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Utopia Talk / Politics / impeachment #2 for Trump (#4 overall)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 31 02:20:27
so Trump's legal team all quit as he (a fucking moron) wants to argue election fraud whereas they (not morons) wanted to go w/ unconstitutionality (which they already know would win, as the spineless shameful R's in the Senate already claim they believe that, so it is the completely obvious choice to do for non-morons)

anyway... hopefully Trump will force whatever Lionel Hutz team he gets to go w/ election fraud... it would sure shoot some holes in the theory that Trump is trying to unify the nation as really-fucked-up-in-the-head Lindsey Graham & others claim

& maybe the spineless shameful R's may have to convict after all
Paramount
Member
Sun Jan 31 03:07:56
Has Giuliani got paid yet for his job?
Rugian
Member
Sun Jan 31 12:08:24
Tw, I suppose I should offer you my farewells now when I have the chance, since you're going to disappear as soon as Trump stops being in the daily news cycle.

It's been, well, something. Peace.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 31 12:12:41
i don't know... he claims he's not representing Trump as he's a witness... though that's probably a lie
Habebe
Member
Sun Jan 31 12:16:02
I was beginning to worry about TW.Glad to see he is ok.

This may* be a tactic. Recently he has won a bunch of legal cases by dragging out the process....he takes BAMN view of the law.
Habebe
Member
Sun Jan 31 12:16:32
Dont take Guilianni at his word....Just saying.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 31 12:17:22
farewell, Rugian

& if i leave, it would show it was NEVER about politics, just Trump being a TOTALLY unfit piece of shit moron fraud

the infection remains though, so i may have to vent about his cultists still :p... so much idiocy
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Jan 31 12:29:28
Just look at how many retard cultists are on this board. Six, is it?
Renzo Marquez
Member
Sun Jan 31 12:30:57
Rugian
Member Sun Jan 31 12:08:24
"Tw, I suppose I should offer you my farewells now when I have the chance, since you're going to disappear as soon as Trump stops being in the daily news cycle."

He's going to disappear when PUTLER kills him.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Jan 31 12:31:06
And you know they'll never stop believing the election was stolen and will never stop being seditious pieces of shit by trying to undermine the country. They'll be on their death beds still defending and believing every Trump lie.

At some point the US is just going to have to cut its losses with these worthless piles of shit.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 31 15:19:14
Sen Rob Portman went on the TV to talk to Trump (as was standard practice to do with the toddler) telling the moron to go with unconstitutionality as the R's ALREADY are on the record accepting that bullshit & to NOT reject the election results

here's hoping Trump remains stubborn though, although i'm sure his propaganda team at Fox will be blaring that obvious message too
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 31 16:05:31
Sen Bill Cassidy (R) also went on the TV to talk to toddler Trump... noting the charge is about Trump contributing to the atmosphere of inciting the insurrection w/ stolen election claims so maybe don't keep that up, you fucking moron...

so nice of the jurors to keep trying to help the moron defendant
Habebe
Member
Sun Jan 31 16:59:13
This impeachment will help Trump.more than hurt. At best its a distraction away from Biden.

Trump will be acquitted again. This puts him back in the news and helps pushbhis narrative of a witch hunt that he was not guilty of again....dumb move by the Dems.
Habebe
Member
Sun Jan 31 17:03:37
That said the GOP has been doing plenty of dumb shit too....they could have just kept the $1400 checks to ppl under 60k.Add.nothing else and could have gained the upper hand on negotiations by playing up how wasteful the Dems bill is, now the reps. just look cheap.

Stick with Trumps 2k.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 31 19:05:08
he was guilty both times

Rs have agreed both times

therefore neither a witch hunt
kargen
Member
Sun Jan 31 19:25:17
Turns out former president Trump didn't incite an insurrection. Democrats now say they have proof the whole thing was planned days before the speech that was supposed to have caused the riots.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Sun Jan 31 19:48:48
I bet this new evidence Democrats will present will still implicates Trump. Just a hunch.
habebe
Member
Sun Jan 31 20:33:13
tw, Guilty, and yet he will be aquitted. Letting him tout that. Of course YOU see him as guilty. But remember you perceived him guilty the first time. And his aquittal was possibly his best week, this is before covid was really a big thing.

Wrath of Orion
Member
Sun Jan 31 20:59:41
"Democrats now say they have proof the whole thing was planned days before the speech that was supposed to have caused the riots."

Trump fluffer...that's really the whole point. It's not just about the day of speech.

But like I said, pieces of shit like you people will never learn. You're a cancer to this country.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Jan 31 21:58:00
it's not like Trump said this election would be total fraud all year long or something... then kicked it into high gear w/ dozens of posts daily on any totally unverified nonsense that he heard from any source whatsoever

i'm sure all these people would have been there & done what they did if not for Trump...

how STUPID are you people (kargen)

Habebe
Member
Sun Jan 31 23:14:04
Tw, Is harris responsible for the deaths due to people refusing the vaccinne?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 01:02:47
no, as she never discouraged it

we've been over this

(& she has taken it on camera, unlike the moron fraud ever will)
kargen
Member
Mon Feb 01 01:13:04
" It's not just about the day of speech."

Well of course not now. Turns out the speech wasn't the cause so they gotta invent something else.

Ya want to see the cancer destroying this country look in a fucking mirror.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 01:29:11
"so they gotta invent something else"

yeah, nobody noticed him undermining faith in the election every single day, right? ... & trying to obstruct every step in the process, til this final last chance to act

who could possibly get incited...
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 01:40:26
announcement put out by "45th 'President' Donald J. Trump" about his new lawyers:

http://i.d...1-image-a-40_1612145120416.jpg

do you think it says "45th President" enough times?

also calling the lawyers "highly respected"... Trump's standard claim about every single person who is on his team or who praises him in the media (even if he has no idea who the person is)... ever the fraud

sounds like they may be going back to the unconstitutionality defense as is the obvious one to go with, even though it's total bullshit that R's clinging to so they don't have to actually judge Trump's behavior

here's hoping Dems still can call Trump as a witness where he will ruin everything
Rugian
Member
Mon Feb 01 07:05:45
Tw

Whoever wrote that knew their audience. If that statement didn't affix "45th" to his title, people like you would be accusing him of claiming he's still the president. Even though it's fully appropriate to still style him as "President Trump," the clarity needs to be added for the hacks.
Habebe
Member
Mon Feb 01 10:43:43
"no, as she never discouraged it

we've been over this

(& she has taken it on camera, unlike the moron fraud ever will)"

She clearly discouraged it. Yes she may taken one since, but Trump has also denounced the. rioters....he has also worn a mask in tv....were all good? No damage done.
Dakyron
Member
Mon Feb 01 11:42:52
"Ya want to see the cancer destroying this country look in a fucking mirror. "

Take your own advice. At this rate we are a few election cycles away from becoming Myanmar.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 11:48:28
seek a therapist about your equivalence problem


everything she said on the vaccine was spot on (plus you're referring to a single instance that she clarified in the face of Trump media's mischaracterization)

Trump was anti-mask continuously, only coaxed into wearing one once on TV (& he still had to be a dick & note it was only as he was in a hospital), & then went back to opposing them including at both debates... & obviously his cultists knew he was against masks as they treated the rallies as a vacation from local laws (& he smugly called them protests in order to do so, 'hooray, we evaded public safety measures!... & killed Herman Cain... & countless others') + his closest staff in the White House wouldn't wear them as they knew he hated seeing them on people (even smearing loyal cultist Laura Ingraham with the vile "politically correct" label when he spotted her w/ one)

...the most ridiculously unfit 'president' in history
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 11:48:51
(^to habebe)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 12:26:20
lengthy investigative article on traitor Trump's attempt to overthrow democracy:

http://www...hread=87563&time=1612203759398
(put in 'deleted threads' as so long)

kargen in particular should read as he was unaware Trump did anything besides the one speech apparently
Habebe
Member
Mon Feb 01 19:32:47
Equivealancy aside. Let's look it at purely on its own merits.

Because Harris didn't like Trump she pushed the narrative that the vaccine was unsafe.

Facts.
Habebe
Member
Mon Feb 01 19:33:17
This is anti vaxxer tin batter shit.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 22:20:07
she didn't push that narrative... she said she wouldn't take Trump's word for anything & had concerns the experts would be side-lined

which has now been confirmed (even though it was pretty clear at the time for those paying attention)
Habebe
Member
Mon Feb 01 22:24:10
That would be an unrealistically huge conspiracy for Trump to rush an unsafe vaccine, let alone several.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 22:30:27
he was trying his best to do so however

'pushing' the narrative suggests she mentioned it repeatedly, i know of her doing it once & then clarifying as you nutbags found her comments crazy even though they were perfectly sensible
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 01 22:35:02
has Fox found anyone who has said "i'm not getting the vaccine because of what Kamala said that one time... even though she didn't really say anything discouraging about it"?

do you expect that person exists?
habebe
Member
Tue Feb 02 00:13:47
Of course not. Just as the people not wearimg masks did not do so BECAUSE Trump told them not to.

But his example is influential. As is hers. Honestly she is much closer to a cult od pwrsonality than Biden ever will be. They sell shirts with her all over. They even sell Kamalla swimsuits.

Her example is influential in a similar manner to Trump's. She is more popular amongst black women than Trump was to White men.

I fimd it an important fact to point out since Trump was so bashed over his mask usage, and getting a vaccinne or not is much more important. Black females are a specific group that has an unusually high level of mistrust in the vaccine.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Feb 02 00:25:02
cultists absolutely would've worn masks more if he encouraged it, they are even on tape saying so & obviously if mandatory at his rallies (which they easily could've been) they would've worn the masks

and there is NOTHING FUCKING EQUIVALENT about Trump all year long downplaying the virus & discouraging masks & purposely and proudly holding rallies without precautions -vs- Kamala ONE TIME saying she wouldn't trust Trump only experts on the vaccine (which is totally FINE)

jesus
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Feb 02 17:11:56
Newsmax, apparently now very worried about Dominion lawsuits, has to cut-off My Pillow Guy's ranting (who presumably will be sued too)
http://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1356731998937772039
they only booked him to be outraged about 'cancel culture' but the deranged nutball didn't play along... what a shame Trumpers are all deranged nutballs
Habebe
Member
Tue Feb 02 17:22:57
I read the mypillow guy got kicked off some social media sites as well.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Feb 02 17:44:12
he's still trying to overthrow the government so... i guess the front-runner R candidate for 2024
werewolf dictator
Member
Tue Feb 02 22:17:33
democrats like to do the opposite of republicans so they wore masks more because trump didn't
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Wed Feb 03 13:08:58
Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz on Wednesday offered to represent former President Trump in his second impeachment trial, telling Fox News he would be willing to resign from his seat in the House of Representatives if asked to join the Trump legal team.

Gaetz, R-Fla., told Fox News on Wednesday that he has not been asked to join the former president’s defense, but offered to do so.

"I only regret that I have but one political career to give to my president," Gaetz told Fox News.

Gaetz told Fox News that he offered to represent Trump through Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows "weeks ago."

"When ethics advised that sitting House members couldn’t do it, the conversations ceased," Gaetz explained.

Gaetz, though, told Fox News that, if Trump asked him to join his defense, he would accept.

When asked whether he would resign from the House to do so, Gaetz told Fox News: "If the law requires it, yes."

Gaetz first floated the idea on the podcast, War Room Pandemic, saying: "I would leave my House seat, I would leave my home."

"I view this cancellation of the Trump presidency and the Trump movement as one of the biggest threats," Gaetz said on the podcast. "I’m here to win, to win so much I get tired of it because that’s what was promised."Gaetz comments come after the former president announced a new legal defense team, after he parted ways with five of his impeachment lawyers just a week before his Senate trial is set to begin.
...

http://www...defend-trump-impeachment-trial

cult
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Feb 09 02:07:06
Ron Johnson:
"
Well, again, I have always believed the Russian hoax was a diversionary operation from the corruption that was occurring within certainly the FBI and potentially some of our intelligence agencies.

You have to kind of ask the question, what is this impeachment all about? We now know that 45 Republican senators believe it's unconstitutional. Is this another diversionary operation? Is this meant to deflect away from potentially what the speaker knew and when she knew it?

I don't know. But I'm suspicious.
"
... a senator... 1 of 100 people deciding our federal laws...

where is all this stupidity coming from
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Feb 12 14:11:16
the mother fucker team trump attorney now moved from misleading to flat lying... he just claimed there was no signature verification of mail-in ballots in Georgia

(also they added music to spice up a meaningless video to seem more entertaining for the fucking moron i guess)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Feb 12 14:13:00
...pretty sure he's also deliberately threatening the R senators by multiple times mentioning how Trump wants to primary anyone who goes against him
Rugian
Member
Fri Feb 12 16:49:08
Today's presentation was a knock-out punch. Democrats' hypocrisy was completely exposed.

Also, this may be the first time the media 3ver reports the "very fine people" comment in its proper context. Rofl

Any Republican that still votes for conviction after this deserves to be primaried.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Fri Feb 12 20:15:09
Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham are two jurors openly, shamelessly working with the defense

It should be noted that Ted Cruz cited public polling in the 30 or 40% range thinking the election was fraudulent as a reason not to certify the electoral votes (but not saying he found it fraudulent himself)

Whereas a distraught Lindsey was forced to acknowledge team Trump was unable to provide even minimal proof to him of Trump’s fraud claims when asked

So they -know- Trump poisoned the mind of tens of millions of voters against America’s elections (and incited that mob) and now want to approve of that behavior... totally crazy
habebe
Member
Fri Feb 12 22:14:19
tw, And plenty of other Senators are openly working to convict...He will be aquitted again, Legally speaking no crime will have been committed then.

Trump will gloat about this, as he did the last time...Ive said it from the beginning it was a bad idea as this will only benefit Trump.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 01:26:30
"Legally speaking no crime will have been committed then"

completely false & weird thing to think

also, Trump has been pretty well silenced so not that concerned about his unwarranted gloating

everyone will see it as a sham trial as usual & R's can live in shame

...they fear Trump speaking as know he'd say unfit shit... how pathetic is that
Habebe
Member
Sat Feb 13 01:41:05
How is it weird to think?

If you are innocent until proven guilty and you are proven not guilty then by default he is innocent.
Paramount
Member
Sat Feb 13 02:54:41
I hear there will be a verdict later on today? If they acquit him, then it will set a precedent for the future.

A TRIAL BY COMBAT will follow every election. After the votes has been counted, the losing side will have one more chance to win the election, by storming the capitol and by force oust the side that won the most votes.
Habebe
Member
Sat Feb 13 02:58:26
Paramount, Perhaps were done with elections by vote and we just have the them fight it out behind the school like Biden opted for.

I think Trump could take Biden, and Pence would wreck Kamala, he could identify as a woman of color for the duration of the fight.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 12:41:40
he isn't being charged with a crime & it isn't a criminal trial, so no he's not being inoculated against anything

(& obviously this would be an absurd jury to ever decide a criminal case against a politician, even without at least 3 jurors openly assisting the defense)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 14:43:17
Collins has said guilty, so bipartisan

as good as could be hoped
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 14:47:56
McConnell chickened out, Romney keeping his soul intact though

so at least 2 R's that i know of (not keeping good track though)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 14:50:19
57-43 not bad at all, all things considered
Rugian
Member
Sat Feb 13 14:53:03
When was "bipartisan" redefined as consisting of 50 Ds plus 1 R?

What a retarded way to define it, and tw of course unquestionably adopts it because CNN told him that's what "bipartisan" means.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 15:03:49
the R senators w/ incoming death threats:

Richard Burr of North Carolina,
Bill Cassidy of Louisiana,
Susan Collins of Maine,
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Mitt Romney of Utah,
Ben Sasse of Nebraska
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 15:07:42
"What a retarded way to define it, and tw of course unquestionably adopts it because CNN told him that's what "bipartisan" means. "

embarrassingly wrong... i haven't even heard CNN say it... i actually adopted it as the Fox News types claimed it back when 1 or 2 House Dems voted against first impeachment
(& i do find using it absurd in such cases)

although it got up to 7, so pretty good, i was going to be happy with anything over 1
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 15:09:56
Mitch is fine to criticize Trump completely now though in his speech... i guess he figures the stupid cultists will only ever hear the conviction vote
Rugian
Member
Sat Feb 13 15:11:18
Literally the first result from googling CNN's coverage on the first impeachment:

"And with Sen. Romney's announcement he will vote yes on the articles, there will be a bipartisan vote — just not the one Trump's impeachment team wanted."

http://www...0b64aa1615b70984b0f00bb262c0c7

Why do you feel a need to lie to cover for CNN's bias tw?
Rugian
Member
Sat Feb 13 15:11:21
Literally the first result from googling CNN's coverage on the first impeachment:

"And with Sen. Romney's announcement he will vote yes on the articles, there will be a bipartisan vote — just not the one Trump's impeachment team wanted."

http://www...0b64aa1615b70984b0f00bb262c0c7

Why do you feel a need to lie to cover for CNN's bias tw?
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 15:16:51
i didn't lie... i know exactly where i picked it up... CNN using it doesn't prove anything

and 7 out of 50 R's voting against party kinda does have meaning

also be sure to listen to Mitch, still pissing on Trump... he sounds like a House impeachment manager
Rugian
Member
Sat Feb 13 15:19:09
tumbleweed
the wanderer Sat Feb 13 15:16:51
"i didn't lie... i know exactly where i picked it up..."

Yes, CNN.

It's sad that you're not even consciously aware of how much damage CNN's bias coverage has done to your worldview.

"and 7 out of 50 R's voting against party kinda does have meaning"

Except you instantly called it a "bipartisan" impeachment the moment Collins voted for it. You only needed 1 GOP Senator to call it bipartisan, not 7.

Thanks for proving my point sir.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 15:37:54
look... i used "bipartisan" mockingly, as that's what YOUR side did on first impeachment... (when 1 or 2 out of 233 Dems voted against it, 1 switched party iirc)

i know why i do things... these things stick w/ me

like that asshole R who stated total bullshit on the floor of congress, then when caught on it had his office release a statement that it was "not intended to be a factual statement"
...i'm not going to forget that

----

although even though my use of "bipartisan" was mocking, the fact R's are the ones breaking ranks is notable

sham hoax impeachments would get exactly 0 votes from opposing side... neither impeachment was one, & Trump guilty both times
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 17:27:43
also for habebe, here's Mitch specifically noting Trump still criminally liable for everything

http://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1360707464371445764

my guess is he'd like Trump to be charged, he was never in the cult, just swallowed some shit to serve his purposes but never spouted Trump's crazy theories
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sat Feb 13 21:18:10
Louisiana GOP Executive Committee Unanimously Votes to Censure Senator Bill Cassidy

cancel culture

cult
habebe
Member
Sat Feb 13 21:46:53
There is a reason Ive called him Darth Terrapin.It suits his purpose now to curry favor and to calm down his own constituents.
jergul
large member
Sun Feb 14 03:16:16
57 was better than I expected. There may be some core of the GOP not infected by dryrot.
Habebe
Member
Sun Feb 14 21:15:13
Senator Graham has now indicated that VP Harris may be impeached if the Republicans can take the house over her fund to bail people out.

http://www...-gop-takes-over-the-house/amp/

Now to clarify, his statements for now are meant to draw attention to what he perceives as the absurdity of this last trial and its basis.

Not actually calling for her impeachment.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Feb 14 21:55:54
Lindsey's different personalities need given separate names to keep things straight
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Feb 14 21:56:40
(also obviously it wasn't absurd given all the Republican support, not just in congress... plus even the majority leader who voted 'not guilty' said Trump completely responsible)
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Feb 14 21:59:22
well 'minority' not 'majority' leader, but point being not a fringe member, most likely many shared his view
Dukhat
Member
Sun Feb 14 22:13:37
So this is Mitch telling Trump, "Do it again, and we'll have enough."

... or something like that.

What a waste of time. All the young people who watched the trial and aren't delusional like foreskin saw the GOP for what they are. Spineless Trump enablers.
habebe
Member
Sun Feb 14 22:27:44
tw,I chose my words carefully there

His statements for now*

Deep down I dont think Graham is a Trumper. Siding with Trump and Jaime Harrison being Pelosi's prodigy is what got him re-elected.

Plus he was on board for the judges, some policies and Try.p power moves, but he doesnt like Trump.

That's my take atleast.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Feb 14 22:55:50
i don't think Lindsey Graham has any compass left at all... he wildly swings back and forth (although most of his personalities support Trump, even if some are disingenuous)
habebe
Member
Sun Feb 14 23:09:48
He does what he thinks will keep him in office.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Sun Feb 14 23:24:32
he just got re-elected, he's safe for 6 years

Jan 6 he was admitting Trump couldn't even provide minimal evidence to support any of his wild fraud claim figures & wanted off the Trump train... then a month later he's Trump's top defender (including literally being on the defense team & going on Fox to be an influencer) & is saying Trump is the future of the party

there is no sanity to that behavior
Habebe
Member
Mon Feb 15 05:14:06
Tw, Fair enough. You forgot to mention he put up $500k of his personal cash to the Trump legal fund...

Its an odd relationship between SC and Graham. No one really like him, but he isn't hated either, its cool that he is a relatively high ranking Senator and we dont want to start from scratch I guess.

Plusnits SC, evennthe blacks are pro gun Baptists.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 15 12:27:14
pie chart & analysis of senator opinions (in article):
http://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1361362981687296003

summary:

of the 43 cowards, their not guilty vote based on:
- Jurisdiction-Based Objections: 23
- Jurisdiction-and Merits-Based Objections: 15
- Unclear Rationale: 1
- Statements on Explanation of Vote Not Available: 4

so minimally 23 more would have voted guilty if he was still in office (like McConnell indicated)... well into conviction range

(& since jurisdiction had already been settled by senate vote, they all should've convicted... they treated that vote as meaningless)
Rugian
Member
Mon Feb 15 12:42:21
"since jurisdiction had already been settled by senate vote, they all should've convicted"

This is such bullshit reasoning and it shows what a hack you are. If you were a Senator and thought the Senate had voted wrongly on a procedural step, why would you accept an authority that you don't believe you rightfully have?
Rugian
Member
Mon Feb 15 12:50:22
Also regarding your earlier reply:

"Look... i used "bipartisan" mockingly, as that's what YOUR side did on first impeachment... (when 1 or 2 out of 233 Dems voted against it, 1 switched party iirc)"

First of all, you're not capable of sarcasm or any other human reaction or emotion aside from hatred. Out of all the posters on here, you're the only one that never finds anything funny, or is able to admit fault, or express pleasure at something; the only thing I have ever seen you convey is an unceasing obsession with the orange man. You're a straight up robot.

Secondly, even if Fox or OAN or whoever did do that at the time, how does it make it any more acceptable for outlines like CNN or NYT to adopt the same standard? They're supposed to be the "credible" sources, right? Shouldn't they be above stooping to that level?

Be better, tw.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 15 17:56:35
"why would you accept an authority that you don't believe you rightfully have?"

would Dems have gotten to continue w/ the impeachment if they lost that vote?

--

for 'bipartisan', i wasn't making any judgment on CNN or NYT using it... you're the one who looked it up that they used it

i am certain -I- used "bipartisan" for when -your- side used it... i was mocking the use when i said it (although that was before i knew it was going to be 7, i didn't expect that many)

7 out of 50 quite a bit better than the 1.5 out of 233 when your team said it

...& you are showing signs of obsession yourself
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Mon Feb 15 18:08:47
also there's no way it was a sincerely held belief by the ~45 R's... they just didn't want to have to judge Trump's indefensible actions (as cowards)

no dangerous precedent was being set, Trump was impeached while in office... no risk of George Washington or random assholes off the street being impeached (plus impeachment out of office already has happened)
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