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tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 18:36:10
electricity is in the air... i guess

Tom Bombadil is coming

all signs suggest this will be another dumpster fire
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 18:40:06
Over under on how many times trump's mic gets muted?

Also odds that trump will get fed up and storm off stage?
habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 18:48:04
Odds on the chewbacca decense coming up.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 18:51:39
pretty sure the muting use is not discretionary

just each is muted for the initial 2 minute responses & that's it
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 18:56:15
will Trump be able to lay out a coherent informed case on the alleged Hunter Biden laptop?

or will he do his typical shouting of fragments of click-bait headline info & "you go look at ____" shit?

(obviously he won't do the former as he's never done that on anything)
habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:13:44
http://youtu.be/TMRmuyy9f_w

The Simpson's sums up US politics 25 years ago in 2 minutes.

Trump is actually behaving himself.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:22:32
Did biden really just praise the way new york city handled the kungflu?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 20:32:46
why can't Biden note Trump has done fuck all since late April, only lying and setting a bad examples and never urging any precautions, only discouraging them
Rugian
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:32:54
Oh no, Ratcliffe got name-dropped...tw will be triggered.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:33:23
I almost feel like Trump intentionally blew up the first debate to look so presidential and calm this one.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:40:14
Haha yep and instead of interrupting Biden he is letting bunker biden drown himself regarding his sons business deals and his percentage in them.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 20:40:16
yeah, he says Russia doesn't want Trump to win... right... I'm sure kargen believes it though
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:42:17
Biden is bombing the last 2 minutes.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:43:34
Definitely stumbling because he cant really say an honest answer about his familys wealth
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 20:44:36
Trump lying his ass off... says he gets no money from China, well why is he paying them taxes

plus claims Mueller went all through his finances, he did not, and Trump knows it, they specifically made sure of it
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:48:44
Tw is having a rough time watching this debate, trump listened to advice.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 20:51:10
and Trump lying that we'd be in a war with North Korea...
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:51:29
Also, turns out when trump stays calm he isnt constantly sucking in air through his nostrils.

obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:51:54
Lol, wasnt tw the one screaming about trump starting ww3?
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 20:52:32
Biden had his best part ever about the public option. It was a lie but he expreases himswlf clearly.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 20:54:04
so Trump admitting he lied about having a healthcare plan all this time since he says he wants to "come up with" a great one
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:04:43
Did biden really claim illegals arent being smuggled into the states by cartels and coyotes?
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:05:11
I woder how many black people think " coyotes" are animals carrying over the kids.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 21:07:10
the 545 kids in question were with parents, not coyotes

Biden needs to tag me in... it's the zero tolerance that caused it, Trump admin policy (that they proudly announced)
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:08:25
Or with people who opportunistically claimed to be their parents.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:13:53
They were saying they were coming over with coyotes and cartels.

Biden shouldnt have dodged the WHO built the cages question. Even I felt bad for him.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 21:16:41
right he shouldn't have because that wasn't the issue

the question was about the 545 kids who still haven't been reunited after multiple years... due to a Trump admin policy
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 21:18:06
Trump still on about "pigs in a blanket"... the chant done at one event like 5 years ago
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:18:54
I went to the bathroom, did he just call Trump Abraham Lincoln!
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:19:15
He did! Trump called him out on it.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:20:06
That smile biden does when he cant offer a response beyond "not true" is a bad look. It comes off like a slimey career politician... which biden is.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:20:52
Lol, tw thinks BLM's stance has changed regarding police.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:23:08
Trump finally landing some personal insults on biden
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:25:40
Drug courts are garbage , terrible success rates in my experiences, Ive known people who went though them, like 90% failure rates.

But I like the idea of treatment over jail. But most " treatment" is BS. Honestly addiction should be treated through a mix of medication and therapeutics ( excessive, church whatever replaces your heroin fix)
renzo marQuez
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:30:14
Biden's adrenochrome wore off.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 21:33:56
I wish the tranquilizer Trump took would also make him not still lie constantly

looks like Trump will skate on his $1 Trillion pre-covid deficit... plus on having no idea what protecting pre-existing conditions means...

people are so bad at exposing his idiocy
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:34:44
Biden doesnt have his talking points memorized
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 21:46:02
so now Rs will celebrate that Trump was able to behave like a normal adult for 1.5 hours

as if he won't be back to his normal self immediately
Y2A
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:49:33
Biden did well now that there was a debate where he was allowed to talk.
Dukhat
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:50:27
Trump "won" in the sense that some of his soft support will come back because he acted like Pence in this debate and just stuck to calmly lying. So it undoes some of the damage of his horrible first debate.

But by every reasoned measure, Trump lost badly.

Too bad it doesn't matter to 44% of the voters who only see things through the prism of their echo chambers.

And lol at Obaminated being happy Trump resorted to personal attacks. A sad pathetic fuck of a human being who thinks logical fallacies like ad hominems prove anything.
obaminated
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:52:36
The irony of your statement is hilarious.
kargen
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:55:11
"I'm sure kargen believes it though"

I don't know what Russia thinks nor do I really give a fuck.

I do know in the 2016 election they didn't care who won and did all they could to make sure whoever did win would be undermined as president.

On a side note I like how Biden went from zero emissions by 2025 to a minute later zero emissions by 2035 and in the same sentence decided 2050.

He also renamed the Proud Boys the Poor Boys.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 21:55:58
notice Trump wasn't demanding drug tests this time

'His trainer has told me that he's taken anabolic steroids, Novacaine, Nyquil, Darvon, and some sort of fish paralyzer'
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 21:58:05
"I do know in the 2016 election they didn't care who won"

every report (except by Devin Nunes) disagrees with you... plus common sense...

but no need to discuss your crazy beliefs yet again
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:58:22
Dukhat may of just jinxed it.Hes like a magic 8 ball that only gives wrong answers.
Rugian
Member
Thu Oct 22 21:59:31
Half of the City of Boston lost power abiut an hour ago...anyone have a summary of who won?

(Not you, tw)
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 22:02:46
So, mpst Democrats seem to be saying both candidates did well.

That should say enough.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 22:02:46
So, mpst Democrats seem to be saying both candidates did well.

That should say enough.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 22:03:22
So, mpst Democrats seem to be saying both candidates did well.

That should say enough.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 22:22:46
Trump won if you don't care about factual info... he's a master at fraud
(Daniel Dale compared fact checking him tonight to that famous I Love Lucy moment with the chocolates on the conveyor belt)

Rs will pray he never shows his face again til election day as he's incapable of maintaining the mature adult facade

pretty sure 2016 he did similar in 2016, they got him to behave like a normal person in final debate, and he disappeared from twitter the last few days before election day
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 22:27:31
tumbleweed
the wanderer Thu Oct 22 22:22:46
Trump won if you don't care about factual info... he's a master at fraud


------Says it all.
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 22:28:06
Tw should be happy, Mitch got fucked up, bad.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 22:49:16
Melania:
http://twitter.com/WalnutDust/status/1319468801017188352
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 23:31:56
on Trump's claim that only the really stupid immigrants come back for their court date:

"This is false. And we would know."
~ Nat'l Association of Immigration Judges

http://twi...AIJ/status/1319477220994408448

(plus you can tell Trump's just making it up)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Oct 22 23:46:38
one of CNN's undecided voters said he's strongly pro-life and waiting to see if Barrett gets confirmed to SC & if so, he'll vote for Biden

so my theory was right! (i said it takes away a reason for some nuts to vote for complete moral garbage Trump)
Habebe
Member
Thu Oct 22 23:58:37
It's a CNN setup....very obviously.
jergul
large member
Fri Oct 23 00:11:08
I did not watch. But Trump objectively lost in a strategic sense. He needed something to change the outcome and that did not happen.
habebe
Member
Fri Oct 23 00:47:11
Idk, according to your 538, he only has a 12% chance....unless he wins Florida, which jumps it 40 something. I feel way better about his odds Now than I did a week ago.
kargen
Member
Fri Oct 23 01:38:51
"one of CNN's undecided voters said he's strongly pro-life and waiting to see if Barrett gets confirmed to SC & if so, he'll vote for Biden"

That isn't an undecided voter. We know she will be confirmed. Would have made more sense if he had said if she doesn't get confirmed he will vote for Biden so Biden can put in a pro life judge.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Oct 23 01:58:55
that doesn't make any sense, crazy person

in 2016 there were multiple theoretically good / christian people who talked of holding their nose & voting for Trump for the supreme court justices

if they have a comfortable 6-3 majority (w/ no vacancies being held open by a corrupt & diseased turtle), then it's no longer that important thus they can vote for someone w/ an element of decency

which was my speculation from awhile ago that is now confirmed... surely this guy isn't the only one feeling that way

that's why i prefer they do the confirmation now as i'm sure the shameless garbage would have no problem doing it after the election anyway, no matter how disastrous it went for them
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Oct 23 04:35:12
People who swear are fucking stupid!
-Dickhat the sensible
patom
Member
Fri Oct 23 04:42:15
Worth reading

https//www.factcheck.org/2020/10/factchecking-the-final-2020-presidential-debate/?fbclid=IwAR1qVF2Q2tOcehlXajZMJrsl6apqjz8rhZT3UHj-OUK5GOE6c7Zo7t1daQM
The Children
Member
Fri Oct 23 06:24:37
me watchin now. i have redbull with me and some chow mein comin soon.

sony doesnt do E3 anymo, so we cant chill and watch that stuff with chips and soda.

but damn im watchin this instead! hahaha

who culdve known politics wuld be entertainment just a few years back. peeps wuldve called u for nuts.

but here we r.
Forwyn
Member
Sat Oct 24 00:16:18
This morning's tantrums have driven home the need for cyclic poll testing.
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Oct 24 10:15:28
http://twitter.com/ScottFantasy/status/1319628336902135808

"So apparently nobody cares that Biden had all of his debate answers and talking points supplied in real time via the iPad at his podium? Cool."
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 11:41:09
i see no iPad... he was clearly writing on a notepad at various points in time, as i'm sure both candidates were provided

(& guy in comments (Kevin Dalton) put video showing someone removing Trump's too)
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 15:05:52
Lol, "i see no ipad"

Video shows a woman grab an ipad off bidens podium.

Makes a lot of sense, biden was staring down at his podium whenever he wasnt answering a question.
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 15:50:31
#KANYE 2020
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 16:05:18
"Video shows a woman grab an ipad off bidens podium"

because all rectangular objects are iPads? plus looks too big to me... plus one removed from Trumps podium too

http://twi...tatus/1319764416980643840?s=21

...gullible idiot
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:18:51
Tw, if it is an ipod and biden was staring at it the entire time to know his talking points, would it matter to you?
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:28:48
As to who the gullible idiot is... tw, you still argue that biden never said he was going to end fracking.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 16:30:15
it's not an iPad nothing at all suggests it's an iPad except some dumbass intentionally hiding that the too-large-for-an-iPad object is removed from both podiums

people believing any stupid thing put out there is getting old
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:35:04
"
people believing any stupid thing put out there is getting old"

Like Russia, Russia, Russia, supports white supremacy,Is allowing mining in the grand canyon etc.

Did anyone else notice how fast Trump called Bidens Bluff on Tracking.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 16:38:13
I don't recall arguing Biden never said it, just he has had his position laid out for a long time (no new fracking on fed lands)

Trump ignores it... plus just assigns Green New Deal and only Medicare-for-all and 'super predators' to Biden as he's a fucking liar
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:45:35
Tw, if it is an ipod and biden was staring at it the entire time to know his talking points, would it matter to you?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 16:45:51
Russia Russia Russia reporting was accurate

white supremacists think Trump is on their side, so self-evident that he fails on that... granted, it's probably more due to Trumps mental illnesses that make it hard for him to ever say anything bad about those who like him (a condition that alone makes him unfit for office)

the Grand Canyon stuff was mostly accurate, and barely a story anyway
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 16:47:25
"Tw, if it is an ipod and biden was staring at it the entire time to know his talking points, would it matter to you?"

yes? if Trump had a hamster up his ass, would it matter to you?
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:48:14
So it would bother you?
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:49:07
And yes, if trump had a hamster up his ass i would question his sanity.

See how i can answer a question?
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:55:50
Also, biggest ipad on the market is 13". So that object in her hand that she swiftly gets off stage with could be an ipad.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 16:56:24
great, we both answered pointless questions

...although no evidence there wasn't a hamster
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 16:57:31
so you're saying Trump was using an iPad?

I guess that explains why he was totally different than usual
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 16:57:33
Communists like China think Biden is on their side....

Grand Cannyon was NOT accurate. I myself immediately was like WTF! Until I found out the truth.

And it's as much of a story as an IPad....which I wouldnt care much if either candidate had an IPad.
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:00:36
Difference is trump didnt use his ipad. He stared at biden the entire time. Biden stared at his ipad for answers.
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:04:48
Watching the rallies.
Biden read talking points off a teleprompter. And only has 1 rally this weekend.

Trump speaks to the crowd with energy. Shows video of biden lying about fracking, fossil fuels, social security and medicare. And he has 5 rallies this weekend. MAGA
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:06:10
Also biden has about 100 people in cars at his rally.

Trump has thousands of people showing up to see him speak. The enthusiasm gap is real.
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:15:40
Well it just goes to his general mental performance which he definitley has senior moments and struggles with abstrwct thought that isnt a talking point.
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:27:15
There's apparently a video going around of Hunter Biden smoking crack and getting a footjob from some Chink bitch. Lulz. There's some speculation that she's underage so I haven't searched for it and suggest you don't either. There's also a rumor that he had naked pics of his niece from when she was 14. So did Hunter fuck his brother's widow and their daughter?
obaminated
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:31:28
Crack head gonna behave like a crack head.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 17:39:53
Trump has teleprompters -EVERY- rally

& if when he's not using it, i guarantee he's not saying anything factual or of any importance (also true even when reading it for that matter... they have it just to try to curb his ramblings some)


at debate there were no iPads... there's zero indication of iPads...

as you're a young person (i think), perhaps unaware of physical "notepads"... (that Windows program is named after them)

http://s1-...Notepads-MainImage_450x450.jpg

in the old days people used "pens" or "pencils" to draw letters by hand rather than typing... Biden has clearly torn off the pages he wrote on & folded them, thus leaving behind the "notepad" (which almost always have stiff backing) thus demonstrating he left the unused portion behind as you wouldn't fold that over

now you provide evidence there were iPads...
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:48:05
Tw, With Trump he isn't reliant off reading a promoter, that's the difference.
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 17:50:44
"smoking crack and getting a footjob from some Chink bitch. Lulz"

Havn't we all been there.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 17:51:38
"With Trump he isn't reliant off reading a promoter"

yes, he fucking is... show me him saying something of value not from teleprompter (even by your standard of value)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 17:53:47
he needed a telprompter to describe the debate matchup of Biden vs himself...
http://twi...ump/status/1320075805217742849

only breaking from prompter to lie about himself
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 17:58:13
example of Biden speaking entirely w/ no prompter... (at least that i can see, they have zoomed out view early)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10RWnZh41Ds

and didn't take me long to find... was first google result for "Biden rally"
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Oct 24 18:04:25
Habebe
Member Sat Oct 24 17:50:44
"Havn't we all been there."

Never took you for a footnigga. http://stonetoss.com/comic/acquired-tastes/
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 18:34:54
Renzo, Lol, you have no problem seeing me smoke.crack?

Nah, I never got the whole foot thing.Im an ass and pussy kind of guy.

Plus an amphetamine guy, I jate come and never tried crack...Coke was too intense for me, I figured crack would jist be worse.
renzo marQuez
Member
Sat Oct 24 18:36:16
Lol. Was just looking for an excuse to post that comic.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Oct 24 18:38:54
Trump when he hears "cocaine"
http://twi...s22/status/1319464593287204864

"omg, did he find me out? what was he saying?"
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 18:40:31
It was funny.

I habe turnes bitches away for having fucked up feer though.

I remember this one chick my buddy tried to set me up with, fucking barbie rubble feet, this was almost 15 years ago.
Habebe
Member
Sat Oct 24 18:41:22
I jate come= I hate coke.
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