Utopia Talk / Politics / The inauguration

Paramount Member	Tue Jan 19 11:27:24 10:35 a.m. Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias. No plot against Biden was found. The Army official and the intelligence official spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity due to Defense Department media regulations. They did not say what fringe group the Guard members belonged to or what unit they served in. Contacted by the AP on Tuesday, the National Guard Bureau referred questions to the U.S. Secret Service and said, “Due to operational security, we do not discuss the process nor the outcome of the vetting process for military members supporting the inauguration.” The Secret Service told the AP on Monday it would not comment on if any National Guard members had been pulled from securing the inauguration for operational security reasons. http://apn...d78184ec204e0a775e0f38496ff67b But what about ANTIFA? Why don’t they remove antifa members also.
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 19 11:29:37 Anyhoo... the inauguration should be safe now? Or do you think something will happen? Are there more militia members that they haven’t found yet?
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 19 16:51:39 So, Secret Service has removed 12 people from the National Guard now. The reason is that they have written inappropriate things online. Looks like the purge has begun now?
Average Ameriacn Member	Tue Jan 19 16:57:18 Chinese Antifas will make a false flag attack and blame us patriots.
chuck Member	Tue Jan 19 16:58:44 > The Army official and the intelligence official spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity due to Defense Department media regulations. I wonder if the regulations say, "don't share operational information with the press" or if they say, "share whatever you want willy nilly, just be sure to do it anonymously."
Y2A Member	Tue Jan 19 17:01:28 Biden will start his first day in office by inviting over Radicals to DC: http://www...n-inauguration-parade-1115838/
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 19 19:37:02 Our final day as a free country :( For one last hurrah, I will be blasting this at full volume tonight as I consume unprecedented amounts of liquor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcEc8zeNYxI We have reached the end of a glorious and lulzy era. RIP America
werewolf dictator Member	Tue Jan 19 19:50:26 "So, Secret Service has removed 12 people from the National Guard now. The reason is that they have written inappropriate things online." "Looks like the purge has begun now?" leftist purge of military sounds like stalin or sandinista or chavez/madura stuff rename it to "people's revolutionary bidenista national guard" already
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jan 19 19:55:06 The connection between pop culture icons and this is going to be vomit inducing. Then they will privately whine when biden hikes their taxes.
werewolf dictator Member	Tue Jan 19 19:56:27 maybe biden will bring in cubans as trainers and maybe murder can be made general and live out his ashli babbitt execution squad fantasies
Wrath of Orion Member	Tue Jan 19 19:59:10 "as I consume unprecedented amounts of liquor" Don't drink yourself to death. That'd be a real shame.
habebe Member	Tue Jan 19 20:20:23 So, no plot against Biden was uncovered....still.set.to be the least watched inauguration in modern history...yawn.....Wish Trump had an entertaining event going on...
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 20 06:54:30 [habebe ]: "set.to be the least watched inauguration in modern history..." Speaking of which, the Biden team concocted a clever propaganda strategy! Given the Trump inauguration coverage, leading into tomorrow, DNC media found themselves in yet another situation where their partisan double standards and hypocrisies would expose themselves. They had two main options: • Option 1 -> Try to get a huge real-life crowd to beat Trump's numbers. Hypocrisy of Option 2 -> People have been calling out DNC media for excusing BLM riots and even claiming that BLM riots *reduced* the spread of COVID (e.g., "Black Lives Matter protests may have slowed overall spread of coronavirus in Denver and other cities, new study finds"; The Colorado Sun; June 30th, 2020; http://col...e-protests-coronavirus-spread/ ). If the DNC put together a huge group for the inauguration, this hypocrisy would reach new heights, with the DNC admitting that they knew all along that crowds could be together safely under controlled circumstances and that their COVID policies were not rational. • Option 2 -> Say that small crowd sizes at the Biden inauguration were unfair to compare to real life crowd sizes of the past because so many people had chosen to watch online. Hypocrisy of Option 2 -> Trump made this same claim in 2016, and DNC media mocked it, dismissed it, and added it to a list of claimed lies and misstatements. If they were to make the same claim in 2021, their hypocrisy would be on full display. But, they found an alternate option: • Pretend that people attended "symbolically" by placing about 200,000 little flags on the National Mall ( http://people.com/politics/what-to-know-about-the-flags-at-joe-bidens-inauguration/ ) Perfect! Now they only need 400,000 more attendees to exceed upper estimates of Trump's 600,000-person crowd. And it just so happens... Last night (Tuesday, January 19), inauguration festivities included a Reflecting Pool memorial for the now 400,000 Americans who have died of COVID. Jill and Joe Biden stood behind bullet-proof glass while Harris and Emhoff stood off to the side ( http://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/01/19/958449203/400-lights-for-400-000-dead-to-illuminate-lincoln-memorial-reflecting-pool ). Very moving! The prole memes have been congratulating the dignified presidential action already (e.g., http://imgur.com/gallery/JElhaDq ). CNN even posted the headline "At last, a nation mourns" ( http://imgur.com/gallery/Zijrht2 ), before they realized that there had actually been several COVID milestone ceremonies before this and that CNN was maybe being too obvious about their distorted version of reality wherein things like mourning can only take place without Trump (thus, CNN changed the article headline to, "Joe Biden grieves Covid victims on eve of his inauguration: 'To heal, we must remember'" http://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/biden-covid-victims-memorial/index.html ). But, as part of a well-timed inauguration event, it fits the narrative propagated by DNC media and reflected in the l0w-level meme discourse: that every U.S. COVID death was due to Trump. This is, of course, irrational, since anyone can see that the U.S. is not the only country losing scores of people to COVID, but the memes do not really ask for a percentage of responsibility. Luckily, for m3dium-level discourse followers, an article from August has been circulating to cast a more numeric blame ("Nationwide Mask Mandate in April Would Likely Have Saved Nearly 40,000 American Lives, Study Finds" http://www.newsweek.com/nationwide-mask-mandate-april-would-likely-have-saved-nearly-40000-american-lives-study-finds-1523039 ). The article made the front page of Reddit, but the headline cast the information as a total percentage that could have been saved. So, in the propaganda message, on the even of his inauguration, Biden symbolically mourns for the Americans that Trump has killed with COVID, and we equally see that all of these people surely would have been alive and present at Biden's inauguration in great numbers had Trump not killed them. :'( In that line, we see Biden standing over the graves of the dead, having them speak for Biden’s message — the dead and voiceless used as his political props. All of these people attending his inauguration when many likely would not have made such a decision. Alas, it is simply not possible to delay such a photo op for times not directly related to the inauguration (those 400,000 could not wait!), so it must be an acceptable misgiving that DNC vanity has been surgically attached to the mere appearance of reverence in the same vein as social media manipulators taking selfie videos while giving food to the exploited poor. :'( This further cements the DNC media strategy: DNC figures had their fair share of blame in creating many of these dead in order to diminish Trump's successes in the election. Many admitted to this strategy through the denial of relief measures and the science-denying measures that were employed to stop businesses from opening. They wanted economic ruin and death for a win, and on these graves they can say, "Thank you," and shed a tear: "I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have [watched them die to secure this presidency]."
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 20 06:59:58 *"on the [eve] of his inauguration"
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jan 20 19:05:53 Antifa riots are occuring in portland and denver. One is planned for seattle.
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jan 20 21:21:00 Blm/antifa are now rioting in seatte and Sacramento too.
hood Member	Wed Jan 20 23:12:03 Option 3: who gives a shit how many people attended the inauguration?
Y2A Member	Wed Jan 20 23:30:12 Sam Adams: http://i.redd.it/oq7f3qezng351.jpg
obaminated Member	Thu Jan 21 00:33:38 yeah, antifa doesnt exist. just a group of unconnected people with identical political beliefs whom dress the same and react violently when faced with opposing views. good job y2a.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Jan 21 06:25:04 It's funny that people don't think they exist as an organization. There has been significant coverage from Portland journalists in particular about how Antifa has been practicing their mob tactics for years — even before Trump. They even have nodes on Twitter, so it's not exactly a secret. .. [hood]: "Option 3: who gives a shit how many people attended the inauguration?" I certainly don't, but DNC media was super interested. Trump's inauguration was a major launching point for their misinformation campaigns. They started by under-reporting his crowd size, which caused Trump's vanity to use available statistics to put Sean Spicer in front of the press core with more accurate numbers; but then DNC media did additional research, coming up with still more accurate/complete numbers, which caused Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts" explanation, which, in context, meant that the White House research did not have the metro ridership data that had been researched after their statements, but DNC misinformation campaigns gladly misinterpreted the statement to start off the Trump presidency with a commitment to willful misinterpretation and misinformation. It is only fitting that they would apply similar propaganda to the Biden presidency, because why would the corrupt waste that power?
jergul large member	Thu Jan 21 06:43:24 CC Follow the money. What is antifas bank account number? Its just a blanket term for a large number of smaller associations. Antifa is as much an organization as "alt right" Trump and you care about attendance numbers. Biden thinks it should be as low as possible in a pandemic.
jergul large member	Thu Jan 21 06:44:57 The only popularity contest that sometimes counts is the popular vote. That Trump lost, twice.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Jan 21 07:10:31 [Jergul]: "That Trump lost, twice." Keep saying memes, Jergul; it really makes it look like you have well-developed arguments and an intelligence of your own ;) .. [Jergul]: "Trump and you care about attendance numbers." Asked and answered. Your sentence offers nothing and is merely further proof of your trollish motivations. .. [jergul]: "Its just a blanket term for a large number of smaller associations." You're describing an organization in cells. If you do not understand cellular organizations, then do us a favor and shut the fuck up.
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 21 07:18:07 "but DNC media was super interested. Trump's inauguration was a major launching point for their misinformation campaigns. They started by under-reporting his crowd size," That is not true. The Trump campaign started their misinformation campaign by saying that there was hundreds of thousands of people, even millions of people at Trump's inauguration. When everyone else pointed out that there wasn't that many, they said "it was more than at Obama's inauguration!!!" ... People then pointed out that that wasn't true either, by comparing actual photos. For the Trump campaign it was very important how many people watched Trump. No one else really cared if there was 1,000 or 10,000. Just don't lie about it. The lies was what got people riled up against Trump. And then it only got worse when that Kellyanne Conway woman explained that what they had was "alternative facts".
delude Member	Thu Jan 21 07:28:24 "I certainly don't, but DNC media was super interested. Trump's inauguration was a major launching point for their misinformation campaigns. They started by under-reporting his crowd size, which caused Trump's vanity to use available statistics to put Sean Spicer in front of the press core with more accurate numbers; but then DNC media did additional research, coming up with still more accurate/complete numbers, which caused Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts" explanation, which, in context, meant that the White House research did not have the metro ridership data that had been researched after their statements, but DNC misinformation campaigns gladly misinterpreted the statement to start off the Trump presidency with a commitment to willful misinterpretation and misinformation. It is only fitting that they would apply similar propaganda to the Biden presidency, because why would the corrupt waste that power?" Or, that Trump before the event touted how his inauguration will be the the biggest ever attended or witnessed. Because his ego is all he has due to his small hands. Thus, making it a focal point for media to observe and report it and seeing that it wasn't all that it was built up to be by Trump and his fan club, causing him to have toddler rage and send out little old spice in his first press briefing to again make that a point of contention. Hey, let's be careful with the whole "alternative facts", because, we don't want to invoke that terminology again so you can find some dumb excuse to justify it's usage due to your unbelievable devotion to trump.
jergul large member	Thu Jan 21 07:55:42 CC Not my fault that refuting your points can be done in meme format. Antifa is as much a national or global conspiracy as Altright. Both are just blanket terms we use to describe a large number of formal and informal associations. You are coming across as crazy, cat lady.
Wrath of Orion Member	Thu Jan 21 09:19:06 Crazy retards usually come across as crazy. No surprise there.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 21 09:58:40 Y2a is like: "it wasnt on msnbc so it didnt happen"
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Jan 21 10:20:50 Jergul How does the meme refute what CC said? Just because a movement isn't organized like the Republican party or national rifle association, it isn't organized? What are the definitions and what do you guys mean with "Antifa" as an organization?
jergul large member	Thu Jan 21 10:36:41 Nimi Its just a blanket term we use to cover all kinds of stuff we imagine stand in opposition to Altright Which in turn is a blanket term we use to cover all kinds of stuff we imagine stand in opposition to Antifa. The question you asked is better addressed to those that believe Antifa, or the Altright are organizations. CT nuttery in other words. We might as well talk about the Illuminati and The Elders of Zion as organizations.
werewolf dictator Member	Thu Jan 21 10:47:47 please.. antifa rioted in multiple cities yesterday all coordinated they chanted "antifa antifa" and in one case carried huge antifa flag
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 21 11:05:57 ” they chanted "antifa antifa" Are you sure? I have never heard that members of Antifa chants their own name. Antifa are usually queit. They expose nazis, and when they feel it is neccessary they use violence, for an example to beat nazis. But I have never heard that Antifa chant ”Antifa antifa”. lol
jergul large member	Thu Jan 21 11:09:05 That is probably ALTRIGHT ORGANIZATION provacateurs Para. I suspect THE ILLUMINATI is somehow behind it all.
werewolf dictator Member	Thu Jan 21 11:11:06 some of the ads put out days in advance for yesterdays organized multicity riots http://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1351120439918125058
werewolf dictator Member	Thu Jan 21 11:12:31 chanting "antifa" http://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1352066724460429314
werewolf dictator Member	Thu Jan 21 11:20:35 ^actually flag this should be chanting http://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1352176800584110080 [idk why copying twitter links to clipboard is so quirky for me]
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 21 11:21:28 ” some of the ads put out days in advance for yesterdays organized multicity riots http://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1351120439918125058 ” ^. That is not how Antifa works. They don’t advertise their actions.
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 21 11:23:33 ” In case it’s not clear who are leading the riots today.” ^ I don’t see any riots in that video. Just some people walking on a road.
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 21 11:24:54 Maybe Antifa is different in the US
jergul large member	Thu Jan 21 11:28:16 Para Its not different. All you are seeing is angry white men and women subcritically failing at life looking for a conspiracies to explain why things have gone so poorly for them.
jergul large member	Thu Jan 21 11:29:34 Not their fault. We are hardwired for pattern recognition so we can find berries and shit. They are just using evolution wrong.
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 21 11:37:40 If Antifa are planning to go out and beat nazis and fascists, they don’t advertise it beforehand. Antifa are usually not welcome to particapte in ordinary left-wing or socialist protests/demonstrations, because Antifa-members usually use violence and starts riots. Antifa is just a small group of people who don’t organize demonstrations or take part in demonstrations. Instead, they show up at other people’s demonstrations if they believe that there are going to be fascist and nazi counter demonstrators there. Or they show up at nazi and fascist demonstrations to counter them.
werewolf dictator Member	Thu Jan 21 11:40:10 daily mail video http://www...-Seattle-protesting-Biden.html "Video: 'We don't want Biden. We want revenge for police murders, imperialist wars, and fascist massacres': Antifa mob smash up Portland's Democratic Party HQ, burn US flags in Denver and run riot in Seattle in protest at Biden presidency "ANTIFA vandalized the original Starbucks in Seattle while protesting Joe Biden's inauguration."
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 21 11:45:24 Andy ngo is far and away the worlds best journalist. Thats not saying much these days though.
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 21 11:51:09 ” ANTIFA vandalized the original Starbucks in Seattle” Well, that is also something Antifa typically would do. Vandalize stores and businesses.
Rugian Member	Thu Jan 21 11:53:47 Stores and businesses are unimportant. Who cares if some businesses are trashed? That only affects ordinary people, not anyone of consequence. A guy in a Viking helmet chilling out in the Senate for an hour though? ATTACK ON OUR COUNTRY COMPARABLE TO 9/11
delude Member	Thu Jan 21 12:09:39 Exactly. 9/11 was blown waaaay out of proportion.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 21 12:20:00 I especially like how panty-fa and blm are trying to get andy ngos book banned. Because nothing says "we oppose fascism" like "lets ban books". Its currently #5 on amazons best sellers this week. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Habebe Member	Thu Jan 21 12:22:19 What's gets me is all these people saying " Cpuld you imagine if this was colored people! They would have flayed them in the street" When we have CHAZ to see what would happen if it was POC. One sent the bar. Guard within hours, one was weeks. One is being prosecuted to the full extent, the other were released almost as soon as they were arrested. Clearly you get more favorable treatment for political riots of your colored and left wing.
Habebe Member	Thu Jan 21 12:23:12 Sam, He is probably an Asian supremacist...hahaha
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 21 12:27:15 Asian success is a symbol of white supremacy i'm sure.
Renzo Marquez Member	Thu Jan 21 14:01:06 Andy Ngo is a fag. Get Scott Horton's book instead.
Habebe Member	Thu Jan 21 14:31:06 He heard a who.
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