Utopia Talk / Politics / Rugian, Habebe, etc.

patom Member	Fri Nov 13 08:45:54 how much have you contributed? http://www...-under-8k-trump-215918486.html
Paramount Member	Fri Nov 13 08:51:41 rofl, more fraud. I'm amazed that people still support this corrupt liar.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 09:02:35 Tom apparently only reads last week's newspapers because this is the 2nd time this week he was like way late with the story. Pretty sure this is common knowledge its spilt between different funds. Still not nearly as bad as the DNC claiming in court that 1. They don't have to follow their own party rules and as such are legally allowed to lie to donators to take their money. 2. That the DNC owes no one a fair primary election. This is in court, on the record.
chuck Member	Fri Nov 13 09:14:02 "But Democrats" - Habebe
Daemon Member	Fri Nov 13 09:14:42 "Still not nearly as bad as the DNC ..." habebe why do you have to derail every thread?
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 09:17:12 Daemon/Chuck, Why does the left constantly have pot call the kettle black? This is like Trump claiming someone calls people names. And afaik, its open knowledge that they split the funding.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 09:21:30 Let me ask this, are the people donating complaining about this? Or is it mostly the left wing news sites? Is there a class action lawsuit against this? Id venture a guess that most people donating to this. Fund don't mind the funds going to these places, if thats the case tham there is nothing wrong going on.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 13 09:57:12 Daemon Maybe habebe brings up Democrats' shenanigans because you never do? Its fair to say that you only think one side is worthy of criticism. Anyway, we're ready working to build up the war chest for Trump's 2024 campaign. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AGAIN!!!!!!!!
Daemon Member	Fri Nov 13 10:26:04 Rugian, yes I'm not neutral. Trump was openly hostile against Germany, how do expect me to react to that? Sure I hoped that he would lose the election. So far I'm not a fan of Biden either, but I will give him a chance to become worthy of my good will^^
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 10:41:20 I regularly watch DW news ( English) and it's crazy how they paimt Trump as literally orange Hitler. Im also a big fan of something can be wrong in its own right.An act is not rendered good because multiple people do it.But there afe levels of gray. Killimg someone is worse than beating them up. But it does add context. Even more telling in this case is if the people donating are not upset, then this is a non story made to push a narrative. What about this is not standard practice?
patom Member	Fri Nov 13 12:10:38 I'm thinking that the majority of them don't even know where their money is going.
habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 12:19:23 Tom, I think they know its going to help Trump. And these people are ok with that. The lawsuit I mentioned earlier was people donating to Bernie Sanders and the DNC using that money against Bernie Sanders, literally. To the point they sued andnthe response from the DNC was that they dont owe anyone fair elections and that any rules they claim as party rules dont have to be followed because they didn't have to make them anyway. Seriously think about that and tell me that is the sort qualities you want in a political party? As a stand alone issue. Seperate.from what the Republicans do.
patom Member	Fri Nov 13 13:35:17 I'm a fan of Bernie. Yet I think he should have joined the Democrat Party a long time ago. I can only hope that the Dems would adopt some of his ideas. He has been consistent in his desire to serve the people of America as best he can. The citizens of Vermont have consistently shown their support for him in every election. from when he barely won his first election each one since he's gained % of the vote. Can you show that kind of consistent enthusiasm for any current Republicans?
habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 13:40:31 Im actually fan of Bernie myself but for the opposite reasons. His ideas I think are often terrible, but I trust Bernie more than most politicians.He is authentic. "We want to raise your taxes and give you all a bunch of tax paid for shit"
kargen Member	Fri Nov 13 18:05:32 This seems as good a place as any to ask.. Two of my friends both huge supporters of President Trump have told me he is going to start his own news station to compete with CNN and others. This PAC was in part created to help fund the start-up. Anybody else heard anything about TrumpTV?
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 18:23:08 Kargen, Yeah, its all rumors but fingers crossed.
Wrath of Orion Member	Fri Nov 13 18:45:37 Source after source have repeatedly said Trump knows he lost, but the delays are now about monetizing the situation for Trump's future plans. That includes his bait and switch PAC, etc. That's the person most Republican are terrified of and Trump fluffers worship.
Habebe Member	Fri Nov 13 19:07:38 Obi-wan Trump will only become more powerful if they strike him down. Even Trump said today " whoever the new president is", thats about as good as ypur going to get. They are gathering support for the GA elections and then I think Trump will somehow find a way to stay very vocal and active in politics. Whether that be through TrumpTV or some other platform like a YouTube podcast, I have no idea.
patom Member	Fri Nov 13 21:08:19 What ever Trump is on, being old fashioned, I have control of what I watch and know all about the operation of the on/off switch.
Y2A Member	Sat Nov 14 00:54:41 it's a cult, the cult leaders get the money from the cult followers, the cult followers don't ask any questions. Simple.
habebe Member	Sat Nov 14 06:16:55 y2a, But again if the donors are not upset, what is the problem? This is a liberal made up argument. Its like when liberal white people get offended for black people because the black people are not actually offended.
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