Utopia Talk / Politics / electoral vote confirmation

tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:20:51 they go alphabetical by state... a cultist traitor (Gosar) objected to Arizona (w/ an unspecified Senator also signing) for no real reason (that was read aloud anyway) so now both houses have to separate to debate the nonsense (both Houses having to agree to toss the Arizona votes for it to work)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:23:08 Ted Cruz was the traitor Senator... the Canadian whose father killed JFK
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 12:24:32 OMG , how absurd that they have to take a few hours to python political theatre....its a.good thing it doesnt last month's like an impeachment, that could really waste resources and focus to prevent pandemics and shit.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:26:40 traitor Scalia arguing not on fraud but on grounds changes were made to the voting process improperly (not by legislature) so basically they want to knowingly trash perfectly legitimate votes by citizens having no idea they were doing anything improperly they know Trump lost the State but give it to him anyway
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:31:28 "OMG , how absurd that they have to take a few hours to python political theatre....its a.good thing it doesnt last month's like an impeachment, that could really waste resources and focus to prevent pandemics and shit. " how terrible they've convinced 50+ million Americans that our elections are a total sham... (& now just fueling it more w/ these stunts) as to comparing to a month of justified immpeachment... this has been 2 months of total poison (or more like a year, or 4 years of poison really, about many aspects of America)... now they want 10 more days of poison as if it ANYTHING will ever change Trump's spewing of said poison Trump has alleged every type of fraud imaginable that allegedly changes 5 or 6 states, with exactly zero incident of any fraud actually demonstrated, w/ him continuing to repeat bullshit that has already been disproven... he doesn't give a shit at all about facts... never has
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:36:51 Mitch (despite being a horrible corrupt bastard) is siding w/ democracy/sanity... as was expected
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:40:12 correction: should be 'Scalise' not 'Scalia' up there
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:47:29 allegedly (from a The Blaze reporter): BREAKING: Trump supporters have breached the Capitol building, tearing down 4 layers of security fencing and are attempting to occupy the building — fighting federal police who are overrun This is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Thousands, police can’t stop them video of it: http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1346881968819105792
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 12:53:01 traitor Cruz (Canadian, assassin's son, ugly wife) is citing poll #'s of 30-something percent of public finding election was rigged & wanting the 10-day delay for a commission to investigate hopefully someone will ask him if he thinks ANY investigation of ANY amount of time would ever change Trump's lies... & his cultists believe only him... thus that polling will NEVER change substantially
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 12:55:04 Ok, tbh I googled Scalia thinking maybe someone else had that name. Anyway, Biden will be my president, and I hope I dont regret being glad he can more easily push through certain things. We better get that other 1400 a piece now. That said, I see nothing wrong with Trump contesting an election or campaigning. Its a free country.
jergul large member	Wed Jan 06 12:56:12 No one has yet come across as batshit crazy.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:02:28 so far no tweets by Trump to use the national guard against the rioting cultists
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:05:23 "#Breaking. We have just been evacuated out of the Cannon House Office building. Capitol Police yelled “Clear the building” did not say why. Holding in a secure location. " ~Tom Fitzgerald of a Fox affiliate some more combat footage http://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1346886665164361731 ...just like Hillary
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 13:06:46 tw, Are they burning and looting cities? How about taking over sections ofnthe cities and murdering people?
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 13:09:22 tw, So one guy shook a movable fence.... ans you bitch about false equivalency?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:11:00 "How about taking over sections of the cities and murdering people" kinda... was that a reference to the one person who was killed in that Seattle zone?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:14:08 "shook a movable fence" they've allegedly broken through several levels of barriers plus they were repeatedly encouraged to come by Trump himself... plus he did a riot pep-rally to the cultists this morning... so yeah, no equivalency, Trump worse as always
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:17:52 CNN reporter noting protests had been "mostly peaceful" but now breaching the capitol steps & some climbing the walls or something... so fair & balanced... the cultists "mostly peaceful" too
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:18:53 let me know if Fox calls them all just rioters
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:28:34 the traitor cultists have gotten inside...
jergul large member	Wed Jan 06 13:28:34 This is now a coup attempt. Someone elected or on staff let in demonstrators.
smart dude Member	Wed Jan 06 13:30:49 while terrorists are literally breaking into thr Capitol during a joint session, Trump tweets: "Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!" fuck
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:34:04 Mike Pence also didn't have legal authority to do that, but Trump gets his info from random people on Twitter & all sorts of crazy sources... only ever believing what he wants to believe... as he's a fucking delusional unfit piece of shit mentally-ill child fraud that some here will continue to find acceptable...
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 13:34:54 Haha, this is awesome.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:35:55 police were moving in from Independence Ave, so that's appropriate...
jergul large member	Wed Jan 06 13:36:13 Ruggy This is how the USSR ended.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 13:39:40 Jergul - Are you saying the Georgian SSR having a fraudulent election in 1990?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:41:55 "BREAKING: Tear gas inside the capitol dome. House members are being instructed to put on masks - Chad Pergram says a number of the security measures being used were installed after 9/11 - for terrorism threats." ~ Fox reporter
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:43:47 "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!" ~ Trump (or an adult doing it for him)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:45:41 i imagine Trump is thrilled with it, but maybe whatever propaganda outlet he's watching is not supporting it & criticizing him
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:47:18 reports of an armed stand-off at the House front door
sam adams Member	Wed Jan 06 13:48:11 The same democrats that supported 10,000 different blm riots all summer are now crying because a couple maga idiots chimped out. Hilariously hypocritical snowflakes.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 13:50:29 sam adams Member Wed Jan 06 13:48:11 "The same democrats that supported 10,000 different blm riots all summer are now crying because a couple maga idiots chimped out." Turning off troll mode for a second...this is the correct response.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 13:51:43 I bet less than half of the rallygoers who showed up are currently storming the Capitol. Does that make it a "mostly peaceful" event?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:53:28 i already noted CNN called them "mostly peaceful" (Wed Jan 06 13:17:52) so yes
jergul large member	Wed Jan 06 13:54:34 Sammy Elected officials or aids gave demonstrators access to disrupt the function of government. This is a coup attempt. Ruggy Tell us when you think Trump should declar martial law to restore order, mkay.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 13:56:32 twitter sampling: http://pbs...XcAAm8TL?format=jpg&name=small
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 13:57:11 Jergul It is clear that order cannot be restored until Congress does its job and denies certification of the fradulent election results. The best option for peace at this point would be for the army to conduct a Pride's Purge of Democratic legislstors and then allow the remaining rump of Congress to vote.
Seb Member	Wed Jan 06 13:59:35 Be suspected without evidence of spraying graffiti on a federal courts walls justifies snatch squads operated by unmarked federal goons and rubber bullets. March into the federal legislature with guns and point them into the senate chamber, nah, that's cool man. This is the kind of crap you see in a banana republic.
Seb Member	Wed Jan 06 14:00:11 No surprises that Rugian is a junta supporter.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 14:01:56 Seb Objectively not true. God Emperor Trump rules alone, not as part of some council.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 14:03:46 There's something greatly satisfying about seeing Confederate flags flying on the Capitol. Took 155 years, but we finally did it!
hood Member	Wed Jan 06 14:05:17 "I bet less than half of the rallygoers who showed up are currently storming the Capitol. Does that make it a "mostly peaceful" event?" Sure. but the select few blm rioters weren't storming the god damn capitol building trying to overturn an election. They just burned a few buildings, cars, stole some petty shit. Treasonous terrorism >>>>>>> theft and arson on the serious scale.
chuck Member	Wed Jan 06 14:05:39 > tumbleweed > This is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Words kind of fail to capture the craziness. > Rugian > Haha, this is awesome. I feel like you feel like you're trolling by facetiously saying outrageous shit but you've been doing it for so long now that you've internalized those beliefs and now you just say what you think in a weirdly smug tone. Anyway, I wish you have the courage to follow their convictions wherever they lead you in life.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:09:27 photo of House door w/ broken glass & barricaded w/ security ready to shoot invaders... http://pbs...UUAAyh0k?format=jpg&name=large
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Jan 06 14:12:08 ^I think Donald's work is done, mission accomplished, and better than anyone expected. Look at this fuckin banana republic, like a photo from some south american coup
hood Member	Wed Jan 06 14:14:08 How long does this go on before they are literally forced to call in real reinforcements? Trashing a random city without putting too many people in real danger != threatening an entire wing of government.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:14:21 there's also photo of a seditious cultist sitting in the head chair of the Senate floor so i guess security failed there (& maybe all senators dead... probably not...)
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 14:15:10 Protestors have taken the Senate chamber!
Seb Member	Wed Jan 06 14:15:43 CR: Unfortunately, double agents for Russia get meagre pensions.
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 14:17:30 I think Trump has sown his last potato now. Arrest him instigating the coup.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 14:19:19 THE MILITARY IS ON OUR SIDE! "BREAKING: A source tells me the Defense Department has just denied a request by DC officials to deploy the National Guard to the US Capitol"
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:22:47 'I have dissolved the Senate, regional governors will now have direct control' ~ emperor trump 'fear will keep people in line'
Dakyron Member	Wed Jan 06 14:22:55 Serious question, with COVID pandemic, what are the EU's asylum requirements? I mean, not sure how I would get there, maybe bribe some Mexican border guards and fly out of Tijuana?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:24:24 now there's video of the window smashing to get inside the capitol (on CNN)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:26:29 a woman has been shot in the chest... not sure if traitor or American
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:27:26 here's the enemy combatant on the Senate floor photo: http://pbs...gNKi?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Dakyron Member	Wed Jan 06 14:28:13 CNN now calling it a coup attempt.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 14:28:49 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErE0YqyXcAMgNKi?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 "I'm the captain now."
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:29:29 video of the outside window breaking & entering: http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346915809969528832
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 14:35:57 tw,Yes that was referencing the shitnin Seattle. As for my description I was just going by your video. DW tv is covering it like its a die hard movie...hahaha This whole thing is very entertaining. Cross the Rubicon, Burn the Reichstag, heads, spikes, wall!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:37:44 not sure if real or not, probably is: http://pbs...AAfNfr?format=jpg&name=900x900
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 14:39:53 The rebellion is spreading! "TOPEKA, Kan. (KSNT) – Protesters have moved into the Kansas Statehouse, KSNT News’ Capitol Bureau confirmed Wednesday afternoon." http://www...amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 14:42:27 It is a coup attempt. Trump has been instigating it for a long time. He refuses to accept that Biden won the election, claims that he won, and his people are now storming the Capitol. Arrest Trump, and all the other coupers.
Hrothgar Member	Wed Jan 06 14:42:48 "CNN now calling it a coup attempt." And they are right.
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 14:42:55 Shoot all of them!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:43:16 an embarrassment to the world a completely obvious moron fraud causing all this mayhem, we are now the dumbest nation on the planet...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:44:46 reportedly staff are asking Trump to put out stronger statements and tell his supporters to leave but he is refusing to do so... sounds exactly what you'd expect
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 06 14:47:34 One will have to surrender. Will it be Trump or Biden? If Trump wins he will need to throw Biden in jail.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:48:43 Trump whipped up their anger w/ lies & told them to come to DC then held a rally to whip up even more anger his strongest (& late-coming) tweet is to 'remain peaceful' as if they've been peaceful... no call to LEAVE he should be arrested immediately
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:51:32 via NY Times: " An explosive device was found at the headquarters of the Republican National Committee in Washington and the nearby headquarters of the Democratic National Committee was evacuated after the discovery of a suspicious package on Wednesday, according to three people briefed on the discoveries. The device that was found at the R.N.C. was a pipe bomb that was successfully destroyed by a bomb squad, according to an official for the R.N.C. The package at the D.N.C. has yet to be identified, according to a top Democrat briefed on the matter who was not authorized to speak publicly about it. "
Dakyron Member	Wed Jan 06 14:54:44 Congress needs to impeach that pile of shit and depose him immediately. Lockdown the capital building, have an emergency session and impeach him.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 14:57:28 Fox calling guy a "protester" who is sitting in Pelosi's office (& those inside Senate): http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1346923003226030082 Fox clearly the hypocrite on 'protester' vs 'rioter' unsurprisingly
chuck Member	Wed Jan 06 15:00:14 DC, MD, VA National Guards deploying. God willing, they're carrying live rounds.
hood Member	Wed Jan 06 15:00:50 rioter? terrorist.
Dakyron Member	Wed Jan 06 15:02:19 Pelosi and Schumer: "We are calling on President Trump to demand that all protestors leave the U.S. Capitol and Capitol Grounds immediately." Weak.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 15:07:20 actual president Biden has come out to speak... (& is not shouting made-up lies)
habebe Member	Wed Jan 06 15:09:42 We should just let it go for a few weeks and let nature take its course like in Seattle, right?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 15:16:08 remember when people sitting on a lawn got tear-gassed to make way for a photo op? meanwhile cultists break & enter into the Capitol & shut down congress one is worse
sam adams Member	Wed Jan 06 15:16:08 "But the select few blm rioters weren't storming the god damn capitol building trying to overturn an election." No, they just wanted to overturn our lawful and peaceful society. Same shit, different idiots. Maga=blm.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 15:19:12 presumably the shot woman: http://pbs...AAAX_6V?format=jpg&name=medium
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 15:23:17 Trump put out a video telling people "to go home now" but still saying election was stolen, fraudulent, taken away from them, yadda yadda lying.piece.of.shit.
CrownRoyal Member	Wed Jan 06 15:23:34 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384
sam adams Member	Wed Jan 06 15:27:27 http://pbs...MAEc_bU?format=jpg&name=medium He stole the podium of the US senate! Bahahahahahahahaha
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 15:38:33 at least he's respecting the rope barriers...
Dakyron Member	Wed Jan 06 15:39:53 Shot woman is laying on a Trump flag, so assuming she is an insurrectionist and traitor.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 15:42:30 Ilhan Ohmar is drawing up articles of impeachment... not the ideal messenger, but good for her he deserves a 2nd one on the record (or dozens really)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 15:50:07 seditious traitor admitting his crimes & giving his story of how the woman got shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1DsbDjbO0 not sure if she's dead, but what a waste of one's life if so... dying for a completely obvious fraud...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 16:09:19 police are pushing invaders out of the windows... (onto a balcony unfortunately rather than a large fatal drop)
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:10:07 Nightfall! We're in prime Antifa operating hours now.
kargen Member	Wed Jan 06 16:37:22 CNN reporter a few months ago standing in front of burning buildings says he is witnessing a mostly peaceful protest. CNN reporter today repeated the words rioters and riot repeatedly. THe last report I saw on CNN the reporter said the rioters have been asked to leave the stairs and are doing so voluntarily without being forced by the police. He then called them rioters again. Now the few people that broke into the capital building they are rioters and should be arrested. They probably will be arrested because unlike the peaceful protesters that were burning buildings these people didn't hide behind masks. A quick perspective on the differences in the riots and protests. When rioters supporting BLM broke into a building the looted and burned the building and beat any that opposed them. When rioters today broke into a building they broke a few doors and windows to gain access then took selfies.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 16:40:14 total misinformation CNN -DID- start by calling them "mostly peaceful" until it changed, i heard it all myself... EXACTLY the same as they did w/ the others also, there do NOT appear to be mass arrests going on as there should be (& Trump should be yelling for the 10 year minimum sentence that he claimed he put in place)
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:43:31 Kargen Well, its different now apparently since the Capitol is involved. As Hood said earlier in this thread, its no big deal when regular people have to deal with riots in their cities. But Pelosi and Schumer are not regular people; they are above having to deal with civil unrest. Fucking elitist mentality garbage. Riots are riots, and they don't only become serious when they happen in DC instead of Minneapolis.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 16:46:57 blm rioters weren't breaking into occupied buildings... damaging or stealing was the point Trump's cultists are seditious traitor terrorists who were sent there by the head traitor to disrupt Congress (& they did damage & steal too)
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:48:43 TW How quickly we forget (or maybe, in your case, never saw because CNN refused to cover it) http://www...all-demand-mayors-resignation/
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 16:48:49 i would hope the guy w/ podium was stopped... but i imagine Pelosi's pens may show up on eBay (including fake ones... kinda seems like a good idea actually...)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 06 16:51:31 "How quickly we forget" sounds like people peacefully entering through a door? so more comparable (& less severe) than the Trump gunmen who occupied the Michigan capitol building
hood Member	Wed Jan 06 16:53:46 "Well, its different now apparently since the Capitol is involved." Yes, it's different. Here it's called sedition and terrorism. In seattle, it was called arson and destruction of property. You do see the difference, do you not?
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:54:26 Because BLM wasn't a movement designed to effect political change?
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 06 16:55:46 Also, today isn't at all an example of terrorism.
sam adams Member	Wed Jan 06 16:57:17 The left be like : its only ok to riot when we do it
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