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Habebe
Member
Tue Nov 17 23:35:17
Why havn't we seen a crippled multigendered Muslim for chancellor yet?
habebe
Member
Tue Nov 17 23:42:10
All 28 European commissioners are white and only three of the 751 MEPs are black


http://www...brexit-likely-to-make-it-worse
Daemon
Member
Wed Nov 18 04:08:30
Give me your address and I send you a fish.
habebe
Member
Wed Nov 18 05:23:48
umm, I kive at Jerguls house.
Rugian
Member
Wed Nov 18 08:49:25
"Why havn't we seen a crippled multigendered Muslim for chancellor yet?"

Give it a few more decades.

"It’s been no secret that Germany, which has a reputation as the economic engine of Europe, is in a troubling demographic predicament. With one of the oldest populations in Europe, and a low fertility rate of just 1.5 births per woman, it is only a matter of time before the rubber hits the road to affect growth in the country.

That time may be finally creeping in, and the country is poised to hit a dubious milestone in the next year that really crystallizes concerns around the demographic composition of Germany’s population.

By 2019, there will be fewer Germans under 30 years old than there are Germans that are 60+ years.

This ratio is certainly extreme on a global level – after all, 24.4% of the world population is under the age of 14, and only 12.3% is older than 60 years.

However, it’s also pretty extreme in comparison to other developed countries. The U.N., for example, recently estimated that the 60 and older population made up an average of 22.1% of the total for all high-income countries."

http://www...y-scary-demographic-milestone/
Daemon
Member
Wed Nov 18 08:57:02
Rugian, from the article:
"Projections are from 2015"

That's why we invited fresh, young blood to Germany in 2015 and the following years!
http://www...intelligence-hkaisw8-pkdf2je09
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Nov 18 09:33:53
Europe can not take in more muslims, until it learns how to integrate the ideology and incapcitate the bad code. You know, the way it did with Christianity, but that took over a thousand years and there was simply less bad code.

There, I said it.
Dakyron
Member
Wed Nov 18 09:45:34
To use a business term, its because the immigrants end up in silos, where the only people they interact with are either people like themselves or liberal non-profit people who believe in cultural relativity.

Distribute the immigrants evenly throughout the country and they assimilate faster. You could also do things like have German programming with popular shows, but have be in Farsi/Arabic/whatever language. Get the immigrants to watch shows depicting German values and culture.

And of course, give them jobs where they are around non-immigrants, etc...
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Nov 18 10:47:07
Given that we have freedom of movement, among them the right to choose which part of the city we live in, a lot of segregation is voluntary. No one is forcing people to live in silos, they want to live where their own people live. At least here in Sweden, I have the sense that a small, but significant minority did not come here with the intention to become something else.

Me, my parents and sister lived in one of those silos, it took a little effort on the part of my parents, but it wasn’t that difficult to get another place.
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 18 10:51:25
Europe shits on the US all the time that were not progressive enough. Especially on DW news, I just think it's hypocritical that they will point thenfinger and teach their kids " In America there is so much racism" when if you look around as far as major nations go, the US is definitley the most progressive/intergrated on race relations
Habebe
Member
Wed Nov 18 10:53:53
Nim, Im not sure if it was less bad code or back when it was integrated in they had a lot more options for one, Europe cant start a Vatican city for Islam for example.
hood
Member
Wed Nov 18 11:10:15
To follow up on what Dak said, one of the very good things that the US has done in its past is integrate people into the society at large. 1st gen Americans (aka the first babies born here in a family) are often fully american. They may carry over culturally significant customs, but the children are far more integrated than the parents. By generation 2 or 3, there's no doubt that the entire family has become american in culture.

Hell, I have 2 coworkers who are 1st gen asian (eastern asian and muslim asian). They're about as American as you get.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Wed Nov 18 11:25:28
I would just say, the US does not (like Sweden and much of Europe) have the social insurance package upon entering and additionally gain with residency, that makes it possible to retreat from Swedish society, into those silos. These things need to be conditional, and in Sweden this is still being debated. In the US you work or you live on the street. You are essentially taking a chance. It is also a fact that you guys have a longer tradition and cultural experience, but also that you have a very strict and selective process. You get a disproportionate share of the intelligent and educated people.
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