Utopia Talk / Politics / SWEDNE IS THE ENEMY!

Average Ameriacn Member	Fri Oct 09 05:22:43 You not only deny our leader the peace prize he has earned, you also give it to ouzr enemy! http://www...warded-to-world-food-programme The 2020 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the World Food Programme. The citation said the humanitarian organization, a part of the United Nations, is receiving the prize "for its efforts to combat hunger, for its contribution to bettering conditions for peace in conflict-affected areas and for acting as a driving force in efforts to prevent the use of hunger as a weapon of war and conflict."
Paramount Member	Fri Oct 09 08:29:49 Not really sure why, but it is Norway who decides on the Peace Prize.
Paramount Member	Fri Oct 09 08:43:46 Anyhow, it looks like Trump is a loser. He failed to win. If we look at Obama, he won the prize easily. Like a true winner. Not sure what the World Food Programme does, but maybe they are feeding terrorists in Africa and in the ME. Who knows who gets to eat all the food.
jergul large member	Fri Oct 09 08:49:13 Para Union until 1905. When were the prizes established?
Paramount Member	Fri Oct 09 09:01:59 In 1901. It just says ” In accordance with Alfred Nobel's will, the recipient is selected by the Norwegian Nobel Committee”. So all I know is that Nobel wanted Norway to select the peace prize winners. But why? Didn’t he trust Sweden to do it?
Paramount Member	Fri Oct 09 09:05:02 Okay, we were in a Union in 1901. So he thought Norway should have something too.
jergul large member	Fri Oct 09 09:06:17 Because of Norway-Sweden were in a political union. So some committees to Sweden and one to Norway. You are asking this like wondering why people in Skåne are allowed to vote in national elections.
jergul large member	Fri Oct 09 09:06:44 You got it in your second try :)
Paramount Member	Fri Oct 09 09:16:41 Yeah I got it finally. I’m a bit slow :)
Habebe Member	Fri Oct 09 09:21:57 " Fri Oct 09 08:43:46 Anyhow, it looks like Trump is a loser. He failed to win." Hahahaha, preparw for sanctions and a twittwr war. Also Trump will personally pollute enough to counter any carbon savings Sweden and Norway attempt.
Rugian Member	Fri Oct 09 14:40:14 Quoting tw from the other thread: "Trump did not win the nobel peace prize...rigged!!!" Not what I'd typically expect from him, but I welcome it.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Oct 09 16:17:45 nobody promotes peace & brotherhood more than TRUMP!
jergul large member	Fri Oct 09 21:58:40 David Beasley is incidentally a strong trump supporter in the last election. So lets call the peace prize a half win for Trump.
Habebe Member	Sat Oct 10 09:56:37 http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-54437222 Speaking of Kushner brokering peace in the ME, Saudi Arabia is leaning towards joining in on the UAE/Bahrain deal which would be that whole area minus Yemen. Kushner accomplished what no one had been able to do since the 50s. Now some of that is that the Israelis are only encroaching on Palestinians. While Iran/Shia is encroaching on the whole area, o uniting is a good strategy. The enemy of my enemy is my friend so the old adage says. Sunni nations are much more accepting of the US, and are in general more stable, so lets sell them f35s and let them blow Hezzbollah off the map.
Paramount Member	Sat Oct 10 10:22:40 ”Sunni nations are much more accepting of the US” Lol It was sunni muslims who attacked you on 9/11. It is sunni muslims who has carried out attacks in Europe the past years. ISIS are sunni muslims. Al-Qaida are sunnis. But yet, the US sides with them. Or should I say, Zionist Israel and the King of ISIS makes the US sides with them.
habebe Member	Sat Oct 10 10:25:35 Paramount, Your confusing Sunni extremists with Sunni nations. Shia extremists run Iran, the Saudis, Egyptians, Jordanians etc. are all easier to deal with than Iran.
habebe Member	Sat Oct 10 10:26:55 The US fuck up was taking out Saddaam, he kept the Shias in line.
Paramount Member	Sat Oct 10 10:30:08 ” The US fuck up was taking out Saddaam, he kept the Shias in line.” Yeah because if Saddam was still there he would have stopped THE SHIA MUSLIMS from carrying out terrorist attacks in Europe :))))))
Paramount Member	Sat Oct 10 10:32:57 ” Shia extremists run Iran” The ones who governs Iran are no more extreme than the ones who govern Saudi Arabia.
habebe Member	Sat Oct 10 10:33:58 He definitley kept Hezbollah im check, they have thrived with him dead and have been expanding clout. Also when Irans clerics took power they had a destabilizing effect on Wahabiists which then became more religious/nutty.
habebe Member	Sat Oct 10 10:37:58 Well, that's debatable but regardless. Saudi Arabia we can work with, Iran is hostile to us and has been since 79. Iran is run by Clerics. SA is run by brokered deal bwtween the Wahabi clerica and the house of Saud.
jergul large member	Sat Oct 10 10:46:36 Boy do you not understand Iran.
habebe Member	Sat Oct 10 11:05:29 Tehran Jergul at our service. Basically, as I see it we have a way forward with the Sunni nations. Yeah they have extremists, but so do we (IE governor Whitmer plot) But The king and Prince don't hold rallies calling for the death of the US. You can't negotiate with that. So what do we do? well regime change is out of the question for many reasons, but it would be preferred if the regime toppled by other means.If not we just try to contain them and impoverish them as much as possible.
jergul large member	Sat Oct 10 11:08:46 Until january at least and the US rejoins the Iran deal.
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