Utopia Talk / Politics / Trumps support remains stable

habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 05:09:31 2021 http://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1254457 Im not sure why some people seem surprised by this.
Y2A rank	Mon Jan 18 05:38:15 2021 the average net approval rating has decreased in the past few weeks: http://pro...-approval-ratings/?cid=rrpromo
habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 05:44:06 2021 I think immediately after the events he probably had a drop that probably bounced back to about regular. From my purely anecdotal evidence he is as popular as ever amongst his supporters, as hated as ever againsy his haters.
Wrath of Orion rank	Mon Jan 18 05:45:10 2021 Hopefully he'll be convicted in the Senate, barred from holding office ever again, and his family and business ruined.
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 06:04:36 2021 TW is of the opinion he has a deal with the devil...I guess those eventually end badly.
werewolf dictator rank	Mon Jan 18 06:48:37 2021 hopefully he'll be reelected in 2024.. and carved into mount rushmore 2028 then hopefully the first superintelligent artificial intelligence will be programmed to always ask itself "would trump think this is a good idea.. what would trump do".. would trump turn entire mass of earth into paperclips - NO.. benevolent ai solved then hopefully trump-von-neumann probes will be launched and come to dominate over every corner of virgo supercluster
Im better then you rank	Mon Jan 18 08:57:38 2021 I've got to admit he's doing a better job at keeping America safe from his own supporters.
jergul rank	Mon Jan 18 12:49:44 2021 Trump should get a noble peace prize for the federal government's work keeping Washington safe on inaguration day.
habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 13:44:28 2021 Smallest inaugural crowd ever, soon to come. Biden requested troops just to have a live crowd. Trump is the most admired man in the US.
jergul rank	Mon Jan 18 16:32:18 2021 Since you are being trolly. Hitler had been Time's man of the year already at this point in his career.
Dakyron rank	Mon Jan 18 16:51:54 2021 Trump is a failure as well as an asshole. Lost the election. Lost his coup bid. Backtracked and threw his conspirators under the bus. He needs to spend tomorrow pardoning all 10,000 people involved in the riot. I think Pelosi's head would explode if he did that.
patom rank	Mon Jan 18 16:56:56 2021 Pardon them for what? Until they are adjudicated and convicted, they are innocent per the Constitution of the USA. I don't believe any of them have been convicted, yet.
werewolf dictator rank	Mon Jan 18 17:17:35 2021 trump had perhaps the best temperament for president ever * didn't try to micro-manage subordinates.. and minds his own business on twitter and watching cable news * once trump thinks about issue and comes to his own conclusion then he is henceforth immune to peer pressure and groupthink to change his mind.. perfect independent thinking executive in a checks-and-balances system and in a world where "insanity is rare in individuals but the rule in groups" * optimistic and always looking to believe the best no wonder trump is so successful and free of manmade disasters
habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 17:20:24 2021 Tom, As I understand it, you dont need to be convicted, nor charged to pardon someone. Jergul, Not trolly, According to Gallup Trump was the most admired man in the US, Obama was 2nd.
Dakyron rank	Mon Jan 18 17:51:14 2021 "Pardon them for what? Until they are adjudicated and convicted, they are innocent per the Constitution of the USA. I don't believe any of them have been convicted, yet. " You can issue a pardon before you are even arrested. It just means you now cannot be punished for that particular crime. Pence could walk into the House, shoot Pelosi to death, and then have Trump pardon him before he is even arrested. It would be perfectly legal.
Paramount rank	Mon Jan 18 18:31:13 2021 It doesn't make sense to pardon someone for a crime he/she has not been convicted of yet. But if Trumps pardons the rioters and the coup makers, it would then mean that they acknowledge that they have committed a crime, and that the rioters and the coup plotters are on the wrong side of the law.
Paramount rank	Mon Jan 18 18:40:58 2021 *They would acknowledge that they have done something wrong. Do they want to do that? Haven’t they always said that they are right? That election was stolen.
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 18:50:28 2021 Paramount, Again, where US pardon law gets wierd and debated. First off, Trump won't pardon the rioters.Thats my beleif anyway. But being pardoned doesn't necessarily imply guilt. Now that is a debated topic, where thats probably the minoriry opinion.
hood rank	Mon Jan 18 18:58:54 2021 "Jergul, Not trolly, According to Gallup Trump was the most admired man in the US, Obama was 2nd." The interpretation of those poll results are clearly bullshit and you should feel bad for being too stupid to recognize it.
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 19:06:16 2021 You can twist the results anyway that pleases you. Trump had most people designate him as the most admired man in the US.Something like 18% IIRC (maybe 15%?)
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 19:11:07 2021 Overall, 18% of Americans name Trump, 15% name Obama, 6% Biden and 3% Fauci. http://new...chelle-obama-admired-2020.aspx
Nimatzo rank	Mon Jan 18 19:32:49 2021 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recency_bias
Nimatzo rank	Mon Jan 18 19:35:15 2021 Indicated, by by bot a single name that isn’t currently very much relevant. Not George Washington, not Einstein, not even Bruce Jenner.
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 19:36:54 2021 Nimatzo, This isnt of all time.This is done annually.
werewolf dictator rank	Mon Jan 18 19:46:20 2021 einstein is way overrated in public minds.. including according to einstein “The exaggerated esteem in which my lifework is held makes me very ill at ease. I feel compelled to think of myself as an involuntary swindler.”
Paramount rank	Mon Jan 18 19:47:44 2021 ”Most Admired Man The incumbent president is usually top of mind when Gallup asks Americans to name, without prompting, which man living anywhere in the world they admire most. In the 74 times Gallup has asked the open-ended most admired man question since 1946, the incumbent president has topped the list 60 times. Harry Truman (1946-1947 and 1950-1952), Lyndon Johnson (1967-1968), Richard Nixon (1973), Gerald Ford (1974-1975), Jimmy Carter (1980), George W. Bush (2008) and Trump (2017-2018) are the incumbent presidents who did not finish first in past years. When the sitting president is not the top choice, it is usually because he is unpopular politically. That was the case in 2017 and 2018 when Trump had 36% and 40% approval ratings, respectively, and finished second to Obama as most admired man. Even though Trump is similarly unpopular now -- 39% approve of his performance -- his dominant performance among Republicans, contrasted with Democrats splitting their choices among multiple public figures, pushes him to the top of the 2020 most admired man list.” This just means that Americans admire their President, whoever it is.
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 19:50:41 2021 Paramount, In general. I doubt Biden will ever top Obama though.
hood rank	Mon Jan 18 19:55:11 2021 "You can twist the results anyway that pleases you." No need. The entire poll can and should be discarded for being of shitty design vs. the claim it is making. Asking for #1 and 2 choices severely limits the range of answers and leads to precisely what nim and mountme have brought up.
Y2A rank	Mon Jan 18 19:56:25 2021 15% + 6% = 21% > 18%
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 20:09:17 2021 Nim brought up a bias towards whats recently happened.Which is a good part why the current potus is usually the most admired. It does not explain Bidens 1/3 support compared to Trump.But whatever. By next year Trump will likely slide down.But as of when this poll was taken, if its results are accurate, due to large Republican support he was the most admired man in the US.
hood rank	Mon Jan 18 20:30:18 2021 "It does not explain Bidens 1/3 support compared to Trump" Who cares, though?
Nimatzo rank	Mon Jan 18 21:02:37 2021 It make perfect sense, even intuitively. The two first are the latest presidents, third place is the former VP and future president elect.
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 18 21:14:34 2021 Nimatzo, Its more than though.Biden will never be as popular as Obama. Obama is like thr Democrats Reagan.
Dakyron rank	Mon Jan 18 21:18:10 2021 Reagan was more popular with democrats than Obama was with Republicans. And its not close. Reagan was beloved in his time. Obama was hated by the right, mostly because of Obamacare and his being black.
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