26 19:09:24
re: last thread... challenge accepted

i strolled over to Trump's twitter, post #2 seems worthy of being noted here:

alleged message from the 'president':

"
On this inaugural National Day of Prayer and Return, the First Lady and I join millions of Christians here in the United States and around the world in prayer, as we turn our hearts to our Lord and Savior.

Our great Nation was founded by men and women of deep and abiding faith—a faith that has stood the test of time. Four hundred years ago, early American settlers trusted their lives to His providence and braved a voyage to a New World. From the pilgrims who sought His protection aboard the Mayflower to the countless believers who today bow their heads to ask for His guidance during these unprecedented times, our country continues to turn to the Lord. Following in our ancestors’ footsteps we continue the “firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence” that provides us enduring strength and reassurance in our times of need.

The trials and tribulations the American people have faced over the past several months have been great. Yet, as we have seen time and again, the resolve of our citizenry—fortified by our faith in God—has guided us through these hardships and helped to unite us as one Nation under God. As we continue to combat the challenges ahead of us, we must remember the sage words of President George Washington during his first Presidential Address: “propitious smiles of heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained.” As a country and a people, let us renew our commitment to these abiding and timeless principles.

Today, I am pleased to join my voice to yours in thanking God for blessing this nation with great power and responsibility. With reverence, humility, and thanksgiving, we beg for His continued guidance and protection.
"


yes, president's use writers, but when has it ever been more clear that things aren't written by the president?

things like this being written in first person just seem offensive, as very doubtful he even read it, let alone contributed to it (& he certainly wasn't praying or 'turning his heart' to any shared 'lord and savior')
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 27 11:42:39
"
I will be strongly demanding a Drug Test of Sleepy Joe Biden prior to, or after, the Debate on Tuesday night. Naturally, I will agree to take one also. His Debate performances have been record setting UNEVEN, to put it mildly. Only drugs could have caused this discrepancy???
"
~ fucking moron

i assume this is caused by him just seeing the video fragments Fox shows of Biden to make him seem completely senile

also it means Trump is probably on drugs as everything he accuses opponents of applies to himself so i hope Biden agrees (although Trump would probably bring in a piss jar from Barr or something)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 27 11:44:45
"
Obamacare will be replaced with a MUCH better, and FAR cheaper, alternative if it is terminated in the Supreme Court. Would be a big WIN for the USA!
"
~ fucking moron

yeah, it will magically get replaced by that non-existent better alternative that congress will swiftly & easily write & pass
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 27 12:01:18
when's the last time 'Pence's taskforce gave a briefing? June maybe?

is everyone informed of how we're doing... in particular, do Trump cultists seem well-informed?

would the public be kept in the dark so much under a real administration?

a total garbage admin, led by a mentally-ill fraud dictator
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 27 12:10:28
You should have plenty of material come Tuesday night, what is it 8 pm?
Rugian
Member
Sun Sep 27 12:17:43
We're not relegating debate talk to this dumpster fire of a series. That shit is getting it's own thread for sure.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 27 13:27:29
is Fox 'News' noting that the 'protecting pre-existing...' executive order does absolutely nothing? or are they happy to help Trump trick the gullible cultists as usual?
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 27 13:32:31
Ive said before HC is there weakness. AFAIK the Reps have no real HC plan.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 27 14:26:20
yeah, it's a -big- weakness... so is Fox informing the public that his plan that was 'coming in 2 weeks' for the past year or so is actually nothing & he is lying about doing something?

it was a major issue in 2018 midterms (which is why he's lying about doing something)

or are they happy to help Trump deceive their viewers?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 27 16:54:16
fucking moron: 'many people are saying Biden is on drugs'
reporter: 'who is saying that?'
fucking moron: 'check out the internet, many people are saying it'


...
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 27 22:49:27
Well, He might be. Biden apparently has been claiming he went to the University of Delaware, but the University claims he was never a student.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Sep 27 23:20:28
DSU (Delaware State University) is the one in question. He was a student at UD.
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 27 23:25:49
The funny thing is if Trump claimed it people would assume he lied. When Biden claims it people assume he forgot where he went to school.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Sep 27 23:28:42
Biden is known to make shit up from time to time. It's not OK or right, but he does it. It has nothing to do with drugs.
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 27 23:30:48
In all fairness, all politicians lie.

He probably just got them mixed up.He has had major brain surgery(ies?) and he is pushing 80.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Sep 27 23:36:04
Your theory is unlikely if you look at the context of when and where he said it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Sep 27 23:36:34
this appears to be the one & only time Biden said it (at least the only instance Fox had, & presumably they would've scoured the archives)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EHWKRol0lA&feature=youtu.be

so not dementia, not even a claim of being a student really, just pandering (so, yes some wrongness)


and Trump does lie about his education... obviously
habebe
Member
Sun Sep 27 23:49:56
He said at a local black school.Sounds evem worse that he likley wqs.confuses abput where he was.
Rugian
Member
Mon Sep 28 08:30:50
Oh look at that, mail-in voting leading to voter fraud.

http://nyp...over-ballot-harvesting-claims/

Almost like Trump was right all along.

Any state that allows mail-in voting should have their results declared illegitimate (unless they break for Trump of course).
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 28 11:47:45
^a 'project veritas' investigation... they have such a great track record...

i watched some of video, a guy w/ some envelopes... unclear what they are

but go ahead, investigate


although Trump already is planning for that illegitimate path, discussing how he could win election based on no votes from the public at all
Rugian
Member
Mon Sep 28 12:20:13
Project Veritas has its biases for sure. Just like the NYT.

We already have multiple instances of alleged vote harvesting going on all across the country. If you dont see mass mail-in voting for the problem it is, then I have a bridge in New York to sell you.
Rugian
Member
Mon Sep 28 12:21:48
Meanwhile, Biden has refused to take a drug test before the debate (what does he have to hide?) and claimed that hes been in the Senate for 180 years.

Poor guy belongs in a home, not on a rostrum.
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 28 12:22:05
Cspan probably is the least bias.

The Hill isn't too bad.
Habebe
Member
Mon Sep 28 12:22:41
Cspan probably is the least bias.

The Hill isn't too bad.
Rugian
Member
Mon Sep 28 12:28:02
Yah The Hill tends to be pretty balanced.

Politico is very anti-Trump due to its Beltway focus, but it at least provides some useful insights into that world.

Most other sites are solidly in one political camp or the other.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 28 18:48:31
Trump wanted Ivanka as his VP in 2016 (according to one of the many criminals on his campaign)

not hard to believe
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 28 18:53:46
As States Prepared Mail-in Ballots, Postal Service Failed to Update at Least 1.8 Million Addresses

For three weeks in August, as election officials across the country were preparing to send out mail-in ballots to tens of millions of voters, the U.S. Postal Service stopped fully updating a national change of address system that most states use to keep their voter rolls current, according to multiple officials who use the system. A USPS spokesperson acknowledged the failure in response to questions from TIME, and said that at least 1.8 million new changes of address had not been registered in the database.

...

The postal service says it fixed the change-of-address issue and restored the missing data on Sept. 14. The USPS spokesperson, Martha Johnson, said the problem did not impact mail carriers’ ability to forward “eligible” mail to a new address. Many states ban the forwarding of election ballots from an old address, however, and the Postal Service did not respond to requests for clarification on the failure’s potential impact on the election. Internal USPS emails shared with TIME describe the source of the problem only as an unexplained “error”.

...

http://tim...t-least-1-8-million-addresses/

good work, postmaster criminal
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Sep 28 22:06:18
"
Top White House officials pressured the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this summer to play down the risk of sending children back to school, a strikingly political intervention in one of the most sensitive public health debates of the pandemic, according to documents and interviews with current and former government officials.
...
"
http://www...e-cdc-coronavirus-schools.html

i didn't read much more...

enough to conclude: we can't trust HHS, FDA nor CDC at all under Trump (nor DNI, USPS, EPA, DOJ,...)

#maga?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 29 11:59:09
'maga cult commandments'

http://pbs...AAVqef?format=jpg&name=900x900

fairly accurate
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Sep 29 16:51:35
so DNI Ratcliffe (Trump shill who has no business being in that role) declassified a doc about Russia claiming Hillary approved a plan to tie Trump to Russian interference

& Fox & Trump supporters running w/ it as proof of something

not like Russia would have a reason to spread disinformation...
Rugian
Member
Wed Sep 30 15:12:29
ABC 7 Chicago
@ABC7Chicago
Study reveals chemical in McDonald's french fries may be cure for baldness: http://abc7.ws/2BeSMmf

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
No wonder I didn’t lose my hair!

----

Lmao
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 30 15:17:47
the mentally-ill narcissist pretending his hair isn't a construction project mess
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 30 15:26:37
Tim Murtaugh member of team Trump (thus a garbage human by definition) claims the commission on debates is changing the rules because Biden beat up so bad & the commission is pro-Biden
(it's a non-partisan group & led by a Republican)

...& multiple R's who typically defend Trump say Trump was bad

yet Timmy claims Trump did spectacular & won the debate citing a Telemundo unscientific poll (also tweeted by Trump)

these people are just so disgusting... nothing is because Trump is pure shit, it's just everyone else is corrupt
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 30 20:40:45
Update: that telemundo poll was a twitter poll

super meaningful
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Sep 30 20:49:11
here's fucking moron (again) claiming Mexico IS paying for his 3 miles of new wall because of a theoretical future toll

http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1311477321577230336?s=21

his presidency could be over soon... so where's the fucking toll he keeps talking about... maybe it's coming in "two weeks" like everything else
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 11:54:41
weird-ass Melania video
http://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/1311655231852351494

guess she instinctively goes into model mode when in front of cameras
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 13:00:07
article on Trump's insulin pricing lie:

"
Early in Tuesday night’s presidential debate, President Trump claimed he had drastically lowered the price of insulin, a lifesaving drug taken in some form by more than 7 million Americans with diabetes.

“Insulin, it’s going to — it was destroying families, destroying people. The cost,” the president said. “I’m getting it for so cheap it’s like water.”

That came as a shock to the Americans who shell out hundreds of dollars a month on insulin, a number of whom posted triple-digit pharmacy bills to social media immediately after the president’s assertion.

“I looked at my husband and slapped my leg and said, ‘Can you believe that!’ ” said Tiffany Garrioch, 36, a public health nurse and educator in Minnesota with Type 1 diabetes, who watched the debate with her family.

“We’re already an underserved and highly vulnerable population,” she said. “To hear the president say it costs as much as water makes us look like we’re crybabies or liars.”

Insulin costs her $36.76 a day, she said. In 2008, it was $9.81.

Insulin prices have ballooned over two decades, including during the Trump administration. A subset of people who will be able to enroll in Medicare drug plans that cap payments at $35 a month would be insulated from those costs. Otherwise a patient with diabetes can spend hundreds of dollars on a monthly insulin supply.

A few decades ago, people could pay about $20 per month for insulin, said Jeremy Greene, a primary care physician and medical historian at Johns Hopkins University. “Insulin prices have been a travesty of American pharmaceutical policy.”

The only way Trump’s statement could not be anything but an “out-and-out fabrication,” Greene said, is if insulin were compared to some of the priciest bottled water on Earth — such as the liquid harvested twice a year from melting Arctic polar ice that the doctor once spotted for sale in a Norway airport.

“The cost of insulin is still high for the majority of Americans who need it to survive,” said Laura Friedman, vice president for federal payment policy at the American Diabetes Association, which supports insurance co-pay caps and Medicaid expansion to help people with diabetes afford the drug.

“The ADA and the millions who are living with diabetes look forward to the day when insulin is affordable so that people can stop suffering from the consequences of dangerous practices like rationing insulin due to exorbitant costs,” she said in a statement.

About 1 in 4 patients with diabetes report underusing insulin because of financial pressure, which “effectively means that they are trying to make their insulin stretch, or having difficulty buying groceries or paying utility bills,” said physician Jing Luo, a professor at the University of Pittsburgh’s Center for Pharmaceutical Policy and Prescribing.

Switching to cheaper but less effective forms of insulin, or rationing it, can be devastating. People with diabetes can suffer strokes, kidney failure or death without sufficient insulin.

“The consequence of the untenable price of insulin can be measured in body counts,” Greene said.

Three companies — Eli Lilly, Novo Nordisk and Sanofi — dominate the market for insulin.

Insulin sold by Novo Nordisk, under the brand name NovoLog, was priced at $40 per vial in 2001 and rose to $289 in 2018, as The Washington Post reported last year. Eli Lilly’s Humalog insulin was $275 a vial as of last year, up from $21 when it entered the market in 1996. Sanofi’s Lantus was up to $270 a vial last year from $35 when it debuted in 2001. A box of Lantus exceeds $1,000 in the United States, Luo pointed out, “yet that same box lists under $100 at any Canadian pharmacy without a prescription.”

The three drugmakers have reduced the cost of insulin for some patients who have lost jobs, health insurance or both as a result of the pandemic. But attempts to encourage the industry to rein in insulin prices have been largely unsuccessful, Greene said, with manufacturers blaming the third-party companies that manage insurance benefits, and those middlemen in turn blaming the manufacturers.

Earlier this year, the Food and Drug Administration approved a generic biologic form of a long-lasting insulin drug, which can be purchased for about a third of the price of the brand-name equivalent.

This was progress — but “not progress attributable to Trump,” Greene said.
"

http://www...2020/09/30/trump-insulin-cost/
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 13:26:24
"Why would I allow the Debate Commission to change the rules for the second and third Debates when I easily won last time?"
~ fucking moron (& dictator)


hey, i didn't follow the rules & couldn't be shamed into doing so, but how dare you try to force me to follow them

(plus i'll pretend i won the debate as i'm mentally ill & must always project being the best ever)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 15:20:36
weird shit i missed in debate (not all feeds showed it)
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1311548745918541824
jergul
large member
Thu Oct 01 15:41:53
A trump jr.-palin ticket for 2024 would be nice. She just claimed she can see 2022 from her house.
habebe
Member
Thu Oct 01 16:00:52
If there is a femalw on the ticket it will be Ivanka.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 16:04:48
Nikki Haley seems to want it... & Chris Christie

basically all the people who should know better yet embrace Trump

hopefully they are both ruined though... & all the others... there is no excuse in propping up someone they know is total trash
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 16:56:49
finally...


LANSING – Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has filed charges today against two political operatives for allegedly orchestrating a series of robocalls aimed at suppressing the vote in the November general election.

Jack Burkman, 54, and Jacob Wohl, 22, are each charged with:

- One count of election law – intimidating voters, a five-year felony;
- One count of conspiracy to commit an election law violation, a five-year felony;
- One count of using a computer to commit the crime of election law – intimidating voters, a seven-year felony; and
- Using a computer to commit the crime of conspiracy, a seven-year felony.

...
http://www...9-92297_99936-541052--,00.html

hopefully Wohl has or will be charged w/ lots of other things too for all his scams

the call:

"Hi, this is Tamika Taylor from Project 1599, the civil rights organization founded by Jack Burkman and Jacob Wohl. Mail-in voting sounds great but did you know that if you vote by mail your personal information will be part of a public database that will be used by police departments to track down old warrants and be used for credit card companies to collect outstanding debts? The CDC is even pushing to use records from mailing voting to track people for mandatory vaccines don't be finessed into giving your private information to 'the man'. Stay safe and beware of vote by mail."

went out to other states too
habebe
Member
Thu Oct 01 17:01:19
Inlike Haley. She was ok as Governor. Christie is cool too.

Has anyone ever had info they used for voting by mail against them by the cops? It likley has.

Same goes with donating blood.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 17:07:34
there would be no reason to use specifically 'vote by mail' info

they would either use voter registration info or they wouldn't
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 21:17:40
Hope 'Monica Lewinski' Hicks tested positive for covid

there's recent video of her walking with Stephen 'KKK' Miller and Jared 'Satan' Kushner to Marine One (all maskless of course, as is mandated under the idiocy administration)

go get em all, lil virus! (though Satan presumably immune)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 21:20:24
Trump is putting the blame on the military and police who protect them, saying those people all want to come close and thank him for doing such a great job. (paraphrase of his call into Hannity)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 22:10:06
here's the exact quote
http://twitter.com/ccadelago/status/1311849912280190976?s=21

can't possibly be related to the terrible example Trump sets and that everyone around him has to follow to stay in his favor

like the 'if you're one of us, you'll take a bite' Seinfeld episode
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 01 23:33:09
"who gives a fuck about christmas stuff & decorations?"
~Melania

@ (0:20)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_O9KUXlpsw

war on Christmas!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 03 16:21:42
one of Trump's violent horde of cultists
http://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1312486807670386688
Rugian
Member
Mon Oct 05 11:30:45
High energy!

-----

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH (BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME). VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
SAVE OUR SECOND AMENDMENT. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
FIGHT THE CORRUPT FAKE NEWS MEDIA. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
PROTECT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
BETTER & CHEAPER HEALTHCARE. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
PRO LIFE! VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
MASSIVE REGULATION CUTS. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
SPACE FORCE. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
BEST V.A. EVER. 91% APPROVAL RATING. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
401(K). VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
BIGGEST TAX CUT EVER, AND ANOTHER ONE COMING. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
LAW & ORDER. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
STRONGEST EVER MILITARY. VOTE!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
5h
STOCK MARKET HIGHS. VOTE!
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 05 11:52:50
^this is your prez on (more) drugs


also... 'PROTECT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS'? fuck you, you deliberately deceiving fraud

& yeah, more tax cuts will solve that massive deficit issue he caused... another fraud promise
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 05 17:02:05
"“You see it in enthusiasm for the President outside Walter Reed Hospital. You see it in Registrations, from Florida to Pennsylvania & West Virginia, where Republicans are outstripping Democrats by 2 to 1. If the President bounces back onto the campaign trail, he will be an....

...invincible hero, who not only survived every dirty trick the Democrats threw at him, but the Chinese virus as well. He will show America we no longer have to be afraid.” mdevine@nypost.com

Thank you Miranda. Was over until the Plague came in from China. Will win anyway!"
~ fucking moron

so i guess that's the messaging he'll go with unsurprisingly... invincible hero

and posting her email address for some reason, i guess they frequently send her messages of how to praise him or something
(usually [always] people put just their twitter profile)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 05 17:04:16
"
I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
"
~ fucking moron

(posted in other thread, but belongs in this thread too)

go get covid! you'll feel great!

& why didn't some other administration make really great drugs for it? thanks Trump!!!
Rugian
Member
Mon Oct 05 17:23:50
President: *presents a message of optimism and hope in these tough times*

TW: UNFIT LYING IDIOT

President: *says that riots in our cities are out of control*

TW: UNFIT PANIC-INSTILLING IDIOT
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 05 17:35:53
deliberate deception in both cases

i'm against deliberate deception... in fact i'd say that's my primary issue... & he does it pretty much every time he speaks, hence my massive problem with him

w/ his incompetence coming in 2nd... (learning nothing about any issue, choosing to just gather info from -entertainment- shows on Fox, and just a surface level grasp even with those)

i mean his right-hand expert on the virus is the radiologist he saw on Fox (no experience in the field... how fucking ridiculous...)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 05 17:41:00
"Will be back on the Campaign Trail soon!!! The Fake News only shows the Fake Polls."
~ fucking moron

"here's a real poll where i'm winning"... (done never)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 05 23:38:50
"The White House has refused to accept proposed new FDA guidelines that could delay an emergency vaccine approval until after the election."
http://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1313259190610268161

that'll inspire confidence...
Habebe
Member
Mon Oct 05 23:53:20
some reporter claims* Don JR and Ivanka want to give Trump an intervention. Not sure how he would know this info...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 05 23:57:18
i just noticed "BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME" is in that Trump list... he's had 4 years to act on it & failed to do so, why give him 4 more years?


who is the some reporter?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 12:51:15
Trump develeped the tests & therapeutics
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1313288836504580108
...so that's the work he's been doing when seemingly doing nothing!... his uncle worked at MIT you know
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 14:24:35
"
Nancy Pelosi is asking for $2.4 Trillion Dollars to bailout poorly run, high crime, Democrat States, money that is in no way related to COVID-19. We made a very generous offer of $1.6 Trillion Dollars and, as usual, she is not negotiating in good faith. I am rejecting their...

...request, and looking to the future of our Country. I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating until after the election when, immediately after I win, we will pass a major Stimulus Bill that focuses on hardworking Americans and Small Business. I have asked...

...@senatemajldr Mitch McConnell not to delay, but to instead focus full time on approving my outstanding nominee to the United States Supreme Court, Amy Coney Barrett. Our Economy is doing very well. The Stock Market is at record levels, JOBS and unemployment...

...also coming back in record numbers. We are leading the World in Economic Recovery, and THE BEST IS YET TO COME!
"
~ fucking moron


you have to vote for him to get your money, peons (& he's promising to give money in like 3+ ways, shameless)... plus he's clearly still in love with that ridiculous Guilfoyle speech

there's absolutely no good reason to end negotiations... just another ploy he thinks will get him votes
habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 14:36:51
Does anyone know what the 800 billion dollar discrepency os about? that is almosy.another trillion.
habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 14:37:52
I'd rather see that 800 billion go to infrastructure. Which it may, IDK.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 14:57:01
if you want infrastructure, vote Biden

Trump dangled that for 4 years w/ no action on it, he could've pushed R's into it like he pushes them into other shit
habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 15:00:36
Biden was VP for 8 years, didnt get infrastructure then.... why should I think either will now?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 15:02:36
also this was 3 days ago...

"OUR GREAT USA WANTS & NEEDS STIMULUS. WORK TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE. Thank you!"

obviously no rational decision-making as usual

just shout out shit
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 18:17:41
in reply to one of Trump's recent ('i had to go out & recklessly ignore & discourage precautions to lead') videos:

"I will never love another President again!"
~ capo Matt Gaetz (a congressman)

http://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1313272714958954496

is anyone still staying this isn't a cult?
Habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 18:24:44
Cult of personality? Yes. But so was Obama and Reagan to lesser degrees.

FDR wqs Probably the worst dragging the US into an umeanted war.
Habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 18:28:28
HRC probanly would have been worse than Trump too.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 18:28:30
maybe far lesser degrees... there is NO equivalence here
Rugian
Member
Tue Oct 06 18:33:40
habebe, don't be ridiculous. What do you possibly find to be cult-like about stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsV2O4fCgjk
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 19:03:49
out of curiosity, what inspirational message do you associate with Trump?

'fake news!'?
'hoax!'?
'they spied on my campaign!'?
Habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 19:26:12
FDR definitley. Reagan's CoP was more of an after thing.

I looked up the definition, kind of useless to use the dictionary definition that is so vague that ALL leaders would be considered.

In the black community Obama was definitley a cult of personality.
Rugian
Member
Tue Oct 06 19:31:28
"In the black community Obama was definitley a cult of personality."

Never mind the black community, college kids LOVED the guy back in the day.

Really what tw is saying is that he doesn't mind cults at all; he just prefers that they're endorsed by celebrities (given that celebrity worship is the new "orthodox religion" of 21st century America). Obama was a perfect example of an "orthodox" cult as he was endorsed by all the "right" people; therefore getting a thrill up your leg just from hearing him speak was acceptable behavior.

Heterodox cults like Trump's, on the other hand, lack legitimacy, because Hollywood has formally condemned them as heretical. Hence was someone wearing a MAGA hat is "cultish," but someone wearing an Obama tee-shirt and swooning at the site of his chiseled man-chest is an "enthusiastic voter."
Rugian
Member
Tue Oct 06 19:32:19
tumbleweed
the wanderer Tue Oct 06 19:03:49
out of curiosity, what inspirational message do you associate with Trump?

-MAGA
-KAGA
-"Don't be afraid of Covid"
Habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 19:38:42
Rugian, They did, but its different. The Murals, the tv shirts, coins, chess sets etc. Elevates it to the cult of personality IMO.

Which is why I said Reagan's wasnt really a Cop wasn't until after he left office...


My dad flies a Trump flag with Trump as Rambo.
Habebe
Member
Tue Oct 06 19:39:28
The black community sees Obama as a near prophet.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 19:46:43
MAGA was a slogan stolen from Reagan

and the Trump cult bears no similarity to anyone else that I'm aware of
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 19:48:01
...and Trump promotes any celebrity at all that supports him... they just tend to be of Scott Baio quality
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 06 22:52:07
Trump tacking hard back...

"If I am sent a Stand Alone Bill for Stimulus Checks ($1,200), they will go out to our great people IMMEDIATELY. I am ready to sign right now. Are you listening Nancy?"


steady leadership

also, it's R's who oppose stimulus checks... fucking piece of shit fraud liar

& i imagine we'd have Trump's big fat name for some reason on those checks too (and/or the letter taking credit)... Trump trying to buy votes
Habebe
Member
Wed Oct 07 05:03:54
TW, Just when I thought Trump slipped, he pulls a fast one.

He took the three most important/liked provisions of the bill and called there bluff.

Its actually a smart move, it takes away Pelosi's leverage to add shit into the bill and puts the blame on her if she says no.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 12:30:09
was saying cancel the negotiations sensible too? seems like he had a horrible idea & just tweeted it out, then adults were like "whoa!" (as has happened before)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 12:30:39
"
NOW THAT THE RADICAL LEFT DEMOCRATS GOT CAUGHT COLD IN THE (NON) FRIENDLY TRANSFER OF GOVERNMENT, IN FACT, THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN AND WENT FOR A COUP, WE ARE ENTITLED TO ASK THE VOTERS FOR FOUR MORE YEARS. PLEASE REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE!
"
~ fucking moron on drugs

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 12:35:51
there are heaps upon heaps of tweets/retweets about the alleged 'coup' mostly involving corrupt piece of shit Ratcliffe (DNI who has no business being DNI) releasing a document thats ~90% redacted but showing parts about Hillary wanting to stir up Russia collusion stuff

(probably the same exact thing as before which is that it's all according -to Russia-... let's see if we see the unredacted parts, Trump said to declassify everything as the fucking moron buys the made-up coup theory... i imagine declassifying would mess up Ratcliffe's little ploy though)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 12:36:31
"
DEMS WANT TO SHUT YOUR CHURCHES DOWN, PERMANENTLY. HOPE YOU SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING. VOTE NOW!
"
~ fucking liar on drugs
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 12:38:21
"
Vote TRUMP California. No more blackouts, shutdowns, ridiculous forrest fires, or water “rationing” (coming soon). We can win in California NOW!
"
~ delusional fraud on drugs


i guess he will end 'forrest' fires w/ that raking plan... that he didn't put in place his first term...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 12:39:31
...i'm sure i missed lots of insanity, there's tons of shit on his feed, i skipped over most of the coup bullshit
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 13:25:01
"
Wow!!! NOW DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS (IN HISTORY)!!! BIDEN, OBAMA AND CROOKED HILLARY LED THIS TREASONOUS PLOT!!! BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN - GOT CAUGHT!!!
"
~ psycho unfit delusional fraud liar on drugs replying to a -Jan 2018- coup post...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 07 17:41:09
in a video, Trump promises everyone will get free Regeneron (which is the name of the company) as it's a cure (he didn't die yet, so obviously it will cure everyone)

and sliding out that the vaccine won't be before election, instead will be "right after" (which also is a lie), and blaming it on politics obviously

http://twi...ump/status/1313959702104023047
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 00:55:36
"
Been watching Utah TV and the state's branding of masks is very simple and effective: "Wear a mask to stay open." Close your eyes and you can imagine a Trump approach that would have taken him down a very different path.
"
~WaPo reporter

yep
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 18:18:41
so fucking moron retweeted one of his shitbag followers in the House who commented about Pelosi mentioning 25th amendment:


"I wouldn’t put it past @SpeakerPelosi to stage a coup.

She has already weaponized impeachment, what’s to keep her from weaponizing the 25th amendment?

We need a new Speaker!"


but later fucking moron also retweeted a response by an adult to that idiocy:

"The 25th Amendment does not work that way, and it’s also not a “coup” to use it"


fucking moron is a fucking moron
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 18:35:42
Trump telling Barr to indict Obama & Biden & others for the greatest political crime in USA history... says they have all the evidence they need

http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1314179601795624961

nothing remotely criminal shown so far, of course

crazy unfit... doubleplus crazy... levels of crazy are off the charts here...
(& yes he's basically done this repeatedly before, although R's pretend he's not saying what he's definitely saying)

& i'm sure kargen & obaminated are cool w/ it
CrownRoyal
Member
Thu Oct 08 19:09:39

Trump Says Gold Star Families May Have Infected Him With COVID-19


http://www...=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

Donald is magnificent, never disappoints
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 20:33:10
that way it's not his fault, and he's being compassionate letting them get close to bask in his glory

makes little sense though given all the people from the event the prior day testing positive
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 08 22:02:04
"Biden is against Oil, Guns and Religion, a very bad combination to be fighting in the Great State of Texas. We are Winning Big, in the Real Polls, all over the Country!!! NOVEMBER 3rd. VOTE!!!"
~ fucking fraud

disgraceful lies as usual

are you cultists believing those 'real' polls exist? how does he not just look stupid to you? and like a completely obvious fraud...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 09 13:52:49
arms dealer Trump did not win the nobel peace prize... & that's despite not knowing anything about those 2 normalization deals w/ Israel & his repeated claims of getting us out of wars even though he hasn't... rigged!!!


it went to the WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME "for its efforts to combat hunger, for its contribution to bettering conditions for peace in conflict-affected areas and for acting as a driving force in efforts to prevent the use of hunger as a weapon of war and conflict."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 09 14:19:10
fiscally conservative (& in no way trying to buy votes) Trump told Rush Limbaugh he wants bigger stimulus bills than both the D's & the R's proposing

[Mitch face-palm]
Rugian
Member
Fri Oct 09 14:22:38
"Trump did not win the nobel peace prize...rigged!!!"

Please dont steal my lines.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 09 14:34:18
that 'SWEDNE IS THE ENEMY' is about it so you can post it there


Trump is continuing w/ ridiculous election claims like Dem states may not send ballots to R's...

plus crazy Obamagate shit & even Hillary's emails...

totally mentally fit prez
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