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Rugian
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Tue Jan 19 11:45:13
Clinton, Pelosi call for ‘9/11-style commission’ into Capitol riot, Putin’s role

By Emily JacobsJanuary 19, 2021 | 10:33am | Updated

There is “strong support in the Congress” for establishing a “9/11-style commission” to investigate President Trump‘s ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russia’s involvement in the Capitol riot, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi revealed to Hillary Clinton.

In an interview on Clinton’s podcast “You and Me Both” released Monday, Pelosi (D-Calif.) made the revelation after the 2016 Democratic presidential candidate discussed her concerns that the outgoing commander-in-chief was compromised by the Kremlin.

"We learned a lot about our system of government over the last four years with a president who disdains democracy and — as you have said numerous times — has other agendas,” Clinton began. “What they all are, I don’t think we yet know. I hope historically we will find out who he’s beholden to, who pulls his strings.”

The former secretary of state then got specific, questioning whether he spoke to Putin on the day of the riots.

“I would love to see his phone records to see whether he was talking to Putin the day that the insurgents invaded our Capitol,” she continued, adding, “We now know that — not just him, but his enablers, his accomplices, his cult members — have the same disregard for democracy.”

Asked by Clinton whether the nation needs “a 9/11-type commission to investigate and report everything that they can pull together,” Pelosi replied, “I do.”

“As I said to him in that picture with my blue suit as I was leaving, what I was saying to him as I was pointing, rudely, at him, ‘With you, Mr. President, all roads lead to Putin,'” the top House Democrat said at the outset of her reply, going on to say she does not know “what Putin has on him politically, financially or personally, but what happened last week was a gift to Putin, because Putin wants to undermine democracy in our country and throughout the world.”

The picture she was referring to was a viral photo of Pelosi standing and pointing at Trump as they appear to be arguing. During the October 2019 Oval Office meeting, she and Trump sparred about his troop withdrawal from Syria, when Pelosi asked him why all roads led back to Putin.

The picture she was referring to was a viral photo of Pelosi standing and pointing at Trump as they appear to be arguing. During the October 2019 Oval Office meeting, she and Trump sparred about his troop withdrawal from Syria, when Pelosi asked him why all roads led back to Putin.

“I also pointed out to the president I had concerns that all roads seemed to lead to Putin. The Russians have been trying to get a hold in the Middle East unsuccessfully and now the president has given them an opportunity with the Kurds reaching out to them for support in Syria,” she told reporters at a Capitol Hill press conference at the time.

“And these people, unbeknownst to them, they are Putin puppets. They were doing Putin’s business when they did that at the incitement of an insurrection by the president of the United States, so yes, we should have a 9/11 commission and there is strong support in the Congress for that,” the speaker told Clinton.

“So we are not waiting for the commission, but the commission will have a bigger agenda. And we will get to the bottom of what complicity members of Congress have in all of this. And, if they did, they should be prosecuted, as well as others.”

http://nyp...apitol-riot-putin-involvement/
Rugian
Member
Tue Jan 19 11:47:03
This self-absorbed sow needs to realize that no one outside the Beltway thinks the Capitol riot is anywhere near the same scale as 9/11.

Boo hoo, someone stole your podium. Get over it.

Also, she should be thrown off social media for espousing discredited conspiracy theories.
werewolf dictator
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Tue Jan 19 12:04:42
Glenn Greenwald
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After the break: we'll discuss with our all-FBI panel whether more censorship power is needed to prevent conspiracy theories and disinformation from spreading.

And then, our all-CIA panel asks: did Putin use a pee-pee tape to control the US, and did he order the Capitol riot??
Habebe
Member
Tue Jan 19 12:28:21
Clinton is crazier than Trump.

The Queen of conspiracy theories.
Paramount
Member
Tue Jan 19 12:36:00
This will only lead to a deeper division. Exactly what Putin wants. Is he playing chess with y’all? Maybe Pelosi and Hillary are two of his pawns?
jergul
large member
Tue Jan 19 12:49:06
habebe
Nice conspiracy theory.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 19 13:05:42
it could just be related to his vast quantity of mental illnesses, but it -would- be nice to figure out his weird devotion to Putin/Russia

i recommend Trump be institutionalized & studied until all of his behaviors are fully understood
www.yeswecansong.com
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Tue Jan 19 13:12:27
http://www...ley-pennsylvania-20210119.html

Harrisburg woman accused of stealing Nancy Pelosi’s laptop arrested overnight in Pennsylvania


Williams’ former romantic partner told the FBI that she had taken the computer from a conference room in Pelosi’s office, intending to sell it to the Russian security services through a friend she knew in that country, according to Williams’ arrest affidavit. The transaction fell through, Williams’ ex said, and it is believed she still had the laptop in her possession or had destroyed it.
Habebe
Member
Tue Jan 19 14:34:51
Jergul, How much do you know about HRC?
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Jan 19 15:35:06
" it -would- be nice to figure out his weird devotion to Putin/Russia"

the daily beast

Henry Kissinger Pushed Trump to Work With Russia to Box In China

Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian
Andrew Desiderio
Sam Stein
Asawin Suebsaeng
Updated Jul. 31, 2018 4:54PM ET
Published Jul. 25, 2018 9:21PM ET


Henry Kissinger suggested to President Donald Trump that the United States should work with Russia to contain a rising China.

The former secretary of state—who famously engineered the tactic of establishing diplomatic relations with China in order to isolate the Soviet Union—pitched almost the inverse of that idea to Trump during a series of private meetings during the presidential transition, five people familiar with the matter told The Daily Beast. The potential strategy would use closer relations with Russia, along with other countries in the region, to box in China’s growing power and influence.

_____

evidence of peepee tapes of kissinger

werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Jan 19 15:42:07
after collapse of communism in russia many conservatives wanted to pack up bags and go home.. paleocons especially [who also mixed with branches of libertarian party] thought it dumb to fight cold war against godless communists after godless communists are gone.. not coincidentally these paleocons tended to be among few who opposed iraq war too

other schools of foreign policy wanted to try to dominate entire world including pressing russia into box.. this became the borg consensus of today

trump mixed with paleocon-libertarians long before he was arguing obama was born in kenya.. this is where he gets ideas of better relations with russia
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Jan 19 17:43:54
"Henry Kissinger...
...during a series of private meetings during the presidential transition"

doesn't explain it... he was Putin's boyfriend before the election

also i can't imagine him being able to pay attention to Henry Kissinger speaking

plus he didn't do anything w/ anyone to contain China
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Jan 19 17:59:33
it is reform party 2000 run when trump takes political questions seriously.. rubbing shoulders with paleocons and libertarians

i mention kissinger just to show that wanting friendly relations with the godless-less nuclear superpower russians is the logical realpolitik move.. and not bewilderingly irrational in absence of peepee tapes
Renzo Marquez
Member
Tue Jan 19 18:31:01
HEIL PUTLER
Renzo Marquez
Member
Tue Jan 19 18:31:59
tumbleweed
the wanderer Tue Jan 19 13:05:42
" it -would- be nice to figure out his weird devotion to Putin/Russia"

This retarded shit again? You still won't address all the anti-Russia actions Trump took.
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Jan 19 18:52:45
"trump" is very antirussian in sanctions and arming ukraine

but he has little ability to do otherwise given.. [1] existence of borg national security consensus that convinces itself of its own war propaganda that nato expansion was justified and nonthreatening and biden/nuland/pyatt weren't largely responsible for what happens in ukraine.. and [2] mudslinging that trump is putin's puppet for some mysterious peepee tape reasons
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Jan 19 20:29:52
A Russian meets up with an American.

"We have freedom of speech," the Russian says. "I can post that Russian elections are falsified on social media."

"What's the big deal?" asks the American. "I too can write that Russian elections are falsified on social media."
murder
Member
Tue Jan 19 23:09:21

"Also, she should be thrown off social media for espousing discredited conspiracy theories."

Too bad Trump and Barr won't be able to interfere with the investigation anymore, huh? :o)

delude
Member
Wed Jan 20 00:00:17
"You still won't address all the anti-Russia actions Trump took."

LOL!
werewolf dictator
Member
Wed Jan 20 01:50:45
german bloggish website compilation of recent headlines involving trump and russia

http://www...how-trump-appeased-russia.html

U.S. to withdraw from nuclear arms control treaty with Russia, raising fears of a new arms race - Washington Post, Feb 1 2019

Putin says U.S.-Russia relations are getting 'worse and worse' - Reuters, Jun 13 2019

Green Berets train Polish, Latvian resistance units in West Virginia - Army Times, Jul 8 2019

Trump Adds to Sanctions on Russia Over Skripals - NYT, Aug 1 2019

INF nuclear treaty: US pulls out of Cold War-era pact with Russia - BBC, Aug 2 2019

US Slaps New Sanctions on Russia for 2018 Nerve Agent Attack - Daily Signal, Aug 2 2019

1000 U.S.Troops Are Headed to Poland - National Interest, Sep 29 2019

U.S. sanctions Russians over attempted interference in 2018 elections - CBS News, Sep 30 2019

US formally withdraws from Open Skies Treaty that bolstered European security - CNN, Nov 22 2020

Nord Stream 2: Trump approves sanctions on Russia gas pipeline - BBC, Dec 21 2019

Trump sanctions Rosneft, Russia's largest oil company, for aiding Maduro in Venezuela - MSN, Feb 19 2020

Russia Says New U.S. Weapon Threatens Nuclear War - Newsweek, Mar 7 2020

Trump Continues to Be Exceedingly Tough on Russia - Townhall, Jul 25 2020

U.S.-Russia Military Tensions Intensify in the Air and on the Ground Worldwide - NYT, Sep 1 2020

White House rejects Putin’s proposal to extend last U.S.-Russia nuclear arms treaty - LA Times, Oct 16 2020

U.S., Russian Navies Involved In Brief Confrontation At Sea - NPR, Nov 24 2020

US sanctions NATO ally Turkey over Russian missile defense - AP, Dec 14 2020

Pompeo accuses Russia of sowing 'chaos' in the Mediterranean - Rawstory, Dec 15 2020

Exclusive: U.S. preparing new sanctions to impede Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline - Reuters, Dec 23 2020
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