Utopia Talk / Politics / CA is a failed state..."poopy britches"

Habebe rank	Wed Nov 25 08:18:01 2020 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1248900 Just more evidence that CA is a failed state.
jergul rank	Wed Nov 25 09:23:03 2020 Boy, Trump losing the election by more than 6 million votes really bunched up your panties.
habebe rank	Wed Nov 25 09:31:29 2020 what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
jergul rank	Wed Nov 25 13:41:59 2020 http://en....es_of_the_United_States_by_GDP
Habebe rank	Wed Nov 25 13:53:11 2020 Doesn't that make it all the worse? Its a state that has such a high gdp amd still fails at basic governance?
Habebe rank	Wed Nov 25 13:54:19 2020 If that is a measure of success, than Trump is the most successful world leader.
Rugian rank	Wed Nov 25 15:10:34 2020 "Tens of thousands of prison and jail inmates have carried out what prosecutors described Tuesday as possibly the largest fraud scheme in California history. The alleged crimes, which center on pandemic unemployment benefits, could total as much as $1 billion, Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said." Just to give a reminder...Nancy Pelosi wants the federal government to bail out her state. Now we see where that bailout money would be going.
renzo marQuez rank	Wed Nov 25 15:16:16 2020 jergul large member Wed Nov 25 01:23:03 "Boy, Trump losing the election by more than 6 million votes really bunched up your panties." 6 million you say? Hmmmm.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Nov 25 19:51:52 2020 No checks on covid handouts? Of course california is that retarded.
kargen rank	Wed Nov 25 22:12:28 2020 "Boy, Trump losing the election by more than 6 million votes really bunched up your panties." There are only 538 votes total.
jergul rank	Wed Nov 25 23:02:17 2020 Lol. And only our king can form a government in Norway :D. You live in a democracy kargen. I will be the first to tell you when that is no longer true (for example if 538 electors steal the election from the people of each state).
kargen rank	Wed Nov 25 23:13:23 2020 No we live in a Representative Republic. The United States of America has never been a Democracy.
jergul rank	Wed Nov 25 23:15:33 2020 And I live in a Monarchy where the King appoints governments. Like I said, I will tell you when you slip past the pale into fascism.
jergul rank	Wed Nov 25 23:17:28 2020 Kargen, 1935: Germany is a representative republic. Our leader is just using the laws available to him to do what is best for our country.
kargen rank	Wed Nov 25 23:46:58 2020 It is amazing the leaps of insane logic and hyperbole you will spew forth instead of admitting you fucked up and made a mistake. You even managed to work in a thinly veiled Hitler comparison. You need to accept you know very little about the United States and start googling shit before you post. It will save you all these embarrassing deflections when you get shit wrong. Prediction is President-elect Biden will win 306-232. 306 is a lot smaller than six million.
jergul rank	Wed Nov 25 23:57:31 2020 Kargen I am not the one employing insane logic and hyperbole. It's inherent to "The US has never been a democracy". There is nothing magic about your representative democracy. Governments are almost always formed indirectly. Thinly veiled? Well, hitler used the mechanisms put into place before he gained power to keep power until he shot himself. The road to fascism is paved with insane logic and hyperbole. You should try to cut back on it.
kargen rank	Thu Nov 26 00:10:00 2020 While our country does allow for a Democracy form of government at the local and state levels at the national level, as example choosing the president, it is a Representative Republic. So point still stands. The government type for the United States is not and has not been a Democracy. There are traits of a Democracy within the Republic. And we are taking away from the discussion on what a shit hole California is.
habebe rank	Thu Nov 26 00:40:29 2020 Jergul,You forget that Hitler also killed his political opponents. Afaik, Obama is the only president to order assassinations on US citizens without due process...could be wrong though. Also you forgot the big thing about Hitler, you know that minor detail where he executed millions of people in horrible conditions.
jergul rank	Thu Nov 26 01:06:56 2020 Kargen Representative democracy is democracy. You are typing nonsense. Representation is the norm, not the exception. What you are saying is true if, and only if, the electoral college does not follow the popular vote from each individual state. The term then would be a Fascist State. Habebe I can't breath.
habebe rank	Thu Nov 26 01:24:36 2020 Try Zyrtec and albuterol.
jergul rank	Thu Nov 26 01:59:51 2020 habebe Swoosh. Re genocide. Your go to solution to every global issue is nuking China. I know that is just you being you. We know you will never use nuclear weapons and would surrender to any country able to defeat you conventionally, because genocide on a global scale with weapons of mass destruction is just something the US would never even consider doing.
habebe rank	Thu Nov 26 02:07:54 2020 On a completely serious note though, you do realize the difference. However the largest intentiinal mass slaughters to date were carried out by the predecessors of the EU and China.
jergul rank	Thu Nov 26 02:16:30 2020 My point was always that adherence to legalistic slights of hand can have devastating consequences. Hitler ruled through emergency powers enacted entirely legally and nazi germany generally followed the rule of law where executive orders played an important part. The relatively advanced doors to the gas chambers were designed and delivered by engineering firms following the contract specifications they had with the state. It's the banality of evil, stupid.
habebe rank	Thu Nov 26 02:21:21 2020 Hitler clearly broke the law when he murdered his political opponents to foster his rise.
jergul rank	Thu Nov 26 02:29:36 2020 Perhaps he did, but the police and courts of the Weimar republic only charged, convicted, and jailed him for insurrection.
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