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patom
Member Wed Nov 11 08:15:46
Makes claim, then recants claim, then recants recant.

Apparently a postal worker from Erie Pa. claimed that he overheard supervisors saying they were backdating ballots to prior to Nov. 3. so that they could be counted.

Then he recanted saying that he made up the story.

Now saying he was tricked into recanting his original story.

Ballot tampering is a pretty serious charge and can end up with jail time and large fines.

The question that pops into my head, if this is all true, how many people would have to be involved to make a significant if any impact on the election.
1st you would need to know who the votes were for or against to filter out those you don't want or want.
2nd that would require that you open the ballots at the Post Office to determine how they are voting. How many people would be required to be in on the fix?
3rd what could keep this hushed up if all but one worker kept silent?

Habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 08:50:15
The liberal media will say that Philly doesn't have a history of voter fraud or atleast not mention that it does.

We have already seen in may of this year a man convicted of casting illegal votes for Democrats.Not disputed.

Then there is the 1993 case, that actually reversed an election due to forged absentee ballots by Democrats in Philly.

http://www...t/amphtml/1993/1203/03022.html

There are probanly plenty more that havnt been found out.

So Philly is somewhere that has a serious history of the Democratic party being corrupt and forging votes.

obaminated
Member Wed Nov 11 08:55:03
This means nothing to you patom. You pretend to care about it

patom
Member Wed Nov 11 11:29:08
Habebe, how many million would it take to rig the POTUS election? With how many people involved?

So far all the fraud cases seem to be single individuals. Who have been caught and charged with voter fraud. Are you assuming that Philly is the only city with possible voter fraud? Are you also assuming that only Democrats have committed fraud?

patom
Member Wed Nov 11 11:32:11
Obaminated, how can you say it means nothing to me? If it meant nothing to me I wouldn't have posed these questions.
Do you have any answers to the questions?

habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 11:43:54
Tom,First off look into the 1993 case which involved mass voter fraud between tricked people and forged votes, all absentee ballots.

According to Jimmy Carter's organization for fair elections he has listed mail in votes as the greatest risk for fraud.

No, Philly is not the only place with possible or even plausible fraud. However Philly is to voter fraud what the old south was to voter intimidation.

Democrats are not the only ones who commit fraud. Democrats and Republicans both have a history of shennanigans, but they tend to follow different patterns.

I also doubt that whatever voter fraud happened that it wasn't enough to change the outcome of the election unless you consider banning the green party as fraud.

I do think this, that both the DNC and the RNC pull shit that flies against " free and fair" elections on the regular.

Generally it doesn't matter though until the election is cunt hair close.

This whole faith in this system argument is BS. Every election tend to be looked at as fair by thenwinners and fraudelent by the losers.

Look at Stacey Abrahams, her claim to fame is claiming she had an election stolen from her.

Al Gore took back and went to the courts to try to overturn an election. So this isnt entirley new territory. The fact that it's in several states is new.But other than that these margins are withing normal recount range.

Wrath of Orion
Member Wed Nov 11 11:45:12
No Trump fluffer lawsuits have made progress in courts. Most have been thrown out very rapidly for lack of evidence. What a dumpster fire, which is typical for anything Trump.

habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 11:45:22
As for how many million would it take? 100k votes could probably tip this election, or about there.

patom
Member Wed Nov 11 11:52:36
So how many people would have to be involved to 100k votes? You cant' pull something of that magnitude in a vacuum.

The Erie Pa. postal worker being the only one to notice or hear anything? Still no idea how many ballots were (allegedly) altered.

Wrath of Orion
Member Wed Nov 11 11:53:47
http://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1326311204923576321

lmfao

Wrath of Orion
Member Wed Nov 11 11:56:04
PA's one confirmed case of voter fraud, and it was for Trump.

habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 11:58:19
Tom, Again to repeat myself

"
I also doubt that whatever voter fraud happened that it wasn't enough to change the outcome of the election unless you consider banning the green party as fraud."

Even with the Greens and lax voter rules like the signatures not matching , Biden still would probably be ahead.

habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 11:59:58
fetterman is clearly a savage.... They have Wawa, who gors to sheets over WaWa?

patom
Member Wed Nov 11 12:12:54
WaWas were just starting around Philly when I left the area 35 years ago. I've heard they make a decent Hoagie though.

tumbleweed
the wanderer Wed Nov 11 12:22:22
on OP thing, any claims of back-dating ballots make no difference as those ballots (by definition) would be arriving after election day & those were few in number & not relevant to Biden's win*
(so you'll need 40,000 other ballots also tossed)

& i'm assume he recanted his recant as GoFundMe cancelled his page where he was raising tons off cultists (& there's no crime in lying to the public)

---

* and specifically for Erie, where this liar is from:
"
The Erie Times-News on Tuesday morning reviewed 129 mail-in ballot envelopes that were postmarked Nov. 3 but arrived at the Erie County Board of Elections after Election Day.

Of those 129 ballots, only two postmarked Nov. 3 were processed through the Erie facility, the Times-News discovered in its review, which was conducted in the presence of Erie County Board of Elections Chairman Carl Anderson and others.
"
http://www...ie-postal-facility/6230622002/

thus he witnessed at most 2 ballots being back-dated... or is lying (& being connected to Project Veritas doesn't help)... yet Trump tweeted it out, so i'm sure tons more funds will be rolling in for him

habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 12:48:47
Tom, I used to.do the landscaping for 1 one right on the BLVD. Worst fucking store to work. Not that the land was extensive or anything, fairly small, but there is a bus stop right there and literally it would take2 of use 45 minutes just to pick up the trash so that we could mow.

As for hoagies, hands down the bst hoagie from a chain store, and even beats out most mom n pop pizza shops. But there non sandwich foods are nothing special.

patom
Member Wed Nov 11 15:00:15
The last time I was in Philly was 11 years ago. Never got around to trying a WaWa hoagie or anything else at WaWa. I did however, thanks to my cousins, get the absolute best liverwurst, onion with mustard on freshly baked Jewish Rye bread sandwich that I have ever eaten.
It was some Jewish Deli on the Main Line. I would go broke commuting for a sandwich if I lived there.

habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 15:20:21
I miss the ethnic foods down here. Or even lilenthe mom n pop shops. Down here they just dont exist like they do in Philly area.

habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 15:20:50
Ornlike porkroll , I never knew that and scrapple were local foods.

patom
Member Wed Nov 11 15:55:27
I spent a goodly portion of my over the road truck driving in the south. I survived on hamburger steak and fries. IMO Southern cuisine leaves a lot to be desired. There were only a few Truck Stops I would eat at. Hint to tourists, Truck Drivers don't necessarily eat at the best food places. They pull in these places because the parking is handy.

Habebe
Member Wed Nov 11 15:59:18
I think its more that there isnt much southern cuisine around. I like southern dishes ( some) but overwhelmingly the restaurant landscape is dominated by fast food, almost never eat out down here. Ive found one good italian place run by italians from SE PA...there is a surprising amount of migrants from PA to SC.

werewolf dictator
Member Wed Nov 11 18:19:19
why does benfords law reveal election fraud in iran.. but means nothing when bidens tallies violate it

Dukhat
Member Wed Nov 11 23:00:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etx0k1nLn78

Though all these cuckservatives who suddenly have an interest in statistics really won't bother to study more and understand why they're wrong. Just like with every other fucking issue.

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patom Member	Wed Nov 11 08:15:46 Makes claim, then recants claim, then recants recant. Apparently a postal worker from Erie Pa. claimed that he overheard supervisors saying they were backdating ballots to prior to Nov. 3. so that they could be counted. Then he recanted saying that he made up the story. Now saying he was tricked into recanting his original story. Ballot tampering is a pretty serious charge and can end up with jail time and large fines. The question that pops into my head, if this is all true, how many people would have to be involved to make a significant if any impact on the election. 1st you would need to know who the votes were for or against to filter out those you don't want or want. 2nd that would require that you open the ballots at the Post Office to determine how they are voting. How many people would be required to be in on the fix? 3rd what could keep this hushed up if all but one worker kept silent?
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 08:50:15 The liberal media will say that Philly doesn't have a history of voter fraud or atleast not mention that it does. We have already seen in may of this year a man convicted of casting illegal votes for Democrats.Not disputed. Then there is the 1993 case, that actually reversed an election due to forged absentee ballots by Democrats in Philly. http://www...t/amphtml/1993/1203/03022.html There are probanly plenty more that havnt been found out. So Philly is somewhere that has a serious history of the Democratic party being corrupt and forging votes.
obaminated Member	Wed Nov 11 08:55:03 This means nothing to you patom. You pretend to care about it
patom Member	Wed Nov 11 11:29:08 Habebe, how many million would it take to rig the POTUS election? With how many people involved? So far all the fraud cases seem to be single individuals. Who have been caught and charged with voter fraud. Are you assuming that Philly is the only city with possible voter fraud? Are you also assuming that only Democrats have committed fraud?
patom Member	Wed Nov 11 11:32:11 Obaminated, how can you say it means nothing to me? If it meant nothing to me I wouldn't have posed these questions. Do you have any answers to the questions?
habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 11:43:54 Tom,First off look into the 1993 case which involved mass voter fraud between tricked people and forged votes, all absentee ballots. According to Jimmy Carter's organization for fair elections he has listed mail in votes as the greatest risk for fraud. No, Philly is not the only place with possible or even plausible fraud. However Philly is to voter fraud what the old south was to voter intimidation. Democrats are not the only ones who commit fraud. Democrats and Republicans both have a history of shennanigans, but they tend to follow different patterns. I also doubt that whatever voter fraud happened that it wasn't enough to change the outcome of the election unless you consider banning the green party as fraud. I do think this, that both the DNC and the RNC pull shit that flies against " free and fair" elections on the regular. Generally it doesn't matter though until the election is cunt hair close. This whole faith in this system argument is BS. Every election tend to be looked at as fair by thenwinners and fraudelent by the losers. Look at Stacey Abrahams, her claim to fame is claiming she had an election stolen from her. Al Gore took back and went to the courts to try to overturn an election. So this isnt entirley new territory. The fact that it's in several states is new.But other than that these margins are withing normal recount range.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Nov 11 11:45:12 No Trump fluffer lawsuits have made progress in courts. Most have been thrown out very rapidly for lack of evidence. What a dumpster fire, which is typical for anything Trump.
habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 11:45:22 As for how many million would it take? 100k votes could probably tip this election, or about there.
patom Member	Wed Nov 11 11:52:36 So how many people would have to be involved to 100k votes? You cant' pull something of that magnitude in a vacuum. The Erie Pa. postal worker being the only one to notice or hear anything? Still no idea how many ballots were (allegedly) altered.
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Nov 11 11:53:47 http://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1326311204923576321 lmfao
Wrath of Orion Member	Wed Nov 11 11:56:04 PA's one confirmed case of voter fraud, and it was for Trump.
habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 11:58:19 Tom, Again to repeat myself " I also doubt that whatever voter fraud happened that it wasn't enough to change the outcome of the election unless you consider banning the green party as fraud." Even with the Greens and lax voter rules like the signatures not matching , Biden still would probably be ahead.
habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 11:59:58 fetterman is clearly a savage.... They have Wawa, who gors to sheets over WaWa?
patom Member	Wed Nov 11 12:12:54 WaWas were just starting around Philly when I left the area 35 years ago. I've heard they make a decent Hoagie though.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Nov 11 12:22:22 on OP thing, any claims of back-dating ballots make no difference as those ballots (by definition) would be arriving after election day & those were few in number & not relevant to Biden's win* (so you'll need 40,000 other ballots also tossed) & i'm assume he recanted his recant as GoFundMe cancelled his page where he was raising tons off cultists (& there's no crime in lying to the public) --- * and specifically for Erie, where this liar is from: " The Erie Times-News on Tuesday morning reviewed 129 mail-in ballot envelopes that were postmarked Nov. 3 but arrived at the Erie County Board of Elections after Election Day. Of those 129 ballots, only two postmarked Nov. 3 were processed through the Erie facility, the Times-News discovered in its review, which was conducted in the presence of Erie County Board of Elections Chairman Carl Anderson and others. " http://www...ie-postal-facility/6230622002/ thus he witnessed at most 2 ballots being back-dated... or is lying (& being connected to Project Veritas doesn't help)... yet Trump tweeted it out, so i'm sure tons more funds will be rolling in for him
habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 12:48:47 Tom, I used to.do the landscaping for 1 one right on the BLVD. Worst fucking store to work. Not that the land was extensive or anything, fairly small, but there is a bus stop right there and literally it would take2 of use 45 minutes just to pick up the trash so that we could mow. As for hoagies, hands down the bst hoagie from a chain store, and even beats out most mom n pop pizza shops. But there non sandwich foods are nothing special.
patom Member	Wed Nov 11 15:00:15 The last time I was in Philly was 11 years ago. Never got around to trying a WaWa hoagie or anything else at WaWa. I did however, thanks to my cousins, get the absolute best liverwurst, onion with mustard on freshly baked Jewish Rye bread sandwich that I have ever eaten. It was some Jewish Deli on the Main Line. I would go broke commuting for a sandwich if I lived there.
habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 15:20:21 I miss the ethnic foods down here. Or even lilenthe mom n pop shops. Down here they just dont exist like they do in Philly area.
habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 15:20:50 Ornlike porkroll , I never knew that and scrapple were local foods.
patom Member	Wed Nov 11 15:55:27 I spent a goodly portion of my over the road truck driving in the south. I survived on hamburger steak and fries. IMO Southern cuisine leaves a lot to be desired. There were only a few Truck Stops I would eat at. Hint to tourists, Truck Drivers don't necessarily eat at the best food places. They pull in these places because the parking is handy.
Habebe Member	Wed Nov 11 15:59:18 I think its more that there isnt much southern cuisine around. I like southern dishes ( some) but overwhelmingly the restaurant landscape is dominated by fast food, almost never eat out down here. Ive found one good italian place run by italians from SE PA...there is a surprising amount of migrants from PA to SC.
werewolf dictator Member	Wed Nov 11 18:19:19 why does benfords law reveal election fraud in iran.. but means nothing when bidens tallies violate it
Dukhat Member	Wed Nov 11 23:00:56 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etx0k1nLn78 Though all these cuckservatives who suddenly have an interest in statistics really won't bother to study more and understand why they're wrong. Just like with every other fucking issue.
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