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Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ
Wed Jan 13 22:18:55
As of now there twice as many American soldiers in Washington DC (20,000) than in Iraq (5,000-3,500) and Afghanistan (4,000-5,000).
habebe
Member
Wed Jan 13 22:43:40
Well, its good we are reducing troops in the ME.

Its bad that we need them in DC to keep the peace.
werewolf dictator
Member
Wed Jan 13 23:13:33
just trying to figure out cost

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[june] WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The deployment of thousands of National Guard troops in response to protests on the streets of Washington, endorsed by President Donald Trump and much criticized by the city’s mayor, cost the federal government $2.6 million per day at its peak, U.S. officials told Reuters.


At the peak, about 1,200 D.C. National Guard troops and 3,900 from other states were sent to the capital to back law enforcement during demonstrations that erupted over the death of George Floyd, a 46-year-old black man who died in Minneapolis police custody after being pinned beneath a white officer’s knee for nearly nine minutes.

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$2.6 million for 5100 troops is $509 per troop-day

assuming similar cost per troop-day.. 20k troops is around $10.2 million/day


[iirc.. iraq deployment cost was around $2500 per troop-day.. ~100 billion year for ~100k troops]
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Jan 13 23:15:02
some cultist National Guard member is probably the most likely assassin
werewolf dictator
Member
Wed Jan 13 23:48:56
is 20k enough..

consider that twitter alone banned 70k users at same time as trump.. presumably all "insurrectionists"

and what if some national guard are on side of "terrorists" as tw suggests..

¯\(°_o)/¯
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Thu Jan 14 00:14:10
how many flies will Pence need to attract to stop a bullet...

(the cultists threaten him more than Biden)
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Jan 14 00:28:05
parler..

Users
2.3 million (active)
as of December 2020[3]
15 million (total)
as of January 2021[4]


at 15 million radical right-wing terrorists who needed deplatforming.. maybe entire military needs deployment to dc.. if even that is enough
patom
Member
Thu Jan 14 09:02:02
I'll take 20K trained troops versus 20 million radical right wingers any day of the week. You just witnessed how well coordinated they were inside the Capital Building.

I have a feeling that if they attempt a repeat performance, nobody is going to be holding the doors open for them.
Dakyron
Member
Thu Jan 14 09:05:00
There should be 0 troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. And if Capitol Police had opened fire on the retards, there would be 0 troops in Washington.
jergul
large member
Thu Jan 14 09:21:30
The equivalency is misleading. Troops in DC are not getting their force multipliers. Their combat value as such is negligable.

But they can certainly keep order and deter civic disorder.
Y2A
Member
Thu Jan 14 20:02:10
MAGA terrorists are more dangerous these days than Islamic terrorists, so good.
kargen
Member
Thu Jan 14 22:31:03
"You just witnessed how well coordinated they were inside the Capital Building."

Which makes you think who ordered the capitol police to stand down and why did they continue to stand down when fellow officers were being injured.

No way that motley group of fuck-ups should have made their way into the capitol building. THey were essentially let in.
habebe
Member
Thu Jan 14 23:07:03
They caught the asshole who threw a fire extinguisher at cops.Trumpist.or.not, complete asshole.
Y2A
Member
Thu Jan 14 23:12:00
they haven't charged him with murder yet though.
habebe
Member
Thu Jan 14 23:59:57
y2a, Someone died from that?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Jan 15 00:00:07
"THey were essentially let in. "

so your news sources avoiding showing you all the combat w/ cops at entry points?
Paramount
Member
Fri Jan 15 02:40:25
” Its bad that we need them in DC to keep the peace.”

Maybe it is good for the radical left as the soldiers are there to cement the steal. Could this be the real military coup?
murder
Member
Fri Jan 15 07:35:35

"Its bad that we need them in DC to keep the peace."

We don't. We just need to round up all the nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists, white ragers, confederates, proud boys, 3%ers, boogaloos, angry incels, militia members, anarchists, mobsters, gang members, and foreign agents, and march them into a large BBQ pit.

Once the smoke clears, the air will be much cleaner.
murder
Member
Fri Jan 15 07:42:57

"No way that motley group of fuck-ups should have made their way into the capitol building."

But they were mostly white. People were beating cops without consequence because they were white. People get shot by cops pretty much every day for making a "menacing" move, taking a fighting stance, or holding a stick.

These cops literally risked getting lynched to avoid opening fire on an angry (mostly) white mob.

And you'll note that all it took was a single shot to settle them all the fuck down.

Y2A
Member
Fri Jan 15 17:26:37
habebe, according to early reports of the PO that died he died of a fire extinguisher to the head.
murder
Member
Fri Jan 15 18:56:04

Early reports are often erroneous. Also sometimes things get confused and people that hear things put 2 + 2 together and get 5.

It's possible. If one cop was beaned with an extinguisher, it's possible that another was too, but it's also possible that the cop that died died for other reasons.
Rugian
Member
Sat Jan 16 05:44:29
Murder cring racism when the DC rioters are being treated way more harshly than any participant of the BLM insurrection is hilarious.
Rugian
Member
Sat Jan 16 05:45:49
Also...I thought walls don't keep anyone out?

http://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1347312054290567168
murder
Member
Sat Jan 16 06:54:50

"Murder cring racism when the DC rioters are being treated way more harshly than any participant of the BLM insurrection is hilarious."

As my dad was fond of saying ... "You can play with the chain, but don't touch the monkey."

Burning cars and looting Target are not going to get the same response as trying to topple the US government and install a dictator.

Sorry.

murder
Member
Sat Jan 16 06:57:07

"Also...I thought walls don't keep anyone out?"

Does that look like an impenetrable barrier?

It doesn't have to keep people out. Just slow them down long enough to get a clean shot.

tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 17 00:27:02
guess the terror attacks

i'll go w/ MI, AZ, & GA
Dakyron
Member
Sun Jan 17 19:27:00
Unlikely here. Lots of fucktards but the state is notoriously harsh on criminals. Gov is also anti lockdown. So that helps.

I would absolutely turn in my neighbors if they were plotting anything
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Jan 17 20:54:45
"guess the terror attacks"

With the scrutiny this is receiving, I'd probably bet none prior to/during inauguration. Once things have calmed a bit after, though, is another story.

Rugian will certainly take that to mean the FBI is part of a giant conspiracy and the warnings were false flags, etc. He's sounding more and more like Fucking Retard every day.
jergul
large member
Mon Jan 18 05:05:41
At the very least, there is going to be an uptick in lone wolf domestic terrorism as "the steal" will become a stab in the back theory that explains everything from divorce to home foreclosure.
werewolf dictator
Member
Mon Jan 18 05:21:03
the stab in the back theory was that russia "hacked the election" and tampered with vote tallies in 2016 [66% of democrats polled believed this].. and russia had kompromat peepee tape and russia is behind every move of trump and #moscowmitc.. to nypost "disinformation" on hunter biden laptop that needs heavy handed social media censorship.. to likely culprit in turning heat off in fargo

this stab in the back theory led less to lone wolf attacks [such as sending trump ricin] and more to monolithic coordinated censorship sponsored by big tech and deep state and biden and msm
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