Utopia Talk / Politics / USA becoming Turkey

tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 26 13:47:58 according to some Swedes... " V-Party’s Illiberalism Index shows that the Republican party in the US has retreated from upholding democratic norms in recent years. Its rhetoric is closer to authoritarian parties, such as AKP in Turkey and Fidesz in Hungary. Conversely, the Democratic party has retained a commitment to longstanding democratic standards " full study: http://www...a2abe3f62/briefing_paper_9.pdf see figure 1... R's rushing toward Turkey by figure 2, it's all Trump shit
Rugian Member	Mon Oct 26 13:52:23 tumbleweed the wanderer Wed Oct 21 14:51:56 "'one study estimates'... is not proof of anything"
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Oct 26 13:52:51 true
Forwyn Member	Mon Oct 26 15:03:33 "The five indicators capturing cultural issues place the Republicans consistently to the right of the center. Democrats also fare to the right of the median party in democracies in this millennium in terms of the role of religion in politics, immigration, and support of state measures to enhance the equal participation of women in the labor market. They fare to the left of the spectrum when it comes to support for LGBT equality and opposing the idea of cultural superiority of particular group or nation." Lulz
jergul large member	Mon Oct 26 15:09:19 Just in time for Thanksgiving too!
sam adams Member	Mon Oct 26 15:50:54 A swedish study about politics. Which is worth less? That, british track and trace ability, or Venezuelan vaccines?
Forwyn Member	Mon Oct 26 15:58:58 I mean really This is an indicator of a commitment to democratic norms: "support of state measures to enhance the equal participation of women in the labor market." Fucking lulz
Paramount Member	Mon Oct 26 16:12:44 Main findings: Autocratization – the decline of democratic traits – accelerates in the world: for the first time since 2001, autocracies are in the majority: 92 countries – home to 54% of the global population. Almost 35% of the world’s population live in autocratizing nations – 2.6 billion people. EU has its first non-democracy as a member: Hungary is now classed as an electoral authoritarian regime. Major G20 nations and all regions of the world are part of the “third wave of autocratization”: autocratization is affecting Brazil, India, the United States of America, and Turkey, which are major economies with sizeable populations, exercising substantial global military, economic, and political influence. Latin America is back to a level last recorded in the early 1990s while Eastern Europe and Central Asia are at post-Soviet Union lows. India is on the verge of losing its status as a democracy due to the severely shrinking of space for the media, civil society, and the opposition under Prime Minister Modi’s government. Pro-democracy resistance grows from 27% in 2009 to 44% in 2019 amidst the autocratization surge. During 2019, citizens in 29 democracies mobilized against autocratization, such as in Bolivia, Poland, and Malawi. Citizens staged mass protests in 34 autocracies, among them Algeria, Hong Kong, and Sudan. http://www.v-dem.net/en/ Democracy is so 1980-ish.
habebe Member	Mon Oct 26 16:55:02 Swedens world view is....different.
habebe Member	Mon Oct 26 16:57:22 They seem to gauge European democracies and not US states as individual democracies for starters.
habebe Member	Mon Oct 26 16:59:43 How is firearm ownership/rights not even measured as authoritarian?
Rugian Member	Mon Oct 26 17:21:48 "Swedens world view is....different." It's a great example of SJW mentality. In their eyes, democracy and social justice causes are inextricably linked to one another...if you dont have the latter, the former must be considered a failure and its legitimacy should be questioned. Contrast that with conservatives, who believe that you can have a democracy without social justice. But in the minds of the authors of this study, that's an "authoritarian" mentality. And let's be clear - the "womens' rights" they're referring to here arent basic rights like the right to vote or the right not to be honor killed by your husbands. Rather, its extremist leftist "rights" like the ability to get taxpayer-funded abortions at 39 weeks, having guaranteed gender quotas on corporate boards, and reclassifying sexual assault as a "guilty unless proven innocent" crime. Fuck off with that noise.
Forwyn Member	Mon Oct 26 18:03:52 30% women: not diverse 90% women: very diverse!
Paramount Member	Tue Oct 27 01:54:07 America is a religious dicatorship. It is a country where they force their religious believes and values upon people.
jergul large member	Tue Oct 27 02:04:47 Ruggy We have much stricter abortion laws than you do. Why does board composition matter to you? Documenting consent is a firmly established practice Fuck off with the fake outrage.
Paramount Member	Tue Oct 27 03:00:23 ”Chop em up like the Saudis do.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T5cSiPHE90 ^ Americans wants to be like Saudi Arabia. Maybe USA is like Saudi Arabia also. A mix of Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
Habebe Member	Tue Oct 27 03:12:24 I wonder what Paramount really thinks it is like to live in the US?
Habebe Member	Tue Oct 27 03:14:51 Also, women working is not Democratic nor is it anti authoritarian,The Nazis had women working as well as NK, does that mean its a democratic trait? Its just wierd to measure.democraticness vs Authoritarian by such measures.
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