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habebe
Member
Tue Feb 02 07:17:16
http://www...nsurrection-story-2021-2%3famp

Milking this for every drop.
Renzo Marquez
Member
Tue Feb 02 07:31:13
She might be more narcissistic and sociopathic than Trump.
Dukhat
Member
Tue Feb 02 07:56:40
Most women are victims and she's not wrong.

It's far more narcissistic and sociopathic to delegitimize real sexual assault, but then we all knew that Renzo was a horrible, piece of shit human being. All cuckservatives are. If I saw most of you in real life, I'd double-check my piece to be sure it was ready to go.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Feb 02 07:58:27
Delegitimizing sexual assault would be tying it to a riot and comparing detractors to abusers, lol
Dukhat
Member
Tue Feb 02 08:03:04
That was a pretty huge assault on democracy. Both are extreme violence and felonies. The capitol assault was actually far more dangerous to America than just a single rape and an intellectually honest Forwyn would say as much if he was a real libertarian, and not just a pretend one.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Feb 02 08:12:10
"huge"
"extreme"
"dangerous"

As defined by people comparing those who don't think that Boomers making the Senate look like a Bass Pro Shop is some precipitous moment for America to rapists and abusers
hood
Member
Tue Feb 02 08:12:53
It should be pretty clear what AOC was saying:
- at one point in her life, she was sexually assaulted.
- during the riot in the capitol, the fear for her life was of a similar experience to the assault she suffered.
- the attitude of republicans wanting to simply forget and move on is the attitude of a criminal (or, abuser) not wanting to deal with the consequences of their actions.

The logic isn't difficult.
Forwyn
Member
Tue Feb 02 08:15:15
If irrational male anger can be mocked, so too can irrational female fear.
Habebe
Member
Tue Feb 02 08:43:28
She is milking this for political sympathy....Never let a crisis go to way waste.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Feb 02 09:38:15
[Renzo]: "She might be more narcissistic and sociopathic than Trump."

Yeah. This was... bad. I've seen people use former trauma as social credit before, but wow. She just weaponized it as a way to say that people should resign. That's the sort of manipulation that churches use: make an ultra-pathos argument that people will get emotional about, but then drop an absurd premise like, "[And that's why you should give us your money and convert to our deity.]" In this case: "[I experienced a trauma years ago. This reminded me of that. Now that you feel for me, the following people that I have clumsily paralleled to my abusers should resign.]"

On the plus side for logic, she basically explained why it's completely insane to think that she had a *reasonable* fear for her life during the Capitol assault. She explained that she was afraid because of former trauma rather than due to a clear understanding of real conflict. This means that she should not be in a position of political power. She should not have the power to send other people into conflicts, for instance. She should abstain from any votes which put the military at risk. She showed an extreme ignorance of the simple things that a leader would need to know in order to command people in a real world conflict.
Habebe
Member
Tue Feb 02 09:52:41
Cherub, Im not surprised after she was the main figure pushing for RBG to be replaced by Biden because "It was her dying wish"

She has a tendency for emotional manipulation.

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On the plus side for logic, she basically explained why it's completely insane to think that she had a *reasonable* fear for her life during the Capitol assault. She explained that she was afraid because of former trauma rather than due to a clear understanding of real conflict. "

Good point.
Rugian
Member
Tue Feb 02 09:54:34
Hood

She was attempting to tie sexual assault to the Capitol riot. That's quite simply just emotional manipulation.

You never saw Steve Scalise talking about how he was bullied as a child and therefore Bernie Sanders should resign for having him shot.
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Feb 02 10:38:51
Not that long ago we had a thread about an article where a police chief got into trouble saying "grope me don't rape me" expressing the sense of violation, as BLM was trying to gut his department. He just used the metaphor of rape in the wrong time and place and got into trouble. Despite everyone understanding what he meant, you can argue that a police chief should not express themselves that way. Makes sense.

Should politicians keep using fear and trauma (AKA fear monger) to whip their base into opposition? Everyone seems to agree this is a bad idea, unless it is an issue that makes up a significant part of their identity, then it is ok (and you will have trouble communicating with these people, since their increasingly LOUD CHANTING makes it difficult to hear your own thoughts).
Nimatzo
iChihuaha
Tue Feb 02 10:48:34
"hood
Member Tue Feb 02 08:12:53
It should be pretty clear what AOC was saying"

The technically autistic analysis is clear, but it would be dopey to think that was it. What habebe wrote is what she intended, "Trump made her feel like when she was raped". The "logic" is only there if >feelings< glue it together. And I am not saying she didn't feel that way or that "feelz" are unimportant, but she is also a politician who is doing more than just share some thoughts.
tumbleweed
the wanderer
Tue Feb 02 11:00:18
"She might be more narcissistic and sociopathic than Trump"

an impossibility

also completely credible she could find the incident traumatic

not AOC, but this looks like it would be traumatic for that woman (lying on floor, security w/ guns drawn at the barricaded door w/ smashed windows which is what was happening at that time):
http://www...EB6O2NGDT5GQ7N5J4SCGTGABWM.jpg

you can pretend no one was in mortal danger due to all the clowns in the riot, but that's a guess (plus obviously they were violent to the cops)

however, all of that is irrelevant as the people inside don't know what the attackers are planning

plus AOC is a main target by the outrage media on the right, she's right to be especially fearful

(& she never compared it to sexual assault, at least in that article... only the idea of 'just get over it' that R's pushing)
Sam Adams
Member
Tue Feb 02 11:11:36
Running out of percieved victimhood points, gotta make up something else i see.

AOC is the trump of the left.
Habebe
Member
Tue Feb 02 11:35:47
"also completely credible she could find the incident traumatic"

Giving her the benefit of the doubt, yes, this is true. PTSD is a real thing.

However, this is clearly a bit of emotional manipulation ( word of the day)

Not that Republicans dont use it.Im sure we couldnfind plenty of examples regarding abortion.

Habebe
Member
Tue Feb 02 11:36:39
"AOC is the trump of the left."

Why do I hear chicken of the sea?
Y2A
Member
Tue Feb 02 11:50:30
"The logic isn't difficult."

it is for crazed MAGAs
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Feb 03 15:53:13
It has now been revealed that AOC was not even in the capital building at the time.

Rofl owned.
habebe
Member
Wed Feb 03 16:53:59
Sam it's funny, I didnt find any major media outlets talking abput this, just smaller ones, way easier to find on DuckDuckgo.

But she admitted it on her twitter.

Claiming its a right wing trick because people don't know the layout of the buildings.
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Feb 03 17:14:29
"I was in a building blocks away that was never threatened"

Rofl
Sam Adams
Member
Wed Feb 03 17:20:22
Quite a difference from "i was basically raped and almost murdered."
Renzo Marquez
Member
Wed Feb 03 17:20:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrVPPLNLEZM
Senor Marquez
Member
Wed Feb 03 17:26:35
^edgelord internet lawyer
Forwyn
Member
Wed Feb 03 20:25:48
Lol. Did she really run to the bathroom thinking it was "the end" because a cop knocked on her office door?
Habebe
Member
Wed Feb 03 20:34:05
Forwyn, Keep in mind this is a person who supports gun bans.....let that sink in.
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Feb 05 07:12:30
[SA]: "It has now been revealed that AOC was not even in the capital building at the time."

Pretty funny breakdown of it on Crowder:
(Starting at about 7:15)
[StevenCrowder; February 4th, 2021]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKxGp8jQzps

They point out some of her other glaring issues in a pretty magical roast.
Rugian
Member
Fri Feb 05 10:18:31
AOC is a "survivor!"


...in the same way that David Hogg is a "survivor," I suppose.

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'Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Friday doubled down on her “terrifying” experience during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot — saying she initially kept mum about it because “so many survivors fear being publicly doubted.”

The Bronx-Queens congresswoman appeared on “CBS This Morning” after being accused of exaggerating details of Jan. 6, when a mob of protesters supporting former President Donald Trump protesters breached the Capitol building.

“It’s unfortunately kind of the spring to deny and to politicize our accounts, was something that I sat with,” Ocasio-Cortez said on the show. “So many survivors fear being publicly doubted. But the fact of the matter is the account is accurate.”

She added, “When it comes to minimizing the experience of survivors, that is extremely damaging as well.”"

http://nyp...fying-capitol-riot-experience/

So stunning, so brave. Yas slay queen!
Rugian
Member
Fri Feb 05 10:20:36
Remember when the term "survivor" was largely reserved for people who went through a continent-wide campaign of industrial genocide?

I miss that.
sam adams
Member
Fri Feb 05 11:50:18
One time we flew through moderate turbulence and it spilled my wine over a nice shirt.

I think i am a survivor of a dark and harrowing experience according to AOC logic. I mean if that turbulence had been any stronger, i might have spilled my peanuts too!
Renzo Marquez
Member
Fri Feb 05 12:04:40
AOC was raped as much as Brian Sicknick was murdered.

http://www...an-sicknick-charges/index.html

"According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true."
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Feb 06 05:31:05
Big yikes. That officer was the only death that DNC-media really had for their "*DEADLY* Capitol Insurrection!" narrative, since the other deaths were Trump supporters dying of diabetes or dying because an amped up security guard skipped threat assessment training. They *really* need the medical examiner to come through on this one, otherwise they'll have to just like.. abandon that talking point or something.. :'(

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[SA]: "One time we flew through moderate turbulence and it spilled my wine over a nice shirt."

This seems like a safe place to share survivor stories.. so here goes: I once posted to Twitter and was noticed outside of my echo chamber.. and someone that I do *not* like supported me. It was awful. I was so blind with cognitive dissonance that I couldn't even find the mute/block/report buttons. Luckily, after an hour spent thinking of a great #clapback that would get me more upvotes from my low-IQ Kardashian-fan followers, I was able to call my oppressor a Charles Manson murder-instigator and told him to resign. #Powerful #InTheFaceOfMonsters #NazisGettingTold

I hope that you can all respect my trauma and donate to my GoFundMe. The GoFundMe is directly related to this pathos story, since it will support efforts to remove the paws of stray dogs in developing nations and replace those paws with air horns. Thank you for reading. Please smash that like button and be sure to subscribe for more garbage.
jergul
large member
Sat Feb 06 08:21:23
I truly hope you all are as blessed as you seem. Though in honesty, I would have jotted CC down as a survivor of something quite sordid.

PTSD manifests in many ways beyond cat ownership.
Wrath of Orion
Member
Sat Feb 06 10:15:29
"I would have jotted CC down as a survivor of something quite sordid"

There is something there, yes. That is a broken person.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Feb 06 19:36:36
[jergul]: "I would have jotted CC down as a survivor of something quite sordid."
[WoO]: "There is something there, yes. That is a broken person."

Thank you for being moved by the pathos power of my survivor story. :')
Please report any Twitter users that point out how mentally unstable, vainglorious, and fallacious my arguments may be. It's important that we recognize that survivors can only ever be blameless rather than recognizing that people with low trauma thresholds will call anything trauma. It's users like you that got me to 12 million subscribers on Twitter even though my district only has 696k people. Please be sure to repost my #clapbacks to Reddit so I can build more #clout.

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[jergul]: "PTSD manifests in many ways beyond cat ownership."

I'm glad your image of me is so accurate! :')
It's not that I have zero cats — oh no, no, no! Zero isn't sensational at all! I must have many more!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9P1DmgXOCg
#LifeGoals
jergul
large member
Sun Feb 07 02:41:16
I would jot you down to having exactly 1 cat.

The sentiments I have shared have nothing to do with your piss poor attempts at sarcasm.

Its merely an opinion I have formed over the years. I have mentioned it before.


Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Feb 07 06:20:09
Your opinions and insights are as important as your intelligence is demonstrable.
obaminated
Member
Sun Feb 07 12:22:38
Keep in mind aoc is the chick who had her staffers take a picture of her crying while looking at an immigration camp. In reality it was an empty parking lot and she was acting.

Also, she wasnt anywhere near the rioters, she was in a seperate building. She has since said the officer who escorted her out of the building looked at her in a racist way.

She is basically a sociopath. But hood will defend her because he is a simp for that coked out looking bitch.
jergul
large member
Sun Feb 07 14:04:38
Obam
Let go of the hatred, bro. These things have been fact checked.

It says a lot about you btw. None of it good.
Rugian
Member
Sun Feb 07 14:06:11
It says a lot of HIM for pointing out AOC's sociopathy?

What would you characterize your attitude toward Trump as again?
Rugian
Member
Sun Feb 07 14:10:22
Also you're wrong, the mainstream media has been slobbering over AOC's version of events and attacking anyone who dares question it.

CNN flat out said "it doesn't matter what's true, it matters what she thinks is true" as a defense for her statements. State press gonna state press.
jergul
large member
Sun Feb 07 21:49:50
Ruggy
Surely you are used to that from every time anyone in US security forces kills someone at home or abroad?

Perception matters. Its a firmly established principle.

Or is that only true why people shoot exchange students in their yards?
Forwyn
Member
Sun Feb 07 22:56:59
And those perceptions are regularly debated, as you say, when someone is victimized, such as in a shooting. Whether or not that perception was reasonable, or justified, is actively argued.

It doesn't have to involve hatred, or some implicit bias.

Her perception was not reasonable. Whether past traumas clouded her perception does not make it reasonable, but could perhaps make it understandable.

Emotions are not correct simply for existing. Kyle should not punch holes in his drywall every time he's inconvenienced, even if Uncle Ted touched him as a kid.
jergul
large member
Sun Feb 07 23:37:40
I think her perceptions were reasonable. Including misintepreting a freaked out security guard.

obaminated
Member
Sun Feb 07 23:52:52
He wasnt freaked out and he wasnt a security guard. 0 for 2 there jergul.
jergul
large member
Mon Feb 08 02:38:23
Obam
Do I fucking care how you designate your security forces? He was a guy employed and tasked with congressperson safety in the midst of an insurrection.

He clearly did not do a very good job in the case of this congresswoman. The obvious explanation is that he was freaked out by the security meltdown and was not convinced he could keep his wards safe.
werewolf dictator
Member
Mon Feb 08 05:54:30
AOC Claims She Was Killed In The Capitol Riots And Is Now A Ghost

http://bab...e-capitol-riots-and-is-a-ghost
Rugian
Member
Mon Feb 08 08:09:14
Jergul suffers the same problem that AOC does. For any given situation, he first establishes a narrative in his head, and then he rewrites the facts so that they comport with that narrative.

There is no evidence whatsoever that the officer was "freaked out." Even AOC herself said nothing of the sort in her diatribe.

It would have been okay for AOC to share her perceptions of the event while noting that they were wildly off base. "Hey guys, we were watching the events in the Capitol and even though I was totally safe, I was still scared that harm would come to me." That would have been fine.

Instead, she framed her account by heavily implying that her truth was THE truth. When in fact it was not.

Jergul, do better.

Also, obam wrecked you on the police thing.
jergul
large member
Mon Feb 08 08:19:43
Ruggy
Not at all. You would need a degree of crazy to track the nuances of the 100k or so unique security forces you have in the US (40k police and sherrif and say 60k other private and government entities).

The security force operative did not handle his task well. He freaked out one of the people he was supposed to protect.

A reasonable explanation is that he was under stress in the midst of a security force meltdown during an active insurrection.

But sure, lets run with your theory. He was a sociopath that showed no outward sign of being under pressure.
jergul
large member
Mon Feb 08 08:25:31
http://edi...police-officer-cruz/index.html

Knock yourselves out.
Rugian
Member
Mon Feb 08 08:29:17
Jergul

Being able to maintain a sense of calm does not make one a sociopath.

I have no idea why you are so hellbent on libeling this guy. Other than maybe you have a thirst for AOC?

And I'm not interested in indulging your fantasy of the US adopting a European-style police force. If you had bothered to read even one article on the incident in the last month, you would have seen references to "United States Capitol Police." The name is self-explanatory.
jergul
large member
Mon Feb 08 08:44:38
Ruggy
Being stressed out in a stressing context is not libel. The Congresswoman was clear that the security force person seemed upset. She mistook it for anger. I supect it was stress.

Yah, like I am going to start memorizing the names of 10s of thousand security force organizations in the US.
Rugian
Member
Mon Feb 08 08:53:10
Jergul

The fact is that you described a scenario hat you have no reason to think actually existed, but believe in anyway because your political tribe demands it.

Classic example of doublethink.

I didn't realize that your average American has the names of tens of thousands of law enforcement organizations memorized. Most of us realized long ago that you just need to know of they're city cops or staties, to which you append the name of the locality they're operating in. If they're sheriffs, use the county instead.

This isn't rocket science bro.
werewolf dictator
Member
Mon Feb 08 09:10:08
Snopes Rates AOC's Account Of Capitol Attack As 'Factually Inaccurate But Morally True'

http://bab...ly-inaccurate-but-morally-true
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Feb 08 11:11:30
"Snopes Rates AOC's Account Of Capitol Attack As 'Factually Inaccurate But Morally True'"

lol.. BabylonBee has had some great material lately :D
Their AOC apology video was also good:
"The Babylon Bee Apologizes For Offensive Article About AOC"
[February 6th, 2021]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvYLBuyGn6s

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[Rugian]: "Most of us realized long ago that you just need to know of they're city cops or staties, to which you append the name of the locality they're operating in. If they're sheriffs, use the county instead."

But like.. why come they don't have a tattoo? They're not un-scannable are they? They're un-scannable? UN-SCANNABLE!! D:!! AHH!
Habebe
Member
Mon Feb 08 11:17:47
"Factually Inaccurate But Morally True'

Hahahahahahahahahaha

" feel facts" they may not be actually true, but they kust feel like they are
jergul
large member
Mon Feb 08 14:38:08
Ruggy
We do have evidence of the security force operative's state of mind. He seemed angry according to the congress person. Entirely possible that he was. One one likes to be yanked away from their unit in a high stress situation.

However, it is also possible that his emotional state was one of stress, which given the circumstances, seems as equally likely.

A security force meltdown during an insurrection could stress out anyone involved in the force.

Tracking your security forces in their uncountable number of entities would amount to a fetish. Not my cup of tea.
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Feb 08 23:58:10
[jergul]: "We do have evidence of the security force operative's state of mind."

lulz. This is how Jergul establishes "evidence": the testimony of one member of congress which has so far been contradicted by all of the people around her and which has not been confirmed by anyone, not even her own staffers.

From the CNN article that Jergul posted but probably didn't read:
"(Ocasio-Cortez's accusations about the officer's behavior have not been verified.)"

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[jergul]: "Tracking your security forces in their uncountable number of entities would amount to a fetish."

It makes sense that Jergul thinks that U.S. security forces are "uncountable", since this is the same person who thinks that no one can count above.. what was it.. 9?

Anyways, I find it truly commendable that UP does outreach to the Special Olympics. UP really needs retards like Jergul to give back to the community.

I mean, no one's gonna tell me who I can and can't work with, right? We've got this one kid: Mongo. He's got a forehead like a drive-in movie theater, but he's a good shit, so we don't bust his chops too much. So one day, Mongo gets out of his cage (his enclosure), so I went out and I got him a leash, one of those ones you hook onto a clothesline, and you can run back and forth. And there's plenty of room for him to dig and play, and that kid — he's really blossomed. Now I can take him to movies and baseball games. Fun stuff. It's cool for them, but for me it's much more than that — for me it's heaven. Those goofy bastards are just about the best thing I've got going in this crazy world ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzaOwAmDmA ).
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 01:01:43
CC
Its the evidence we have. The whole thread is a reaction to the congresswoman's impression of her circumstances during an active insurrection.

Did she get it wrong? Probably. Fog of War and all that. Most of you recognize that every time a security force element shoots an unarmed victim.

Pray tell me. What is your difficulty with recognizing it now?

The only needy person here is you. I checked UGT. What percentage of threads there are started by you?

Maybe get that 2nd cat. Something to talk with to keep those long winter nights from grinding you down.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Feb 09 03:18:30
[jergul]: "Its the evidence we have."

One witness without corroboration (and *with* contradiction) is flimsy at best, whereas these following quotations do not represent evidence but rather invention from a poor imagination and extrapolation from a bad source:
[jergul]: "He clearly did not do a very good job in the case of this congresswoman. The obvious explanation is that he was freaked out by the security meltdown and was not convinced he could keep his wards safe."
[jergul]: "The security force operative did not handle his task well. He freaked out one of the people he was supposed to protect."

This is why you tend to make such retarded comments. You have one piece of awful and unreliable information, you take the unreliable as truth, and you base your subsequent thoughts on that flimsy foundation. Thus, your comments get progressively more retarded. Meanwhile..

[jergul]: "Pray tell me. What is your difficulty with recognizing [fog of war] now?"

In other events (e.g., Rittenhouse), we had an abundance of evidence — not just one unreliable witness. You see, Mongo, when multiple piece of information can produce a statement which is consistent between them, that piece of information tends to be more reliable than, say, one delusional person who regularly engages in social media fame-whoring cashing in on potential victimhood status and being contradicted by the more rational people who were in the same exact situation.

And we have evidence working against AOC's already bazaar (and singular) claims. We know that...
• she was across the street from the main Capitol Building in the Cannon House Office Building,
• Cannon House had no significant crowding; it was so unimportant in the Capitol events that it's difficult even to find a single image or video of anything occurring around this building.
• Congressional figures that were being evacuating from the main Capitol Building *floor* weren't even giving such crazed responses ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr1zP1xP63g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54rS5jTfk0Q ),
• when the Capitol police officer knocked on her door, AOC's own staffer, "Gee", was not alarmed, staying in the office to answer the door while AOC fled into the office bathroom; it was this staffer who had to calm AOC down and tell her that it was a police officer and that AOC should come out ( http://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-aoc-instagram-live-video/fact-check-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-did-not-claim-that-she-was-in-the-capitol-during-siege-nor-that-rioters-entered-her-office-idUSKBN2A51RK ),
• when AOC was hiding in her bathroom (1:22 PM), no breach of even the main Capitol Building had even occurred yet (the main Capitol Building was breached around 2:11 PM http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/12/us/capitol-mob-timeline.html ),
• Representative Katie Portie confirms that when AOC was evacuated to the Longworth House Office Building, no one besides police were in that office hallway and no building breach came close to occurring ( http://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a35392971/katie-porter-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-capitol-attack/ ), thus, AOC wholly invented her narrative of creaking hinges and impending attack like a child who believes they're in a haunted house might invent ghosts at every sound,
• Portie was calmly sipping coffee when AOC arrived; AOC asked if she and her staffer could enter, then started looking for hiding places ( http://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1356458365124280320 ),
• Subsequent videos from the Longworth and Cannon Buildings were so boring that the news struggled to make interviews with congressmen interesting

Ah, AOC, hero of the low-IQ stray cats of social media.

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[jergul]: "The only needy person here is you. I checked UGT. What percentage of threads there are started by you?"

Oh no! Your Hannibal-like perceptions truly cut to the core of me! :'(
It's not that UGT is so slow that anyone can monopolize threads, it's that I need it all so much :'(
Because I too, like the Great AOC, am a social media whore, I'll never recover from this attack! You all saw it! Jergul just tried to have me killed! I better vlog about this while I can still fake some emotions! D':

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[jergul]: "Maybe get that 2nd cat. Something to talk with to keep those long winter nights from grinding you down."

I'll be sure to multiply my current cat-count by 2, effectively not changing the total at all.

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In short, yet again, Jergul is lost when he leaves the yard looking for his baseball ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUFjpGXN1G8 ).
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 03:48:00
CC
Are you going on the record to clearly state that you do not share your household with at least 1 cat?

I find that very hard to believe that you could truthfully commit to that.

As to the rest. The thread is based on a congressperson's perception of an armed insurrection.

She thought the security operative seemed angry. I merely suggested it was more likely he was a bit freaked out.

Way to make a mountain of a molehill.

You go, girl!
Rugian
Member
Tue Feb 09 05:41:05
CC

Never, ever, ever let jergul define the terminology being used in a conversation! It's a common tactic of his to insert politically-charged words and phrases in a debate.

It's "US Capitol Police," not "security forces." The latter evokes images of Russian goon squads, not American beat cops. You need to push back on that sort of thing.
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Feb 09 06:54:47
[jergul]: "Are you going on the record to clearly state that you do not share your household with at least 1 cat?"

I've said as much multiple times, you irredeemable imbecile. You have Seb's same bad memory. I'm sure I'll have to remind you again in a few months when you bring up this exact insult strategy:

Step 1: Stalk UGT for ad hominem ammunition,
Step 2: Mention my UGT activity when you inevitably fail to produce an argument,
Step 3: Make unsubstantiated claims about what you poorly envision to be my real life situation,
Step 4: Having failed to make anything stick since your powers of perception forever fail you, call me a cat hoarder ("CC likes cats! Clearly must have dozens of cats in real life!")

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[Jergul]: "The thread is based on a congressperson's perception of an armed insurrection ... Way to make a mountain of a molehill."

Nice try pretending that that was the only point you ever made in this thread.

Once again, do you really think that people can't just scroll up and see exactly what you said? You made a number of idiotic points, all of which have been summarily dismantled, leaving you with insults that do not even have germane arguments associated with them. At least when I call you retarded, I'm sure to explain exactly *how* you're retarded. I do this for posterity; when your life twilights into darkness, I want there to be a record of just how much you failed throughout your entire forgettable life. It's like Flaubert's "A Simple Heart" — an unexamined life that goes unnoticed and is irrelevant, yet we have a record.. like security footage of a vacant alleyway — you, the vacant alleyway. :)

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[Rugian]: "Never, ever, ever let jergul define the terminology being used in a conversation! It's a common tactic of his to insert politically-charged words and phrases in a debate."

Oops! That's CNN's same strategy. If they repeat "insurrection" enough, it flows into the Zeitgeist and becomes history.
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 09:19:56
Ruggy
Being mistaken for Russian goon squads would be an dramatic image improvement for the "I can't breath" security entities.

Now, I am sure you have completely decent security entities amongst the 10s of thousands of groups that exist in your country.

See the picture I am actually painting? Anarchy prone to abuse that only fundamental reform will fix.

I am humanizing the security force operative. Freaked out and stressed are human reactions.

You are the one painting him out as a psycopath.

CC
Glancing at UGT and seeing "holy fuck, most threads are CCs. She is their TC" is hardly stalking.

For stalking. See your posts here.
Rugian
Member
Tue Feb 09 09:29:11
So now we've graduated from sociopath to straight-up psychopath. Awesome.

What sort of shitty training did the Norwegian Army instill in you that causes you to think that not freaking out about a riot taking place blocks away makes you a psychopath?

I sincerely hope that North Sea fishing doesn't require any sort of ability to act under pressure, because youd apparently immediately fall to pieces.
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 09:35:15
Ruggy
I am pretty sure sociopath and psycopath are not on the same spectrum beyond difficulties with human emotions.

angry. Stressed is far more likely given the almost complete security meltdown during an armed insurrection.

That would be like getting stressed by my ship looking like it might sink in the midst of a gale.

That could indeed have stressed me out to the point where an observer might think I was angry.
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 09:36:01
"North Sea". Ok. That hurt. A fucking septic tank. Barrents Sea thank you very much.
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 09:37:00
Barents* You know. The one that ends in a wall of ice.
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 09:41:09
Most times. A scary moment was NE of Spitzbergen. Gale force winds blew ice bergs past our vessel from the north as we steamed south.

The only time I ever sat ice watch on the aft of the vessel. It was really scary that the ice was shifting south faster than we could sail.

I may very well have looked angry at times.
Memory Lane
Member
Tue Feb 09 10:23:02
If memory serves, since the topic of mental health has been brought up. Let us not forget the mental and emotional breakdown, that dear Rugian had with his dedication thread of how he couldn't get laid.

I drink and remember things.
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 10:43:51
ML
I raise deeds of derring do and you want to talk about elongated holes in Ruggy's sexlife?

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
Memory Lane
Member
Tue Feb 09 10:57:32
The subject matter of mental health and awareness was brought up. I thought this includes Rugian's as well. My mistake?
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 11:12:23
Not at all. There are certainly cracks and crevases a penetrative probe could explore.
Habebe
Member
Tue Feb 09 11:25:41
^Jerguls unofficial motto.

"There are certainly cracks and crevases a penetrative probe could explore."
Rugian
Member
Tue Feb 09 11:31:57
Yeah thats pretty gay bro.

ML: I don't think that's what that thread was about, but then again you would know better than I?

In any case, speaking of mental illness, who better to judge than someone who keeps dossiers on members of a long-dead board?
Memory Lane
Member
Tue Feb 09 11:44:15
"I don't think that's what that thread was about, but then again you would know better than I?"

I never said that is what the thread about. I mentioned the topic was brought up. For example, the attempt by your psychological assessment by CC and yourself. I said to myself; "Memory Lane, let's take a swig and see what we remember." From there I recalled your mental instability about you not being able to get laid. A girl, or guy, who knows anymore, just wasn't that into you.

Perhaps it was your heart on your leave and they wanted a real "man." Regardless, the topic was brought up...

Not a good time to bring it up, eh?
Memory Lane
Member
Tue Feb 09 11:48:34
*sleave
Memory Lane
Member
Tue Feb 09 11:49:10
Crap, I am drunk. *sleeve But, I do remember things.
jergul
large member
Tue Feb 09 11:50:31
My instinct was correct. "elongated hole" in the post above was simply too discrete.

But good job you two catching the inferrence the 2nd time round!
Rugian
Member
Tue Feb 09 12:03:51
Well, you're a paragon of good mental health if I've ever seen one. Hat's off to you sir.

Reading comprehension could use a bit of work though. You and The Patriot seem to have that in common.
Memory Lane
Member
Tue Feb 09 12:15:42
I do have good mental health! Thanks! Though, I hope we don't see another mental break by you. That would be terribly unfortunate!
obaminated
Member
Tue Feb 09 13:43:41
You are a grown ass man who keeps a list of comments made by people on this forum.

Also, aoc also claims ted cruz was trying to get her killed. Rofl.
mexicantardnado
Member
Tue Feb 09 13:48:57
You're a retard who is currently running away from a claim he made because he was wrong. ROFL.
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Feb 10 04:57:19
[obaminated]: "Also, aoc also claims ted cruz was trying to get her killed. Rofl."

I guess if she's going to falsify a narrative, she may as well go big.
[AOC's father (CNN)]: "Who taught you how to falsify narratives!?"
[AOC]: "You, alright! I learned it by watching YOU!"

:'(
jergul
large member
Thu Feb 11 05:08:49
Nice that the Senate trial is showcasing audio of clearly freaked out capitol security operatives.

In case we needed more evidence that the security operative was working in a extremely stressing environment.
Rugian
Member
Thu Feb 11 08:08:29
Except AOC wasn't in the Capitol building...


...goddamn its difficult to work with your stupidity sometimes.
jergul
large member
Thu Feb 11 10:10:19
I am pretty sure the excitement from the attached building spilled over to where the congresswoman was. The security operative was more likely than not dispatched from the main building anyway.
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Feb 12 04:42:09
"The security operative was more likely than not dispatched from the main building anyway."
— Jergul inventing more bullshit, circa 2021.
jergul
large member
Fri Feb 12 05:14:24
It was a high stress environment CC. Of course security operatives were under a lot of stress.

Hell, 1 guy sent to safeguard one of the more obvious targets of the insurrection. How was he supposed to safeguard his charge if confronted?

The answer is: With his gun. Other operatives pulled their guns whenever they could see insurrectionists and victims at the same time.
Habebe
Member
Fri Feb 12 05:24:30
Afaik, the only person being charged with anything close insurrection is Trump and he will be acquitted again ( proving his innocence and as the victim of a witch hunt)

Thus, no insurrection. Fake news.
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Feb 12 06:05:28
Jergul's response to his bullshit being called out is to produce even more fan-fiction bullshit. He should write a Star Wars novel; they'll publish anyone.
jergul
large member
Fri Feb 12 06:51:38
CC
Your lack of empathy with the victims of the insurrection is unsurprising.
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Feb 13 22:43:56
"victims of the insurrection"

lol
habebe
Member
Sat Feb 13 22:47:08
Victims.of the trespassing and destruction of property at worst.
habebe
Member
Sat Feb 13 22:50:41
http://www...al%2C%20can%20bring%20charges.

Insurrection is a crime.No ome was charged with that over the Capitol riot.

And it's not as though such things are not, the whiskey rebellion in PA was one of the first uses of the pardon for such acts.

If there really was an insurrection, where is the charge?
habebe
Member
Sat Feb 13 22:51:44
You won't see many "fact checkers" correcting mass media's claims of such which are now proven to be lies.
jergul
large member
Sun Feb 14 03:13:21
Insurrection. A crime can happen without anyone being charged or convicted, felon.

Early days anyway. Conspiracy charges can easily be upgraded to insurrection if indeed it can be proven that the goal of the conspiracies were to overturn the orderly transition of government.

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