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habebe
Member
Thu Jan 28 09:35:29
The mainstream media apparently wont keep track.Im sure some site somewhere will keep track, any links?

Its hard to claom Trump lied more than any potus when they don't count then others.
chuck
Member
Thu Jan 28 09:43:53
Feel free to do it yourself.
jergul
large member
Thu Jan 28 09:55:15
I don't think the workload will kill you.
Rugian
Member
Thu Jan 28 10:02:03
jergul
large member Thu Jan 28 09:55:15
"I don't think the workload will kill you."

"Politicians don't lie" -jergul
Rugian
Member
Thu Jan 28 10:17:36
"Some of my Republican friends and some of my Democratic friends even occasionally say, "Well, if you can't get the votes by executive order, you're going to do something." Things you can't do by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus."

http://abc...bc-news-town/story?id=73643517

-Joe Biden, October 15, 2020

"The Verify team looked through a pair of databases that track presidential executive orders. They showed that President Biden issued 22 executive orders in his first week, along with many presidential proclamations and memorandums.

This compares to four executive orders issued in President Trump's first week, five by President Obama, and zero by President George W. Bush."

Fucking liar.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Thu Jan 28 10:25:05
Aww muffin, that butthurt is still pretty strong, eh?
Rugian
Member
Thu Jan 28 10:27:08
Talk to me about butthurt when I have a 60-thread series devoted to the president.
chuck
Member
Thu Jan 28 13:31:37
60 threads < life
Hrothgar
Member
Thu Jan 28 22:38:13
This is what happens when your nations becomes so conspiracy theory stupid that congress can't pass any intelligent laws or national direction. Presidents start ruling by shallow and reversible executive orders.

Trumps entire presidency was rule by executive order. What do you think would happen when someone else took over? All that garbage is reversible with the flip of a pen.

Biden will see the same thing happen to the next Republican president unless he can get congress to do it's job and put some of these orders into law.
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:11:57
eo/yr

974 46 Joe Biden
307.8 32 Franklin D. Roosevelt
242 31 Herbert Hoover
225.4 28 Woodrow Wilson
216.9 29 Warren G. Harding
215.2 30 Calvin Coolidge
181 27 William Howard Taft
144.7 26 Theodore Roosevelt
116.7 33 Harry S. Truman
80 39 Jimmy Carter
75.4 35 John F. Kennedy
69.1 38 Gerald Ford
62.9 36 Lyndon B. Johnson
62.3 37 Richard Nixon
60.5 34 Dwight D. Eisenhower
55 45 Donald Trump
47.6 40 Ronald Reagan
45.5 42 Bill Clinton
41.5 41 George H. W. Bush
40.9 25 William McKinley
36.4 43 George W. Bush
habebe
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:18:04
Its not merely the number of EO's.

The extent of what is done with the m.This rupe by EO started under Obama who initially claimed to dislike use of EO in lieu of congress, but he couldnt get much passed so he said fuck it, figuring HRC would succeed him.
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:23:25
President Biden
@POTUS
·
Jan 27

US government account
This afternoon, I’ll be taking action to meet the climate crisis with the urgency it demands. Tune in.

_____


only climate crisis i see is the one that has killed 1,000,000 americans via cold weather over the last decade.. and i don't see biden doing anything to address it.. quite the reverse actually

at least if he's going to be retarded in that direction he should take away john kerry's private family jet etc
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:29:20
Joe Biden Retweeted
President Biden
@POTUS
·
Jan 23

US government account
We’re facing a historic moment in our nation’s history — one that requires bold and swift action. That’s why this week, I took historic action to deliver relief to American families and address the challenges we face.

_____

video of biden and ossoff lying about stimulus checks

http://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/1354108556266663936
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:39:49
Joe Biden Retweeted
President Biden
@POTUS
·
Jan 23

US government account
We will get through this [pandemic], together.

_____

maybe biden means "some of us will get through this pandemic leaving behind the 4100 people dying per day by covid under my presidency" [7 day average on november 3 was <850.. what a disaster since biden was elected]

Y2A
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:39:56
my god, so much bullshit is allowed to pass on here without any fact checking:

http://en....tates_federal_executive_orders
Dukhat
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:40:07
Almost every one of them was to undo all of Trump's boneheaded executive orders. Cuckservatives care so much about the stupidest fucking things.
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:45:47
y2a that's where i got my data.. column 6 is executive per year.. where biden is runaway leader
werewolf dictator
Member
Thu Jan 28 23:51:00
Joe Biden Retweeted
President Biden
@POTUS
·
Jan 22

US government account
As we mark the 48th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, now is the time to rededicate ourselves to the work ahead. From codifying Roe to eliminating maternal and infant health disparities, our Administration is committed to ensuring everyone has access to the health care they need.

_____

cafeteria catholic president with "keep the faith" at top of twitter seemingly thinks unborn need medical care of being killed

also.. maybe he is talking about everyone in israel getting health care they need since he likes giving them money when they have already universal health care and usa doesn't and won't with biden
jergul
large member
Thu Jan 28 23:52:50
That is like complaining Congress is making too many laws.

EOders are rules by decree. But you do elect a tyrant every four years by design, so what do you expect?

Get a new constitution if you dont like it.
smart dude
Member
Fri Jan 29 00:00:51
LOL @ Biden's "974" EO/py when he's been in office for like a week and only signed 24 EOs.

974 is an extrapolation. A meaningless one at that, given the sample size and the fact that these are early priorities. Grasping much?
werewolf dictator
Member
Fri Jan 29 00:01:45
trump is supposed to be fake christian with supposedly yuuuuuuge press controversy of saying "2 corinthians" as written

meanwhile biden gets pass as catholic while cheering on murder of millions of babies
Y2A
Member
Fri Jan 29 00:11:43
He's 8 fucking days into his administration. so you are doing 24 / (9 / 365) = 973.33333. EO's are skewed towards the early part of a new administration and the base is extremely low, that is why you are getting such a high number. That metric is meaningless/misleading with such a short time-frame imo.
Y2A
Member
Fri Jan 29 00:12:09
*9 days
werewolf dictator
Member
Fri Jan 29 00:15:10
Joe Biden Retweeted
President Biden
@POTUS
·
Jan 21

US government account
I give you my word: I will always level with you.

_____

this is guy who says accurate information on hunter biden laptop is russian disinformation

or that he was arrested on streets of soweto trying to see nelson mandela

pathological liar

Y2A
Member
Fri Jan 29 00:23:45
apparently Biden signed 9 EOs on day one, for a day one total EO per year of 3285. His EO per year has dropped -70% in just 8 days lol
werewolf dictator
Member
Fri Jan 29 00:55:19
Biden faces scrutiny over reliance on executive orders
By AAMER MADHANI
today

http://apn...c48846c6db54ec0ddf0f3f62485b1e

[ap] President Joe Biden and aides showed touches of prickliness Thursday over growing scrutiny of the new president’s heavy reliance on executive orders in his first days in office.

The president in just over a week has already signed more than three dozen executive orders and directives aimed at addressing the coronavirus pandemic as well as a gamut of other issues including environmental regulations, immigration policies and racial justice.

_____

even biden cultists of "New York Times editorial board on Thursday ran an opinion piece headlined “Ease up on the Executive Actions, Joe.”"

unprecedented authoritarian president
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Jan 29 01:52:35
I’ll tell you what though, it will be that much harder and we will be that much more distracted, if agent orange doesn’t shut the fuck up and instead tries to grab our attention with The Orange TV Network. Something tells me that is going to happen and while you are distracted, Biden is going ban guns, white hetro normativity and pay reparations to black people. Also legalize abortion up to 36 months. And that is just Februari.

I told 6 months before the mid terms that silicone Valley and the entire Coastal liberal establishment were going to put everything behind never allowing this to happen again. I wish we could find my post. Anyway, I hope you are happy with the result.

Again I said ”I doubt Biden will fix the things he and Obama couldn’t”, one of the first things he says as president is the covid relief bill will be aimed towards every business, but those owned by white men :) the fucking idiot in no uncertain term has told us, I will be more of the same shit, that helped elect Trump in the first place.

The sooner you understand this, the better. STOP VOTING! Or vote for whoever is going to deliber you a reform that saw the office of presidemt at the knees and delegates more responsibilities to the state level. The system is fucked.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Jan 29 02:07:30
There you go.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Mar 22 14:11:54
Silicon valley is bringing down the hammer of god on right wingers and conservatives. Trump’s election was due to bugs in the algorithm, they are being fixed.

http://www...&thread=82280&showdeleted=true

I told you so and then,

I told you, that I had already told you so. Nobody listened, nobody cared.

http://www.utopiaforums.com/boardthread?id=politics&thread=83123&showdeleted=true

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Tue Aug 07 15:01:42
Rugian didn’t I fucking todeso? I fucking todeso, in MARCH!

So, given all the warnings, give all the writtings on the wall of this accelerating slip down the shit slide, I have slim hope that you or we, or however you want to see the who’s who of the shit slide down the shitbucket, of salvaging this. You cater to your base, means everyone who isn’t you base is losing. Trump did that, Biden does that, Obama did that etc etc.
Dukhat
Member
Fri Jan 29 02:49:59
Werewolf dictator, one of the biggest asshholes on this board, suddenly cares about the "murder of babies" lol.

Cuckservatives trying to act moral is the stupidest fucking shit ever.
patom
Member
Fri Jan 29 04:39:50
I'm confused. I thought this thread was about counting lies. Now I'm sure that Biden has done his share of lying. I'm sure that the fact checkers haven't gone away.

But an Executive Order is NOT a lie. It's a fact put out that all can see. Good or bad. It's just an EO.
jergul
large member
Fri Jan 29 05:00:47
On EO. How many are simply Ø out EOs issued by Trump? Seems a bit odd to consider reversing EOs as inherently authoritarian.
werewolf dictator
Member
Fri Jan 29 05:30:29
patom

""I have this strange notion, we are a democracy ... if you can't get the votes ... you can't [legislate] by executive order unless you're a dictator. We're a democracy. We need consensus."

"Those are the words of Joe Biden. And, no, this isn't a matter of unearthing a clip from the 1980s or '90s in an attempt to play a game of gotcha on some antiquated flip-flop. That's Democratic nominee Biden, less than three weeks before the 2020 presidential election, talking to ABC News' George Stephanopoulos about the dangers of governing like a dictator."

- the hill

_____

thus biden says he thinks usa is democracy and needs consensus etc.. and then once inaugurated immediately rules as unprecedented tyrant

_____

wapo had overzealous dedicated nut paid to label everything trump said as false or misleading [even when they weren't false or misleading] and then count it all up.. that paid hatchet hack job was eliminated once plagiarizing pathological liar biden becomes president
patom
Member
Fri Jan 29 06:47:31
Wolf, so if you take over an office and your predecessor has instituted horrible policies. Are you bound to support them?

It seems you are condemning the act but not the reason behind the action.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Fri Jan 29 11:16:54
You people are arguing with a retard that thinks Russia shoots down incoming meteors with missiles. C'mon.
kargen
Member
Fri Jan 29 14:40:37
As was already pointed out numbers don't mean much. The affect they have is what counts. Several of former president Bush's executive orders were for things like naming a post office after a local hero and things like that.

I don't like executive orders when the intent is good. What President Biden is doing is especially egregious because his so far have all been out of spite. He hasn't considered the consequences of any of the orders he has signed.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Fri Jan 29 14:47:10
Kargen
You are aware of everything Trump tried to undo from previous admin, it was equally viewed to be out of spite. Is this the twilight zone? Why is this nightmare on repeat? We are going around in circles inside a circus tent to clown music. Listen and you will hear it.
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 29 20:54:09
Nimatzo, Its because a sizable chunk was out of spite.

Don't get me wrong, I learned the value of spite at a young age ( good story)

But, yeah its getting old now with presidents. But, can't really hold it against Biden now considering the Trump years.....Eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
hood
Member
Fri Jan 29 20:59:06
Trying to get back to sanity = spite these days?
habebe
Member
Fri Jan 29 21:07:37
In all fairness the issue is tge perception of spite.Quite a different thing.

No one is the villain of their own story.
werewolf dictator
Member
Fri Jan 29 22:32:49
usa has lapsed into total insanity.. it's like scene in "bananas" where new leader of san marcos announces official language will be swedish and everyone must wear underwear on outside of clothing..

_____

there is president biden obsessed with stopping global warming.. and out to name names of "carbon outlaws"..

who appoints john kerry as special envoy for climate.. when kerry's private jet alone has 40x carbon footprint of average american's total.. nevermind kerry's mansions and cars and yacht etc..

on a planet where by far the worst climate killer is cold weather.. cold attributable deaths being ~7.29% of all deaths on planet vs ~0.42% from hot weather [gasparrini et al in the lancet 2015].. and negligible deaths from tornadoes and hurricanes etc that biden thinks he will fight by throwing away trillions of dollars in the middle of economic crisis in one of most precarious world economies this side of greece.. and where nasa goddard explains to everyone that increased atmospheric co2 massively greens the earth

and also crazy president who has near top of agenda letting men use women's bathrooms.. and make sure men get to compete against female athletes.. as long as the men are pretending to be women

gg what kind of madman pathological liar just randomly makes up being thrown into south african prison trying to see nelson mandela.. seriously

this is person americans put their faith in

wow
chuck
Member
Sat Jan 30 13:56:45
Huh, ask and ye shall receive, habebe:

http://www...checking-biden-first-week.html

Fact-Checking Biden’s First Week in Office
patom
Member
Sat Jan 30 14:02:53
Yeah but how many games of Golf did he play!!!
Habebe
Member
Sat Jan 30 14:22:53
The NYT's fact checking Biden is like Bannon fact checking Trump.
chuck
Member
Sat Jan 30 14:46:41
Habebe:

> The mainstream media isn't keeping track of Biden's lies!

Also Habebe:

> Well, okay, but the mainstream media can't be trusted to keep track of Biden's lies!

The goal posts, they can only move so far.
Habebe
Member
Sat Jan 30 15:30:36
So I was specifically referring to this

"Washington Post "Fact Checker" Glenn Kessler Won't Be Counting False Biden Claims: "I Assume" He'll Be Like Obama And Tell The Truth"


http://www...assume_hell_be_like_obama.html

No goal post moving since I never set a goal post.

I was inquiring about who was keeping track for the duration of his presidency under the same standards* as they did Trump, not his advisors claiming what truths he told.


Forwyn
Member
Sat Jan 30 15:56:23
We have an Iran Contra on steroids in recent memory and the media fucking cheered the perpetrator; expecting fair treatment of his heir is lunacy.
werewolf dictator
Member
Sat Jan 30 16:40:07
"I Assume" He'll Be Like Obama And Tell The Truth"

obama's "no hostilities" going on in libya [months into bombing campaign] still has to be the most outlandish big lie of the century

and wtf would anyone assume biden will tell truth when he dropped out of 1988 primaries for lying about biographies of himself and his entire family to match those of neil kinnock.. and lying about his crappy academic record as well.. and had accumulated list of amazingly outrageous lies in meantime
habebe
Member
Wed Feb 03 02:34:47
http://youtu.be/7yJccSm8QMA

For a seems to be up on the issue.
habebe
Member
Sun Feb 14 06:04:26
Here is one, anyone remember the zero tolerance for disrespecting people amomgst his staff, he wpuld.fire them?

Duckworth gets a week suspension after pressuring and chewing out a media figure ( producer?)

I'll post the stpry later but gotta ttt
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