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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 09 15:38:35
Trump is demanding the State Dept release Hillary's emails

(it's actually 2020 for the cyber-archaeologists unearthing this thread)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 09 15:53:24
and lapdog Pompeo making it clear he's obeying & wanting to do it for election purposes...


PERINO: Will that happen before the election?

POMPEO: Doing it as fast as we can. I certainly, I certainly think there'll be more to see before the election


i'm sure it will be super relevant stuff
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 10 12:58:02
so the delusional roided up fraud is going to deliver a message pope-style from the balcony to the masses in yet another fully inappropriate campaign event using the White House

...& complete with lying by them that it won't be a campaign event
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 10 13:05:22
he's doing a terrible job of not sounding like a campaign event... i wonder if they even told him to tamp down campaign rhetoric... or maybe his team just enjoys bald-faced lying to the media (probably do)

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 10 13:11:56
"the virus is disappearing, it's going away"

his continual message since May... based on nothing...

how does anyone think he's fit for office?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 10 22:38:35
"
The Department of Justice will ignore the President's threats against his political opponents, as it has in the past, because prosecutors who take an oath to support and defend the Constitution must uphold the rule of law.
"
~ Rod Rosenstein

probably the closest we'll get to a rebuke... & no reason to think proven corrupt Barr is on the same page
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 11 12:19:56
"Mr. President, I have reported on Fox Business before that my medical sources have told me that Joe Biden had two brain aneurysms. Not one, but two brain aneurysms. I pray to God it’s not true but my medical sources are solid…Do you believe that he should be disclosing that, and are you willing to commit to telling us any issues that may have been in the past for you if he comes clean and tells us exactly what is the issue in terms of any mental issues that we need to know about?"
~ Maria Bartiromo interviewing Trump yet again

public knowledge from 1988... represented as some current hidden secret

good job Fox
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 11 13:31:29
"A total and complete sign off from White House Doctors yesterday. That means I can’t get it (immune), and can’t give it. Very nice to know!!!"
~ fucking (lil boy) moron


any long term immunity is not established, as he of all people -should- know, but as with sooooo many things he has no idea (or is just lying, as he also does ridiculously often)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 01:38:07
slimebag R's are setting up fake ballot drop boxes around California, prob will happen other states too

http://www...ate-worry-elections-officials/

so put some effort into verification if using one
habebe
Member
Mon Oct 12 01:50:10
Not directly Trumps words, but ballot related.

Texas like two days ago, stopped the governor from allowing one ballot box per county, now its back again to one ballot box.

Just pointing again my thought that ballot rules are too inconsistent and many more ballots than usual will be discarded.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 02:23:16
i didn't want to make a thread just for it so stuck it here


same for this post... as has come up in other threads, openly corrupt shitbag Mitch taking credit for keeping open judicial spots:
http://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1315293590713663489
habebe
Member
Mon Oct 12 02:27:42
"i didn't want to make a thread just for it so stuck it here"

I do that alot in these threads. Also I feel like we have been on thread 48 for like 6 months, this should.be thread #72.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 11:57:40
i don't sift through his tweets as much... but be assured they are still as unfit & stupid as before
habebe
Member
Mon Oct 12 12:09:29
Probably better for your sanity.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 12:20:57
probably... but browsing now anyway :p

"
We will have Healthcare which is FAR BETTER than ObamaCare, at a FAR LOWER COST - BIG PREMIUM REDUCTION. PEOPLE WITH PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS WILL BE PROTECTED AT AN EVEN HIGHER LEVEL THAN NOW. HIGHLY UNPOPULAR AND UNFAIR INDIVIDUAL MANDATE ALREADY TERMINATED. YOU’RE WELCOME!
"
~ TOTALLY OBVIOUS CONMAN

he has shared no detail ever... 'far better care at far lower price!!! order now & get a free covid cure!! but wait there's more...'

"pre-existing conditions will be protected at even higher level than now"... seriously? he has no idea what it even means, & it seems like you would -definitely- be able to explain how you would protect them even more if you actually had any plan to do so (he so clearly does not)

such an OBVIOUS FRAUD, all the time... how can anyone vote for him...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 12:27:58
he seems panicked or manic from all his roids...

i scrolled through a ton, then noticed they were still saying only 3 hrs old

the crazy mother fucker is retweeting the same posts he made just a few hours prior

& they are super quality ones like "California is going to hell. Vote Trump!" & "New York has gone to hell. Vote Trump!"

sure buddy, you're going to win NY & CA

a full-on lunatic conman is our 'president'
Rugian
Member
Mon Oct 12 12:51:07
FACT: California and New York would both be solid red states if it weren't for illegal immigrants (Mexicans/Puerto Ricans) committing massive amounts of voter fraud on behalf of their Democratic paymasters.

http://abc7.com/trump-sign-

http://nypost.com/2020/10/03/trump-supporters-across-new-york-hold-get-well-rallies-parades/
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 13:27:49
rather than a pitch of 'they've gone/going to hell' (w/ hims as 'president') so give him 4 more years

he should say "if you go red, i'll start paying attention to your problems & giving you aid... as i've made very clear, i only care about states that voted for me"
Rugian
Member
Mon Oct 12 13:30:14
That sounds like a quid pro quo. Trump doesn't do those.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 16:17:34
photo from Trump's florida rally... a typical level of masklessness & non-distancing...

http://pbs...XYAAN0QE?format=jpg&name=large

he successfully learned nothing, requiring masks would cause a panic i guess

as he now feels immune, i imagine he'd have fewer precautions than before if that was possible... but it isn't
Rugian
Member
Mon Oct 12 16:23:18
^A bunch of self-sufficient men and women making informed decisions for themselves as to whether to wear a mask or not.

The horror! They should be giving into fear and panic and blindly obeying the government.

habebe
Member
Mon Oct 12 16:28:29
In all fairness I have to admit we let people do way more dangerous shit than not wearing a mask every day.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 16:29:23
i'm pretty sure they are not making informed decisions...

& they will leave that rally evenly more misinformed (& more diseased on average)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 17:25:14
Trump has learned something!!!... he closed an umbrella!!!
http://twitter.com/therecount/status/1315754640244387840

maybe covid is like those worms in Fry's truck stop sandwich from Futurama & has improved him... i'm sure we all know the reference
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 18:27:15
Gov DeSantis at the event maskless & high-fiving

http://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1315770048431226891

exercising any precautions is for losers
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 18:58:30
Trump has won 3 or 4 Nobel Peace Prizes... something the fake news not reporting for some reason
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1315803072333934593

he's done a lot of pretending nominations are basically winning on twitter too... now just tossing the 'nominations' part out altogether
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 22:22:21
and of course Trump saying Mexico is paying for the wall (apparently no mention of the theoretical toll this time... just fucking lie... you be you)
http://twitter.com/acyn/status/1315800238855086080?s=21
...and acting disgusted the media isn't mentioning the thing that isn't happening
Habebe
Member
Mon Oct 12 22:23:44
Seriously, smoking a cigarette is likely as dangerous ( at least close)

Or not washing your hands.
Habebe
Member
Mon Oct 12 22:24:41
That said, its a simple task that I do nd support others to do. Wear a mask wash your hands.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 22:41:18
there's no indication Trump cultists have any factual information about the pandemic... how could they? they only listen to Trump as the news is fake & Trump spews constant misinformation

a responsible person would minimally urge precautions if not mandate them... Trump hasn't & won't ever do so

(plus always deliberate packing of seats close together as crowd size is all he cares about... he mentions it EVERY rally)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 22:44:10
...Trump actually has done worse than nothing by repeatedly questioning usefulness of masks & crazily claiming the CDC director misspoke about them (he didn't)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Oct 12 23:42:39
“If you have a flare-up in a certain area—I call them burning embers—boom, we put it out. We know how to put it out now.”
~fucking moron... -April 29-

plus lying about vaccine timeline & now lying about a free cure... all giving people reason to ignore precautions

constant ridiculous made-up bullshit that NO real president would be saying
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 00:57:33
Two ethics groups are calling on the House of Representatives to begin impeachment proceedings against Attorney General William Barr, alleging he has used the role for political reasons to support President Trump.

According to Reuters, the two groups are the University of Pennsylvania’s Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law and the Washington-based Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

The groups wrote in a 267-page research paper that Barr has an "authoritarian worldview" that "makes him see himself as entitled to ignore laws, ethics, and historical practices" as the attorney general. The report also called on House lawmakers to begin an impeachment inquiry into Barr.

The report from the group points to Barr's involvement in the release of the final findings of former special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, among other actions.

http://the...hment-proceedings-against-barr

...assuming he's not dead from covid, not sure he's been heard from lately
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 14:14:37
Sen Chuck Grassley attempting to send probably a private message to Trump:

"
.@realdonaldtrump I suggest u use pocket card at podium w 5 short sentences on what u’ve accomplished 5 things that differentiate u from Biden 5 things u will accomplish in next 4 yrs Focusing on these simple highlights will help ur msg &only take 5mins then say whatever u want
"

http://twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/1316086760821207041

not terrible advice... Trump completely incapable of doing it though... would be his crazy over the top claims of 'i did more than anybody ever', then crazy claims about what Biden allegedly wants, & not sure he has yet figured out any plans for the next 4 years (other than the greater healthcare at lower cost w/ better protections that will magically appear)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 14:38:10
"STIMULUS! Go big or go home!!!"
~ fucking moron

about a week after he told his team to cancel stimulus negotiations

...and it's R's wanting the smaller package, so Trump on the side of the D's (even saying he wants more $ send out than D's asking for)

(not that he's putting any muscle behind it, just wants voters to think he'd give them lots of $)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 16:20:19
Trump retweet:
"Hiden Biden and Obama may have had Seal Team 6 killed! EXPLOSIVE: CIA Whistleblower Exposes Biden’s Alleged Role with the Deaths of Seal Team- Claims to have Documented Proof. RETWEET!!!"

sounds legit

has a linked article which i'm not clicking on from 'djhjmedia.com'

one assessment of that site:
"Overall, we rate DJHJ Media extreme right biased and Questionable based on the use of poor sources, promotion of propaganda, and conspiracy theories as well as consistent one-sided sensationalized reporting."


that's the President of the United States putting that out to the entire world

that's ridiculously unfit

anyone disagree?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 16:25:30
^& that's been up at least 10 hrs (& counting)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 17:44:05
so fucking moron tweeted this a week ago:

"I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax. Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!"


the DOJ has gone to court to say he didn't do that & that the tweet has no meaning (despite being an official statement by the 'president')

...this problem would happen w/ no other president

ridiculously unfit


DOJ court document in this tweet
http://twitter.com/JasonLeopold/status/1316121816130174976
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 17:47:34
...and fucking moron also made this tweet:
"All Russia Hoax Scandal information was Declassified by me long ago. Unfortunately for our Country, people have acted very slowly, especially since it is perhaps the biggest political crime in the history of our Country. Act!!!"


which DOJ also saying is a lie & meaningless

so normal
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 17:53:46
"
The federal prosecutor appointed by Attorney General William P. Barr to review whether Obama-era officials improperly requested the identities of individuals whose names were redacted in intelligence documents has completed his work without finding any substantive wrongdoing, according to people familiar with the matter.

The revelation that U.S. Attorney John Bash, who left the department last week, had concluded his review without criminal charges or any public report will rankle President Trump at a moment when he is particularly upset at the Justice Department. The department has so far declined to release the results of Bash’s work, though people familiar with his findings say they would likely disappoint conservatives who have tried to paint the “unmasking” of names — a common practice in government to help understand classified documents — as a political conspiracy.
"
http://www...b-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html

what a shock... it's almost like that was determined already when Nunes first tossed it out as an outrage story... or the 2nd time...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 23:04:11
fucking moron also retweeted this out:

"
Benghazi whistleblower Nick Noe (@scienceismymuse
)

-three former CIA Directors involved in keeping bin Laden alive in Iran, moved him from Iran to Pakistan for Obama's trophy kill
-Payments to Iran were related

Full interview
https://youtu.be/f_VQ0CP2S5U
"

alleging Iran had Bin Laden & was going to give him to us but Hillary & Biden paid Iran to have him moved to Pakistan to get a trophy kill

i'm sure Trump made sure this was solid info before tweeting it


Trump is getting worse... today was the most ridiculous day of tweeting yet
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Oct 13 23:54:41
according to Jeffrey Toobin they aren't even going to write a report on that unmasking investigation (noted above Tue Oct 13 17:53:46) as so little to mention

not an ideal source, but i guess we'll see... or not see...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 12:25:51
"
Let me get this straight:

WH Counsel’s office had to instruct The Justice Dept to ignore Donald Trump after he tweeted dangerous nonsense.

That’s the image we are showing the world.
"
~ Sam Vinograd (smart woman)

& that's just factually what happened, it's in the docs (no anonymous sources, no spin)
(docs at link in Tue Oct 13 17:44:05 post)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 13:15:07
on one of his propaganda outlets, Trump was asked if he'd keep corrupt AG Bill Barr if he wins another 4 years:


"I have no comment. Can't comment on that. It's too early. I'm not happy with all of the evidence I have, I can tell you that. I'm not happy."
~ fucking dictator moron

http://www...iam-barr/2020/10/14/id/991932/

'sure, he's corruptly acting a lot to protect me & defend me... but he's not criminally charging the people i ask for based on no real evidence of crimes...'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 14:37:15
typical Trump supporter (at least mentally)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?t=s25yr_1602628956
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 14 15:06:39
^sorry, my attention was more on the gigantic "BLACK LIVES MATTER" sign that the City of New York painted on that public street because they wanted to troll the president.

Competent and mature Democratic leadership at its finest. This is what Nancy Pelosi wants the federal government to pay for via bailouts to states and localities, btw.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 15:10:42
and how much will painting the replacement border 'wall' black cost (after it's already put up due to poor planning)?


plus Trump (currently) wants to send out more bailout money than everyone
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 15:15:55
it's confirmed Trump's town hall will air at the same time as Biden's (i'm sure that was mandatory from Trump, just like his stupid fake charity event he threw together to compete w/ the debate he chickened out of last time)

all he wants to do is say he had better ratings

even though seeing Biden speak allegedly is so bad for Biden

consistency
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 14 15:17:21
It's what he wants the money for that matters. I'm sure hes not advocating cutting NYC a huge check so that NYPD officers can earn OT for guarding a BLM sign 24/7.
Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 14 15:20:22
The debate could have easily been safely held in person. The decision to do otherwise proved that the debate commission is completely anti-Trump.

As Bob Dole has said, no one on the commission likes Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 15:25:12
i only see articles mentioning guarding it around the time it went up

also, i'm not here to defend DeBlasio, he's not impressive at all
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 22:21:34
here's Trump in -Iowa- complaining that the news was talking about the boring floods in -Iowa- and how -Iowa- was doing instead of the important news of his Nobel Peace Prize (that he didn't win)
http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1316542704344469504

wtf?

Rugian
Member
Wed Oct 14 22:38:33
...I really wish he would learn that he needs better message discipline.

Still, better him than the Chavismo socialists running against him.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Oct 14 23:28:08
"better"? when has he ever had any message discipline

this is just raging mental illness
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 15 13:57:04
Don Jr comes clean
http://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1316811506613325824
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 15 16:04:44
audio from semi-reasonable Republican Ben Sasse:


“In his partial defense here, I think that lots of the news media has pretended that COVID is literally the first public health crisis ever. And somehow, it's Donald Trump's fault. That's not true. They just wanted to use it against him," Sasse said.

And then he added: "But the reality is that he careened from curb to curb. First, he ignored COVID. And then he went into full economic shutdown mode. He was the one who said 10 to 14 days of shutdown would fix this. And that was always wrong. I mean, and so I don't think the way he's lead through COVID has been reasonable or responsible, or right.”

Sasse also explored Trump's foreign policy and other issues.

“The way he kisses dictators' butts. I mean, the way he ignores that the Uighurs are in literal concentration camps in Xinjiang. Right now, he hasn't lifted a finger on behalf of the Hong-Kongers," he said. "The United States now regularly sells out our allies under his leadership, the way he treats women, spends like a drunken sailor. The ways I criticize President Obama for that kind of spending; I've criticized President Trump for as well. He mocks evangelicals behind closed doors. His family has treated the presidency like a business opportunity. He's flirted with white supremacists."

Sasse fretted that Trump and his "stupid political obsessions" could drive the country further to the Left. “If young people become permanent Democrats because they've just been repulsed by the obsessive nature of our politics, or if women who were willing to still vote with the Republican Party in 2016 decide that they need to turn away from this party permanently in the future," Sasse said. "I've spent lots of the of the last year on a campaign bus, and when you listen to Nebraskans, they don't really want more rage tweeting as a new form of entertainment," he said. "I think the overwhelming reason that President Trump won in 2016 was simply because Hillary Clinton was literally the most unpopular candidate in the history of polling.”

http://www...ators-butts-mocks-evangelicals
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 16 13:35:40
fucking moron believing a Babylon Bee story (thus probably believed the prior ones he posted too):


"Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News via @TheBabylonBee
Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T"

http://twi...ump/status/1317044556328730625

(he later clarified (in stupid fashion) that 'Big T' means 'Big Tech')

if you know it's a joke, you don't write any of that commentary
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 16 14:45:33
Former WH COS John Kelly has told friends, about Trump:
“The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life."

http://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1317188482251608066

not hard to believe, Kelly was a marine, Trump is a mentally-ill pathological liar w/ no moral fiber
renzo marQuez
Member
Fri Oct 16 14:48:30
Kelly is pretty spineless if he lets his friends do the talking for him instead of going public.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 16 15:06:15
i hope they all may come out yet in force... they may realize attention span for Trump craziness is only 2 days at most, so are waiting til the last minute before election day

Rugian
Member
Fri Oct 16 16:12:22
"they may realize attention span for Trump ['s justified anger at treasonous betrayl] is only 2 days at most,"

*laughs in Jeff Sessions*
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 16 21:28:45
it's going away... embers being put out
http://pbs...XYAA6pF-?format=jpg&name=small
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 16 22:01:14
a good thing Trump found an opportunity to discourage masks with disinformation at both debates with 10s of millions of viewers

that message that provides no benefit at all and actively harms efforts... and did I mention it was with disinformation? oh yeah, I did... but nothing unfit there at all, perfectly acceptable


was also smart to discourage alternative voting methods when covid cases could be at all time highs for election day
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 16 22:28:05
guess who said it:

“We will stand up loudly and clearly for human rights. Whether it’s talking about the situation faced by the Uighurs, whether it’s talking about the very concerning situation in Hong Kong, whether it’s calling out China for its coercive diplomacy”

there are many political leaders who could've said it... one who definitely didn't... as impossible to even imagine him saying anything like it

(not suggesting a particularly amazing statement, just saw it on twitter :p... figured it illustrates how Trump is an immature idiot, w/ unAmerican values, plus is -not- tough on China)

[was Justin Trudeau]
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 12:03:23
apparently fucking moron heard Ben Sasse's comments:

"
The least effective of our 53 Republican Senators, and a person who truly doesn’t have what it takes to be great, is Little Ben Sasse of Nebraska, a State which I have gladly done so much to help. @SenSasse was as nice as a RINO can be until he recently won the Republican....

...Nomination to run for a second term. Then he went back to his rather stupid and obnoxious ways. Must feel he can’t lose to a Dem. Little Ben is a liability to the Republican Party, and an embarrassment to the Great State of Nebraska. Other than that, he’s just a wonderful guy!
"
[Trump endorsed Sasse]
&
"
Senator Little Ben Sasse of the Great State of Nebraska seems to be heading down the same inglorious path as former Senators Liddle’ Bob Corker, whose approval rating in Tennessee went from 55% to 4%, & Jeff “the Flake” Flake, whose approval rating in Arizona went from 56% to....

....practically nothing. Both Senators became totally unelectable, couldn’t come even close to winning their primaries, and decided to drop out of politics and gracefully “RETIRE”. @SenSasse
could be next, or perhaps the Republicans should find a new and more viable candidate?
"
---------

-he calls every definite Republican who disagrees/criticizes him a RINO

-he calls everyone else a Democrat... (like Fauci & impeachment people who had no clear party affiliation)... since if they are a Democrat, then 'obviously' everything they say counter to Trump is just for politics & not their real views


he's such a piece of shit petty child liar... no way any informed person could vote for such filth... he would toss you to the curb if you disagreed w/ a single view of his
Rugian
Member
Sat Oct 17 12:08:17
Sasse just committed political suicide. Bih
Rugian
Member
Sat Oct 17 12:09:14
Hopefully hes added to the list of people Barr will be arresting on November 2.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 12:10:35
you of all people should be supporting Sasse

an actual intelligent non-nutjob Republican (not just saying that as he attacked Trump :p, i was aware of him prior)

Trumpism has no future
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Oct 17 12:30:06
Sasse is a neocon faggot. No surprise that tw is a big fan.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 12:37:36
he's relatively young & can formulate intelligent thoughts
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 12:39:16
like Justin Amash for that matter
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Oct 17 12:40:37
Amash isn't completely awful. Sasse is terrible.But we know you don't care about policy. Only orange mad bad.
Rugian
Member
Sat Oct 17 12:53:16
"But we know you don't care about policy."

Yep. Sasse could literally advocate for bringing about the nuclear Holocause, but as long as he says it in the "right" way TW thinks hes a good guy who we should support.

Policy matters, tw.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 13:34:52
like Trump's 'policy' of better & cheaper healthcare with more protections? or the 'policy' of 'covid is going away'? is fantasy land policy? how about people who can think & act


i prefer people passing the mental fitness gate before looking into policy issues

& the GOP is full of elderly men who are aging out & moron/frauds riding the Trump train
swordtail
Anarchist Prime
Sat Oct 17 16:55:40
http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1317221997882036224
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 17:04:27
he's a stupid man

& not the first time he's said it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0rGLPdvqWM

once he 'learns' something, he never corrects it even if it was wrong
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 17:06:54
also "super duper is easier to understand than hydrosonic [hypersonic]"? what information does 'super duper' convey to anyone?


do not vote for this moron...
jergul
large member
Sat Oct 17 17:47:01
"Hydrosonic"?

A. Trump is trying to follow daily briefings
B. The US has some concerns about acustic detection (it could be a positive as in one of the newer submarines is better than anticipated?

C. The man leaks like a sieve. I am not a professional analyst, but slips like that give away valuable information.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 17:52:59
i'm confident they give him as little sensitive information as possible

one aspect where his zero attention span and no interest in knowledge pays off
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 18:23:07
Forbes detailing over $1 billion of debt that Trump has:
http://www...twice-the-amount-he-suggested/

who knows what the real number is or to whom it's all owed
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 17 18:48:06
TW , You forget to mention that he also has over 3 billion in assets.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 19:02:43
i'm not forgetting, pretty sure people have heard of his alleged wealth

do you think Trump is more likely to sell off a property or do corrupt shit if he gets desperate?


& there's likely way more debt... the odds people have uncovered ALL of it seems unlikely... we've just had discoveries jump from $400 million to $1 billion (& he's super secretive & a fraud on all info)
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 17 19:17:50
See, This is where you get shady.

First off these are estimates, not discovered new debt.

As for his networth, its kind its important to compare debt as how leveraged someone is.

Show me a man who thinks the Trump family is financial dire.straits and I'll show you an idiot who listens to too much MSNBC dike girl.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 22:40:07
i doubt we've had a president whose finances are more murky or one who is more of a fraud in all aspects of life and who has no moral compass

but whatever... you like that he's sorta tough on China on one issue

his literal constant flood of misinformation & him never seeming to know anything about any issue (even the important ones) & him undermining faith in all aspects of America are all not deal-breakers for you for some reason
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 22:51:29
Jeff Sessions bending the knee again
http://twitter.com/TTuberville/status/1316784961924538369

how does his wife even look him in the eye
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 17 23:33:14
from Scott Atlas (the radiologist who is Trump's only adviser on the pandemic):

"
Masks work? NO: LA, Miami, Hawaii, Alabama, France, Phlippnes, UK, Spain, Israel. WHO:"widesprd use not supported" + many harms; Heneghan/Oxf CEBM:"despite decades, considerble uncertainty re value"; CDC rvw May:"no sig red'n in inflnz transm'n"; learn why http://bitly.ws/aeZa
"

i guess he really didn't want to make it into 2 tweets where it might be comprehensible

the gist appears to be anti-mask (i didn't read linked article, seems plenty of doctors saying it's junk)

and even though he preferred that abomination over using multiple tweets, he did reply to himself with this:

"
That means the right policy is @realDonaldTrump
guideline: use masks for their intended purpose - when close to others, especially hi risk. Otherwise, social distance. No widespread mandates.
"

so "Trump's guidelines" are the right policy... when does Trump ever mention "Trump's guidelines"?

and why does Trump do the opposite of "Trump's guidelines" at his nonsense-spewing cult gatherings?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 12:12:49
"If Joe Biden gets in the radical left will shut down Wisconsin timber production forever. You know, they don't want to let you touch a tree. If you happen to touch a tree, they want to put you in jail for the rest of your life."
~ fucking liar


and right as 'Character Counts' week is just beginning...
Rugian
Member
Sun Oct 18 12:20:28
And Twitter removed Atlas' tweet. Fucking totalitarian fascists want to censor any science that goes against the Establishment Media's Official Narrative (TM).

Once again, we need Trump to remain in office so these Stalinist haters of the 1st Amendment dont retake the executive branch.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 12:24:22
why is every other part of his administration encouraging masks? (plus R's all the way to evil Mitch)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 12:29:16
comments from Sen Cornyn (R-TX):

...
Cornyn initially described his relationship with Trump as “maybe like a lot of women who get married and think they’re going to change their spouse, and that doesn’t usually work out very well.”

Cornyn continued: “I think what we found is that we’re not going to change President Trump. He is who he is. You either love him or hate him, and there’s not much in between. What I tried to do is not get into public confrontations and fights with him because, as I’ve observed, those usually don’t end too well.”

...

“But when I have had differences of opinion, which I have, (I) do that privately,” Cornyn said. “I have found that has allowed me to be much more effective, I believe, than to satisfy those who say I ought to call him out or get into a public fight with him.”

For example, Cornyn said he expressed concerns over budget deficits and debt with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, during discussions about COVID-19 stimulus aid.

Cornyn said he also disagreed with the way Trump handled trade agreements with China and other Asian countries. Trump in 2017 pulled the United States out of a Trans-Pacific Partnership, an agreement that would have expanded trade in 12 countries.

“I applaud him for standing up to China but, frankly, this idea that China is paying the price and we’re not paying the price here at home is just not true,” Cornyn said.

Cornyn also opposed taking money from the defense budget to build portions of a border wall, saying he is “very much a defense hawk” who disagreed with the use of national security funds for that purpose.

http://www...vernment/article246503045.html

TLDR: Cornyn says Trump is an idiot & he disagreed w/ all things Trump has done that were actually Trump's idea (wall/China)... & since talking to child Trump is pointless he would just raise his concerns w/ adults in the administration


running away from Trump in Texas... good sign!
Habebe
Member
Sun Oct 18 12:29:57
Ive always wondered if it annoys Trump that Obama still has the most followers on Twitter. Trump is gaining buy its still a sizeable lead for Obama.I think Trump recently topped. Taylor Swift to 6t place.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 12:37:04
if he's aware of it, it certainly bothers him
Habebe
Member
Sun Oct 18 13:09:34
I'm certain he is aware of it.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 13:23:35
he reportedly has complained about it many times including to the head of Twitter

w/ whiny tweets basically confirming it:

http://www...witter-followers-obama-826471/

mental illness
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 13:34:25
for Scott Atlas, Twitter only deleted the barely comprehensible tweet that seemed to say masks don't work

they didn't delete his follow-up (which didn't seem to naturally follow) of advising people to follow "Trump's guideline" of social distancing & wearing masks when close to others

no idea how that's Trump's policy or guideline, but Scott knows how to keep his job i guess... say Trump is right (even if Trump is doing the opposite)
Rugian
Member
Sun Oct 18 13:38:38
"they didn't delete his follow-up (which didn't seem to naturally follow) of advising people to follow "Trump's guideline" of social distancing & wearing masks when close to others"

The fact that you think this is remotely acceptable shows how far gone you are.

Science by its very nature can produce conflicting answers to a question. Twitter shouldn't be promoting one answer on the efficacy of masks and censoring all others.

The fact is, 85% of people who get Covid are self-described regular mask wearers (source: CDC). There should be room for debate on the subject of masks, especially in a country that *allegedly* has freedom of speech.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 13:49:37
i don't think anyone is saying masks fool-proof... plus i would bet many people lie about wearing masks, as you don't want to look like a fool after catching it (everyone but Trump still recommending them... CDC, Surgeon General,etc)

i don't know that Twitter needed to delete it, but Scott should've deleted it himself as so incomprehensible

& he apparently doesn't even agree w/ what it seemed to say given his follow-up tweet
Habebe
Member
Sun Oct 18 14:11:11
I mean I think its generally agreed that in circumstances where there are crowds of people in close proximity that. N95 masks can reduce spreading it to others if worn properly.

Even better is hand washing and probably best for both.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 15:27:39
there's video of fucking fraud claiming at an event 'yesterday' that nearly everyone was wearing masks & cited the people behind him as proof (it is 100% crystal clear his team has made an effort to have the people behind him wear masks so it looks like they're doing the right thing on TV)

the crowds that Trump is looking at in front of him & to sides definitely do NOT have much mask coverage

so the fucking fraud -clearly- lying to all of our faces YET again... there is NO defense, he knows w/ 100% certainty that he is lying

and the fucking fraud also claimed (again) that they've never had any issues at his events, as if he follows up w/ every participant for 2 weeks after

also... Herman Cain
also... the fucking rose garden super spreader

(and cases -have- been linked to his rallies)


a total lying conman moron fraud... do not vote for him
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Oct 18 23:38:57
Don Jr is not well
http://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1318036538429558785
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