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tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 01:36:10 2020
electricity is in the air... i guess

Tom Bombadil is coming

all signs suggest this will be another dumpster fire
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 01:40:06 2020
Over under on how many times trump's mic gets muted?

Also odds that trump will get fed up and storm off stage?
habebe
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Fri Oct 23 01:48:04 2020
Odds on the chewbacca decense coming up.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 01:51:39 2020
pretty sure the muting use is not discretionary

just each is muted for the initial 2 minute responses & that's it
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 01:56:15 2020
will Trump be able to lay out a coherent informed case on the alleged Hunter Biden laptop?

or will he do his typical shouting of fragments of click-bait headline info & "you go look at ____" shit?

(obviously he won't do the former as he's never done that on anything)
habebe
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Fri Oct 23 03:13:44 2020
http://youtu.be/TMRmuyy9f_w

The Simpson's sums up US politics 25 years ago in 2 minutes.

Trump is actually behaving himself.
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 03:22:32 2020
Did biden really just praise the way new york city handled the kungflu?
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 03:32:46 2020
why can't Biden note Trump has done fuck all since late April, only lying and setting a bad examples and never urging any precautions, only discouraging them
Rugian
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Fri Oct 23 03:32:54 2020
Oh no, Ratcliffe got name-dropped...tw will be triggered.
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 03:33:23 2020
I almost feel like Trump intentionally blew up the first debate to look so presidential and calm this one.
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 03:40:14 2020
Haha yep and instead of interrupting Biden he is letting bunker biden drown himself regarding his sons business deals and his percentage in them.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 03:40:16 2020
yeah, he says Russia doesn't want Trump to win... right... I'm sure kargen believes it though
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 03:42:17 2020
Biden is bombing the last 2 minutes.
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 03:43:34 2020
Definitely stumbling because he cant really say an honest answer about his familys wealth
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 03:44:36 2020
Trump lying his ass off... says he gets no money from China, well why is he paying them taxes

plus claims Mueller went all through his finances, he did not, and Trump knows it, they specifically made sure of it
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 03:48:44 2020
Tw is having a rough time watching this debate, trump listened to advice.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 03:51:10 2020
and Trump lying that we'd be in a war with North Korea...
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 03:51:29 2020
Also, turns out when trump stays calm he isnt constantly sucking in air through his nostrils.

obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 03:51:54 2020
Lol, wasnt tw the one screaming about trump starting ww3?
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 03:52:32 2020
Biden had his best part ever about the public option. It was a lie but he expreases himswlf clearly.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 03:54:04 2020
so Trump admitting he lied about having a healthcare plan all this time since he says he wants to "come up with" a great one
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 04:04:43 2020
Did biden really claim illegals arent being smuggled into the states by cartels and coyotes?
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 04:05:11 2020
I woder how many black people think " coyotes" are animals carrying over the kids.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 04:07:10 2020
the 545 kids in question were with parents, not coyotes

Biden needs to tag me in... it's the zero tolerance that caused it, Trump admin policy (that they proudly announced)
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 04:08:25 2020
Or with people who opportunistically claimed to be their parents.
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 04:13:53 2020
They were saying they were coming over with coyotes and cartels.

Biden shouldnt have dodged the WHO built the cages question. Even I felt bad for him.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 04:16:41 2020
right he shouldn't have because that wasn't the issue

the question was about the 545 kids who still haven't been reunited after multiple years... due to a Trump admin policy
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 04:18:06 2020
Trump still on about "pigs in a blanket"... the chant done at one event like 5 years ago
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 04:18:54 2020
I went to the bathroom, did he just call Trump Abraham Lincoln!
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 04:19:15 2020
He did! Trump called him out on it.
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 04:20:06 2020
That smile biden does when he cant offer a response beyond "not true" is a bad look. It comes off like a slimey career politician... which biden is.
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 04:20:52 2020
Lol, tw thinks BLM's stance has changed regarding police.
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 04:23:08 2020
Trump finally landing some personal insults on biden
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 04:25:40 2020
Drug courts are garbage , terrible success rates in my experiences, Ive known people who went though them, like 90% failure rates.

But I like the idea of treatment over jail. But most " treatment" is BS. Honestly addiction should be treated through a mix of medication and therapeutics ( excessive, church whatever replaces your heroin fix)
renzo marQuez
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Fri Oct 23 04:30:14 2020
Biden's adrenochrome wore off.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 04:33:56 2020
I wish the tranquilizer Trump took would also make him not still lie constantly

looks like Trump will skate on his $1 Trillion pre-covid deficit... plus on having no idea what protecting pre-existing conditions means...

people are so bad at exposing his idiocy
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 04:34:44 2020
Biden doesnt have his talking points memorized
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 04:46:02 2020
so now Rs will celebrate that Trump was able to behave like a normal adult for 1.5 hours

as if he won't be back to his normal self immediately
Y2A
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Fri Oct 23 04:49:33 2020
Biden did well now that there was a debate where he was allowed to talk.
Dukhat
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Fri Oct 23 04:50:27 2020
Trump "won" in the sense that some of his soft support will come back because he acted like Pence in this debate and just stuck to calmly lying. So it undoes some of the damage of his horrible first debate.

But by every reasoned measure, Trump lost badly.

Too bad it doesn't matter to 44% of the voters who only see things through the prism of their echo chambers.

And lol at Obaminated being happy Trump resorted to personal attacks. A sad pathetic fuck of a human being who thinks logical fallacies like ad hominems prove anything.
obaminated
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Fri Oct 23 04:52:36 2020
The irony of your statement is hilarious.
kargen
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Fri Oct 23 04:55:11 2020
"I'm sure kargen believes it though"

I don't know what Russia thinks nor do I really give a fuck.

I do know in the 2016 election they didn't care who won and did all they could to make sure whoever did win would be undermined as president.

On a side note I like how Biden went from zero emissions by 2025 to a minute later zero emissions by 2035 and in the same sentence decided 2050.

He also renamed the Proud Boys the Poor Boys.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 04:55:58 2020
notice Trump wasn't demanding drug tests this time

'His trainer has told me that he's taken anabolic steroids, Novacaine, Nyquil, Darvon, and some sort of fish paralyzer'
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 04:58:05 2020
"I do know in the 2016 election they didn't care who won"

every report (except by Devin Nunes) disagrees with you... plus common sense...

but no need to discuss your crazy beliefs yet again
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 04:58:22 2020
Dukhat may of just jinxed it.Hes like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.
Rugian
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Fri Oct 23 04:59:31 2020
Half of the City of Boston lost power abiut an hour ago...anyone have a summary of who won?

(Not you, tw)
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 05:02:46 2020
So, mpst Democrats seem to be saying both candidates did well.

That should say enough.
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 05:02:46 2020
So, mpst Democrats seem to be saying both candidates did well.

That should say enough.
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 05:03:22 2020
So, mpst Democrats seem to be saying both candidates did well.

That should say enough.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 05:22:46 2020
Trump won if you don't care about factual info... he's a master at fraud
(Daniel Dale compared fact checking him tonight to that famous I Love Lucy moment with the chocolates on the conveyor belt)

Rs will pray he never shows his face again til election day as he's incapable of maintaining the mature adult facade

pretty sure 2016 he did similar in 2016, they got him to behave like a normal person in final debate, and he disappeared from twitter the last few days before election day
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 05:27:31 2020
tumbleweed
the wanderer Thu Oct 22 22:22:46
Trump won if you don't care about factual info... he's a master at fraud


------Says it all.
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 05:28:06 2020
Tw should be happy, Mitch got fucked up, bad.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 05:49:16 2020
Melania:
http://twitter.com/WalnutDust/status/1319468801017188352
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 06:31:56 2020
on Trump's claim that only the really stupid immigrants come back for their court date:

"This is false. And we would know."
~ Nat'l Association of Immigration Judges

http://twi...AIJ/status/1319477220994408448

(plus you can tell Trump's just making it up)
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 06:46:38 2020
one of CNN's undecided voters said he's strongly pro-life and waiting to see if Barrett gets confirmed to SC & if so, he'll vote for Biden

so my theory was right! (i said it takes away a reason for some nuts to vote for complete moral garbage Trump)
Habebe
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Fri Oct 23 06:58:37 2020
It's a CNN setup....very obviously.
jergul
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Fri Oct 23 07:11:08 2020
I did not watch. But Trump objectively lost in a strategic sense. He needed something to change the outcome and that did not happen.
habebe
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Fri Oct 23 07:47:11 2020
Idk, according to your 538, he only has a 12% chance....unless he wins Florida, which jumps it 40 something. I feel way better about his odds Now than I did a week ago.
kargen
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Fri Oct 23 08:38:51 2020
"one of CNN's undecided voters said he's strongly pro-life and waiting to see if Barrett gets confirmed to SC & if so, he'll vote for Biden"

That isn't an undecided voter. We know she will be confirmed. Would have made more sense if he had said if she doesn't get confirmed he will vote for Biden so Biden can put in a pro life judge.
tumbleweed
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Fri Oct 23 08:58:55 2020
that doesn't make any sense, crazy person

in 2016 there were multiple theoretically good / christian people who talked of holding their nose & voting for Trump for the supreme court justices

if they have a comfortable 6-3 majority (w/ no vacancies being held open by a corrupt & diseased turtle), then it's no longer that important thus they can vote for someone w/ an element of decency

which was my speculation from awhile ago that is now confirmed... surely this guy isn't the only one feeling that way

that's why i prefer they do the confirmation now as i'm sure the shameless garbage would have no problem doing it after the election anyway, no matter how disastrous it went for them
Nimatzo
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Fri Oct 23 11:35:12 2020
People who swear are fucking stupid!
-Dickhat the sensible
patom
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Fri Oct 23 11:42:15 2020
Worth reading

https//www.factcheck.org/2020/10/factchecking-the-final-2020-presidential-debate/?fbclid=IwAR1qVF2Q2tOcehlXajZMJrsl6apqjz8rhZT3UHj-OUK5GOE6c7Zo7t1daQM
The Children
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Fri Oct 23 13:24:37 2020
me watchin now. i have redbull with me and some chow mein comin soon.

sony doesnt do E3 anymo, so we cant chill and watch that stuff with chips and soda.

but damn im watchin this instead! hahaha

who culdve known politics wuld be entertainment just a few years back. peeps wuldve called u for nuts.

but here we r.
Forwyn
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Sat Oct 24 07:16:18 2020
This morning's tantrums have driven home the need for cyclic poll testing.
renzo marQuez
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Sat Oct 24 17:15:28 2020
http://twitter.com/ScottFantasy/status/1319628336902135808

"So apparently nobody cares that Biden had all of his debate answers and talking points supplied in real time via the iPad at his podium? Cool."
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 18:41:09 2020
i see no iPad... he was clearly writing on a notepad at various points in time, as i'm sure both candidates were provided

(& guy in comments (Kevin Dalton) put video showing someone removing Trump's too)
obaminated
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Sat Oct 24 22:05:52 2020
Lol, "i see no ipad"

Video shows a woman grab an ipad off bidens podium.

Makes a lot of sense, biden was staring down at his podium whenever he wasnt answering a question.
Habebe
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Sat Oct 24 22:50:31 2020
#KANYE 2020
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 23:05:18 2020
"Video shows a woman grab an ipad off bidens podium"

because all rectangular objects are iPads? plus looks too big to me... plus one removed from Trumps podium too

http://twi...tatus/1319764416980643840?s=21

...gullible idiot
obaminated
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Sat Oct 24 23:18:51 2020
Tw, if it is an ipod and biden was staring at it the entire time to know his talking points, would it matter to you?
obaminated
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Sat Oct 24 23:28:48 2020
As to who the gullible idiot is... tw, you still argue that biden never said he was going to end fracking.
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 23:30:15 2020
it's not an iPad nothing at all suggests it's an iPad except some dumbass intentionally hiding that the too-large-for-an-iPad object is removed from both podiums

people believing any stupid thing put out there is getting old
Habebe
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Sat Oct 24 23:35:04 2020
"
people believing any stupid thing put out there is getting old"

Like Russia, Russia, Russia, supports white supremacy,Is allowing mining in the grand canyon etc.

Did anyone else notice how fast Trump called Bidens Bluff on Tracking.
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 23:38:13 2020
I don't recall arguing Biden never said it, just he has had his position laid out for a long time (no new fracking on fed lands)

Trump ignores it... plus just assigns Green New Deal and only Medicare-for-all and 'super predators' to Biden as he's a fucking liar
obaminated
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Sat Oct 24 23:45:35 2020
Tw, if it is an ipod and biden was staring at it the entire time to know his talking points, would it matter to you?
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 23:45:51 2020
Russia Russia Russia reporting was accurate

white supremacists think Trump is on their side, so self-evident that he fails on that... granted, it's probably more due to Trumps mental illnesses that make it hard for him to ever say anything bad about those who like him (a condition that alone makes him unfit for office)

the Grand Canyon stuff was mostly accurate, and barely a story anyway
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 23:47:25 2020
"Tw, if it is an ipod and biden was staring at it the entire time to know his talking points, would it matter to you?"

yes? if Trump had a hamster up his ass, would it matter to you?
obaminated
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Sat Oct 24 23:48:14 2020
So it would bother you?
obaminated
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Sat Oct 24 23:49:07 2020
And yes, if trump had a hamster up his ass i would question his sanity.

See how i can answer a question?
obaminated
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Sat Oct 24 23:55:50 2020
Also, biggest ipad on the market is 13". So that object in her hand that she swiftly gets off stage with could be an ipad.
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 23:56:24 2020
great, we both answered pointless questions

...although no evidence there wasn't a hamster
tumbleweed
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Sat Oct 24 23:57:31 2020
so you're saying Trump was using an iPad?

I guess that explains why he was totally different than usual
Habebe
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Sat Oct 24 23:57:33 2020
Communists like China think Biden is on their side....

Grand Cannyon was NOT accurate. I myself immediately was like WTF! Until I found out the truth.

And it's as much of a story as an IPad....which I wouldnt care much if either candidate had an IPad.
obaminated
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Sun Oct 25 00:00:36 2020
Difference is trump didnt use his ipad. He stared at biden the entire time. Biden stared at his ipad for answers.
obaminated
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Sun Oct 25 00:04:48 2020
Watching the rallies.
Biden read talking points off a teleprompter. And only has 1 rally this weekend.

Trump speaks to the crowd with energy. Shows video of biden lying about fracking, fossil fuels, social security and medicare. And he has 5 rallies this weekend. MAGA
obaminated
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Sun Oct 25 00:06:10 2020
Also biden has about 100 people in cars at his rally.

Trump has thousands of people showing up to see him speak. The enthusiasm gap is real.
Habebe
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Sun Oct 25 00:15:40 2020
Well it just goes to his general mental performance which he definitley has senior moments and struggles with abstrwct thought that isnt a talking point.
renzo marQuez
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Sun Oct 25 00:27:15 2020
There's apparently a video going around of Hunter Biden smoking crack and getting a footjob from some Chink bitch. Lulz. There's some speculation that she's underage so I haven't searched for it and suggest you don't either. There's also a rumor that he had naked pics of his niece from when she was 14. So did Hunter fuck his brother's widow and their daughter?
obaminated
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Sun Oct 25 00:31:28 2020
Crack head gonna behave like a crack head.
tumbleweed
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Sun Oct 25 00:39:53 2020
Trump has teleprompters -EVERY- rally

& if when he's not using it, i guarantee he's not saying anything factual or of any importance (also true even when reading it for that matter... they have it just to try to curb his ramblings some)


at debate there were no iPads... there's zero indication of iPads...

as you're a young person (i think), perhaps unaware of physical "notepads"... (that Windows program is named after them)

http://s1-...Notepads-MainImage_450x450.jpg

in the old days people used "pens" or "pencils" to draw letters by hand rather than typing... Biden has clearly torn off the pages he wrote on & folded them, thus leaving behind the "notepad" (which almost always have stiff backing) thus demonstrating he left the unused portion behind as you wouldn't fold that over

now you provide evidence there were iPads...
Habebe
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Sun Oct 25 00:48:05 2020
Tw, With Trump he isn't reliant off reading a promoter, that's the difference.
Habebe
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Sun Oct 25 00:50:44 2020
"smoking crack and getting a footjob from some Chink bitch. Lulz"

Havn't we all been there.
tumbleweed
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Sun Oct 25 00:51:38 2020
"With Trump he isn't reliant off reading a promoter"

yes, he fucking is... show me him saying something of value not from teleprompter (even by your standard of value)
tumbleweed
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Sun Oct 25 00:53:47 2020
he needed a telprompter to describe the debate matchup of Biden vs himself...
http://twi...ump/status/1320075805217742849

only breaking from prompter to lie about himself
tumbleweed
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Sun Oct 25 00:58:13 2020
example of Biden speaking entirely w/ no prompter... (at least that i can see, they have zoomed out view early)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10RWnZh41Ds

and didn't take me long to find... was first google result for "Biden rally"
renzo marQuez
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Sun Oct 25 01:04:25 2020
Habebe
Member Sat Oct 24 17:50:44
"Havn't we all been there."

Never took you for a footnigga. http://stonetoss.com/comic/acquired-tastes/
Habebe
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Sun Oct 25 01:34:54 2020
Renzo, Lol, you have no problem seeing me smoke.crack?

Nah, I never got the whole foot thing.Im an ass and pussy kind of guy.

Plus an amphetamine guy, I jate come and never tried crack...Coke was too intense for me, I figured crack would jist be worse.
renzo marQuez
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Sun Oct 25 01:36:16 2020
Lol. Was just looking for an excuse to post that comic.
tumbleweed
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Sun Oct 25 01:38:54 2020
Trump when he hears "cocaine"
http://twi...s22/status/1319464593287204864

"omg, did he find me out? what was he saying?"
Habebe
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Sun Oct 25 01:40:31 2020
It was funny.

I habe turnes bitches away for having fucked up feer though.

I remember this one chick my buddy tried to set me up with, fucking barbie rubble feet, this was almost 15 years ago.
Habebe
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Sun Oct 25 01:41:22 2020
I jate come= I hate coke.
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