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habebe
Member
Thu Jan 07 18:06:17
PBS news hour tonight is comparing policing difference between

"The violent mob" and "the peacefull protesters for liberal justice"

Swear to the gods.
habebe
Member
Thu Jan 07 18:11:53
The actual difference?

The National guard was called in within hours against the Trumpers.

Chaz overthrew a sitting government. When Trump offered the use of NG troops Democrats said how horrible he was for suggesting putting down AN ACTUAL COUP.

An unarmed protestor was killed by police, and no outrage, because only black lives matter, she was white
Sam Adams
Member
Thu Jan 07 21:59:02
The liberal hypocrisy and lies coming out on this topic is so idiotic, wrong, and illogical... its pretty disturbing. People that dumb and illogical will blindly follow their leaders to war for retarded ideas.
Habebe
Member
Thu Jan 07 22:17:06
Those reference to the two different groups were exact quotes from Judy woodruff at the PBS Newshour, no hyperbole on my part.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jan 07 22:24:20
kinda matters what event she was talking about... i'll guess the gassing of "the peaceful protesters for liberal justice" for Trump's photo op


there is immense variation amongst all BLM protest events... from 100% peaceful to the burning/looting


...also Fox was calling the guy in Pelosi's office a "protester" (who stole & vandalized beyond breaking & entering) & also for the ones on the Senate floor
Habebe
Member
Thu Jan 07 22:36:04
Tw, How different is this from.a.traditional.sit in?
Habebe
Member
Thu Jan 07 22:37:04
Racial justice**_

Not liberal Justice.

My bad.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Jan 08 00:29:01
Nobody cares about Chaz or BLM. You're just a bunch of dumbfucks gaslighting like always which is why you can't pussy in the real world. Real people don't put up with that shit.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jan 08 00:35:10
"How different is this from.a.traditional.sit in"

extremely? they battled past barriers externally (yes, cops were weak in one area), they scaled walls, they bashed their way inside, they bashed through doors, they fought security, they stole items...

what the hell sit-ins are you watching?
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 00:44:04
TW,Do you realy beleive it was as bad as you are presenting it? deep down you know its not.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 00:45:36
Dukhat, Points for the liberal word of the season.

But apparently Judy Woodruff cares.That said she is a radical.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jan 08 01:01:34
do these people look like they were experiencing a typical sit-in?
http://pbs...VQAIXWwh?format=jpg&name=large
(those are 'escape hoods' they are holding)

do you think it was crazy for security to pull guns?

should the White House be allowed to be overrun w/ large angry mobs or just the Capitol Bldg (w/ every congressperson & VP inside)?
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 01:22:36
No, I dont think its crazy, that said I also think it would have been reasonable.to do the same when left wing protesters turned rioters too.

But calling this anyrhing than a protest that got.mildly out of hand is blowing it out of proportion.

Remember when Trump had to be evacuated because BLM was at the WH? True, they didnt get past police, but the group is known for violent riots.
jergul
large member
Fri Jan 08 01:30:45
habebe
Like daky said. What would have happened if the terrorists had captured the uncounted electoral votes?

You should be happy. You are not powerless. There are long shots that let you overthrow democratically elected governments.
Daemon
Member
Fri Jan 08 02:25:15
"Do you realy beleive it was as bad as you are presenting it? deep down you know its not."

Why believe if one can know?
http://twitter.com/PhilipinDC/status/1347028917685800961
Sam Adams
Member
Fri Jan 08 09:27:54
"Nobody cares about Chaz or BLM."

Cuckhat the retarded hypocrit trying to claim his sides rioters should be ignored.
hood
Member
Fri Jan 08 10:03:26
Weren't y'all making fun of CHAZ for weeks, saying it was a bunch of dirty hippies with nothing better to do? And didn't you laugh when they were running out of food and collapsed in on itself?

Yeah, storming the capitol == CHAZ. Totally.
Sam Adams
Member
Fri Jan 08 10:15:40
Disorganized lawlessness resulting in a few deaths with a certain fraction of the rioters intending to overthrow public order?

Chaz is indeed almost exactly the same as the capitol.
jergul
large member
Fri Jan 08 12:05:19
There are pictures of terrorists with dozens of plastic handcuffs. Why and what plan did they have for those?

Taking the uncounted electoral votes would have created a constitutional crisis that could have given Trump a 2nd term.

Guilliani seemed to have believed that even just delaying the count would have lead to Biden getting less than 270 votes.

There were paths for the coup to succeed.
Renzo Marquez
Member
Fri Jan 08 12:08:13
tumbleweed
the wanderer Fri Jan 08 01:01:34
"(those are 'escape hoods' they are holding)"

They need escape hoods because the govt gassed its own people. Please help us Mr Assad!
Rugian
Member
Fri Jan 08 12:10:11
Jergul

You do realize that there are six copies of each EC vote, right?

Even if something had happened to the copies being counted by Congress, there are backups.
jergul
large member
Fri Jan 08 12:10:28
RM
lol! That was funny.
Paramount
Member
Fri Jan 08 12:14:53
”There are pictures of terrorists with dozens of plastic handcuffs. Why and what plan did they have for those?”


They were obviously going to tie Mike Pence’s hands behind his back (and other members of Congress they could get hold on).

Not sure what they would have done after that, but maybe executing them, for failing to give Trump suffient support.
Paramount
Member
Fri Jan 08 12:17:27
I think they are called hose tie or zip tie.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 13:39:39
Chaz- Literally forced the Seattle police to flee.Removed them and replaced the local government for 3 weeks leading to an epic failure and murder.

Storming the capitol leads to broken windows, selfies and they went home within hours.

Neither is true Coup IMO. A true Coup IMO plans to install a nre government, kills/captures/exiles it's political opponents.

That may differ from a super technical coup definition, but super technical definitions are often silly and meant to infer something as worse than it is.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 13:44:50
http://youtu.be/8cUaUIfliLk

it's at about .50 in.

Comrade woodruffs comments I quoted
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jan 08 13:57:20
the police chose to abandon the building, it was not stormed w/ them fleeing out the back in fear

& Seattle's local gov't was not replaced

people hung around outside reading poetry, painting pictures, playing music & watching films for 3 weeks

a couple teens eventually got shot... as teens like to do in cities
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 15:57:05
Yes, the police chose to flee and board up the building, not sure whether makes a difference.

The local gov. was kicked out of the capitol.hill neighborhood and guards were posted around it to control who came in and out.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Jan 08 16:00:38
"That may differ from a super technical coup definition, but super technical definitions are often silly and meant to infer something as worse than it is."

I'll fix this for you.

"The actual definition of coup doesn't support my agenda in this case, so I'm throwing it out and substituting my own. Definitions are often dumb and wrong, at least when they can't be used to support my Trump fluffer agenda."
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 16:20:00
Not surprised that woo cant comprehend nuance.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 16:21:33
Not surprised that woo cant comprehend nuance.

Technically, Capitol Hill was no coup, no government was overthrown.

The democrats however did orchestrate a coup in chaz, but that somehow doesnt fit my narrative, right?

you really are the most useless poster on here.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 16:24:50
Or how about when antifa launching missiles at police officers? by a super technical.definitio thats true, but is misleading to compare it to say Iran firing missiles at US troops.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Jan 08 16:39:20
Says the person who freely admits to tossing out definitions when he sees fit and substituting his own. Hmm.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 16:59:12
Ok woo....good effort, just a little dim I guess.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 16:59:13
Ok woo....good effort, just a little dim I guess.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Jan 08 17:01:01
I'm simply pointing out that it's pretty retarded (and thus expected of you) to toss out definitions and substitute your own when it suits your needs. And even worse, in this case, it really doesn't even suit your needs. And that, more than anything, says a lot about your intelligence.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 18:00:20
Ok sport.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Jan 08 18:04:46
Glad you agree with me.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 08 18:10:10
Always happy to add you to your otherwise sad life, your welcome.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Jan 08 18:35:12
Shit, I wasn't aware I had a sad life. I'm glad you're here to let me know that. I'll look into it and get back to you.
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