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Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 09 07:44:48
So I get that 2 GA senators will be picked Jan. 5th on a run off.

But who are the other 2 senators that we still don't know who won? They keep saying its 48-48.

And where are these house seats that are still not known?
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 09 07:50:29
So some googling seems to say one of the other Senate races is tom Tillis V Cunningham in NC.

IDK the other one. Tillis seems.up but too close to call.
renzo marQuez
Member
Mon Nov 09 07:55:49
The other one is Alaska. The Republican will win easily but Alaska has only counted 47%. This is the same reason its electoral votes haven't been projected to Trump.
Habebe
Member
Mon Nov 09 07:56:01
http://www...s/election-results/house-2020/

This has a pretty comprehensive list for house races.

D218
R200

218 is majority so at the very least the D's hold majority.
jergul
large member
Mon Nov 09 08:35:27
habebe
Ty. Finally some evidence the election was corrupt and stolen. The mismatch between state races and Trump's support clearly indicates the GOP stole votes at state level.
habebe
Member
Mon Nov 09 08:50:36
Jergul, Likley. We should demand a recount and audit immediately.
habebe
Member
Mon Nov 09 08:52:37
I know the Republican party of TX pulled some grimey shit by trying to ban Libertarians from a bunch of positions. Keep in mind that TX is a ppace where Libertarians likley have more support than other states.

Im not sure they were successful in the end or not.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 08:56:58
"The mismatch between state races and Trump's support clearly indicates the GOP stole votes at state level."

Its actually quite the opposite. Ballots for Biden with no down-ballot votes are the suspect ones.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:01:19
lmfao
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:04:42
WoO

I'm going to assume that that lmfao was for both jergul and I. Thanks.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:12:23
You're serious, that's the sad difference.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:15:37
And that one ill assume was for jergul. Ty again.
Dakyron
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:20:33
Imagine the surprise that being a mega-asshole might not have political benefit...
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:25:55
You can assume whatever you want, but in the end, there is no giant conspiracy to steal the election and you're a retard. The only question left is once all the litigation shows that, will you accept it? My guess is no.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:32:41
"You can assume whatever you want, but in the end, there is no giant conspiracy to steal the election"

Jergul has stated otherwise. Therefore, your comments apply to him.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:34:24
I see Rugian is already a bottle or so in today. Get 'er done, buddy! Don't drink yourself to death or anything, though.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 09:41:40
Gaslighting is usually more effective when the contrary evidence isn't ten posts above you in the same thread.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Nov 09 10:32:23
The evidence is that jergul was joking and you were serious. We know you're a Trump fluffer and an admitted believer in the "muh election was stolen" bullshit.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 10:50:43
I have never been a Russiagate CTer. Thanks for playing though
Wrath of Orion
Member
Mon Nov 09 11:06:50
I never claimed you were, but you are most definitely a Trump CT nutter.
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 11:38:01
[Citation needed]
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 09 12:36:23
"Ballots for Biden with no down-ballot votes are the suspect ones."

- self-evidently tons of people who don't normally vote did for this one

- & almost certainly reason was to vote for or against the orange blob appearing in the news daily w/ his craziness

- they haven't cared about other races in the past (given they didn't vote), so no reason they'd start now & only voted on the race that brought them out

not suspicious


even i didn't know shit about the down ballot people... just googled [their name + scandal] & [their name + Trump] (anyone saying/doing anything pro-Trump was definitely out)
Rugian
Member
Mon Nov 09 12:39:20
"even i didn't know shit about the down ballot people"

It is becoming increasingly obvious that you are the type of voter who probably should be disenfrancised.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Nov 09 12:47:37
we are legion... the only point of yard signs is for uninformed people... they give no info, just want people to see the name & hopefully get it stuck in heads
jergul
large member
Mon Nov 09 17:55:15
Yard signs allow people to show support. People often like feeling involved.
habebe
Member
Tue Nov 10 03:51:45
On to the house Democrats win in Iowa, but it may be recounted, IDK.

with 100% of the vote in

D 196,670
R 196,518

152 votes is insanely close.
patom
Member
Tue Nov 10 04:13:02
Yard signs work. I had 2 for Biden/Harris and 2 for Congressman Jared Golden:)
Average Ameriacn
Member
Tue Nov 10 04:37:35
patom how much did Soros pay you?
patom
Member
Tue Nov 10 05:39:00
AA 1 bottle of Black Velvet :) BTW I have a Birthday coming next month. hint hint ;)
Average Ameriacn
Member
Tue Nov 10 06:52:03
I'll send you some Trump merch for 2024.
patom
Member
Tue Nov 10 09:10:36
Thanks I'll give it all to Aspire. He's a Trump fan.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Nov 10 10:00:00
"- self-evidently tons of people who don't normally vote did for this one

- & almost certainly reason was to vote for or against the orange blob appearing in the news daily w/ his craziness

- they haven't cared about other races in the past (given they didn't vote), so no reason they'd start now & only voted on the race that brought them out

not suspicious


even i didn't know shit about the down ballot people... just googled [their name + scandal] & [their name + Trump] (anyone saying/doing anything pro-Trump was definitely out)"

Lol. Another argument for poll testing
Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 10 10:16:47
So the House has several races that are virtually tied, i think like 4 races.Ive seen arebseperated by less than 200 votes.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 11 09:43:22
So updated numbers estimate

205 R
218 D

12 unknown.

Now they list only 5 " hot races" all 5 currently favor Republicans.They all seem fairly close and some have as little as 70% reporting so that doesnt mean likley* R, just currently ahead.

IF it turns out 217/218 that woyld be insane.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 11 09:47:26
I should point out for context the only reason Rs seem to be doing well is because of perception that the Dems would expand there already 30 some seat lead. Every seat is up for election so if anything the Dems still took the majority of seats.
Dukhat
Member
Wed Nov 11 21:47:09
Republicans will gerrymander themselves a majority. It will be up to Biden to hold the presidency for the next 8 years and limit the damage because nothing is getting done :/
Y2A
Member
Wed Nov 11 22:24:02
Some anecdotes about the House:

(1) Two Korean republican women likely* elected in Southern CA....eventual result of 90s era roof Koreans

*one is not yet called

(2) Jeff Van Drew, south NJ democratic turncoat, wins his seat.

(3) The only true** called Democratic flip is in the Atlanta suburbs. Along with massive shifts seen in the Presidential race it looks like the Atlanta area will be more and more important to Dems in the future.

**two flips in North Carolina appear to be due to re-districting

(4) Will Hurd's (retiring) long sought after South Texas seat kept in Repub hands, in line with Dems poor results in South Texas.

(5) Justin Amash's (retiring) seat kept in Repubs hand
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 12 05:58:39
Dukhat, Likley. Republicans won now 3 state legislatures and lost none.On census year that's important.

Also in 2024 Texas will have 3 new seats and Fla will have 2 more. CA will only lose 1.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 12 06:10:08
They are showing

202 R
228 D

But some are just not called

NY district 11 with 100% of the vote the R leads by almost 10%

NY district 22 is the same except 95% of the vote in

Iowa District 2 the R leads by 40 votes with 100% of the votes in, virtual tie, probably recount.

CA district 21 &25 lean R but still waiting on vote totals.
patom
Member
Thu Nov 12 06:43:17
Alaska and N. Carolina Senate seats called for Republicans.
This leaves the 2 contested seats in Ga.
Ga. Gov. has now started a manual recount which will take some time.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 12 06:47:59
GA, will get interesting with so much banking on it.
jergul
large member
Thu Nov 12 08:10:55
Nothing is banking on the recount.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 12 08:36:47
Jergul, I meant the Jan. 5th Senate Elections in GA.
patom
Member
Thu Nov 12 08:40:16
Maybe the Gov. is hoping the recount will eliminate the run off elections.
habebe
Member
Thu Nov 12 10:23:40
Well, one of them. The one that was 3 way went 30% D, and 20 some for the two Reps each.
Y2A
Member
Thu Nov 12 20:23:44
Collins owns Maine
Habebe
Member
Fri Nov 13 07:12:46
Even without the GA seats people like Steve Manchin a blue dog Democrat, has already said he wont for for court packing or green new deal, AOC kind of shit.
habebe
Member
Tue Nov 17 16:29:23
http://fiv...0-election-uncalled-races/?amp

This has a breakdown of the unresolved races.

in short 11 races are still waiting of them

3 D in the lead.

6 R in the lead.

2 even.
habebe
Member
Sun Nov 22 13:14:08
Dems are now projected to take 222.

Reps are looking at maybe 213, maybe less.

So the Dems have atleast a 9 seat lead out of 435.

State legislatures is where Republicans really shine. I think they have fallen amongst dominating Governerships though in the last decade.

Again nationally this was a great election for Democrats.The only reason it doesnt feel that way is because politically and numerically they were heavily favored.Almost twice as many Republican Senators were up for election.

The house has less of a numerical issue since they're all up for election , but there is incumbency.
habebe
Member
Sun Nov 22 13:21:18
http://bal...position_of_state_legislatures

This is a good breakdown of state legislatures and such.
jergul
large member
Sun Nov 22 14:03:59
"Again nationally this was a great election for Democrats."

Yepp.
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